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AceOfSpace
Myth...
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:50:00 -
[91]
 Quote:
Logins are being manually throttled, this may take some time.
??????
!!!!!!
What does that even mean? 
-it's my job to do it- |
Yoshi Takeda
Caldari
YoshiEmoo
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:50:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Kinsaith
Originally by: Hectorde
Hello
When ???
When will come the day when CCP woud learn that the have to fix there cluster befor the will make open the outgoing doors ?
So how long do the make this pice of .... with us ?
any new patch the same old boring story!!!!
I thought the were intelegent people there but the dont learn it patch by patch anytime the same:(
he guys you make this one since 3 yaers and you dont learn it ,Oh my lord guys !!
i can't believe this
Hectorde
Sorry to say it but GIVE THEM SOME TIME!!! I would love to see half the people in here complaining do anything close to what the guys at CCP are doing. I don't see you guys out there making and patching games, give them a break, taking computer science at university I can tell you coding and making sure everything can handle a 20K+ population is NOT easy!
Hectorde. If you are going to insult people on their intelligence level please make sure your post is at least free of spelling and basic sentence structure errors.
I guess having written a web application providing more than 250k employees of a a world wide operating company with a document management system run on a 8 load balanced Sun Servers and running on Java allows for some criticism doesnt it ?
It can happen that things take a bit longer then announced but if they take that much longer then its better to revert and get the systems up and trying the "fixes" later.
But at least providing information on what's going on is good service.
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Draaz DuGal
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:51:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Kinsaith
Originally by: Hectorde
Hello
When ???
When will come the day when CCP woud learn that the have to fix there cluster befor the will make open the outgoing doors ?
So how long do the make this pice of .... with us ?
any new patch the same old boring story!!!!
I thought the were intelegent people there but the dont learn it patch by patch anytime the same:(
he guys you make this one since 3 yaers and you dont learn it ,Oh my lord guys !!
i can't believe this
Hectorde
Sorry to say it but GIVE THEM SOME TIME!!! I would love to see half the people in here complaining do anything close to what the guys at CCP are doing. I don't see you guys out there making and patching games, give them a break, taking computer science at university I can tell you coding and making sure everything can handle a 20K+ population is NOT easy!
Hectorde. If you are going to insult people on their intelligence level please make sure your post is at least free of spelling and basic sentence structure errors.
Wow, you take CS at Uni? ZOMG, that must make you like, the smartest programmer EVA. Couldn't be that anyone that plays online games has any real-world cluster experiences with mission critical application development. nah - those people don't play games. I mean, they'd all be working at CCP right, because they're like, the best company EVA.
Something you should have learned at Uni - test, verify, release. The gaming industry has a disproportionate acceptability of releasing faulty software and criticism of such seen as bad by community users. If your university released a student access program with as many bugs as EVE, it would not be met with smiling faces. It would likely be met with lynch mobs of students who cannot access their FA, courses, and school resources ready to draw blood.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:53:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Azerrad InExile
Originally by: kieron
The second Revelations patch has been deployed and Tranquility has returned to service.
No it hasn't. Mind giving us an update as to why it hasn't?
QFT
[OMG! SMASH!] |
Deitre Cibrus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:53:00 -
[95]
Right this is in bold and if you think i care? I don't.
Right I have no bloody problem with it being 17:50... if you would keep us up to date this is the ONLY patch ****up i can remember where we weren't kept informed, i pay a 100,000th of your salary.
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Please don't derail your own thread.
What is this sig missing?
Pretty colours? -Conuion
Not true! Has plenty -Deitre |
Kinsaith
Caldari
Xen Nanotech
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:54:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Thamul
Originally by: Degs
i notice now we dont get any reimbursment for lost time on our accounts post patch-cmon ccp this is becoming a bit of a joke now. 
What? Are you serious? Reimbursment for lost time on your account? Huh? Do you realize what you're saying.
