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defiler
Caldari
Mad Hermit
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Posted - 2007.01.03 06:43:00 -
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If you can't accept the situation then don't log in before the end of the scheduled downtime. Problem solved.
Seriously, what's so bad with bringing a potentially unstable cluster online if the users are aware of what might happen if they log in? If initial (which I'd wager are quite thorough) tests indicate rock-solid performance, shouldn't they open it up?
I for one welcome the opportunity to take care of some non-critical in-station business, but I won't undock within 24 hours no matter how stable the cluster seems. I humbly suggest that you do the same.
Mad Hermit - Minding our own business since 2004. |
rodgerd
Gallente
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.03 07:17:00 -
[32]
Will this fix the incredible dissapearing skillbooks, I wonder?
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Retsil Evad
Caldari
Coalition of Inter-Galactic Addicted Rodents
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:20:00 -
[33]
As long as they get the network infrastructure and database sorted that is all I am worried about at the moment
CIGAR Corp is Recruiting |
Scorpyn
Caldari
The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2007.01.03 09:36:00 -
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Why enable logins before you consider the server to be stable enough for reimbursement claims to be valid? May I remind you that it's not a test server? You're aware that most people don't consider EVE to be a beta version anymore, right?
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Siddious
Brotherhood of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2007.01.03 10:00:00 -
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Please also fix the mailbug during this downtime. If you expect it only takes 12 hour make it a bit longer and fix that anoing bug.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 10:52:00 -
[36]
 Originally by: Dark Shikari
In which case... why? The mail bug has been around for weeks now, and CCP themselves says its fixed in the code--why not deploy a small patch to fix it? I'd happily sacrifice a few hours of downtime to get that bug fixed.
I fixed that bug myself. I don't check my mail anymore and simply mental ignore that icon. Problem solved! .. CCP style! 
"It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö"
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Dmian
Gallente
Starline Engineering Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:05:00 -
[37]
Ha!, people loves to complain and demand. And talking about addictions...
Good luck with the upgrade. I'll care for other things during that time.
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Johncrab
Minmatar
Typo Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:08:00 -
[38]
Fix the damn bugs. The knowne issues page looks like my grocery list for xmas dinner.  |
Umbriele
Gallente
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:12:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Argh damnit why in the vacation? 
Vacation + downtime = time to clear the flat 
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Mortok Tristan
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Why enable logins before you consider the server to be stable enough for reimbursement claims to be valid? May I remind you that it's not a test server? You're aware that most people don't consider EVE to be a beta version anymore, right?
Its very simple really, they wont know its stable, until WE test it :) Since day one the playerbase has been CCP's QA department in case you haven't noticed.
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Bl4zer
Ubar Asteroid Hugging Collective
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:34:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Kylania
What's your PayPal address? I'll send you $1.45 for your 3 days of "lost" play if you're unable to read the EULA which states "While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play."
Just because there is no guarantee of service does not mean that there is no compensation due if the service is not provided.
For example, all airlines have similar clauses about not guaranteeing that a particular flight will be flown. But if they do not provide the booked flight then compensation is due.
And the clauses that some shyster companies try to insert into their contracts saying that no compensation is payable will just be ignored if they ever come before a beak.
I'll send you my paypal address in game. Its nice that you have taken over CCP's liability in this issue.
Save the Ubar asteroids
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Gothikia
Revelations Inc.
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
We apologize for the inconvenience the extended downtime will cause for some members of the community and encourage training a long duration skill.
29 days skill long enough?  if not im gonna be a tad upset and be a little girl and cry about it...
then there will be bloodshed
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Scorpyn
Caldari
The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 03/01/2007 11:47:04
Originally by: Mortok Tristan
Originally by: Scorpyn
Why enable logins before you consider the server to be stable enough for reimbursement claims to be valid? May I remind you that it's not a test server? You're aware that most people don't consider EVE to be a beta version anymore, right?
Its very simple really, they wont know its stable, until WE test it :) Since day one the playerbase has been CCP's QA department in case you haven't noticed.
