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Denga Vulture The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.21 15:59:00 - [91] Originally by: Mighty Baz Edited by: Mighty Baz on 21/12/2006 13:26:46 i just destroyed vaga last time by my myrmidon as i said HAC was nice cruz ship like a assault frigate was a nice frig, for some special mission or sth. I used sentry drons , btw lvl 5 , dms is awesome inculding myrmidon drone bonus. range of fire 80km Let me guess ..the vaga pilot was afk ?
ViperVenom Minmatar Fast Food Corp Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:22:00 - [92] Originally by: Denga Vulture Originally by: Mighty Baz Edited by: Mighty Baz on 21/12/2006 13:26:46 i just destroyed vaga last time by my myrmidon as i said HAC was nice cruz ship like a assault frigate was a nice frig, for some special mission or sth. I used sentry drons , btw lvl 5 , dms is awesome inculding myrmidon drone bonus. range of fire 80km Let me guess ..the vaga pilot was afk ? That Vaga pilot had to be AFK. All he had to do is kite. poof he gone... Sent drones have horrible tracking.
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:06:00 - [93] Unless the drones were 80k away.. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.23 17:51:00 - [94] Originally by: Laboratus One of my corp mate used to solo 6/10s and 8/10s in a cerberus. Average time, 10-20minutes. You can't do that in a BC. Been there tried that, lost my ship. The resistances and speeds favour the HACs so much, it just hurts. HACs are very good at what they do. BCs are just too slow for it. 10-20 minutes to solo a 6/10 or 8/10? A cerb will be lucky to finish an easy level 4 mission in 10-20 minutes solo, so either your corpmate lies, or something is very wrong with those plexes. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.23 18:02:00 - [95] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 20/12/2006 04:54:09 Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 20/12/2006 04:51:59 Originally by: DarkElf Edited by: DarkElf on 20/12/2006 01:18:48 rapier and tempest stabbed? armour tanked vaga DE Unlike you I do not mimic my setups. Vaga with armor tank? Better tank than shield tanking obviously. Viable? Yes... To say otherwise means you know nothing about the ship shield tanking, armor tanking, or no tanking. Non stabbed Vaga, and you still complain. Next please... Stabbed Tempest hrrmm Why would my Tempest be stabbed including a Rapier that has cloaking technology. I mean it can cloak for god sakes. Why do people put stabs on there ships? To escape... It's fun jumping into a crowd with a Rapier and ECM jamming 3 people to kill 1 then escaping due to the 4th able to scramble you. It's like assasination baby. You wouldn't know anything about tactics. You're still stuck on cookie cutter setups and mimican what others say is bad. Solo is the only way to live. Also something you know nothing about. Next please ;) Before you even attempt to reply to my response. Have you flown a Rapier with WCS's on in PvP? Have you dont the same with the Tempest? How about armor tanking the Vagabond for example. If the answer is no to all 3. Then why are you even posting a reply... When you figure that out, you will understand why we have less real combat pilots in EVE who actually know anything about the system. wtb real pilots commenting on setups please. WTF are u on dude. you don't know me fool. little comment about what your saying firstly you said you don't mumic your setups? you don't copy your setups? well why would you they're yours lol. ok i solo pvp a helluva lot if you speak to anyone who knows me and fitting 2 stabs to any pvp ships post kali is dumb and will get u killed very easily. and a rapier with cloak and 2 stabs? do u ever hope to lock anything in time? ppl like you make me laugh, you say that i know nothing about tactics, i use cookie cutter setups, that i don't solo or know anything about staying alive? u got all that from me laughing at u flying a stabbed rapier and armour tanking a vaga. wow that is seriously impressive. take a chill pill, lose the stabs and fight like a big boy. if u wanna see me fighting solo 4bs to my 1 then pls check podbase or my own killboard before ranting off. and next time try to make them actually make sense also pls. DE
Tasty Burger	Posted - 2006.12.24 09:49:00 - [96] ololol - It's great being Minmatar, ain't it?
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.12.24 11:18:00 - [97] I havent flown my vagabond since Kali but thats mainly because of the wcs nerf. I fell in love with the hurricane though. so yeah RIP HACs.
