Originally by: KIAEddZ

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I am hoping this is a joke.

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Originally by: WETRAIN

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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I am hoping this is a joke.

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i bet they are kids at puberty in rl

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Big claims probably get some flamage but we are fast becoming the new MOO manace in game. More pirate and merc outfits bored of sec status losses are joining us and paying for high sec and low sec alliance war decs

Pushing 500 members soon enough the model works the fun is advancing and we are closing in on 40 war decs.

Time will tell how successful we are but its been a fun ride

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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh

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In other news, MASTA KILLA is the new Jade Constantine.

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Originally by: Noveron

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Sounds like good propaganda..

Now suddenly we all respect you.

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Originally by: Usha Lamia

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Originally by: Noveron

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Sounds like good propaganda..

Now suddenly we all respect you.

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Killboard is the only propaganda we need


Privateers KB

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Originally by: Crucifier

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2864 kills, 736 losses.

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Originally by: Victor Ramirez

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using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.

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Originally by: Mang0o

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hmm 150m to wardec you guys... might be worth it

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Originally by: Harum Skarum

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The concept is great but ollobrains/miss overlord is probably the best example why corps that accept anyone are doomed from the start.

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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh

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In other news, MASTA KILLA is the new Jade Constantine.

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Originally by: Harum Skarum

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The concept is great but ollobrains/miss overlord is probably the best example why corps that accept anyone are doomed from the start.

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Actually, its just ollobrains that is the best example why certain people are forever doomed to stupidity from the moment of their birth. No amount of therapy, education, or electroshock treatement could ever hope to repair the damage that twenty years of huffing paint fumes has done to scramble what little intellectual capacity he had to start with.

Privateers claiming that they are worth anything above a herd of brain-retarded cattle lining up for the slaughter is laughable at best, but just pitiful mostly. When faced with anything more dangerous than an unarmed hauler, such as an angry cloud of sharp-looking oxygen atoms, Privateers run screaming like schoolgirls into the abyss of NPC stations where they play games of "the priest and the sausage" until it is safe to come out.

To compare yourselves to m0o really just smacks a giant sign on yourselves for everyone who didn't already know. You're idiots, you're pathetic, and for the greater sake of humanity you should all go play in the shiny white lights of highway traffic.

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Secondly advanced drone interfacing modules can only be fitted to titans.

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Originally by: Serenity Frye

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Originally by: Harum Skarum

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The concept is great but ollobrains/miss overlord is probably the best example why corps that accept anyone are doomed from the start.

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Actually, its just ollobrains that is the best example why certain people are forever doomed to stupidity from the moment of their birth. No amount of therapy, education, or electroshock treatement could ever hope to repair the damage that twenty years of huffing paint fumes has done to scramble what little intellectual capacity he had to start with.

Privateers claiming that they are worth anything above a herd of brain-retarded cattle lining up for the slaughter is laughable at best, but just pitiful mostly. When faced with anything more dangerous than an unarmed hauler, such as an angry cloud of sharp-looking oxygen atoms, Privateers run screaming like schoolgirls into the abyss of NPC stations where they play games of "the priest and the sausage" until it is safe to come out.

To compare yourselves to m0o really just smacks a giant sign on yourselves for everyone who didn't already know. You're idiots, you're pathetic, and for the greater sake of humanity you should all go play in the shiny white lights of highway traffic.

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Rofl all this hate make's me feel happy

Next ....

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Jade Constantine and you are n4bs tbh.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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We're the new m0o

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Originally by: ollobrains

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We're the new ..

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Originally by: ollobrains

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No, really.. we're the...

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Originally by: Powder

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haha are you even old enough to know who we were? when you have someone paying you to not kill them... in a region your not even in then come talk to the big boys... when you can sell someone a region maybe you can start to open your trap, till then, stfu and learn your place junior.

Proud ex-m0o

and yea wtf is sutty or stav

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Secondly advanced drone interfacing modules can only be fitted to titans.

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Originally by: Serenity Frye

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What was it you guy's actually did to be so well known ?

And no this isn't an attempt to flame, just a simple question ive heard off you just don't have a clue on what u actually did to be so known & respected!

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Big claims probably get some flamage but we are fast becoming the new MOO manace in game. More pirate and merc outfits bored of sec status losses are joining us and paying for high sec and low sec alliance war decs

Pushing 500 members soon enough the model works the fun is advancing and we are closing in on 40 war decs.

Time will tell how successful we are but its been a fun ride

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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I am hoping this is a joke.

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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter

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hahahahahahahhahaha
i dont want to insult some ok corp whos joined that allaince but u guys are ghey ...

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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Originally by: Taladorn

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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Ahhh so I see you all hired John McCreedy for internal motivation, was wondering where he would land.

Guys we really should let these little fellers alone, its not nice to pick on ppl who ride the short bus to special class.

You kids keep up the pew pew down there in the kiddy sandbox and dont take candy from real pirates you hear ?

