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NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.01.07 08:58:00 - [361] Originally by: Crozon Originally by: Murukan hmm so IAC threatens ISS and uber LV blob shows up to "save" the day. IAC gets some support and LV disapear. Backbone? Not sure what LV are up to (maybe busy with RA), but I know that Fix are now occupied by IRON. It does make me think this is a really well organised plan to keep ISS allies busy. TCF also keeping Maelstrom busy. IAC attack right after AAA finish off AXE and are free to assist. And if this was really planned out that well, I have to congratulate the guy who came up with it! You've played the game well! This is why I love Eve! C'mon now, only BoB is capable of pulling off that kind of tinfoil-worthy coordination. Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then? Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.01.07 09:29:00 - [362] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: Nez Perces McDan's post is ... lashing out at the D2/AAA/IAC/RAGoonsTCF bunch and calling them everything under the sun. Have you got anything to back that up? Not if you are going to mis-quote me
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.07 09:31:00 - [363] Originally by: FireFoxx80 Originally by: DB Preacher As G they got spanked by us, they failed at EC-P8R Didn't they get spanked by you, MC, ASCN, and FIX? Not just BoB. you forgot F-E and the five.
Vince Draken Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.07 10:14:00 - [364] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: FireFoxx80 Originally by: DB Preacher As G they got spanked by us, they failed at EC-P8R Didn't they get spanked by you, MC, ASCN, and FIX? Not just BoB. you forgot F-E and the five. dont forget the state war accademy and brutor tribe too ec was bob+atuk+ascn The pilots from 5 or fe were ones that were joining dice as it was created the same day the op was launched. Please know your history. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Karunel Princeps Corp	Posted - 2007.01.07 10:49:00 - [365] Originally by: Apocalypsee Originally by: liquidism WOW Congratulations you have killed 523 ships. Why is it so hard for you to grasp a simple concept. You have done nothing. The privateers have killed 523 ppl does that make them uberwtfpwn? But just for ur effort McDan is gonna give you a medal!! So again CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Quite funny that you fail to comment anything on the eff. ratio. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Marvel Master Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.07 12:10:00 - [366] Originally by: jernej Originally by: DeadDuck Why are you so bitter ... We were expecting you I you too. Dont babble in forums. Make a full war mode with your dreads and the other pvplers that you have. I hope i will you see soon (tm). Marvel
Alita Tiphares	Posted - 2007.01.07 12:35:00 - [367] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: Nez Perces McDan's post is ... lashing out at the D2/AAA/IAC/RAGoonsTCF bunch and calling them everything under the sun. Have you got anything to back that up? Not if you are going to mis-quote me Dude, give it up already. Even BoB has grown tired of your rampant fanboying of their alliance.
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.07 12:39:00 - [368] Originally by: Alita Tiphares Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: Nez Perces McDan's post is ... lashing out at the D2/AAA/IAC/RAGoonsTCF bunch and calling them everything under the sun. Have you got anything to back that up? Not if you are going to mis-quote me Dude, give it up already. Even BoB has grown tired of your rampant fanboying of their alliance. Fanboing* BoB Dictionary, Edition 5, Page 1. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
BugxEarl Amarr Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.07 12:58:00 - [369] Originally by: Apocalypsee Originally by: liquidism -stuff //cheers WOW Congratulations you have killed 523 ships. Why is it so hard for you to grasp a simple concept. You have done nothing. The privateers have killed 523 ppl does that make them uberwtfpwn? But just for ur effort McDan is gonna give you a medal!! So again CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Really now? Well, I believe you, kill ratio means nothing, since your alliance is struggling against RAGOON+TCF down there and kill ratio doesn't say a damn thing about how badly you're struggling:) D2+Friends kicked the goons out of the north. D2+Friends kicked TCF out the north. Tactical retreat, relocation, word it however people want: they are not there anymore. Where are they now? Right there in LV's face and they are still there. At the end of the day, D2 held its ground. We had friends on our side, and we haven't lost any of them. What were the 'accomplishment' by LV and friends? A successful loss of a friendly alliance, a region, and a bag full of bloated ego. So I guess its easier to return the same exact question over to you; what exactly have LV managed to accomplish? Cuz in my book, that writes off as "jackin' didly shaite".
