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Col Callahan Caldari MisFunk Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:13:00 - [61] Look, Im not saying in any way, shape, or from that I hate BoB. What I am saying is I would not / do not want to live in an eve were I have to fear them, and I'm shure that no one in eve want's to live in constant fear from a bob attack, who would. This is why I post what I post.
Syrec Gallente Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:14:00 - [62] Originally by: Col Callahan what about were BoB came from? I heard BoB was forged in the volcanos of Mordor. I could be wrong but that info came from a pretty reliable source.
CallMe 8675309 Gallente Truth In Advertising	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:16:00 - [63] People don't hate BoB because they are jealous. People hate BoB because they are the quintessential elitist MMO nerds who think that they're the best and that everybody else in the game isn't fit to lick their boots. They're the high-end raiding guild from WoW that won't touch anybody who doesn't play for hours every day and likes to talk about how many purples they have all day long. They're internet nerds that are so full of their own pompous db preacher and sirmolle posts about PENDULUMS and THE IMPORTANT METAPHOR and OMNIPOTENCE ITSELF that everybody else wishes they'd fall into an open sewer just so they'd be taken down a notch. It's like they're a walking Napoleonic small-man complex manifested in an MMO guild that has to rub in everybody's face why they're so awesome and everybody else sucks or else they'd lose their identity in the world. So in summary, people dislike BoB not because they are jealous, but because BoB are essentially attention starved adolescents who annoy everybody else without realizing it and then proceed to blame that annoyance on everybody else being jealous.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:17:00 - [64] Edited by: DarkMatter on 14/12/2006 11:18:56 Originally by: Exogene Funny how some people interpret the forums as being out-of game. I view General Discussion Forum as out of game yes... As it's mostly individual players discussing the game mechanics, etc. Not the political crap you get in the corp & alliance forums... To me, the forums & game are two different worlds... On the forums, all that matters are your words, in the game all that matters are your actions... Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead
Al Haquis Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:19:00 - [65] Originally by: Miss Overlord some BOB members pay 500m a month to be able to NPC and industry to support that alliacne the profits are potentially much much more To the Good people out there, Every corp in Bob takes care of it¦s own logistics and fund raising ways. It differs from corp to corp , some are through and through commie corps , others depend on taxes and dues. So there is no model how the corps in BOB work and if some one tells you otherwise he is telling fiddles. With Love from Al Haquis.
B0rn2KiLL MicroFunks	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:20:00 - [66] i like BoB personally. ASCN got this goodie tag assigned to them, when they're clearly as "bad" as bob really. hypocrites. BoB are straight forward, despite thier scheming, plotting and forum propaganda i feel that bob gives a better sense, i'd call it, they fill agap that i feel neccesiry in eve's social strucutre, the availability of an 'evil entity', they dont kid around, they tell it to your face "we're dip***s, yeah, come and do something about it punk" and i appreciate that honesty. so, meh, go BoB! --- new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11
Syrec Gallente Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:22:00 - [67] Originally by: DarkMatter To me, the forums & game are two different worlds... what is it really when they're falling over, everything that you thought was denied i'm gonna be the one that's takin over, now this is what it's like when worlds collide
Al Haquis Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:30:00 - [68] Originally by: CallMe 8675309 People don't hate BoB because they are jealous. People hate BoB because they are the quintessential elitist MMO nerds who think that they're the best and that everybody else in the game isn't fit to lick their boots. They're the high-end raiding guild from WoW that won't touch anybody who doesn't play for hours every day and likes to talk about how many purples they have all day long. They're internet nerds that are so full of their own pompous db preacher and sirmolle posts about PENDULUMS and THE IMPORTANT METAPHOR and OMNIPOTENCE ITSELF that everybody else wishes they'd fall into an open sewer just so they'd be taken down a notch. It's like they're a walking Napoleonic small-man complex manifested in an MMO guild that has to rub in everybody's face why they're so awesome and everybody else sucks or else they'd lose their identity in the world. So in summary, people dislike BoB not because they are jealous, but because BoB are essentially attention starved adolescents who annoy everybody else without realizing it and then proceed to blame that annoyance on everybody else being jealous. Emote gives CallMe 86753089 a kiss and a hug. May god walk side by side with you Son. Btw bobbits dont flame this good sir, thats what he wants. To the other good people that are reading. Some one makes a silly post like this there is only one thing going to happen : "HERE COMES THE BOB FORUM BRIGADE" "SMAK SMAK SMAK". And honestly do you blame them? With love from Al Haquis