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Big claims probably get some flamage but we are fast becoming the new MOO manace in game.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Feel free to share with us youre axe log in lame stories and losses and we still manage to kill them to

To the devs we ask again for u to fix this issue so that axe cannot continue to be lame in their PVP style it smacks of desperation as they are loosing a lot of ships in this war

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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Originally by: Tovarishch

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flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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Wow, congratulations, you killed a Drake? Surely you deserve a footnote in the annals of history for your legendary accomplishments.

You chase people and pod them? Congratulations, so does anyone else in an empire war, because oddly enough, THATS THE POINT. You fight fair and dirty? More like, you catfight three armed midgets like a paraplegic with autism.

When you can actually put up a fight against a respected PVP corp, you might be worth a damn. Until then, anyone with an intelligence capacity greater than a can of rotted worms will laugh at you for your incompetence, your pathetic smacktalk, and your wigger-kid in suburbia bravado.

You are worthless, and everyone knows it.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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Wow, congratulations, you killed a Drake? Surely you deserve a footnote in the annals of history for your legendary accomplishments.

You chase people and pod them? Congratulations, so does anyone else in an empire war, because oddly enough, THATS THE POINT. You fight fair and dirty? More like, you catfight three armed midgets like a paraplegic with autism.

When you can actually put up a fight against a respected PVP corp, you might be worth a damn. Until then, anyone with an intelligence capacity greater than a can of rotted worms will laugh at you for your incompetence, your pathetic smacktalk, and your wigger-kid in suburbia bravado.

You are worthless, and everyone knows it.

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Wait for it, waiiiiitttt for it.

Put up 40 war declarations. Fight and come out on top most of the time.

Then I will allow you to talk to me about PvP. Deal?

And my rebuttal was for the people that claim we don't fight real. We do fight, we are outgunned (hrm, tens of thousands of war targets to almost 500) or when we have a few frigates on a single drake and still take it down.

Now easy on the comments of those people with disabilities. That is generally unnecessary.

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Originally by: Tovarishch

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flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Wait for it, waiiiiitttt for it.

Put up 40 war declarations. Fight and come out on top most of the time.

Then I will allow you to talk to me about PvP. Deal?

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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And my rebuttal was for the people that claim we don't fight real. We do fight, we are outgunned (hrm, tens of thousands of war targets to almost 500) or when we have a few frigates on a single drake and still take it down.

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Originally by: Powder

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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jump into a m0o camp then you can clame you got testicular fortitude, I, and the rest of the old crew who probably wont speak up cause they cba, will keep laughing at you deep... deep inside.

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Edited by: Aurel Senia on 05/01/2007 06:45:09

Originally by: Leto Twin

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Wait for it, waiiiiitttt for it.

Put up 40 war declarations. Fight and come out on top most of the time.

Then I will allow you to talk to me about PvP. Deal?

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How about, you stop pretending that high-sec empire pvp makes you worthwhile? I guarantee, the first thing that would happen if you had wars declared on you by even 4 dedicated pvp corps/alliances, you'd all be running for the hills any time they came within five jumps of you.

Declaring empire wars on 0.0 alliances and industry-based empire alliances does not make you special, and it does not make you good at pvp. It is RIDICULOUSLY easy to hit alliance carebears in empire and then run for your lives when their defense shows up - as you do on a regular basis. I know this from first hand experience, as I've done it regularly on mercenary contracts and for fun, as many many others have as well. The difference is, you never ONCE see them parading around the fact they killed carebears and think they're so awesome because they can take on an alliance 10x bigger than them - because killing people who generally avoid pvp is no accomplishment.

Originally by: Leto Twin

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And my rebuttal was for the people that claim we don't fight real. We do fight, we are outgunned (hrm, tens of thousands of war targets to almost 500) or when we have a few frigates on a single drake and still take it down.

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Tens of thousands of war-targets mean precisely jack all when 90% of them live in 0.0 and you only pick the targets that are too inexperienced to fight back.

And again, do you want some sort of medal for killing a Drake with frigates? Nobody cares, because anyone with a brain can do it too. But apparently you haven't realized that, because you were born with a genetic deficiency in logic and higher reasoning.

When you can go into 0.0 and terrorize alliances on their home turf, shut down their actual isk flow by assaulting their mining operations and npc hunters - then you might be worth a damn. Until then, you'll just be like every other pathetic pirate corp that knows absolutely nothing of real pvp.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Empire wars take much more skill. It is not about SP in empire, it is about true skill and luck.

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Empire wars take much more skill. It is not about SP in empire, it is about true skill and luck.

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Just kill yourself. I'm sure it takes a huge specialization in navigation to find the dock button on stations when you find yourself outnumbered...




.... or when you think people perform login traps on you, lol

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Oh. I'll let BoB/AXE and the others we had decced at the same time that they aren't very good at PvP. Because you said so.