KIATheClash Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.01.07 13:01:00 - [370] Originally by: Vince Draken Originally by: KIATheClash Originally by: Elve Sorrow Originally by: KIATheClash So when does LV goes to war with BoB ? I dont think you quite get the irony in your statement, so let me illustrate: Random D2/IRON/whatever pilots: "Haha RA pwn, Goon pwn, theyre the best, LV sucks." Awesome LV pilot (me): "D2, why dont you go fight a real enemy?" Random dude (you): "LV, why don't you attack BoB?" I hope you understand? Any more simpler terms and id be using kindergarten phrases. You should apply to BoB with responses like : " hope you understand? Any more simpler terms and id be using kindergarten phrases. " As for being a random dude .. oh lol . You should apply to a corporation and quit breaking the forum rules. Also should avoid selling your character on ebay as well. Its not sold on Ebay Made me giggle this comment tho seeing what alliance yer in ;) Mods this is currently my main .
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.07 13:54:00 - [371] Originally by: Crozon TCF also keeping Maelstrom busy. IAC attack right after AAA finish off AXE and are free to assist. And if this was really planned out that well, I have to congratulate the guy who came up with it! You've played the game well! This is why I love Eve! Actually AAA weren't finished with AXE when we set ISS to red, it unexpectedly concluded during the fight, and they were still pretty busy tearing POS down when they showed up to help us. TCF keeping Maelstrom busy accomplishes what exactly ? Maelstrom would never have come to ISS's help against us. http://eve.klaki.net/
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.07 14:05:00 - [372] Originally by: McDan Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: McDan Edited by: McDan on 06/01/2007 20:53:48 Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 06/01/2007 18:19:14 Originally by: McDan Originally by: Xendie Originally by: Elve Sorrow Originally by: KIATheClash So when does LV goes to war with BoB ? I dont think you quite get the irony in your statement, so let me illustrate: Random D2/IRON/whatever pilots: "Haha RA pwn, Goon pwn, theyre the best, LV sucks." Awesome LV pilot (me): "D2, why dont you go fight a real enemy?" Random dude (you): "LV, why don't you attack BoB?" I hope you understand? Any more simpler terms and id be using kindergarten phrases. thats funny :P so why didnt LV, ISS, MC, FIX shoot bob instead of IAC ? because ISS were the aggressors? Fixed. We were involved in the retaliation. Also, correcting me without stating a reason makes you look stupid. I didn't feel I needed to state a reason, it was fairly self explanitory. You answered your previous question, which i highlighted, with your own comment. I just made a clerical edit on your behalf. Nomatter the details, you took part in an IAC gangbang, and D2 are taking part in an ISS gangbang. Might I add, with less reason than D2 has. Don't be a hypocrite. I was not at any point being hypocritical, I simply answered a question. IAC were consistently involved in attacks upon allied territory and this was reason enough. Now D2 attacking a purely industrial alliance who do their utmost to keep a non aggressive stance with everybody is a completely different matter. In attacking ISS, D2 have aligned themselves with the likes of Goonswarm and TCF; these alliances were previously given a higher priority than BOB when they were asked why they did not join the fight on ASCNÆs side. Seems like a desperate manoeuvre to show that they still have a fighting force. If this is the case then it is pathetic. Not true, i think you'll recall the reason ISS were set -10 by D2 in the first place? Plus the fact D2 are Trust, and whether they got isk for the outpost after they took it over or not. The fact remains, ISS still 'had' a Trust outpost, and trust wanted it back. The south 'gang bang' was because ISS called in friends to attack IAC, IAC responded in kind. What reason did LV have? Appart from the fact ISS rent Tenerifs from them? As i said, the details arn't important, D2 had more reason than LV did and you answered your own question. Originally by: Nev Clavain If a war of such scale does go down the sheer forum activity will probably put the server down for good.
Lunamariea Hawke Gallente Combined industrial	Posted - 2007.01.07 14:40:00 - [373] Originally by: BugxEarl Originally by: Apocalypsee Originally by: liquidism -stuff //cheers D2+Friends kicked the goons out of the north. D2+Friends kicked TCF out the north. Tactical retreat, relocation, word it however people want: they are not there anymore. Where are they now? Right there in LV's face and they are still there. At the end of the day, D2 held its ground. We had friends on our side, and we haven't lost any of them. What were the 'accomplishment' by LV and friends? A successful loss of a friendly alliance, a region, and a bag full of bloated ego. So I guess its easier to return the same exact question over to you; what exactly have LV managed to accomplish? Cuz in my book, that writes off as "jackin' didly shaite". Hmm not all your friends who helped you kick the goons out would agree with you since you set them up and stabbed them in the back afterwards: Sparta and NFC.