$14.99 for 30 days. That's $.50 a day. About 2 cents an hour.
Let me get this clear. You're bithcing because you feel you've been jipped out of almost 6 cents, at the time of this post?
Hmm that seems wrong. It would be stupid to do that. What about if we look at it as time?
30 days is 720 hours. Assuming the same 3 hours you're missing out on 0.4% (four tenths of one percent) of your total possible play time for the month.
Nope still stupid when you look at it that way.
Awesome, simply awesome.
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Tuco Santeriia
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:55:00 -
[97]
The Contract system is VERY vulnerable to exploitation until you make the following change:
When one unit of something is up for sale/auction/etc, there should be a "x 1" indicator to show that only one unit is included.
In other words, a player-written description gives a number, but the locked-in item information does not indicate any specific number, meaning there is no visible contradiction of the terms. Unless someone has previous experience with the Contract system, it is very easy to get lured into thinking that the description is accurate. Specifying the number of items in each transaction is essential for a complete, intuitive understanding of what is included. I see a lot of auctions, in particular, taking advantage of this oversight.
I think this is worthy of a hotfix, and hope you repair this situation as soon as possible. |
Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:56:00 -
[98]
Mobile bubbles are seeded in the lottery as T1, which can otherwise be bought off market.
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EVE is sick. |
TheDevilsJury
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:56:00 -
[99]
At first it wouldn't let me DL the patch.
Then I got a new build popup the 2nd time.
Still says Logins are being manually throtlled. Hope that doesn't stop me from logging in...
"Not accepting connections" 5k players online.
^^^^ You can hide, but you can't run. ^^^^ |
BerekHalfhand
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:57:00 -
[100]
Well the question i would like 2 know is , who's the luck 5000 ish that are on, prob friends and family.
yeah but it would be nice 2 get an update even if ts just afew lines.
And remember it always happens give it time, no point in going postal about it.
wish i had a sig bohoo
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:58:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Kappas. on 13/12/2006 17:58:04
Why the heck are you "manually throtelling logins"??
Seems people logged on before this patch with little problems, instead of letting 10 people in once every hour...
Edit: My alts on
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Garath Biotake
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:58:00 -
[102]
We should give them some time. It is after all rocket sience, isn't it?
But I get as frustrated as anyone else from the lack of real information. I really would like an IRC channel or similar with someone from CCP present at times like this, keeping us posted.
And on the free patches thingy. I'd say we're all paying for it, without change/evolving this experience/game would be dead.
Keep us posted CCP, here or in another pre-determined place. It would benefit us all.
/Garath
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Tialco
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:58:00 -
[103]
[Quote]
What? Are you serious? Reimbursment for lost time on your account? Huh? Do you realize what you're saying.
$14.99 for 30 days. That's $.50 a day. About 2 cents an hour.
Let me get this clear. You're bithcing because you feel you've been jipped out of almost 6 cents, at the time of this post?
Hmm that seems wrong. It would be stupid to do that. What about if we look at it as time?
30 days is 720 hours. Assuming the same 3 hours you're missing out on 0.4% (four tenths of one percent) of your total possible play time for the month.
Nope still stupid when you look at it that way.
Awesome, simply awesome.
great but with 25.000 paying clients thats
25.000 * 0.4% = 10.000% = 1.495.00 $
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Mintoko
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:59:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Mintoko on 13/12/2006 18:03:59
The salvager icon is no longer appearing next to the active target.
Correction....it's not always showing. It just showed as the only module activated on a target. Normally, I also have a tractor beam engaged.
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Kinsaith
Caldari
Xen Nanotech
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:59:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Draaz DuGal
Originally by: Kinsaith
Originally by: Hectorde
Hello
When ???
When will come the day when CCP woud learn that the have to fix there cluster befor the will make open the outgoing doors ?
So how long do the make this pice of .... with us ?
any new patch the same old boring story!!!!