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Originally by: LUKEC

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And i tought cryvok & mcgreedy were deluded...

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Oh. I'll let BoB/AXE and the others we had decced at the same time that they aren't very good at PvP. Because you said so.

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Like I said, its exceedingly easy to declare war on 0.0 based alliances. The irony of the situation is that you just cry "LOGON TRAP" whenever they do come to empire to kill you.

Pathetic. You might as well stop now, you're only making yourself seem like more and more of a total assclown.

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Originally by: Eric carr

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HAHAHA and HAHAHAHA nad finally hahahahahahahahahahaha and HA!
Guess you never been chased by M0o or Mo0 cant remember how it ws spelled.
Sadly Turby retracted the war against us when they joined you or otherwise our little corp would create mayhem within your puny alliance. But as mang0o said, 150 mil is it maybe worth to chase you, but I guess you wont undock when some corps that wanna fight you . You maybe start to play with your alt who is cheawing rocks in jita and is usin this alliance to start to clear out comeptitions...

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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You respond to very select portions of what I say, I notice. Is it because on the whole I am right?

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Tell those who hire for empire contracts, those who fight empire wars, Star Fraction for one, that empire war is easy.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Also, leave IRL insults out of this, they roll off of my back. I work with the public all day, and come to EVE to relax. I am in a sense PR IRL, so I hear much worse. All of your combined insults are probably half of what I get from an unhappy client.

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Edited by: Aurel Senia on 05/01/2007 07:12:21
It doesn't matter at ALL if you're doing one, two, six, ten or fourty. You're still killing carebears, running from anyone with a plan, and thinking you're cool for it.

40 different wars only mean you have a more varied selection of carebears to choose from, congratulations. Your killboard (that loss mails arent required on) only further proves my point.

If you want to front me the money for 40, no, lets make it sixty, empire war decs on corps and alliances, I'd happily show you the way its done by people who know what they're doing.

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Originally by: Some Character

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Don't delude yourself. You're not m0o, no one's m0o. If m0o reformed it wouldn't be m0o anymore, the game has changed fundamentally enough and is large enough to where a corporation like m0o can't exist anymore. There's hundreds, even thousands, of people spread throughout this game that are just as good of pilots as m0o, but that era is passed. It's eve's old west: m0o was a damn good posse that could hold entire towns hostage, but if Billy the kid rode into a bank in manhattan to rob it he'd be dead before he hit the ground.

You're an excellent philosophy, but you're entire cohesion is wardecs, and you'd probably wardec yourselves if you could. You're turning empire into lowsec for solo gankers, but you are not a cohesive force on your own

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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One of the great things of our alliance is no one person fronts the cost for all of the decs. Someone wants a dec, they pay for it. Will I front it for you, no, because then you are going to try and do what we do but without the same mentality.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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This is alliance is also for people first starting PvP, it is not for one with tens of millions of SP. Therein lies another loveable thing about PRVTR.

yap yap yap

Take two 900K SP alts, gang them up and set them free. Gang up three of those alts and have them take down BCs. Sure, they can lose their punishers/rifters/kestrels/tristans, but they are having more fun than the bugger who loses a fully T2 fitted BS to those three.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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EDIT: Apologies, wanted to add ask UNA about our fighting with plans. We have had a few good fights, even in Jita, with their gangs.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Big claims probably get some flamage but we are fast becoming the new MOO manace in game. More pirate and merc outfits bored of sec status losses are joining us and paying for high sec and low sec alliance war decs

Pushing 500 members soon enough the model works the fun is advancing and we are closing in on 40 war decs.

Time will tell how successful we are but its been a fun ride

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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One of the great things of our alliance is no one person fronts the cost for all of the decs. Someone wants a dec, they pay for it. Will I front it for you, no, because then you are going to try and do what we do but without the same mentality.

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And, oddly enough, prove that you're not good at it?

Originally by: Leto Twin

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This is alliance is also for people first starting PvP, it is not for one with tens of millions of SP. Therein lies another loveable thing about PRVTR.

yap yap yap

Take two 900K SP alts, gang them up and set them free. Gang up three of those alts and have them take down BCs. Sure, they can lose their punishers/rifters/kestrels/tristans, but they are having more fun than the bugger who loses a fully T2 fitted BS to those three.

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Then you have pretty much admitted you are not m0o, never will be anything resembling m0o, and your use of their name is an utter disgrace to their reputation and good name. Thanks, end thread here.

Originally by: Leto Twin

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EDIT: Apologies, wanted to add ask UNA about our fighting with plans. We have had a few good fights, even in Jita, with their gangs.

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Ask UNA? Well, I would, except I don't really care. We utterly smashed the UnAssociated not once, but TWICE to the point of disbanding (the first time was before they had an IG alliance, the second when they tried to ally with Imperium).