Karunel Princeps Corp	Posted - 2007.01.07 15:01:00 - [374] uh? Sparta turned on the north, not the other way. Many, many Sparta pilots came forward openly speaking with disgust about the new policies of the alliance. About NFC, civil war and stuff IIRC? Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Lunamariea Hawke Gallente Combined industrial	Posted - 2007.01.07 15:29:00 - [375] sparta did not turn voluntarily as you say, none of the rank and file members wanted this, but while the boss was away some characters suddenly came to the top and made some strange decisions. If you know who they are , then you will know where they are now, in d2 :-) d2 set up sparta to get them out of the way
Maltroc Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.07 16:28:00 - [376] The right name is "Lunamaria Hawk" ...
Tarphon Caldari Realm of Majestic Empire	Posted - 2007.01.07 17:33:00 - [377] Originally by: Crozon but I know that Fix are now occupied by IRON. ItÆs their own fault, IRON went to visit a sick friend and Fix tried to take the soup. Understandable, I heard it was really good soup __________________________________ ISD broke my sig :(
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.07 18:26:00 - [378] Zomg i`m in a Ovaron-Bunny thread! <3 --------------------------------
Scarlet Pimpernel Clan Eshin	Posted - 2007.01.08 09:28:00 - [379] Edited by: Scarlet Pimpernel on 08/01/2007 09:28:24 Everything else aside what alot of people seem to be forgetting is that ISS were blue to D2 immediately before this (for those not keeping up the recent D2 standings change because of the southern ASCN intel issue got sorted out with only IRON not setting ISS back to blue) Unless ISS did something to nark D2 off (and so far D2 hasnt said this so we have to assume they haven't) this isn't a particularly smart PR move by D2 (although tactically sound with ISS being occupied down south) because rather than cheering on D2 and joining the bandwagon against ISS, all people blue to D2 should be asking themselves "How do I know that D2 won't turn on me next?" I never thought I'd say this but at least BOB are consistent, this is a pretty two-faced move by D2 As for the other points, _if_ BOB decided to confront D2 in EC-P8R it would have nothing to do with aiding ISS and _everything_ to do with keeping EC-P8R out of the hands of D2 (if you recall the reason it ended up with ISS is because BOB didnt want it but wouldn't let TRUST [D2] have it back) If D2 go south (and if they don't this whole op is pretty cowardly though tactically sound) and BOB attack them it will probably have more to do with BOB's 'plan' to attack D2 (and the peen waving in this thread probably hasn't helped matters) than going to save ISS But people do love their conspiracy theories...... /edit for typos
k1Lz Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.08 10:11:00 - [380] Why do I see allot of D2, LV, BOB posting but so few ISS ????? DELTA is recruiting
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.08 10:37:00 - [381] Originally by: DB Preacher Nez, I can only hope that you are playing devil's advocate and not really that silly to miss the whole point of this conversation although I fear it's the latter since you and Eddz first brought BoB up in this conversation. Let me make it clear. ISS have nothing to do with BoB at all. If they lost every station in the game it would have no more an effect on our alliance than if CDC lost all their stations (I don't even know if they have any tbh). The only response here is mine, and it's personal, and it's pretty simple.... Look beyond the tags and think historically about what D2 have done. Then consider putting them on a pedestal and whether they are worth it or not. dbp No one needs the Devils advocate when ur around pumping out ur propaganda lies. But then again ur in RKK so ur partly forgiven. "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
Csonttoro Runave Serenity and Unicum Hungarian Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:01:00 - [382] Originally by: k1Lz Why do I see allot of D2, LV, BOB posting but so few ISS ????? because of the ISS Charter Quote: No individual pilots (including CEO's and Directors) have any authority or permission to speak on behalf of the ISS or represent the ISS in public forums or in politically charged threads on the Eve-Online forums or other form of diplomacy.
jernej Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:03:00 - [383] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Not true, i think you'll recall the reason ISS were set -10 by D2 in the first place? Plus the fact D2 are Trust, and whether they got isk for the outpost after they took it over or not. The fact remains, ISS still 'had' a Trust outpost, and trust wanted it back. If they sold the outpost then It's not a Trust outpost, is it ? You can't have the cake and eat it, or is it special T2 cake. -- Plz sign my thread
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:27:00 - [384] Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:25:17 Originally by: Plan Neun No one needs the Devils advocate when ur around pumping out ur propaganda lies. But then again ur in RKK so ur partly forgiven. Where is the propoganda lies? I asked the readers to name one instance of something that D2 had done that none of the other big alliances had done. Something that has shaped eve, something that has given the rest of eve reason to believe they are something other than their reality. I've showed you the reality of D2, whether you believe it or not is up to you. If at the very least, I have made you look at the facts then it will be worth it... these are not facts I am portraying but ones you have to look at for yourself. Look into an alliance that is supposedly a danger to BoB and therefore one of the big five.. well four now I guess with ASCN being dissolved. Just ask yourself this. With everything you have seen of D2 and with all the background knowledge on the corps involved, do you honestly believe that D2 deserve their place in the big four power blocks in eve and if so, do you honestly believe that they could actually affect or have any effect on us as an alliance? And finally leading on from that, if we move on them, do you honestly believe they will withstand that? dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Saka Mizuno The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:31:00 - [385] We don't post because we're not allowed to =\.
