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Tisanta Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom	Posted - 2007.01.04 08:12:00 - [1] rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Tisanta Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom	Posted - 2007.01.04 08:15:00 - [2] sry made a mistake 30km range.. not 20 --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.04 08:18:00 - [3] but of course it was the maelstrom and not the rohk that got the crappy speed and agility, etc. rohk i think needs to have some mass added and such.
Arshes Nei Dark-Rising	Posted - 2007.01.04 08:25:00 - [4] Originally by: Tisanta rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. Why do i get the feeling there is no web and scrambler included in that omg pwn setup? I wont go into what i think of solo pwn setups without them, im sure you can imagine. Dark-Rising
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.04 08:26:00 - [5] The speed seems to be the result of the"omg caldari heavy mass slow as smell)whines. And it also seems to be overlooked due to the drake whines. But....It does only have a 50 dronebay....Drones 4tw! __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr.
Majutsu Caldari S.Y.N.D	Posted - 2007.01.04 08:48:00 - [6] No way can a Rokh be passive tanked effectively and have any sort of tackling/webbing ability. Obviously not needed if you're sniping, but for a blaster setup. 3xccc rigs and an active setup is far better. There's nothing wrong with the Rokh, it's perfectly balanced. Caldari Gunboat Pilot
Belial02 Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.04 09:07:00 - [7] As in 'Im Caldari so its perfectly normal that i keep getting all the cookies in the jar'? Then no... Nerf Caldari dammit.
Laboratus Gallente BGG	Posted - 2007.01.04 09:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Arshes Nei Originally by: Tisanta rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. Why do i get the feeling there is no web and scrambler included in that omg pwn setup? I wont go into what i think of solo pwn setups without them, im sure you can imagine. Fitting tackling eq on a BS is like trying to saw with a hammer. Wrong tool for the job. Anyone you really want to tackle will be long gone before you can get a lock and the others... Anyways, using rokh for a blaster boat is a bit too risky imho. Short range ships are dispensible use and lose stuff. Easily replacable would be key. And it simply is not so atm. Anyways, the setup will be pwnd at the first sight of a roaming gang or gate camp and is a wee bit expensive considering. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.04 09:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Laboratus Originally by: Arshes Nei Originally by: Tisanta rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. Why do i get the feeling there is no web and scrambler included in that omg pwn setup? I wont go into what i think of solo pwn setups without them, im sure you can imagine. Fitting tackling eq on a BS is like trying to saw with a hammer. Wrong tool for the job. Anyone you really want to tackle will be long gone before you can get a lock and the others... Anyways, using rokh for a blaster boat is a bit too risky imho. Short range ships are dispensible use and lose stuff. Easily replacable would be key. And it simply is not so atm. Anyways, the setup will be pwnd at the first sight of a roaming gang or gate camp and is a wee bit expensive considering. Wrong... scramblers on bs can be handy, using long range guns in short range fights is risky as well... Yes blasterrokh is an option, but you need neutrons, not electrons and damage is far from THAT impressive. -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve. McGreedy
Kagura Nikon Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2007.01.04 09:21:00 - [10] switch rokh speed and agility with maelstrom and everyone will be happy. If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!!