Don't get me started on them.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Big claims probably get some flamage but we are fast becoming the new MOO manace in game. More pirate and merc outfits bored of sec status losses are joining us and paying for high sec and low sec alliance war decs

Pushing 500 members soon enough the model works the fun is advancing and we are closing in on 40 war decs.

Time will tell how successful we are but its been a fun ride

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Big claims probably get some flamage but we are fast becoming the new MOO manace in game. More pirate and merc outfits bored of sec status losses are joining us and paying for high sec and low sec alliance war decs

Pushing 500 members soon enough the model works the fun is advancing and we are closing in on 40 war decs.

Time will tell how successful we are but its been a fun ride

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Originally by: Tiuwaz

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for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons

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Originally by: Crimsonjade

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the day you come to low sec wherer we are ill pay for you to war dec us when your contracts over
and comparing your self to actual pvp'ers

wtb what ever your smoking

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Originally by: Naqq

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Lol, don't flatter yourself!

*makes mental note: Privateers, newbie*

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Originally by: Bob Clive

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All I see is yet another entity that died.

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Originally by: Santiago Cortes

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*Locked*

Begging is not allowed or appreciated on the forums.

Whining remains perfectly acceptable.

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Originally by: Trina Tron

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M0o forced gms to change basic game mechanics.

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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Originally by: Crimsonjade

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the day you come to low sec wherer we are ill pay for you to war dec us when your contracts over
and comparing your self to actual pvp'ers

wtb what ever your smoking

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Alright, I know I said I would leave things in peace, but this will not stand. Again hypocrisy. Actual PvPers huh. What does PvP mean? Say it to yourself. Alright. Now think about it. What does it entail. You are getting closer (well I hope, but if you are smart you should be). Alright, times up. PvP = Player vs Player. Adding "Actual" really adds nothing, as PvP is straightforwad.

We engage in fights... often. We take losses, we kill. When two ships fire at each other what is that? Think.... you can do it. Bingo, that is PvP. From a literay standpoint you are fundamentally wrong.

All too often I see you guys defending what PvP is, especially when someone say "taking on a industrial is not PvP." And then there is a whole myriad of comments that claim any two players engage in warfare it is PvP.

"Actual PvP," lord... educational systems are definantly not what they used to be. As it has been posted before, look at the killboards. Non-Combat ships take up only one... that's right, one spot on the top 10. What does that mean then... I think you should understand.

For all you that claim 0.0 is the true form of PvP, I laugh at you. Yes, large fleet wars are PvP, I won't deny that. However they are one form of PvP. I fail to understand how a gatecamp in 0.0 is different than a gatecamp in 0.7, especially when the same ships are involved (save for interdictors, which means you can't just set up a bubble and proclaim "OMG I TRAPZORD YOU, I AM THE GREEETEST." In high sec you have to be quick with the jamming.Does that mean high sec is the "true" form of PvP? I don't think so, as there really is no true form of PvP aside from it being Player vs Player. That is the ONLY fundamental truth one can assertaine.

Before you get all high and mighty, proclaiming I have never seen a 0.0 gatecamp, I have. I have died in one.

Oh and on a simalar note, quite a few of our members operate in 0.0 so don't proclaim we don't. I'm sorry we don't engage on 100 man fleet battles, but that is not what we are built around. If you need 100 ships to be great... well good for you. We operate on the individual, and the individual's skill. When we make a gang the individual is as important as ever, as more than one ship is on the line if somebody fails to do their part. In 100+ fleet battles the individual is obscure, yes they can do something, but if one dies there is still 99 other ships. So DO NOT, EVER, attempt to say we aren't "Actual PvP[ers]." We fight, we take losses, we acknowledge those losses, we even applaud the victor of our ships if the fight was well done, and on top of that we respect those that do fight well. Do not dismiss us because we don't adhere to your rules, that is the most ignorant mistake any one human can make.

Now, I believe, I am done. Though I shall be watching.

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Trina Tron

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M0o forced gms to change basic game mechanics.

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Haha well in that point we are m0o!!!

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Trina Tron

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M0o forced gms to change basic game mechanics.

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Haha well in that point we are m0o!!!

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Originally by: Santiago Cortes

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*Locked*

Begging is not allowed or appreciated on the forums.

Whining remains perfectly acceptable.

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Originally by: DiuxDium

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. On the note of the priv's, they've got a decent concept I suppose. No politics just pew pew in empire. Low risk, high reward.

Most of their members seem to be complete idiots. The forum drama is hilarious though.

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Originally by: Crimsonjade

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mother drop you on your head alot as a child?

my own opinion of your allaince is in the dealings ive had, ctrl-q, not post there losses. not much but both have lowered my respect and seeing all you do is defend them

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Originally by: Trina Tron

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Trina Tron

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M0o forced gms to change basic game mechanics.

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Haha well in that point we are m0o!!!

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You aren't m0o, but perhaps you are as legendary as m0o!

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Originally by: Naqq

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And your little alliance/corp will aswell with the attitude your mustering atm.

