Originally by: ProphetGuru

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Originally by: Jason Marshall

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Its not hate....its a distrust....loathing.....i dont have the word....

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Let me supply you with the word since you seem unable bring yourself to utter it.

Jealousy.

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Originally by: Cpt Sykes

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Originally by: Elliot Reid

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I see BoB as the Manchester United of EVE, people hate them because they are successful.

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lmao you manc :P, Im a Liverpool supporter, and I admit, Liverpool had thier prime & are currently making a come back slowly but surely. Manchester United were in thier prime, until this whole deal with Chelsea... So as a Liverpool supporter, I have to admit BoB is the Chelsea of EVE.

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Originally by: CallMe 8675309

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People don't hate BoB because they are jealous.

People hate BoB because they are the quintessential elitist MMO nerds who think that they're the best and that everybody else in the game isn't fit to lick their boots. They're the high-end raiding guild from WoW that won't touch anybody who doesn't play for hours every day and likes to talk about how many purples they have all day long. They're internet nerds that are so full of their own pompous db preacher and sirmolle posts about PENDULUMS and THE IMPORTANT METAPHOR and OMNIPOTENCE ITSELF that everybody else wishes they'd fall into an open sewer just so they'd be taken down a notch. It's like they're a walking Napoleonic small-man complex manifested in an MMO guild that has to rub in everybody's face why they're so awesome and everybody else sucks or else they'd lose their identity in the world.

So in summary, people dislike BoB not because they are jealous, but because BoB are essentially attention starved adolescents who annoy everybody else without realizing it and then proceed to blame that annoyance on everybody else being jealous.

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Originally by: Miss Overlord

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BOB will continue to go after ASCN until RAGOON get strong enough to swat again the big ? in all of this is D2 and friends and LV. The north could become an issue with bob if RONIN and d2 team up to take RISE out.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Blacklight, I doubt you will get a decent sampling of the Eve-population here.

My bet is that most of the people ingame never even read these forums. The population you're sampling from is already filtered towards more involved players.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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1. Are you at all interested in what goes on between the player factions/alliances in Eve?

2. Do you know what is currently going on between player factions/alliances in Eve (in the broadest sense e.g. who controls what space, who are friends/enemies etc.)

3. Do the actions of player factions/alliances have any real impact on your Eve experience?

4. Where do you get your information about player driven content from e.g. the Player News Centre, the Intergalactic Summit, CAOD forum etc?

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Originally by: Bill Shankly

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Originally by: ProphetGuru

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Originally by: Jason Marshall

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Its not hate....its a distrust....loathing.....i dont have the word....

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Let me supply you with the word since you seem unable bring yourself to utter it.

Jealousy.

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lol
u wish
more like homophobia.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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This might be a good opportunity to ask a few questions, for interest's sake, on a subject very close to my heart i.e. player driven content and it's impact on the player base at large.

I suppose these questions are directed at the following groups of people (not exclusively but as examples) relatively new players to Eve who haven't had the chance to move out to 0.0 space yet, players who prefer to play Eve solo and stay largely in empire, members of small corporations run independantly of alliances in 0.0 etc.

1. Are you at all interested in what goes on between the player factions/alliances in Eve?

2. Do you know what is currently going on between player factions/alliances in Eve (in the broadest sense e.g. who controls what space, who are friends/enemies etc.)

3. Do the actions of player factions/alliances have any real impact on your Eve experience?

4. Where do you get your information about player driven content from e.g. the Player News Centre, the Intergalactic Summit, CAOD forum etc?

There's a few large scale wars on around the south and the east of the map at the moment, perhaps not as monumental as some conflicts we've had in the past but fairly large none the less, so it'd be very interesting to hear how or indeed if the average Eve player notices.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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I suppose these questions are directed at the following groups of people (not exclusively but as examples) relatively new players to Eve who haven't had the chance to move out to 0.0 space yet, players who prefer to play Eve solo and stay largely in empire, members of small corporations run independantly of alliances in 0.0 etc.

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4. Where do you get your information about player driven content from e.g. the Player News Centre, the Intergalactic Summit, CAOD forum etc?

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so it'd be very interesting to hear how or indeed if the average Eve player notices.

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Originally by: Arlenik Emmanouelik

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Originally by: James Pond

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Originally by: Arlenik Emmanouelik

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I dislike ASCN very much, eventhough in the beginning I wanted to join them. I believe in taxing, but ASCN taxes the crap out of its members just so the very few people at the top fulfill their own person enjoyment. They had a project to build a titan, but they were only risking to tell 3 of their members about the project. That tells me how much they trust one and other. And when its all said and done, they build the thing and name it CYVOK, the name of the CEO of the executor corporation. The very least you could do was to name it something that would relate to all the hard work your members put into the project, not your selfish head. I can't believe people still fall for that alliance and join them. Sad but true I guess.