The 2 last questions were rethorical.
The problem isn't the lack of a QA department (there is one actually), the problem is the lack of bugfixes. It doesn't matter if you make bug reports when known issues aren't dealt with.
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Eric Hunt
Amarr
UK Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.03 12:29:00 -
[44]
I am like thousands of other players - totally addicted to Eve, and while we all try and keep our doubts at bay with regard to stability, extended downtimes and general crappyness - this is now begining to smell like WoW
Has CCP been bought out by WoW, or is it normal for a well run, outstanding and much loved company to go down the road of complete ruin by ignoring its customers, by releasing software / updates and patches when it wants, with no regard to the consquences. I think we have lost nearly a week in 24/7 game play to instability, lagg and crappy responses - but all I ever hear is "Its in the T & C's )
Customers are what keep Eve alive, profitable and enjoyable - CCP need to realise this
This is my opinion only and does not reflect the views of my Corp or Alliance
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Maggie Moo
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Posted - 2007.01.03 12:39:00 -
[45]
How about updating the item database and seeding gas harvesters on market?
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Freaky Bare
Minmatar
Blueprint Haus
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2007.01.03 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Freaky Bare on 03/01/2007 12:53:14
I am fine with the extended downtime. I am even glad they are covering themselves by saying 12-24 hours. I do not think it is right, however, to tell us 'go ahead and play - but no reimbursements if we mess up.' I don't mine risking a cheap ship if I decide to fly it, but other things could be at risk.
For example: I have some buy/sell orders on the market. If it charges me instead of my client, when they buy something from me - I won't be reimbursed??
I know that sounds unlikely, but what problems ARE likely? This is a hardware update - no patch. So it should be using code that is already working. (for the most part) I know that bugs may come up, but why the extreme policy?
Regarding paying for downtime. We ALL know there is some downtime. It is the same here as for most/all other games. We can choose to accept that as a fact of life ... or we can stop paying for the game. We do not have a clause in our contract with CCP penalizing us for cancelling our subscriptions.
edit: Oh, and never do this on a Thursday - it is my day off! Let us make a list - any days/times that do not work for every single subscriber please remove from your update/patch calender - thanks!
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Shemar
Gallente
Photesthetics
Glamour Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.03 13:35:00 -
[47]
Originally by: kieron
Tranquility will undergo an extended 24 hour downtime for external network infrastructure changes and database server software updates.
Translation:
We are not fixing any of the problems you know about, but we are fixing a bunch of problems you don't know about... yet
Originally by: kieron
We do not expect the changes and upgrade to exceed 12 hours and hope to allow connections to Tranquility sooner; however we cannot guarantee network stability or connectivity until after the end of the scheduled downtime.
Users that log in before the end of the scheduled downtime will be playing 'at risk' and will not be reimbursed for losses incurred by upgrade related issues.
Translation:
As usual we will use the poor suckers that can't wait to play as beta testers. 
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Dmian
Gallente
Starline Engineering Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.03 14:57:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Shemar
Originally by: kieron
Tranquility will undergo an extended 24 hour downtime for external network infrastructure changes and database server software updates.
Translation:
We are not fixing any of the problems you know about, but we are fixing a bunch of problems you don't know about... yet
Originally by: kieron
We do not expect the changes and upgrade to exceed 12 hours and hope to allow connections to Tranquility sooner; however we cannot guarantee network stability or connectivity until after the end of the scheduled downtime.
Users that log in before the end of the scheduled downtime will be playing 'at risk' and will not be reimbursed for losses incurred by upgrade related issues.
Translation:
As usual we will use the poor suckers that can't wait to play as beta testers.
It's a little simplistic to see it that way.
First sentence can be understood as: we are fixing problems on the server side so it runs better.
The second is more like: we know some of you will try to connect before the mentioned time and we can't do nothing to stop you, so don't cry later if you miss something.
Regards.