Laboratus Gallente BGG	Posted - 2007.01.04 09:34:00 - [11] Originally by: LUKEC Wrong... scramblers on bs can be handy, using long range guns in short range fights is risky as well... Yes blasterrokh is an option, but you need neutrons, not electrons and damage is far from THAT impressive. Still, having a tackler with you produces better results enabling you to perform better. A web is usually more effective, as it reduces speed and transvectral reducing lost dps. Or some EW modules. They usually give a nice advantage in a fight. And yes, you are right, using long range guns in a short range fight is bringing a knife to a gun fight. Not really wise either. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Arshes Nei Dark-Rising	Posted - 2007.01.04 09:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Laboratus Originally by: Arshes Nei Originally by: Tisanta rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. Why do i get the feeling there is no web and scrambler included in that omg pwn setup? I wont go into what i think of solo pwn setups without them, im sure you can imagine. Fitting tackling eq on a BS is like trying to saw with a hammer. Wrong tool for the job. Anyone you really want to tackle will be long gone before you can get a lock and the others... Anyways, using rokh for a blaster boat is a bit too risky imho. Short range ships are dispensible use and lose stuff. Easily replacable would be key. And it simply is not so atm. Anyways, the setup will be pwnd at the first sight of a roaming gang or gate camp and is a wee bit expensive considering. If you would read the part i quoted and replied to you would notice that his setup mentions being good at solo work. Now i dont know about you but i use scramblers and webs when i go out solo, even on a BS. And a web and scrambler dont mean your in a tackling ship, it just means you can hold down more people even if you have a tackler with you. Thats why i personally dont like the blaster rokh in small gangs that much. Its all fine and dandy saying im a BS and tackling isnt my role, but if i need to be within 20km anyway to do any real damage i just might aswell fit a scrambler to make sure people remain in the company of our gang, cause you know, tacklers tend to die and stuff. Dark-Rising
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.01.04 10:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Tisanta rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. I would love to see how you came up with a 20km optimal range... 4.8km base x 1.25 (sharpshooter) x 1.5 (ship bonus) x 1.25 (Null bonus) = 11.25km. Perhaps you could further enlighten us on the 80% resistances, passive shield tank bit i.e. mid-slot configuration?... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Lucian Corvinus Gallente Expert Systems	Posted - 2007.01.04 10:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Tisanta rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. Lol.. please enlighten us on your fitting, cause atm you are probably the only one able to get those stats..
Doxs Roxs White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2007.01.04 10:32:00 - [15] Originally by: Tisanta rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. Now how is that for a bullsh*t post, try to fit the ship like that before you whine. Im willing to bet that your fantasy fit wont work out to well once you try it ingame. Or perhaps your Rokh has 10 midslots and MWD:s that go into low slots? Regards /Doxs After 9 months, why is my face just a '!' ?
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.01.05 01:56:00 - [16] Edited by: Goumindong on 05/01/2007 01:56:41 Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: Tisanta rohk= 8 electron II, 20km optimal, 1200mps movment, 25,000hp 80% passive sheild tank, enough dps to break any tank. is it just me or is this ship extremly overpowerd at solo all you need is a med slot passive tank low slots free for speed mods and damage mods.. I would love to see how you came up with a 20km optimal range... 4.8km base x 1.25 (sharpshooter) x 1.5 (ship bonus) x 1.25 (Null bonus) = 11.25km. Perhaps you could further enlighten us on the 80% resistances, passive shield tank bit i.e. mid-slot configuration?... You can do it with tech 1 ammo and multipule optimal enhancing rigs[20%, 20%, 15% = 1.2 x 1.174x1.08= 1.52 above your number and changing out to a 50% bonus ammo gets you another 1.2 for a total of 82% more range than you get there, or 20.5km]. But then you are doing less damage and have 3 rig slots filled. Definitly not worth it. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Winter Star Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.01.05 02:09:00 - [17] Tisanta, this may well seem rude, but you seem to hae been spouting a lot of unrelaiable info recently, i suugest you do some research before posting agian or get labelled an uninformed troll. At long ranges the rokh hits like my nan. not hard.
Blind Man Kemono.	Posted - 2007.01.05 02:11:00 - [18] 'enough dps to break any tank' i lol'ed
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.05 03:57:00 - [19] Edited by: j0sephine on 05/01/2007 03:58:27 "switch rokh speed and agility with maelstrom and everyone will be happy." * speed: Maelstrom: 115 m/sec, Rokh: 110 m/sec * mass: Maelstrom: 115 kton, Rokh: 120 kton * agility: mutliplier is identical for both of them, 0.155 ... why do you want to make Maelstrom even slower, heavier and more sluggish she already is, and give Caldari even more boost? O.o
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.01.05 07:00:00 - [20] Originally by: j0sephine Edited by: j0sephine on 05/01/2007 03:58:27 "switch rokh speed and agility with maelstrom and everyone will be happy." * speed: Maelstrom: 115 m/sec, Rokh: 110 m/sec * mass: Maelstrom: 115 kton, Rokh: 120 kton * agility: mutliplier is identical for both of them, 0.155 ... why do you want to make Maelstrom even slower, heavier and more sluggish she already is, and give Caldari even more boost? O.o It was a joke, right....