I thought the were intelegent people there but the dont learn it patch by patch anytime the same:(
he guys you make this one since 3 yaers and you dont learn it ,Oh my lord guys !!
i can't believe this
Hectorde
Sorry to say it but GIVE THEM SOME TIME!!! I would love to see half the people in here complaining do anything close to what the guys at CCP are doing. I don't see you guys out there making and patching games, give them a break, taking computer science at university I can tell you coding and making sure everything can handle a 20K+ population is NOT easy!
Hectorde. If you are going to insult people on their intelligence level please make sure your post is at least free of spelling and basic sentence structure errors.
Wow, you take CS at Uni? ZOMG, that must make you like, the smartest programmer EVA. Couldn't be that anyone that plays online games has any real-world cluster experiences with mission critical application development. nah - those people don't play games. I mean, they'd all be working at CCP right, because they're like, the best company EVA.
Something you should have learned at Uni - test, verify, release. The gaming industry has a disproportionate acceptability of releasing faulty software and criticism of such seen as bad by community users. If your university released a student access program with as many bugs as EVE, it would not be met with smiling faces. It would likely be met with lynch mobs of students who cannot access their FA, courses, and school resources ready to draw blood.
Hey I never claimed to be the smartest programmer and I know the steps needed to release a patch or program, but things tend to go wrong every now and then, it's not like they have given up on Tranquility, I agree some basic idea of what is going on would be nice, but quit bashing them just because they are having some problems with the patch, IT HAPPENS! And I'm sure they are working on it.
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McBrite
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:00:00 -
[106]
Edited by: McBrite on 13/12/2006 18:00:38
Whaaaaa! The G15 Display on the keyboard just told me my skill is finished!! 
And before you start *****ing at me: I simply forgot it was patchday and it's my fault, simple as that...
On a more serious note: Could we get ANY sign of live from CCP in this "official" thread, the one we are all refered to for answers? Changing the MOTD ever so slighty for a increasingly mystical comment doesn't really satisfy my curiosity... :D
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:01:00 -
[107]
This might sound blasphemous, but....
CCP, do you think you might, like... keep your customers informed?????
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RobW1
Caldari
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:02:00 -
[108]
Well the number of players online is falling... but still connections are limited.
And I mean falling by like several hundred.
and for the love of god why does the splsh screen consume SO much resources it makes my machine c r a w l
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Xeron Silverblade
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:03:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Xeron Silverblade on 13/12/2006 18:03:50
well.. I really don't like bothering people.. but after a (today reaaaalllyyy) hard day of work i was really looking forward to place my ass before the computer and pop some rats...
would you mind telling us at least how long "some time" might be?
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Vaatzes
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:03:00 -
[110]
Soo, alot of people are whining.... guess now is a good time to go buy me more tomatoes ^^ Ofcourse i'm waiting for the server to come up, but i trust that CCP is trying what they can to get it up. Hope i can get on the server when i get home from the shop :¦
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McBrite
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:04:00 -
[111]
Hahaaaaaa! I just got in! 
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:06:00 -
[112]
Originally by: RobW1
Well the number of players online is falling... but still connections are limited.
And I mean falling by like several hundred.
and for the love of god why does the splsh screen consume SO much resources it makes my machine c r a w l
Probably because while the splash screen is up your computer is loading the game?
The login screen slows to a crawl if you have a Radeon card with AA and anisotropic filtering turned on, I don't know why that is but it only affects the EVE login screen, it shouldn't slow anything else on your computer down.
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Sindrin
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:08:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Tuco Santeriia
The Contract system is VERY vulnerable to exploitation until you make the following change:
When one unit of something is up for sale/auction/etc, there should be a "x 1" indicator to show that only one unit is included.
In other words, a player-written description gives a number, but the locked-in item information does not indicate any specific number, meaning there is no visible contradiction of the terms. Unless someone has previous experience with the Contract system, it is very easy to get lured into thinking that the description is accurate. Specifying the number of items in each transaction is essential for a complete, intuitive understanding of what is included. I see a lot of auctions, in particular, taking advantage of this oversight.