Ryysa North Face Force	Posted - 2006.12.24 12:16:00 - [98] lol at that famine guy, what a nub :D Anyhow, i don't see how a hurricane substitutes the vagabond? It's way easier to catch a hurricane than a vaga. Ofcourse vagabond probably does less damage, but it's a lot faster. The only way to make the hurricane go as fast as vaga is to shieldtank it.... That would make it have a lot worse tank than a vagabond... Maybe i am missing something... Anyhow, that said, i don't generally bother engaging drakes with my vaga, but hurricane/harbringer/myrmidon aren't that hard to kill when you can just use the vagabond's falloff bonus and stay out of web range. Simply said - if you get webbed in a vaga, it's time to stop flying it, if you don't get webbed, there's no way to get killed imo. All about target jamming
Olev	Posted - 2006.12.25 02:15:00 - [99] drones vs vaga? easy..shot em..
Captain Dragotahl	Posted - 2006.12.25 02:29:00 - [100] my opinion, not that its important but here it is lol, is that the pilots who originally flew HACS are moving on to Command ships. So to those pilots they are almost useless. however, i think its really remarkable how EVE is set up in a way that now there is a whole slew of new pilots just now jumping in to them. But regardless of what you personally think about HACs, when you run into one on the battlefield you still have to show it respect because oyur dealing with a new generation of pilot with new ideas and battle tactics. Even if its useless to you, never underestimate your oponent. Especially if you think your the best thing in the world. Cause its only when you get that*****y that some "newbie" in a HAC will tear you to pieces. Welcome to EVE :)
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.25 02:33:00 - [101] 1. Hacs have their role just like any other ship. 2. dont fly anything you cannot afford to lose. 3. Hacs PWN. 4. We get them for free? Im filing a complaint. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
xHalcyonx Amarr CyberDyne Industries Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.25 03:01:00 - [102] I <3 watching HAC videos and I plan on getting either the Zealot of Ishtar when July '07 rolls around...maybe both. HAC's aren't dead. Adapt and survive. High resists combined with superior boni equals a very competative ship. T2 BCs can and aree killed every day by HACs. As a sidenote I wish I had joined BoB but was fooled into thinking AXE Alliance was halfway decent. Any room for a 3-month old 3 mil SP 'newbie' in BoB?
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.12.25 04:55:00 - [103] Originally by: xHalcyonx I <3 watching HAC videos and I plan on getting either the Zealot of Ishtar when July '07 rolls around...maybe both. HAC's aren't dead. Adapt and survive. High resists combined with superior boni equals a very competative ship. T2 BCs can and aree killed every day by HACs. As a sidenote I wish I had joined BoB but was fooled into thinking AXE Alliance was halfway decent. Any room for a 3-month old 3 mil SP 'newbie' in BoB? Gogo alliance alliegence! ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.12.25 05:29:00 - [104] Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 25/12/2006 05:31:14 Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 20/12/2006 04:54:09 Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 20/12/2006 04:51:59 Originally by: DarkElf Edited by: DarkElf on 20/12/2006 01:18:48 rapier and tempest stabbed? armour tanked vaga DE Unlike you I do not mimic my setups. Vaga with armor tank? Better tank than shield tanking obviously. Viable? Yes... To say otherwise means you know nothing about the ship shield tanking, armor tanking, or no tanking. Non stabbed Vaga, and you still complain. Next please... Stabbed Tempest hrrmm Why would my Tempest be stabbed including a Rapier that has cloaking technology. I mean it can cloak for god sakes. Why do people put stabs on there ships? To escape... It's fun jumping into a crowd with a Rapier and ECM jamming 3 people to kill 1 then escaping due to the 4th able to scramble you. It's like assasination baby. You wouldn't know anything about tactics. You're still stuck on cookie cutter setups and mimican what others say is bad. Solo is the only way to live. Also something you know nothing about. Next please ;) Before you even attempt to reply to my response. Have you flown a Rapier with WCS's on in PvP? Have you dont the same with the Tempest? How about armor tanking the Vagabond for example. If the answer is no to all 3. Then why are you even posting a reply... When you figure that out, you will understand why we have less real combat pilots in EVE who actually know anything about the system. wtb real pilots commenting on setups please. WTF are u on dude. you don't know me fool. little comment about what your saying firstly you said you don't mumic your