Sovereign533 Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:33:00 - [69] Edited by: Sovereign533 on 14/12/2006 11:34:32 Edited by: Sovereign533 on 14/12/2006 11:33:55 Originally by: CallMe 8675309 People don't hate BoB because they are jealous. People hate BoB because they are the quintessential elitist MMO nerds who think that they're the best and that everybody else in the game isn't fit to lick their boots. They're the high-end raiding guild from WoW that won't touch anybody who doesn't play for hours every day and likes to talk about how many purples they have all day long. They're internet nerds that are so full of their own pompous db preacher and sirmolle posts about PENDULUMS and THE IMPORTANT METAPHOR and OMNIPOTENCE ITSELF that everybody else wishes they'd fall into an open sewer just so they'd be taken down a notch. It's like they're a walking Napoleonic small-man complex manifested in an MMO guild that has to rub in everybody's face why they're so awesome and everybody else sucks or else they'd lose their identity in the world. So in summary, people dislike BoB not because they are jealous, but because BoB are essentially attention starved adolescents who annoy everybody else without realizing it and then proceed to blame that annoyance on everybody else being jealous. someone needs a cookie... EDIT : forgot the "this is my personal view and does not reclect my corp or alliance"-crap Originally by: Sovereign533 Time will tell, sooner or later, time will tell... Second sig removed, only 1 signature graphic please - Xorus ^_^WOOHOO!!! my Sig finally got nerfed... And now its been sigjacked, yarrrr!!! - Petwraith
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:40:00 - [70] Originally by: CallMe 8675309 stuff hugs I can't speak towards all of them, but I know a few people in BoB who are actually funny as hell and nice people flown pvp and mining ops besides one or two before they converted to the dark side I was nice, can I rent a refining station in Feythwhatever cheap? CEO - PKKP Recruitment
CallMe 8675309 Gallente Truth In Advertising	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:48:00 - [71] Of course, even WoW guilds full of complete **ers sometimes had OK people in them. That doesn't make the guild any less of a complete **er guild however. Also countdown to a BoB person condescendingly telling me that I'm stupid or jealous and that's why I posted this, rather than arguing with the substance of the post!
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:52:00 - [72] It's interesting that this should pop up in the General Discussion section rather than CAOD, I think it'll probably get moved which will be a shame because it's nice to see people who don't normally comment in CAOD threads having their say about what is at the moment the epic alliance war in Eve. Good sources for information about BoB's beggining, background and history were already linked in the first page but I'll link them again for the curious.. RKK's History My Blog Fitz's Blog (he doesn't update it much but there's a couple of good entries about where Evolution came from which are good background and two funny blogs about RKK and BNC) The thing about alliance wars is that they're usually conducted on a few different levels and the associated amount of passion, emotion and vitriol that goes with them scales according to the level. If it's just roadtrips/skirmishing then things are generally relatively cordial with a bit of smack here and there. If it's a prolonged war with a lot of large battles but no real threat to territory then it gets a bit more heated but the fallout will die down quickly and there's often genuine respect If it's all out war for your alliances existance and territory then the associated emotions escalate to match the ferocity of the fighting and at least on the surface it can appear quite unpleasant. The ASCN and BoB war is, in my opinion, so polarising and has so much emotion attached to it because for the 6000 accounts (probably 1500-2000 real people) involved it's potentially an extinction level event for their alliance, real do or die stuff. I would expect it's very entertaining for the neutral observer, which is surely a good thing as it's player driven content at it's most intense and involving. With luck this war (and the fact that the south east of the map is generally a raging warzone at the moment) is having an effect in empire and across the map as well in terms of the availability of ships, modules, minerals, resources, tech II ship prices etc. Perhaps only a percent or two, perhaps more in certain areas and for specific items but none the less because Eve is such a