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implanted
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:16:00 -
[49]
"whine"want money back....."whine"fix mail....."whine"cant play.....Get a life and go to the pub for the day ffs i hate bloody whiners
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Craefter
Royal Logistics Service
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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:28:00 -
[50]
Please don't upgrade anything and go back on another vacation!
Apart from the e-mail bug things have been running pretty well while you were away. No Jump queues, no major lag, client crashes.
Hmm... I see a pattern emerging.
I think it's called "job security" what you are doing, is it? 
-Creafter
The Kingdom has started, don't miss your chance to be part of it.
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Sainna
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Posted - 2007.01.03 16:41:00 -
[51]
Every MMORPG has its whiners.
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Ironnight
Caldari
Bloody Needles
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:25:00 -
[52]
Extended DT again?
And letting people on early with no reimbursment is asking for trouble.
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zuppy2020
Minmatar
W33D Corp.
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:48:00 -
[53]
Originally by: implanted
"whine"want money back....."whine"fix mail....."whine"cant play.....Get a life and go to the pub for the day ffs i hate bloody whiners
Well ... I'm whining on my money, I want just a little respect from CCP. They're not doing this for me, they're doing for themselves to earn more money from me and you. 
I told you, it's not about the money. And I do have a life, actually I need a day off.
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kieron
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:54:00 -
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The changes being made are to improve connectivity to the game and improve database performance. No game play changes are being made, nor are any patches being deployed. A patch to address issues, such as the mail notification bug, will be deployed later in the month.
In regards to those voicing concerns about the server being available after the infrastructure upgrade and before the end of the scheduled downtime, they have been noted. If there is a large enough response from the community, I will have the operations team take TQ down for the entire duration of the upgrade and checks. In that case, EVE will be unavailable for the full 24 hours.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online |
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defiler
Caldari
Mad Hermit
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:11:00 -
[55]
Originally by: kieron
[...] In that case, EVE will be unavailable for the full 24 hours.
Noooooo!
Mad Hermit - Minding our own business since 2004. |
Demitri Klashnikov
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:57:00 -
[56]
Originally by: zuppy2020
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
No downtime, no patches. And if you don't have patches, you wont get any new content or bugs fixed.
You really can't have the cake and eat it too. Or do you suggest that CCP try to jam all patches into the 1 hour daily downtime, or even have no daily downtime at all?
I know how things work because I'm a programmer, but ... I really don't care about it as long as it happens on a day that I paid for. It's not about the money, it's about respect.
How much did you pay for the Revelations expansion pack?
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Altaree
Gallente
Red Frog Investments
Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:03:00 -
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You sir, have a POOR sense of humor. Ignore the whiners and bring it back up asap!
Originally by: kieron
The changes being made are to improve connectivity to the game and improve database performance. No game play changes are being made, nor are any patches being deployed. A patch to address issues, such as the mail notification bug, will be deployed later in the month.
In regards to those voicing concerns about the server being available after the infrastructure upgrade and before the end of the scheduled downtime, they have been noted. If there is a large enough response from the community, I will have the operations team take TQ down for the entire duration of the upgrade and checks. In that case, EVE will be unavailable for the full 24 hours.
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Harisdrop
Gallente
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:07:00 -
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This is a disturbing trend. I have always believed CCP did things as they see fit. If there is any indication you go by popular vote on a simple thing as this I hope the EVE gods grace on the future.
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Shemar
Gallente
Photesthetics
Glamour Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:14:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Demitri Klashnikov
How much did you pay for the Revelations expansion pack?
The correct question is:
Can I go back and play EVE the way it was pre-revelations? I'd jump on that in a second.
There are no free packs. Having thousands of paying customers beta test CCPs experiments does not count as a 'free upgrade'. The fact that CCP shoves bugs that have been around for years under the rug and spends time and money on new content is an obvious indication that the real focus is on attracting new customers, not improving the game.
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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:30:00 -
[60]
Originally by: kieron
In that case, EVE will be unavailable for the full 24 hours.
I saw quite a different response from your community right after you said this.
Good luck, CCP. I hope this improves the game we all love to play, and what the majority of people who come to these boards love to whine about.
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