setups? you don't copy your setups? well why would you they're yours lol. ok i solo pvp a helluva lot if you speak to anyone who knows me and fitting 2 stabs to any pvp ships post kali is dumb and will get u killed very easily. and a rapier with cloak and 2 stabs? do u ever hope to lock anything in time? ppl like you make me laugh, you say that i know nothing about tactics, i use cookie cutter setups, that i don't solo or know anything about staying alive? u got all that from me laughing at u flying a stabbed rapier and armour tanking a vaga. wow that is seriously impressive. take a chill pill, lose the stabs and fight like a big boy. if u wanna see me fighting solo 4bs to my 1 then pls check podbase or my own killboard before ranting off. and next time try to make them actually make sense also pls. DE <3 Assumptions. Pre-Kali not Post-Kali. To the other babble, I wont comment on. You obviously have no clue what you speak of, only assuming more non-sense due to the typical cookie cutter pvper attitude on assuming you know when you don't. You have to fly the ships and the setups to have experience in them. It's like being a virgin and giving advice on sex. Stabbed ECM Rapier = Overpowering (Now nerfed) :) Stabbed Tempest = Annoying but effective (Now nerfed) :) Armor Tanking Vagabond = Different and fun Shield Tanking Vagabond = Annoying but effective Shield Tanking Vagabond Stabbed = Annoying but effective (Now nerfed) Vile - Recruiting Pirates
Ryysa North Face Force	Posted - 2006.12.25 06:10:00 - [105] Armor-Tanked vagabond = uninstall eve All about target jamming
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.12.25 07:48:00 - [106] Originally by: Ryysa Armor-Tanked vagabond = uninstall eve The above is another point on why so many pilot fail to understand that it's not just the setup the beats your opponent but you yourself that beats your opponent. If you came here thinking that flying A ship with B fitting because C said it was the win or uninstall EVE. Then you have already lost. Welcome to EVE.
Erotic Irony RONA Deepspace Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.25 08:24:00 - [107] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: AcheLone i don't see the point of HAC price going down. Sure Tier 2 BC can pawn HAC in some occasion but it just too vurnerable to Battleship which HAC can handle quite good. ITs just like Tier2 BC = Rock, HAC = Scissor, BS = Paper. So Rock please meet Paper, Paper please meet Scissor and Scissor please meet Rock. you know.. rock paper and scissors dotn work when you hit two rocks until you put the paper on fire and use it to melt the scissors. I love it! We have a winner. ___
Ryysa North Face Force	Posted - 2006.12.25 11:01:00 - [108] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Ryysa Armor-Tanked vagabond = uninstall eve The above is another point on why so many pilot fail to understand that it's not just the setup the beats your opponent but you yourself that beats your opponent. If you came here thinking that flying A ship with B fitting because C said it was the win or uninstall EVE. Then you have already lost. Welcome to EVE. Actually, i got a kill:loss ratio of about 90:1 atm, so i do know how to win. I also know that in a 1v1, i'd *****an armortanked vaga any day with a shieldtanked one. Let's see.... you are slow as hell, your tank sucks, and you do no damage, yeah great idea... You know, there's a difference between good out of the box setups that work (Nanophoon anyone?) and just shouting EUREKA at everything that is different. Different doesn't mean better, just because you convert your vaga into a three legged puppy, doesn't mean that you are now special and uber. All about target jamming
Grez Minmatar The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.25 12:29:00 - [109] I fly Zealots and Absolutions (and Harbringers). They all have their individual uses. An Absolution is a much heavier tanked Zealot. Sure it can dish out more damage, and tank more, but it's not as agile, and takes a ******* age to get into range (if it does). The Zealot is an awesome ship. It can dish out damage far beyond the reach of the Harbringer and Absolution, and is insanely hard to hit because of it's agility. Factor in the T2 resists, and you have a nice little package. The Harbringer is a cheap mix between the two. It can dish out damage, but it's cheap, has T1 resists, it also can't lock as far as the Zealot or Abso can. Each individual class has it's uses. HAC's are deffinately not useless, and they have their uses, and are very good at what they do. Think about it - You're more likely to lose a tier 2 BC against a BS than you are a HAC, and HAC's are made specificly to take out battleships (as has been said thousands of times). --- Cache Clearer
Hakera Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.25 14:06:00 - [110] funny thread.
