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Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:14:00 -
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MAGZ = a simple Butter Dog without any facts ..
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N Solarz
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:15:00 -
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*cough* LOOK AT MY SIG *endcough*
this post has been approved by DHB FooFighter
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Muesli Monster
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:15:00 -
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 Originally by: O Thief
Edited by: O Thief on 01/01/2007 23:08:06
Butter Dog is unavailable for public comment.
However, he wished me to point out that Count is a man who has never lied on a public forum, and as such you can trust what he says. 
lol, we know its your alt butters.
No, youre totaly right, he just doesnt answer 'allegations'...
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wdwm Katarr
Amarr
Office linebackers
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:16:00 -
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If they've already said no privatley why do you wish them to say no so publically?
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Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:16:00 -
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The only reason Shroud Of Darkness are here is that the IAC need a gate-campin-noob-mascot.
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Elmar Solderi
Gallente
N4S
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:16:00 -
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*logs on iss forum alt, reads the internal post, spits cola all over the screen short cirkuting it*
Thyrax man can i have what ever your smokeing x 5?
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Hell No
Your last chosen diplomat was Tyrrax, so please make sure he posts to clarify your position.
Your member corporations office leases expire in 48hrs. At that time, all offices will be permanently on 60 day pre-paid rent to ISS NAP/Friendly corporations.
It is in IAC leaderships hands as to whether than includes their member corporations.
The sun doesn't shine in certain places on the body. That is where you can shove your offer.
Team Minmatar
Carriers need Clone Vats
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/01/2007 23:18:29
Originally by: Press Officer
Not even close to what was said .... try again and shuffle the pack.
/emote shuffles..
It does not matter what the offer is.. the point is Count T knew for a fact IAC won't accept it. Therefore..........
Its for show, to colour IAC as a belligerent, blood thirsty rabble. Well maybe they are but... this offer was not genuine. The response was known before hand.
Only the blind and ISS shareholders can't see this for what it is. But hey maybe the ISS shareholders are actually the intended audience and not IAC at all....?
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Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:21:00 -
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It does not matter what the offer is.. the point is Count T know for a fact IAC won't accept it. Therefore
Therefore nothing ... its called being smart ..... shall I spell it for you 
If they reject any offer behind close doors and spin the total opposite to the public and the ISS shareholders then its the smartest move ever to put it on the public table so everyone knowsin Eve whats the IAC are after ..
The ISS offered the station back after the IAC declared war on them ... its that simple.
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer
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It does not matter what the offer is.. the point is Count T know for a fact IAC won't accept it. Therefore
Therefore nothing ... its called being smart ..... shall I spell it for you
If they reject any offer behind close doors and spin the total opposite to the public and the ISS shareholders then its the smartest move ever to put it on the public table so everyone knowsin Eve whats the IAC are after ..
The ISS offered the station back after the IAC declared war on them ... its that simple.
PWYM
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Gutsani
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele
Your member corporations office leases expire in 48hrs. At that time, all offices will be permanently on 60 day pre-paid rent to ISS NAP/Friendly corporations.
Let me explain you how this negotiating thingie works, its really simple!
You say like "these are the settings, do you accept it"
Then they say like "no!" or "ok"
And you are like "ok .. <new settings>, and these?"
NOT
"Accept it or i press this red button and the whole building will collapse!!  "
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Muadeeb Ousil
Minmatar
Office linebackers
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer
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It does not matter what the offer is.. the point is Count T know for a fact IAC won't accept it. Therefore
Therefore nothing ... its called being smart ..... shall I spell it for you
If they reject any offer behind close doors and spin the total opposite to the public and the ISS shareholders then its the smartest move ever to put it on the public table so everyone knowsin Eve whats the IAC are after ..
The ISS offered the station back after the IAC declared war on them ... its that simple.
And the offer is plainly pispoor...
Any Shareholder should be able to see that. I still think a return to the status quo would have been rejected as to much water has crossed the bridge now and more importantly IAC owe -A- something and i think i know what they want.
However at least an offer of a return to the status quo would have be seen to be more fair in the public eye.
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Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:25:00 -
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PWYM .... sorry attempt when your argument fails ...
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/01/2007 23:26:44
Originally by: Press Officer
Therefore nothing ... its called being smart ..... shall I spell it for you
Look you will see what you want to see ... as will I, as will whoever reads the forums...
Point is Count T's OP does not lead to peace it leads to an escalation of the conflict if that was indeed possible.
Which contradicts one of the key things Count T stated in his OP:
Originally by: Count Tesassine
ISS is not interested in dragging on with this war. We're roleplaying a corporate entity, and as such war is bad for business.
So.. either Count T is stupid, or this OP was a subtle lie.... perhaps he is getting better at it.... next time we may not even notice. 
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer
PWYM .... sorry attempt when your argument fails ...
if you'll notice, i have no argument, i'm spectating. You, on the other hand, still need to Post With Your Main
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 01/01/2007 23:33:14
Originally by: Nez Perces
Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/01/2007 23:18:29
Originally by: Press Officer
Not even close to what was said .... try again and shuffle the pack.
/emote shuffles..
It does not matter what the offer is.. the point is Count T knew for a fact IAC won't accept it. Therefore..........
Its for show, to colour IAC as a belligerent, blood thirsty rabble. Well maybe they are but... this offer was not genuine. The response was known before hand.