Virasza	Posted - 2007.01.05 11:50:00 - [21] I'd be more then willing to try and take that ship on, 1 on 1 in my astarte :) Damn, don't even think it would need to put up a scrambler, i wouldn't run anywhere :)
Grez Minmatar The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:12:00 - [22] Rohk doesn't have a damage bonus. I'd love to see you break 'any' tank with even 30km blasters (it's 11km). --- Cache Clearer
Tisanta Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom	Posted - 2007.01.05 15:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Grez Rohk doesn't have a damage bonus. I'd love to see you break 'any' tank with even 30km blasters (it's 11km). not really 11km i get about 15 on my megathron.. and 8 t2 null weilding electrons with 2 damage mods not enough to break almost anythings tank then.. i dont know what will --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.01.05 16:59:00 - [24] Originally by: Tisanta Originally by: Grez Rohk doesn't have a damage bonus. I'd love to see you break 'any' tank with even 30km blasters (it's 11km). not really 11km i get about 15 on my megathron.. and 8 t2 null weilding electrons with 2 damage mods not enough to break almost anythings tank then.. i dont know what will I can guarantee you there is absolutely no way to get close to a 15km optimal range with T2 electrons loaded with Null, either on a Megathron, or this Rohk of yours using its mids for shield tanking... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:08:00 - [25] Edited by: Goumindong on 05/01/2007 21:08:33 Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: Tisanta Originally by: Grez Rohk doesn't have a damage bonus. I'd love to see you break 'any' tank with even 30km blasters (it's 11km). not really 11km i get about 15 on my megathron.. and 8 t2 null weilding electrons with 2 damage mods not enough to break almost anythings tank then.. i dont know what will I can guarantee you there is absolutely no way to get close to a 15km optimal range with T2 electrons loaded with Null, either on a Megathron, or this Rohk of yours using its mids for shield tanking... It wont hit 15km, but it will hit 17.08km optimal, the rokh that is. Math is further up the page. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 05/01/2007 21:08:33 Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: Tisanta Originally by: Grez Rohk doesn't have a damage bonus. I'd love to see you break 'any' tank with even 30km blasters (it's 11km). not really 11km i get about 15 on my megathron.. and 8 t2 null weilding electrons with 2 damage mods not enough to break almost anythings tank then.. i dont know what will I can guarantee you there is absolutely no way to get close to a 15km optimal range with T2 electrons loaded with Null, either on a Megathron, or this Rohk of yours using its mids for shield tanking... It wont hit 15km, but it will hit 17.08km optimal, the rokh that is. Math is further up the page. ok fair enough, Rigs aside (especially two T2 rigs!), it ain't getting near that range... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:32:00 - [27] Edited by: Goumindong on 05/01/2007 21:32:21 Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: me It wont hit 15km, but it will hit 17.08km optimal, the rokh that is. Math is further up the page. ok fair enough, Rigs aside (especially two T2 rigs!), it ain't getting near that range... It can get close with tracking enhancers they are a 15% boost insead of a 20% boost.. 15.76km max range with 3 tracking enhancers or computers tech II ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Daedaelus	Posted - 2007.01.06 05:20:00 - [28] may somone be so kind enough to post the build for this godly pvp blaster build cause to be honest for 3 days i have been fitting this thing a solid build would be great.