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:41:00 - [386] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:25:17 Originally by: Plan Neun No one needs the Devils advocate when ur around pumping out ur propaganda lies. But then again ur in RKK so ur partly forgiven. Where is the propoganda lies? I asked the readers to name one instance of something that D2 had done that none of the other big alliances had done. Something that has shaped eve, something that has given the rest of eve reason to believe they are something other than their reality. I've showed you the reality of D2, whether you believe it or not is up to you. If at the very least, I have made you look at the facts then it will be worth it... these are not facts I am portraying but ones you have to look at for yourself. Look into an alliance that is supposedly a danger to BoB and therefore one of the big five.. well four now I guess with ASCN being dissolved. Just ask yourself this. With everything you have seen of D2 and with all the background knowledge on the corps involved, do you honestly believe that D2 deserve their place in the big four power blocks in eve and if so, do you honestly believe that they could actually affect or have any effect on us as an alliance? And finally leading on from that, if we move on them, do you honestly believe they will withstand that? dbp You may twist everything to ur own end of perceptions priestess, it does mean that it is more truth in ur statements. And debating "what if statements" is utterly meaningless. Cheers. "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:46:00 - [387] Originally by: Csonttoro Runave Originally by: k1Lz Why do I see allot of D2, LV, BOB posting but so few ISS ????? because of the ISS Charter Quote: No individual pilots (including CEO's and Directors) have any authority or permission to speak on behalf of the ISS or represent the ISS in public forums or in politically charged threads on the Eve-Online forums or other form of diplomacy. Is that before or after ButterDog? What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:50:00 - [388] Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:47:59 Originally by: Plan Neun You may twist everything to ur own end of perceptions priestess, it does mean that it is more truth in ur statements. And debating "what if statements" is utterly meaningless. Cheers. What? I'm not twisting anything. If your perception of my posts is one that you can't even take off your bob-hate glasses for two seconds to read beyond that and use your own brain and look at D2 for yourself then don't call me a propoganda liar. There was not one thing I lied about above, I merely remonstrated a desire for the rest of eve to look at D2 historically and structurally as an alliance. There was no WHAT IF???? question in my post above. There was simply a "look at D2 yourself" statement and decide on your own opinion, without any input from me. If you don't wish to do that then fine, you are a simply victim of the propoganda yourself... closed to the reality of eve that anything I say is automatically incorrect because of the alliance I fly with. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:54:00 - [389] Originally by: Scarlet Pimpernel "How do I know that D2 won't turn on me next?" Quite easy, you just have to play fair and dont try to take advantage.
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.08 11:57:00 - [390] Edited by: Plan Neun on 08/01/2007 11:56:04 Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:47:59 Originally by: Plan Neun You may twist everything to ur own end of perceptions priestess, it does mean that it is more truth in ur statements. And debating "what if statements" is utterly meaningless. Cheers. What? I'm not twisting anything. If your perception of my posts is one that you can't even take off your bob-hate glasses for two seconds to read beyond that and use your own brain and look at D2 for yourself then don't call me a propoganda liar. There was not one thing I lied about above, I merely remonstrated a desire for the rest of eve to look at D2 historically and structurally as an alliance. There was no WHAT IF???? question in my post above. There was simply a "look at D2 yourself" statement and decide on your own opinion, without any input from me. If you don't wish to do that then fine, you are a simply victim of the propoganda yourself... closed to the reality of eve that anything I say is automatically incorrect because of the alliance I fly with. dbp Ofcourse ur not twisting everything coz ur so very neutral in this matter, right! But I can go and talk to wall and spray it with BoB, everyone who has particapted since 2003/2004 knows ur twisting history and lying. And yes it is correct Ganja Unlimited dont like BoB it is because of our historic past with RKK, hate is a way too much strong word, but then again accuracy is not the priestess dbp strongest part. Cheers. Signing off tis debate. Ceo Plan N "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"

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