I only have one thing to say about BoB...RESPECT. I don't think people hate BoB, except those who lose their ships to them. Its just that they want to have what they have. Power, wealth, and alot of ASCN corpses.

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i beleive ASCN taxes at stations is 10% how is that taxing the crap out of its members, other allainces have higher rates than that. The titan was kept secret so that the POS where it was being built would net get destroyed, its a well known fact that within ASCN there are alot of spies, the way the build of the titan was handled was probably the way most alliances would have done it, most of LV didnt know about there titan being built either.

the titan was called steve actually, a name that was chosen by the members of the alliance.

so in all fairness your post is a complete load of rubbish.

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The 10% is for the missions and bounties, which is fine. But some of the corps in ASCN have some 20% tax on miners. I know this cause way back I wanted to join some of their industrial corps. A friend of mine wanting to join ASCN found out that some of the corps go as far as checking your hangar to make sure you had paid your dues. Like I said, I have NO problem with taxing, and I think its important. But if you are going to tax your members just so one person can fly a titan with his name on it, thats just total bull crap.

I'm not saying the construction of the titan shouldn't have been kept secret. Its just that, telling only 3 people in your entire alliance of some 4000 people tells alot about the alliance. I wouldn't want to be part of such a group, and I think you missed the point of my post.

And, the titan was indeed named CYVOK, here is the official player news.

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everybody hates us, and ASCN haven't lost the war (yet! :D)

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Originally by: Blacklight

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This might be a good opportunity to ask a few questions, for interest's sake, on a subject very close to my heart i.e. player driven content and it's impact on the player base at large.

I suppose these questions are directed at the following groups of people (not exclusively but as examples) relatively new players to Eve who haven't had the chance to move out to 0.0 space yet, players who prefer to play Eve solo and stay largely in empire, members of small corporations run independantly of alliances in 0.0 etc.

1. Are you at all interested in what goes on between the player factions/alliances in Eve?

2. Do you know what is currently going on between player factions/alliances in Eve (in the broadest sense e.g. who controls what space, who are friends/enemies etc.)

3. Do the actions of player factions/alliances have any real impact on your Eve experience?

4. Where do you get your information about player driven content from e.g. the Player News Centre, the Intergalactic Summit, CAOD forum etc?

There's a few large scale wars on around the south and the east of the map at the moment, perhaps not as monumental as some conflicts we've had in the past but fairly large none the less, so it'd be very interesting to hear how or indeed if the average Eve player notices.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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This might be a good opportunity to ask a few questions, for interest's sake, on a subject very close to my heart i.e. player driven content and it's impact on the player base at large.

I suppose these questions are directed at the following groups of people (not exclusively but as examples) relatively new players to Eve who haven't had the chance to move out to 0.0 space yet, players who prefer to play Eve solo and stay largely in empire, members of small corporations run independantly of alliances in 0.0 etc.

1. Are you at all interested in what goes on between the player factions/alliances in Eve?

2. Do you know what is currently going on between player factions/alliances in Eve (in the broadest sense e.g. who controls what space, who are friends/enemies etc.)

3. Do the actions of player factions/alliances have any real impact on your Eve experience?

4. Where do you get your information about player driven content from e.g. the Player News Centre, the Intergalactic Summit, CAOD forum etc?

There's a few large scale wars on around the south and the east of the map at the moment, perhaps not as monumental as some conflicts we've had in the past but fairly large none the less, so it'd be very interesting to hear how or indeed if the average Eve player notices.
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1. Yes, large fleet engagement seem well fun.

2. Only in the vagust terms. I've looked at the area's of control map a couple of times and know who controls the local 0.0 around where I'm ratting.

3. For the most part no. This comes with one huge caveat. Access to 0.0 resources seems to be required to generate the funds to advance my character after a certain point. If I can't advance my character because of the actions of player controlled groups o rhave to jump through to many hoops then well burning crusade is coming out next month and I'm under no obligation to play EvE.

4. Mainly CAOD forum.
"This is the Free Trader Beowulf calling anyone . . . Mayday, Mayday . . . we are under attack. . . main drive is gone. . . turrent number one not responding. . . Mayday . . . losing cabin pressure fa

Originally by: BobFromMarketing

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Have you ever played Eve? Anytime you assemble a ship it has "Your name"s "ship here" The ship was named Steve, I know, I've sat next to it. It's also the reason most BoB ships were named Steve for a period of time. Please don't go spouting things off if you have no idea whats going on.

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So how do you explain this line from the website:

"The Titan is the majestic Avatar of Amarrian design now named CYVOK's Avatar after its current pilot and one of the leading figures who made the production possible."

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