complex beast with a dynamic player driven economy large scale wars like this can have an impact. Great stuff in an MMO to be honest! As for BoB and what we do, well you can read about that in lots of different places (including those I've listed) so I'm not going to go over it all again. I'm also not going to start telling you about all the fathers, mothers, nobel laureatte's, doctors etc. in the alliance and how we're not all 14 year old quake kiddies sat in our basements like our amusing friend posted above, you're a mature and sensible community that doesn't need that kind of stuff explaining to you (with one or two exceptions of course). I will agree with one fundamental point someone made a few posts back, in an environment where there is true player driven content in an MMO like this not everyone can be the Knight in Shining Armour, the Sir Galahad, because then there'd be no-one to compete with and competition is the source of content in Eve. So when we're all done flinging rocks at each other and calling each other motherless sons of witches in the CAOD forum, take a second to remember that Eve would be a lot duller place without it's proverbial dragon to go and fight P.S. We're better than you Hehe. Blog
Al Haquis Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:54:00 - [73] Originally by: CallMe 8675309 Of course, even WoW guilds full of complete **ers sometimes had OK people in them. That doesn't make the guild any less of a complete **er guild however. Also countdown to a BoB person condescendingly telling me that I'm stupid or jealous and that's why I posted this, rather than arguing with the substance of the post! So basicly your addmiting that you want some of my alliance brothers to come here and start the flaming. So you can point out how clever you are to your friends. "i managed to get a Bober to flame me , Look at me , look at me." Well im looking, so whats your point? With love from Al Haquis. And son i still bear love in my heart towards you.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:57:00 - [74] Originally by: Al Haquis Originally by: CallMe 8675309 Of course, even WoW guilds full of complete **ers sometimes had OK people in them. That doesn't make the guild any less of a complete **er guild however. Also countdown to a BoB person condescendingly telling me that I'm stupid or jealous and that's why I posted this, rather than arguing with the substance of the post! So basicly your addmiting that you want some of my alliance brothers to come here and start the flaming. So you can point out how clever you are to your friends. "i managed to get a Bober to flame me , Look at me , look at me." Well im looking, so whats your point? With love from Al Haquis. And son i still bear love in my heart towards you. Ignoring > Replying in this case I think Al. Blog
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:00:00 - [75] I don't think THAT many people actually hate BoB so much. The thing is, people are well aware of how powerful BoB are when it comes to PvP, and most people don't rate their chances when it comes to a war with them. So when wars like this one (ASCN v BoB) happen, its a good opportunity for people to vent their spleens and start rooting for the other guy. Other peeople go the other root of sucking up to them in the hope that this will get them friendship beans. In other words, its all politics. And that, when spread liberally over the forums, comes accross as so much vicious hateful whining. -----------------------------------------------
Gus Morgan	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:01:00 - [76] I saw the video of when BoB was killing off ASCNs titan and the current leader was yelling and swearing at its members like they were his B****es or slaves. I understand the need of control in such situations but listening to some idiotic kid with his head stuck up his ass over teamspeak everytime you log on doesn't seem like much fun to me. And I still believe EvE is about fun.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:07:00 - [77] Originally by: Gus Morgan I saw the video of when BoB was killing off ASCNs titan and the current leader was yelling and swearing at its members like they were his B****es or slaves. I understand the need of control in such situations but listening to some idiotic kid with his head stuck up his ass over teamspeak everytime you log on doesn't seem like much fun to me. And I still believe EvE is about fun. Hehe, that was a particularly funny soundbite and you're right it doesn't sound great. Take the time to chat to a BoB member some time though and I think you'd discover that they have a lot of fun and don't 'normally' get bawled out on TS for yattering on too much. lol, it's a good point to bring up though, because it did sound a bit like you described it Blog
El Torrent Gallente Paxton Industries	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:08:00 - [78] I love ASCN, they are doing what this game is about (Building an Empire) BoB... well, they destroy Empires, I can't really say I like them or hate them. They are good in what they do though. -- Paxton Industries Recruiting.