I think this is worthy of a hotfix, and hope you repair this situation as soon as possible.
It does say "are you sure you want to buy one unit of xxx" before you click ok. Your own fault if you've clicked yes or checked the "don't show this again box"
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RobW1
Caldari
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:08:00 -
[114]
I have an X550 on one machine with 256 Mb Video RAM, 2 Gb RAM, P4 3 Ghz with hyperthreading.
It slows down everyting on this machine including just type in the forum.. like now.
On the other machine, a dual core laptop with 2 Gb RAM, and a 512 Mb RAM ATI Mobility FireGL V5200.
It slows down everything on there too.
What is the setting I should turn "off" ?
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Selak Zorander
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:08:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Ithildin
Mobile bubbles are seeded in the lottery as T1, which can otherwise be bought off market.
I can verify this...elecronic engineering agents (or atleast the agent named "Wingvontzen Urata") has in his predictable patents the "Mobile Small warp Disruptor I" and the "Mobile Medium warp disruptor I" which can both be purchased off the market. There is also no listing for the tech 2 large bubble if that is supposed to be in there.
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Dark Guardian
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:09:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Dark Guardian on 13/12/2006 18:18:07
I don't know EvE history that well, but does anyone remember any times when Tranquility was down for at least 24 hours? I think the last time was around a year ago.
Note: The MMO starting with the letter W still goes down regularly on Tuesday for around 6 hours (frequently longer). The downtime has not gotten shorter (as it tends to on EvE once the patches are debugged). Players there are not reimbursed for that downtime. Just as a point of comparison.
Edit: logged in just now. Your mileage may vary. |
AceOfSpace
Myth...
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:16:00 -
[117]
Edited by: AceOfSpace on 13/12/2006 18:19:02
Originally by: RobW1
Well the number of players online is falling... but still connections are limited.
And I mean falling by like several hundred.
and for the love of god why does the splsh screen consume SO much resources it makes my machine c r a w l
Yup I know how you feel. Splash, login screen and char select are horribly slow. Or maybe that's my duo processor. Sure there's something wrong here..
Hmkay well maybe time to forget about eve for a few hours
edit: and as soon as I wrote that, it just let me login
-it's my job to do it- |
Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:21:00 -
[118]
Originally by: RobW1
What is the setting I should turn "off" ?
Eve.
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Loki Farseer
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:25:00 -
[119]
Mmm so let me get this straight....
I offer to build/provide you (insert any service/product you would like... be creative it doesn't matter).
I then charge you for said service/product (in advance) and provide 99.9999999% (keep adding numbers for all you statistically crazy people that like really long perfectly accurate numbers) of said service/product.
I then say thats it buddy... all ya get, suck it up and deal with it....... Good luck pawning that off on any PAYING customer if your in the service or sales industry (which btw CCP is) ie: Mr Customer, here's your New Boat, oh the missing propeller on the motor.. nah you dun need that... we got 99.9999999% of it done it's good enough.
I don't want a refund, and honestly since I was expecting this (insert quote about those who fail to study the past are doomed to repeat it or some such crap..)and generously started a nice 8 day skill (lotsa faith here on their said time "estimates")... I don't really care. But CCP should figure it out that if you:
A. Set expectations @ (a time frame, uptime on servers, what content you are providing/product) and
B. Fail to meet said mark.... people are gonna complain. Human nature.
... And yes I have great cheers for the good work they do and all the effort blah blah blah... it's their JOB.. which if I put out buggy whacked out stuff like this I would LOSE mine...
Oh and the devs aren't getting beers or watching TV while laughing at us all sitting here going wth... They are trying to integrate the CEO of CCP's new Ferrari Enzo into the Jita node to increase performance (since nothing else has worked). 
..and I am spent
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Sir Emi
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:26:00 -
[120]
Give it some time...
Space Odyssey Maker...
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