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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YOU CAN'T BEAT US.

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Originally by: Naqq

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PS. In the future, Privateers should consider giving the responsiblity for public relations to Phoenix instead of ollobrains. My few cents.

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Originally by: Crimsonjade

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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Originally by: Crimsonjade

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the day you come to low sec wherer we are ill pay for you to war dec us when your contracts over
and comparing your self to actual pvp'ers

wtb what ever your smoking

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Alright, I know I said I would leave things in peace, but this will not stand. Again hypocrisy. Actual PvPers huh. What does PvP mean? Say it to yourself. Alright. Now think about it. What does it entail. You are getting closer (well I hope, but if you are smart you should be). Alright, times up. PvP = Player vs Player. Adding "Actual" really adds nothing, as PvP is straightforwad.

We engage in fights... often. We take losses, we kill. When two ships fire at each other what is that? Think.... you can do it. Bingo, that is PvP. From a literay standpoint you are fundamentally wrong.

All too often I see you guys defending what PvP is, especially when someone say "taking on a industrial is not PvP." And then there is a whole myriad of comments that claim any two players engage in warfare it is PvP.

"Actual PvP," lord... educational systems are definantly not what they used to be. As it has been posted before, look at the killboards. Non-Combat ships take up only one... that's right, one spot on the top 10. What does that mean then... I think you should understand.

For all you that claim 0.0 is the true form of PvP, I laugh at you. Yes, large fleet wars are PvP, I won't deny that. However they are one form of PvP. I fail to understand how a gatecamp in 0.0 is different than a gatecamp in 0.7, especially when the same ships are involved (save for interdictors, which means you can't just set up a bubble and proclaim "OMG I TRAPZORD YOU, I AM THE GREEETEST." In high sec you have to be quick with the jamming.Does that mean high sec is the "true" form of PvP? I don't think so, as there really is no true form of PvP aside from it being Player vs Player. That is the ONLY fundamental truth one can assertaine.

Before you get all high and mighty, proclaiming I have never seen a 0.0 gatecamp, I have. I have died in one.

Oh and on a simalar note, quite a few of our members operate in 0.0 so don't proclaim we don't. I'm sorry we don't engage on 100 man fleet battles, but that is not what we are built around. If you need 100 ships to be great... well good for you. We operate on the individual, and the individual's skill. When we make a gang the individual is as important as ever, as more than one ship is on the line if somebody fails to do their part. In 100+ fleet battles the individual is obscure, yes they can do something, but if one dies there is still 99 other ships. So DO NOT, EVER, attempt to say we aren't "Actual PvP[ers]." We fight, we take losses, we acknowledge those losses, we even applaud the victor of our ships if the fight was well done, and on top of that we respect those that do fight well. Do not dismiss us because we don't adhere to your rules, that is the most ignorant mistake any one human can make.

Now, I believe, I am done. Though I shall be watching.

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mother drop you on your head alot as a child?

my own opinion of your allaince is in the dealings ive had, ctrl-q, not post there losses. not much but both have lowered my respect and seeing all you do is defend them

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Big claims probably get some flamage but we are fast becoming the new MOO manace in game. More pirate and merc outfits bored of sec status losses are joining us and paying for high sec and low sec alliance war decs

Pushing 500 members soon enough the model works the fun is advancing and we are closing in on 40 war decs.

Time will tell how successful we are but its been a fun ride

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Edited by: Leto Twin on 05/01/2007 07:20:55

Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Edited by: Aurel Senia on 05/01/2007 07:12:21
It doesn't matter at ALL if you're doing one, two, six, ten or fourty. You're still killing carebears, running from anyone with a plan, and thinking you're cool for it.

40 different wars only mean you have a more varied selection of carebears to choose from, congratulations. Your killboard (that loss mails arent required on) only further proves my point.

If you want to front me the money for 40, no, lets make it sixty, empire war decs on corps and alliances, I'd happily show you the way its done by people who know what they're doing.

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Our sole purpose is to look cool. You got it. = )!

One of the great things of our alliance is no one person fronts the cost for all of the decs. Someone wants a dec, they pay for it. Will I front it for you, no, because then you are going to try and do what we do but without the same mentality.

This is alliance is also for people first starting PvP, it is not for one with tens of millions of SP. Therein lies another loveable thing about PRVTR.

The only plans we run from is login traps. That is because it is much more cowardly than the running from such. We have had blobs and raised gangs to attack those blobs. We might not come out on top, but we have a lot of fun.

We do this for fun, not for space. We do this because we can.

Take two 900K SP alts, gang them up and set them free. Gang up three of those alts and have them take down BCs. Sure, they can lose their punishers/rifters/kestrels/tristans, but they are having more fun than the bugger who loses a fully T2 fitted BS to those three.

EDIT: Apologies, wanted to add ask UNA about our fighting with plans. We have had a few good fights, even in Jita, with their gangs.