Demoria The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.25 14:59:00 - [111] Armortanked vaga = a vaga without gyros and nanos/inertias, MAN, I NEED TO TRY THAT!! Is there anyway to remotely uninstall his EVE? I mean, it is for his own, and his vaga's (that is, if he has got one), good. ------------------------------------------ i am the flying moo ham edd
Angus McLean Gallente Divinity Trials	Posted - 2006.12.25 20:08:00 - [112] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Ryysa Armor-Tanked vagabond = uninstall eve The above is another point on why so many pilot fail to understand that it's not just the setup the beats your opponent but you yourself that beats your opponent. If you came here thinking that flying A ship with B fitting because C said it was the win or uninstall EVE. Then you have already lost. Welcome to EVE. Famine Aligher'ri = fails at eve. Sorry mate, you lose the game. Armortanked vaga = nub-mans vaga, and extremely retarded. You are slow, you have no damage. You cant essentially tank worth crap. Famine ftl
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2006.12.25 20:40:00 - [113] While I do not fly the vagabond I can see that it could be made effective while armour tanking. Try a different and it may just work. I like the idea of it tanking instead of a running ship like those lame stababonds. Would have to have balls to take it into pvp instead of saying, "oh well i cant kill it i will run instead". at least he has to commit to the fight. Lets see if my sig can survive this round of *****ing There will be no survivors now that i'm around - Xorus pwnt - Immy!!!11
korrey Fusion Enterprises Ltd	Posted - 2006.12.25 20:45:00 - [114] Originally by: ThaMa Gebir While I do not fly the vagabond I can see that it could be made effective while armour tanking. Try a different and it may just work. I like the idea of it tanking instead of a running ship like those lame stababonds. Would have to have balls to take it into pvp instead of saying, "oh well i cant kill it i will run instead". at least he has to commit to the fight. I could see where your argument is coming from. But with a 200m ship, running isnt a half bad idea. Also the ship is a very terrible armor tanker with only 4 low slots, and without those 4 slots used for damage mods, you wont break a T1 frigs tank. Tanking is nice, but armor tanking on a vagabond is a no no for anyone. No matter how smart they think they are. And to Thama, thats pretty much all the vagabond was made for
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2006.12.25 21:00:00 - [115] Edited by: ThaMa Gebir on 25/12/2006 21:02:05 True, that point I will concede to but I do also find that the real "spice" in this game is the fact people can ad will use non cookie cutter setups, thus creating situations the enemy might not have thought of before hand, possibly throwing him off and him losing the fight. As an example I have on a couple of occasions scared a few people off before when in an armour tanked cruise missile ecm raven, they weren't expecting that one...... As they hit the brick wall they crapped out one I am sure. Anyway back to topic. If you wanna chat anymore will be on tomorrow early in am (approx 8.00 eve time). All different and all good imo. Lets see if my sig can survive this round of *****ing There will be no survivors now that i'm around - Xorus pwnt - Immy!!!11
Ryysa North Face Force	Posted - 2007.01.01 01:54:00 - [116] Originally by: ThaMa Gebir Edited by: ThaMa Gebir on 25/12/2006 21:02:05 True, that point I will concede to but I do also find that the real "spice" in this game is the fact people can ad will use non cookie cutter setups, thus creating situations the enemy might not have thought of before hand, possibly throwing him off and him losing the fight. As an example I have on a couple of occasions scared a few people off before when in an armour tanked cruise missile ecm raven, they weren't expecting that one...... As they hit the brick wall they crapped out one I am sure. Anyway back to topic. If you wanna chat anymore will be on tomorrow early in am (approx 8.00 eve time). All different and all good imo. wow, cruise missile ecm raven is SO special, really, it's that special that it didn't get nerfed to hell and back in kali because no one was flying it right? wts: clue. All about target jamming
ReePeR McAllem Amarr The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.01.01 03:58:00 - [117] Originally by: Trakl Originally by: Cramps Edited by: Cramps on 15/12/2006 09:49:01 Originally by: Mighty Baz R.I.P. HACs btw how much is worth any bpo of hac atm? 10b max , probably and the best ship for 3/10 plex farming cheerss What a fabulous topic! You've dropped a statement which will no doubt have unimaginable repercussions on the way everyone looks at EVE and life and the universe and everything! Not only that, but you've made your point with an absolutely overwhelmingly convincing argumentative discourse which redefines the way everyone in the world should try to spark debate! Here's to you, o prince of eloquence! This is perhaps the funniest forum post I have ever seen, and to be sure the funniest in the eve forums. I choked on my lunch while reading this, and made me feel comfortable and safe in my assumption that in the vast jungle of idiocy to be found in Eve, there are green lungs of intelligence and wit. Thank you very much. I second that, I nearly sneezed cola throught my nose sitting here in the office. Thank you very much indeed

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