Emolayshun	Posted - 2007.01.06 05:44:00 - [29] Bah its a Caldari ship. Being overpowered is normal ;)
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.06 06:03:00 - [30] In all honesty if people are going to load iron ammo and stack multiple rigs and/or modules on ship with no turret bonus just to prove "see you can shoot that far with blasters... zOMG, nerf!" then it's rather ridiculous. You know why? Because you will outdamage, outrange and out-track such neutron blaster Rokh with one that simply equips full rack of medium 250mm rails and loads them with antimatter. oh and you get to keep full grid to play with this way. But sure, 20 km blaster Rokh pwns, nerf it. :s
pr013ct 0v3rk1ll Caldari Short Attention Span	Posted - 2007.01.06 07:28:00 - [31] for everyone that is like ZOMG CALDARI ARE SO OVERPOWERED ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG IM GOING TO WHINE ON FORUMS NOW!! have you guys ever thought of training caldari so then u2 r getting "all the cookies in the jar"? Sig dimensions must be less than 400Wx120H and no more than 24000 bytes. Mail [email protected] with any questions - Cathath
Zeko Rena	Posted - 2007.01.06 08:44:00 - [32] Edited by: Zeko Rena on 06/01/2007 08:41:34 Good lord, im so sick of all the whiners about ships being overpowered, the amount of time some people spend *****ing could be used to try setups on there ships and find a way to take other ships like the rokh down. Every ship fitting has a weakness, you just have to fit for that weakness, or like was previous said, train caldari, never heard of the phrase "if you cant beat em, join em"?
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.01.06 09:09:00 - [33] Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 05/01/2007 21:32:21 Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: me It wont hit 15km, but it will hit 17.08km optimal, the rokh that is. Math is further up the page. ok fair enough, Rigs aside (especially two T2 rigs!), it ain't getting near that range... It can get close with tracking enhancers they are a 15% boost insead of a 20% boost.. 15.76km max range with 3 tracking enhancers or computers tech II Argh!!... Yes you couldà BUTà this æuberÆ, 'massive passive shield tank', 'breaks anythings tank' Rohk most likely has no low slots left. Since the OP seems to have run away, we'll never know what this setup us - other than the strong suspicion it exists only in his/her head P.S youÆve had me essentially arguing in favour of a piece of Caldari junk, I feel dirtyà ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Kuno Hida	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:27:00 - [34] I'm really curious to hear this too. I'm trying to do the math, and I'm seeing that every relevant skill has to be at 5, with really deep pockets for him to be right.
Shyalud Celestine Prophecy Divine Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:51:00 - [35] I've been messing with a blasterokh setup lately and I can get 31km optimals on nuetron blaster IIs using T1 tungsten ammo. That's with the 1 each collision, burst, and discharge rig. 2 tracking enhancer II and a tracking comp II. I can get hits in 150-300 at optimal range and can hit out as far as 50km irregularly. Using passive tank in addition to this setup, I can get resistances over 80% in all categories, and over 90$ for kinetic. Now, I've only used it versus npcs to date, but it chews them up pretty fast, and can hit frigs pretty well as well (comparatively speaking) I'm not sure I'd pvp with it, as it could easily be out ranged, but in a proper gang, it would make a welcome addition in the dps category. not arguing that it is either overpowered or under, but to be honest, I've not been terribly impressed with it's performance so far. I'm still tweaking the setup however. Oh, and just to explain those ranges, all my appropriate skills, including cal bs are at 5 that effect range. Just in case there are any "there's no way to get a 31km optimal from nuets" post on it's way. I promise you, I can. Quote: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:00:00 - [36] all i can say is that i always fancies shyaluds avatar
Shyalud Celestine Prophecy Divine Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:06:00 - [37] shyalud winks at slothe Quote:* The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:17:00 - [38] Originally by: Majutsu No way can a Rokh be passive tanked effectively and have any sort of tackling/webbing ability. Obviously not needed if you're sniping, but for a blaster setup. 3xccc rigs and an active setup is far better. No. I found out that you will be far more cap stable with 3x core defence capacity sa***uard. With a neutron II, ccc rigs, active setup you will cap out after 5minutes, with the 3x cdcs it will cap out after 8+ minutes. Nice hamster! - Mindstar Thanks! We wont touch this sig! - Cortes I lied - Cortes LIAR!
Xequecal	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:56:00 - [39] 8x Neutron Blaster Cannon II (Null) MWD II Warp Disruptor II Heavy Capacitor Booster II 2x Invuln Field II LSE II 3x MFS II TE II DC II ACR I 2x shield amount rig That should get you to 20km optimal, a lot of effective hitpoints. I really don't see how that's overpowered though, an Abaddon can be fit to do DPS at a better range with more HP.