Only the blind and ISS shareholders can't see this for what it is. But hey maybe the ISS shareholders are actually the intended audience and not IAC at all....?
In that case, if you are correct, thanks to Count for posting, and to IAC for the nature of their response. If I wanted to see evidence of ISS attmpting to avoid unpleasantness, yet again, and making a concrete peace offer, and IAC's response to it, I've seen it. I can now say I'm confident that ISS are behaving as I would expect of them in defence of MY isk.
Myn
speaking as a shareholder, not as a member of MC
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ollobrains
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:33:00 -
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look at it this way ISS get knocked back friendly corps and ISS corps get full office rentals for the 60 days this kills IAC hopes of taking it back uqickly
do IAC want the outpost back or do they have other plans on a fallback position if ISS are kept with it what will they do with it.
If they want to move in or rent it out its a business deal but probably non core for them anyway
They could always rent it to us privateers lol
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Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Press Officer on 01/01/2007 23:36:13
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Look you will see what you want to see ... as will I, as will whoever reads the forums...
Point is Count T's OP does not lead to peace it leads to an escalation of the conflict if that was indeed possible
Complete dribble ....
IAC have already stated that there is no way for peace .... all Count T was doing was making it public so now one can spin the spin ......
Please engage brain ..... The IAC should have at least the balls to say "we don't want peace at all, lets fight"
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Serenity Steele
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:33:00 -
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These are the facts:
A) It's a genuine offer
B) It's posted here because we want all IAC members to be aware.
C) It's an opportunity for IAC to enter dialogue.
New ISS IPO
Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
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Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:35:00 -
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if you'll notice, i have no argument, i'm spectating. You, on the other hand, still need to Post With Your Main
It is .... but its nice to see your total argument still has substance
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maGz
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele
These are the facts:
A) It's a genuine offer
B) It's posted here because we want all IAC members to be aware.
C) It's an opportunity for IAC to enter dialogue.
These are the facts:
A) You knew IAC would never accept an offer like this, so you're just looking for public support
B) You are ****-scared of AAA and hope to avoid them attacking your outposts by making this offer
C) ISS suck (being the smack-tard I am, I had to include that little fact)
PS. No Press Officer/Mongo - You can't have my babies. PWYM btw 
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N Solarz
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele
These are the facts:
A) It's a genuine offer
B) It's posted here because we want all IAC members to be aware.
C) It's an opportunity for IAC to enter dialogue.
IAC memebers are aware, and we are currently laughing at the offer on vent (im sure ur spys have heard)
IAC members stand behind there ELECTED Leaders 100%
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Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:37:00 -
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No Press Officer/Mongo - You can't have my babies. PWYM btw
try again 
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GO MaZ
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer
Complete dribble ....
IAC have already stated that there is no way for peace .... all Count T was doing was making it public and offering the same terms public ......
Please engage brain ..... The IAC should have at least the balls to say "we don't want peace at all, lets fight"
I never thought someone could contradict themselves in a single post. Also I think some of you need to reaquaint yourselves with the station aquisition system 
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Arrgs
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:39:00 -
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Actually Myn, the best way they could defend your isk as a shareholder is to hire MC.
Oh, wait.
My first video!
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Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Press Officer on 01/01/2007 23:42:22
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Also I think some of you need to reaquaint yourselves with the station aquisition system
Hint for the Priory ... they don't operate like Stargates
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Kalamurii Izanthor
Soldiers Of Darkness
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:43:00 -
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IAC are aware of the offer, and we aware of the offer before IAC made a decision. IAC was asked on their forums whether or not peace was possible, and the answer by the IAC players was NO. (The offer of peace was made public to the IAC playerbase) ISS know what they have coming to them, and knew what was coming to them before they made the post. Therefore, this is a publicity stunt on the public forums.
Who in EVE (other than ISS) would have thought IAC would accept these terms?
Everyone knows whats going on, and its not going in ISS's favor. I would have expected an offer that would atleast ease the rage of the IAC playerbase, and maybe the offer could have been accepted, but not on ISS terms.
Both entities are trying to save face, IAC wont back down when the puck is in our court.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Steele
These are the facts:
A) It's a genuine offer
B) It's posted here because we want all IAC members to be aware.
C) It's an opportunity for IAC to enter dialogue.
One thing I can't stand for is hypocrisy mascaraded as innocence....
A) Its a genuine offer. >>>>>>>> no its not, you knew the answer before hand, they already said NO
B) It's posted here because we want all IAC member to be aware. >>>>>> you want to colour IAC's leadership as irresponsable and belligerent.. i.e drive a wedge between IAC top brass and the rank and file
C) Its an opportunity for IAC to enter dialogue. >>>>>>> No, its a threat mascaraded as an opportunity, you can enter dialogue with IAC at any time, just open a private convo.. what you wanted to do is force them to enter dialogue by exposing a deal which they alredy refused and which seems reasonable on the face of it... but that IAC will not accept for some reason or another.. you don't want dialogue you want IAC to bend over and take what you will give them...
This was a "Who's the daddy?" post......there is nothing wrong with that, but don't play the innocent card. Its fooling nobody.
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NITROX UpAllNightGaming
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:44:00 -
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Who in EVE (other than ISS) would have thought IAC would accept these terms?
Most people tbh ...
You attack the ISS and they give you back the station ... its seems simple to me
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2007.01.01 23:46:00 -
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Go go IAC, give them hell.
As for the Count, are we expecting a response to a certain truth defecit recently?
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Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
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