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Originally by: Ghitza

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Edited by: Leto Twin on 05/01/2007 07:20:55

Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Edited by: Aurel Senia on 05/01/2007 07:12:21
It doesn't matter at ALL if you're doing one, two, six, ten or fourty. You're still killing carebears, running from anyone with a plan, and thinking you're cool for it.

40 different wars only mean you have a more varied selection of carebears to choose from, congratulations. Your killboard (that loss mails arent required on) only further proves my point.

If you want to front me the money for 40, no, lets make it sixty, empire war decs on corps and alliances, I'd happily show you the way its done by people who know what they're doing.

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Our sole purpose is to look cool. You got it. = )!

One of the great things of our alliance is no one person fronts the cost for all of the decs. Someone wants a dec, they pay for it. Will I front it for you, no, because then you are going to try and do what we do but without the same mentality.

This is alliance is also for people first starting PvP, it is not for one with tens of millions of SP. Therein lies another loveable thing about PRVTR.

The only plans we run from is login traps. That is because it is much more cowardly than the running from such. We have had blobs and raised gangs to attack those blobs. We might not come out on top, but we have a lot of fun.

We do this for fun, not for space. We do this because we can.

Take two 900K SP alts, gang them up and set them free. Gang up three of those alts and have them take down BCs. Sure, they can lose their punishers/rifters/kestrels/tristans, but they are having more fun than the bugger who loses a fully T2 fitted BS to those three.

EDIT: Apologies, wanted to add ask UNA about our fighting with plans. We have had a few good fights, even in Jita, with their gangs.

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This post shows how big noob you are and have NO knowlege to say anything about mOo. '

Your alliance/personal opinion just droped badly for such stupid words.

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Originally by: Mang0o

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hmm 150m to wardec you guys... might be worth it

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Originally by: dailyhazard

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Why, lets pay them 50m to war dec us, then we can make it mutual.

You guys are too annoying.

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Originally by: WETRAIN

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not when he was a child ... his mom is droping him atm...

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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Originally by: WETRAIN

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not when he was a child ... his mom is droping him atm...

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Case in point. Ignorance is easy when no one is there to set you straight. Keep acting like a child and I will continue to view you as one, as shall the rest of this inteligent members of this forum.

I live on my own, have a career. Do the same, or at least grow up. This childlike behavior is the bane of all forums, and people like you are the greatest perpitrators.

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Originally by: Desiderious

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I Would also like to comment that it may be their intent to do this and get this flaming. Think about it, what better way to get more wardecks and thus more targets? Not saying its a GOOD idea to do such a thing...but still its one explination I can think of.

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Originally by: Bob Clive

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We have no bases. No POS. No central location of operations. No starbases. No nothing.

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Originally by: Desiderious

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Edited by: Desiderious on 05/01/2007 08:55:50
I Would also like to comment that it may be their intent to do this and get this flaming. Think about it, what better way to get more wardecks and thus more targets? Not saying its a GOOD idea to do such a thing...but still its one explination I can think of.

On the other hand if this is really what you claim it is, just a big balled attempt to claim immortality...This is the wrong way to do it. Let other poeple say this about you. Then mayby you can start, but not now.

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Originally by: Aira Phlux

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Originally by: Bob Clive

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We have no bases. No POS. No central location of operations. No starbases. No nothing.

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Ahhhhh ... that would explain why in 2 weeks of your war dec I've not seen a single ship of your alliance - you don't actually have any, do you?

BTW have you guys war dec'd BoB yet? That is a genuine question too, but i'll bet the answer will be amusing either way.

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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@deathforge:
The login trap was legitimate and it happened once. Yes there are two threads, however they cover the same day, and it was a mistake for the second one to be posted. I acknowledge that, and it has given people plenty of flamebait. An error.

Yes there are people that have gone astray. However we have changed our recruitment policy. Hopefully this will allow more of the breed that we want. I don't agree with saying we are the new mOo. But what's said is said. All I can do now is my best to defend what I believe in. And if people choose to assult me for that in the most disrespectful and immature ways, well, I will let their actions speak for themeselves. Hopefully the community will view them as what they truely are... hopefully.

There is much work to be done with Privateers. As with anything it is slow. I echo what has been said before, time will tell.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Originally by: Aira Phlux

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Originally by: Bob Clive

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We have no bases. No POS. No central location of operations. No starbases. No nothing.

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Ahhhhh ... that would explain why in 2 weeks of your war dec I've not seen a single ship of your alliance - you don't actually have any, do you?

BTW have you guys war dec'd BoB yet? That is a genuine question too, but i'll bet the answer will be amusing either way.

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We already did.

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Originally by: TrippyX

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however.. you could say you're the new BoB... you're creating just as many threads about yourself as they are.. difference is.. their post at least made some sense... and they at least know how to fight..