Impolite Andevil The Shadow Knights Division of Eden	Posted - 2007.12.06 21:01:00 - [40] Tell ya what, Tisanta. You bring your uber solo rohk to meet me. I'll bring my Nighthawk. You go ahead and unleash your 8 electrons of tank-breaking power on me, and I'll go take a nap. Tell me when you run out of ammo. Futhermore, since you are so sure of your setup's pwnage tank, I'll go ahead and shoot back. Since your rigs are all hybrid optimal, your 25k HP passive tank's regen is going be utter crap and even my heavy missles will drop you. Here's the only setup I can find that actually comes close to your claimed numbers: lows: 3x Draclira PDUs (lol) 1x Overdrive 2 1x Tobias Tracking Enhancer (snicker) mids: 2x Estamel Invuln fields (lol! that still doesn't give you 80% em...) 3x LSE2 1x MWD2 (not quite 1200, but close) highs: 8x Electron 2s (still only have 18.2 km optimal) rigs: 2x t2 optimal rigs 1x t1 optimal rigs So this uber-pwn setup that costs more than most fitted motherships and can't tackle has the MASSIVE tank-crumbling DPS of.... 355. Furthermore, it will tank a whopping 293 DPS continuously! You sir, are an EVE master. I bow before you in awe....
Ulstan	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:03:00 - [41] Year old necro FTL.
Incantare Caldari Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:41:00 - [42] Ridiculous OP followed by sterile arguments. Nothing to see here apart from anti caldari bias. Yes, I know this is a necro.
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:43:00 - [43] Originally by: Ulstan Year old necro FTL. yea, found it funny when that guy called out a ship setup from a year ago :). ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
HarryManback Minmatar Conniving Opportunist	Posted - 2007.12.07 00:09:00 - [44] There are rokh's out there that dont fit 2 estamel's invulnerablilty fields??? Amarr Recon/Electronics Attack Ship/almost Black Ops pilot for auction
Marcuis Caldari M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.12.07 03:27:00 - [45] Oh please stop complaining about the Rohk, yeah the rokh gets small speed boost, but think about it now all caldri pilots like myself know that is not owerpowered...so stop complaining bout it...running 8 Neutrons while having the Mwd and web, your run out of Cap faster then you can say Uncle with its small drone bay doesnt help either.? This post is just as bad as newbie Raven pilots havin stink about the Torps adjustment..As someone said in this post earlier every ship has a strong point and weak point its your job as a player to work and find them...If you cant thats your own fault.? Example I think its funny people telling me that my HAM Cerb cant hit them at 170km with ROF 1.5 secs......
Atsuko Ratu Caldari Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.07 04:48:00 - [46] Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 07/12/2007 04:51:36 A bs without a point is useless. And don't use fake EFT situations that say "BUT HE HAZ A TACKLAR". Please define what "tackler" he has, because if hes got a massive tank and dps, the tackler will be primaried and killed before you do **** to the enemy, unless you're attacking some pve fit caracal. Also, post DPS in your fake setups, not just what guns he has (since you probably arn't fitting any dmg mods to fuel your passive tank that can't tackle after the condor is killed.) Edit: It's funny that people from a year ago do the same things they do today with the nerf-this-setup. To bad it raped the interdictors
RoadKill101 Gallente Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2007.12.07 08:00:00 - [47] so no evidence or research behind it, just a straight out call for balance? NO DEAL! ---------------------------------- llama's rule!
Xenny Lee Minmatar coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.07 08:13:00 - [48] Originally by: Majutsu No way can a Rokh be passive tanked effectively and have any sort of tackling/webbing ability. Obviously not needed if you're sniping, but for a blaster setup. 3xccc rigs and an active setup is far better. There's nothing wrong with the Rokh, it's perfectly balanced. If ya go for passive recharge, your right, but if ya go for massive amounts of effective Hp, its a pretty damn pimp ship. Can break a gank mega just on the passive amount of hitpoints, you won't end up with the recharge the drake has, but the drake melts once you have enough dps to break the recharge. Nor the dps of a mega, but it's a really nice albeit expensive mix.