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:10:00 - [79] Edited by: DarkMatter on 14/12/2006 12:11:14 Quote: P.S. We're better than you Yep, there it is! The arrogance I spoke of... Kind of why eveyone hates the country I live in, same kind of deal... Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead
Iva Soreass Deadly Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:12:00 - [80] blah blah blah fanboi this fanboi that, who gives a **** to be fukin honest.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:12:00 - [81] Originally by: El Torrent I love ASCN, they are doing what this game is about (Building an Empire) BoB... well, they destroy Empires, I can't really say I like them or hate them. They are good in what they do though. Obviously I'm getting drawn into this thread now, which means I should shut up and go do something other than whoruming but anyway.... This is a common misconception about ASCN being builders and BoB not, ASCN have built 14 outposts BoB have (so far but with 1/3 of ASCN's player numbers) built 9. We're building an empire just as much as ASCN ever were, we just have a slightly different approach to doing so and yes of course we expand by conquest. I think the differences are more than just semantics. Blog
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:18:00 - [82] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 14/12/2006 12:11:14 Quote: P.S. We're better than you Yep, there it is! The arrogance I spoke of... Kind of why eveyone hates the country I live in, same kind of deal... That was an ironic joke in the context of this thread btw, humour and all that, being able to laugh at yourself etc. Blog
Elliot Reid Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:20:00 - [83] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 14/12/2006 12:11:14 Quote: P.S. We're better than you Yep, there it is! The arrogance I spoke of... Kind of why eveyone hates the country I live in, same kind of deal... Talk about selective quoting. On my screen he has the after that which changes the meaning completely. You must be a journalist for The Sun or The Daily Mail. _______________________________
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:22:00 - [84] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 14/12/2006 12:11:14 Quote: P.S. We're better than you Yep, there it is! The arrogance I spoke of... Kind of why eveyone hates the country I live in, same kind of deal... That was an ironic joke in the context of this thread btw, humour and all that, being able to laugh at yourself etc. True, but you certainly know many ppl hate Bob for that exact reason... When you're the best at anything in life (best country, best team in a sport, best physicist, etc) many of those who are not the best harbor ill will, and usually the best develop a superiority complex that just fuels the hatred from others... Human nature at it's best? Or worst? Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead
Sexy Schoolgirl	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:35:00 - [85] I knew a Bob once, and he was a jackass.
Cpt Sykes Caldari Rest in Pieces	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:08:00 - [86] Originally by: Elliot Reid I see BoB as the Manchester United of EVE, people hate them because they are successful. lmao you manc :P, Im a Liverpool supporter, and I admit, Liverpool had thier prime & are currently making a come back slowly but surely. Manchester United were in thier prime, until this whole deal with Chelsea... So as a Liverpool supporter, I have to admit BoB is the Chelsea of EVE. Originally by: mazzilliu i'll reprocess ten warp core stabilizers in your honor
Lucius Ventrue Minmatar Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:12:00 - [87] Originally by: Miss Overlord BOB will continue to go after ASCN until RAGOON get strong enough to swat again the big ? in all of this is D2 and friends and LV. The north could become an issue with bob if RONIN and d2 team up to take RISE out Thats an interesting prevarication 54Kills - 10Loss
Pan Lo	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:16:00 - [88] I love everyone who buys my stuff. Alliance affiliations are irrelevant. If SirMolle came into my sytem and bought heat sink for my exorbitant price and then called me an insignificant worm, I would say yes SirMolle, I love you.
Tasuric Orka Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:18:00 - [89] Edited by: Tasuric Orka on 14/12/2006 14:18:57 I dont hate BOB or ASCN, though i do think BOB has a sort of "cool and evil" aura surrounding them, kinda like "the empire" from star wars, unstoppable in a straight conflict. I'm not scared of them, as long as there are free alliances there is hope they can stop the BOB warmachine, might people be stupid enough to let BOB take all of 0.0, BOB will eventually break itself... and even if they dont, "rebel scum" alliances will remain. Originally by: Deja Thoris The dead horse has now been flogged into puree.
Bill Shankly	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:18:00 - [90] Originally by: ProphetGuru Originally by: Jason Marshall Its not hate....its a distrust....loathing.....i dont have the word.... Let me supply you with the word since you seem unable bring yourself to utter it. Jealousy. lol u wish more like homophobia.

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