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Originally by: deathforge

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Have you guys come up with any proof yet? Because I HAVE been logged in on (something about being a mean old pirate I think), and your collective descriptions of the evil exploiting just made me laugh. As if you had any basis for your claims in the first place, your obvious ignorance on the matter negates it.

But that's not really why I'm in this thread, take your whining about something that clearly didn't happen back to one of the other threads. This thread is to make fun of PRVTR for sucking, the others are for the PRVTR members that suck but can't see it.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Originally by: TrippyX

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however.. you could say you're the new BoB... you're creating just as many threads about yourself as they are.. difference is.. their post at least made some sense... and they at least know how to fight..

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People cried for less BoB-age, we give it to them.

(Not cried as in tears, but as in yelled).

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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To judge so is to be ignorant. The AXE incident is over. If they attempt it again, and if they do get caught you will see how right we truely were, and then what was all this flame for? I am no liar.

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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=454084&page=6#166

DANGER: FALLING IRONY

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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To judge so is to be ignorant. The AXE incident is over. If they attempt it again, and if they do get caught you will see how right we truely were, and then what was all this flame for? I am no liar.

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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=454084&page=6#166

DANGER: FALLING IRONY

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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To judge so is to be ignorant. The AXE incident is over. If they attempt it again, and if they do get caught you will see how right we truely were, and then what was all this flame for? I am no liar.

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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=454084&page=6#166

DANGER: FALLING IRONY

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Please point me to it? I see me saying the same things I have always said. And in response to something other people have said.

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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Edited by: Evenfall Phoenix on 05/01/2007 10:02:43

Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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To judge so is to be ignorant. The AXE incident is over. If they attempt it again, and if they do get caught you will see how right we truely were, and then what was all this flame for? I am no liar.

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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=454084&page=6#166

DANGER: FALLING IRONY

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Please point me to it? I see me saying the same things I have always said. And in response to something other people have said.

edit: Ah, I see what you are trying to get at. However, if you log out in space and log back in you reappear somwhere near that point. Try it. I think your one test, by a BIASED source, needs to be done on a wider scale by unbiased. For I can easily do the same thing and come up with the opposite of what you are saying. On top of that there have been other threads in these forums that have agreed with my opinion.

Care to find a neutral party? If it turns out you are correct, then I withdraw my accusation perhaps there are other reasons why what I saw hapened. I am man enough to conceed when an overwhelming evidence is put against me. However if these tests come out in my favor... well... hopefully the community might look differently at what has been said then.

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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Edited by: Evenfall Phoenix on 05/01/2007 10:02:43

Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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To judge so is to be ignorant. The AXE incident is over. If they attempt it again, and if they do get caught you will see how right we truely were, and then what was all this flame for? I am no liar.

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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=454084&page=6#166

DANGER: FALLING IRONY

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Please point me to it? I see me saying the same things I have always said. And in response to something other people have said.

edit: Ah, I see what you are trying to get at. However, if you log out in space and log back in you reappear somwhere near that point. Try it. I think your one test, by a BIASED source, needs to be done on a wider scale by unbiased. For I can easily do the same thing and come up with the opposite of what you are saying. On top of that there have been other threads in these forums that have agreed with my opinion.

Care to find a neutral party? If it turns out you are correct, then I withdraw my accusation perhaps there are other reasons why what I saw hapened. I am man enough to conceed when an overwhelming evidence is put against me. However if these tests come out in my favor... well... hopefully the community might look differently at what has been said then.

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Damn edits.

OK, I'll make you a deal. I am in game right now. Convo me. I'll get in a shuttle, you get in a shuttle, we'll meet an agreed location, ALONE, you fire up fraps, i log off at a gate, log back in, measure.

No funny business, no ganking, just two shuttles meeting and then going our seperate ways.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Originally by: Powder

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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jump into a m0o camp then you can clame you got testicular fortitude, I, and the rest of the old crew who probably wont speak up cause they cba, will keep laughing at you deep... deep inside.

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People know we're a threat. There are escorts and the like around. People have had to change their empire mentality.

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Originally by: Sivala local, a few minutes ago

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ollobrains > quit axe come join privateers
Ben Derindar > yeah, it's always been my aspiration to join the new moo :P
ollobrains > hehe pure propanganda a useful way to be flamed but has been good for recruitment

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Originally by: Sergio Ling

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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but I'm professional enough to keep my mouth shut about what I know.

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i can't imagine that's true

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Originally by: oodin

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1# you cant destroy privateers because they are allover the place

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Originally by: Sorted

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(lol - form both sides it seems)

some dude said:
When u make ccp change game mechanics when ure name is mentioned in a npc mission, hell whenever u all grow a brain cell to share then u can make clames about how good u are. untill then shush mmkay

I say: give them time. when we hit 2000 members and are running out of people to add to the war list - maybe eh?

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Originally by: Sorted

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some other dude:

Didn't you threaten my corp with a war dec a few days ago? Really, please make good on that one. I'm betting we kill more of your haulers than you do ours. Let's not even start on real ships.