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.12.07 08:54:00 - [49] Originally by: Impolite Andevil Here's the only setup I can find that actually comes close to your claimed numbers: lows: 3x Draclira PDUs (lol) 1x Overdrive 2 1x Tobias Tracking Enhancer (snicker) mids: 2x Estamel Invuln fields (lol! that still doesn't give you 80% em...) 3x LSE2 1x MWD2 (not quite 1200, but close) highs: 8x Electron 2s (still only have 18.2 km optimal) rigs: 2x t2 optimal rigs 1x t1 optimal rigs So this uber-pwn setup that costs more than most fitted motherships and can't tackle has the MASSIVE tank-crumbling DPS of.... 355. Furthermore, it will tank a whopping 293 DPS continuously! A good Rupture outdamages it, lol. Rifters!
Admiral Madbull	Posted - 2007.12.07 10:18:00 - [50] All posts starting with xxx is overpowerd should be banned!! its starting to get old, and damn boring attitude towards ships that has pwn you at one time. this kind of posts are getting tiresome to read about on forums
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:47:00 - [51] Isn't their a thread that sums up all Caldari pre- and misconceptions so the whiners can just link it? Awesome necro btw, good for laugh. --- This is a war declaration, issued from your alt corp. It is used to gank people in high sec.
Leon 026 Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:54:00 - [52] Originally by: pr013ct 0v3rk1ll for everyone that is like ZOMG CALDARI ARE SO OVERPOWERED ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG IM GOING TO WHINE ON FORUMS NOW!! have you guys ever thought of training caldari so then u2 r getting "all the cookies in the jar"? That would involve using the gray matter in your head. So no, I dont believe that is an option for many. ------- Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings
Ancy Denaries Caldari Isseras Manufacture	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:02:00 - [53] Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 07/12/2007 12:02:38 nvm
Naviset	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:02:00 - [54] The rokh is good, but its not really any better than the other tier 3s >.<
The Djego Minmatar FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP. Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:13:00 - [55] Edited by: The Djego on 07/12/2007 12:15:48 Originally by: Tisanta and 8 t2 null weilding electrons with 2 damage mods not enough to break almost anythings tank then.. i dont know what will A Mega with 7 T2 Neutrons and 3 Mag Stabs II. This Post is stupid all the way, a Neutron Mega with Null will have no Problems to Hit at 25km. And there is no Way to get 1200 DPS with Null. I have nearly every Damage Skill maxed on Blasters and Drones and get this short Range with Void, 7 Neurons and 5 Ogre II(ok a bit more ). Rohk isn¦t overpowered for shure. omg I fall for a Necro epic loose Nerf Tank, boost Gank! XD
Naviset	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:15:00 - [56] Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Tisanta and 8 t2 null weilding electrons with 2 damage mods not enough to break almost anythings tank then.. i dont know what will A Mega with 7 T2 Neutrons and 3 Mag Stabs II. This Post is stupid all the way, a Neutron Mega with Null will have no Problems to Hit at 25km. And there is no Way to get 1200 DPS with Null. I have nearly every Damage Skill maxed on Blasters and Drones and get this short Range with Void, 7 Neurons and 5 Ogre II(ok a bit more ). Rohk isn¦t overpowered for shure. Gank got raped by revelations. The introduction of rigs made everyone that tanks tank better and everyone that speedtanks faster. Damage has no place in this universe.
The Djego Minmatar FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP. Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:23:00 - [57] Originally by: Naviset Originally by: The Djego Originally by: Tisanta and 8 t2 null weilding electrons with 2 damage mods not enough to break almost anythings tank then.. i dont know what will A Mega with 7 T2 Neutrons and 3 Mag Stabs II. This Post is stupid all the way, a Neutron Mega with Null will have no Problems to Hit at 25km. And there is no Way to get 1200 DPS with Null. I have nearly every Damage Skill maxed on Blasters and Drones and get this short Range with Void, 7 Neurons and 5 Ogre II(ok a bit more ). Rohk isn¦t overpowered for shure. Gank got raped by revelations. The introduction of rigs made everyone that tanks tank better and everyone that speedtanks faster. Damage has no place in this universe. Sad but true. /me waits on a Damage Boost or Damage Rigs that will make sence to fit Nerf Tank, boost Gank! XD

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