I say: your a spanner - we dont haul. no1 even owns a hauler afaik - maybe a few commedy battle badgers but they dont count. So yes, your gonna loose that 1!

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Originally by: Sorted

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and the finial idiotic post before I gave up (about page3):
You want to talk REAL PvP'rs. Come to 0.0 in a roaming gang, Put your money where you mouth is.

Me says: many of our pilots are 0.0 vets, your also a spanner. They have joined for something different.

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Originally by: Sorted

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We have no offical PR machine, no rules about posting on the KB and each pilot is left up to their own devices and are allowed to express their own opions.

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Originally by: Sorted

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flame Ollos posts all you want

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Originally by: Tovarishch

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flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.

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Originally by: Sorted

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and the finial idiotic post before I gave up (about page3):
You want to talk REAL PvP'rs. Come to 0.0 in a roaming gang, Put your money where you mouth is.

Me says: many of our pilots are 0.0 vets, your also a spanner. They have joined for something different.

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Originally by: Extreme

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Hail Lord Zap !

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Originally by: Extreme

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Hail Lord Zap !

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Indeed. That brave and fearless PvP'er plays now WoW. Perhaps EVE turned too difficult for him and his bunch of mOo's?

Btw: I got SMS message from ex-mOo member saying that he will butt*****me because my silly alliance claimed to be mOo. I don't know which is more fun: Their ex-leader playing WoW or 2nd generation mOo member defending mOo (Plz Siddy don't hurt me!)

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Big claims probably get some flamage but we are fast becoming the new MOO manace in game. More pirate and merc outfits bored of sec status losses are joining us and paying for high sec and low sec alliance war decs

Pushing 500 members soon enough the model works the fun is advancing and we are closing in on 40 war decs.

Time will tell how successful we are but its been a fun ride

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Originally by: Gungankllr

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m0o earned their reputation.

You have not.

You might someday become the next m0o, but it won't be because you made a forum post saying you are.

It will happen because people are afraid of you.

I respect that you guys are wardeccing a ton of people, but the reality is that most of the actual PVP core of who you are wardeccing live in 0.0 space.

If you want to get some respect, then go after their fleets there.

Hanging out in empire and killing mission runners and haulers, and the occasional PVPer buying skills, doesn't make you m0o.

You know how I remember m0o? (I think it was Sassinak, not sure tbh)

I was in a nanofiber Badger II, in CFS back in early 2004.

I somehow managed to run their gatecamp, and I had a m0o pilot chase me over 29 jumps to try and kill me.

I got into empire, and sat on the gate.

The m0o pilot jumped in and killed me, and got concorded in the process.

I sent them an evemail asking wtf? and they told me that nobody gets away from m0o.

That's how I remember m0o.

You guys aren't even remotely in the same hemisphere.

Nothing against you personally, but to get respect you have to do something worthy of respect.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Privateers = lol

Hell, even ISS killed more of you than you did of them.

PS - post your losses

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Originally by: elbenito

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The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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My signature has been changed to show that i post my own personal opinions

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Originally by: Atreus Minmatarius

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visiting our killboard will reveal kills on more than just haulers and mission runing ships...we are doing good enough and there will be more of us

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Originally by: Futile Zombie

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I'm not going to say look at the killboard as everyone knows how inaccurate those things are.

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Originally by: Jonny Damordred

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Jade Constantine and you are n4bs tbh.

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Jade sends her regards, and a challenge for you to put your ship where your mouth is. A one-on-one BS duel, in Ostingele, with no restrictions or warp-outs. Are you up for it, or will you chicken out?

Cheers,
Jonny D.

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Originally by: Bob Clive

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Privateers = lol

Hell, even ISS killed more of you than you did of them.

PS - post your losses

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Your lips.

Our Butt.

They should meet.

Bye.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Sorry I never visit Jita, but if you ever grow the nads to move out of 1.0 space do let me know.

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Originally by: GENERALOLDTIMER

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Oh we had honor in the days. We only fitted one laser. They wernt know as laserz then - they were know as blunderthunders and they cost 100million isk each. Took a red slot - slots were color coded in them days - much better. We had to mine for weeks to afford one. We started ship to ship - went in oppostie directions for 20km. Turned on the spot then shot. Ahhhh the good old days

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Originally by: elbenito

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The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.

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Originally by: Aurel Senia

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Ollo has the testicular fortitude to post this stuff. I give him props.

Next, you guys laugh at us? Maybe on the forums, but in the game I get yelled at, apparently our gangs use HAX to kill drakes outnumbered. Our gangs jump into known gate camps and proceed to slaughter. We give chase, we kill pods. We fight dirty and fair the same time.

'We know your weakness, our rocket-sauce'.

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You chase people and pod them? Congratulations, so does anyone else in an empire war, because oddly enough, THATS THE POINT. You fight fair and dirty? More like, you catfight three armed midgets like a paraplegic with autism.
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