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rodgerd
ClanKillers
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:19:00 -
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 Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
Originally by: rodgerd
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
so d2 want Borealis? or is it EC- your after?
Perhaps you should pick on someone your own size. This appears cowardly in my eyes. bawk
Who ran away from who's capital fleet again, to the fury of the client, again?
woh there, 3 angry d2 flame posts in a row! I feel so loved and especial!
You need to recalibrate your meter. Your post was (probably unintentionally) funny, not rage-inducing.
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken
let me answer all 3:
3)Um...your a week and a half out of date.
But you did run away a week and a half ago, right? Leaving the client unhappy, which, according to your Alliance head, is the measure of failure for MC. So perhaps you shouldn't be throwing around the coward tag too quickly. It makes you look silly.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:29:00 -
[242]
Originally by: Maud Dib
gl ISS
Hope ISS survives. Its been one of a few unique things in a game where everybody copies each other and then acts like they reinvented the wheel.
Truthfully though I doubt they will survive in their current capacity.
All alliances fall in the end. There must be players who have been in ten or more failed alliances by now.
Losing revenue in any area isn't a good thing but lethally injurious? No, I don't think so. I daresay that the ISS portfolio is going to take a certain amount of punishment, but there's more than one investment project.
On a more serious note, I notice that there would seem to be an ongoing interest in shooting ISS. Now, that's understandable, to paraphrase a certain pirate of my acquantance "You drop good loot". However I can't help but feel that stacking the declarations of war is just remarkably inefficient.
To this end, I shall be drawing up a 'shooting ISS' calendar. Get in touch, and I will pencil you in on your 'slot', and that way you get maximum amount of yield from your target rich environment. I mean, it's clearly a beneficial arrangement to kill just enough that they're always T2 or faction fitted.
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0o0Preatorian0o0
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:33:00 -
[243]
You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me....
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Morgaaan
Gallente
Silver Snake Enterprise
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:43:00 -
[244]
Edited by: Morgaaan on 05/01/2007 18:44:13
I'm not shure why,but this clip made me think of eve politics :D
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2007/01/spider-on-drugs.htmlLinkage
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Haros
Redemption Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.05 18:44:00 -
[245]
Edited by: Haros on 05/01/2007 18:45:52
Good luck D2 I think ur the BEST most uber alliance (just to agrivate dbp)
On the point even if ISS is not connected with BOB they are with LV.
Even if thats not the reason, maybe D2 want some pvp practice even if it involves 100 ppl snipper fleet at 150km shooting a station already camped by IAC n co or an abandoned station in the north.
Maybe the want revenge.
Maybe they dont like ISS, which would be suprising since they are such nice ppl spamming POS n forgeting any arrangments with u, not to mention completely neutral 
Maybe its because D2 is a carebear industrial alliance and ISS was giving the competition on that field.
Maybe the paid Nez to make the post, to **** off BOB.
Maybe they have info that the contact lens IRON is looking for in FIX space is actually on auction in an ISS station (and they want to claim it for them selves - backstabers)
No matter the reason, they did it and made an announcent using a cute dog on the banner as well. Bad move imo. Only BOB is allowed to do that. I am ashamed the whole community isnt flaming them.
/me petitions to change the rules on announcement threads.
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Serenity Steele
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:04:00 -
[246]
A few facts need correcting in this thread:
- The EC-P8R was conquered by BoB. G/Trust and BoB asked ISS to manage the IPO and station on their collective behalf.
- D2 were paid 20bn isk in cash as payment for the outpost by shareholders.
- All outposts are managed by the ISS on behalf of diverse groups of shareholders in the game. These players who have shareholdings in the Outpost corporations have as much to lose (ISK) as II when the stations are attacked (POS).
The only other points relevant to mention here are:
- The current IPO's profitability is not reliant on ISS outpost corporations, although losing them will require a slight change of location in placement of the 50bn ISK shopping baskets.
- That said, ISS takes management of Shareholder investments seriously, and as such, do not treat the potential loss of the outposts as a light matter.
New ISS IPO
Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:11:00 -
[247]
lol @ D2
Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
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Darko1107
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:14:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
lol @ D2
Lol at you ya lil troll! 
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V0rador
Amarr
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:15:00 -
[249]
I just want to be in before the lock :P
Good luck to both side.
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Reeperman
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:18:00 -
[250]
As a neutral the way I see it is this:-
D2 are a big alliance that shouldnt be picking on a small alliance. So what is Lotka Volterra? D2 have as much right as LV to impose their will on either IAC or ISS.
D2(G) used to own EC-P8R and have legitimate greivences for that (despite the 20bn offer).
So I can't see why this has turned to a BOB thread, although most do eventually anyway.
Just my thoughts, but just keep it clean, if BOB want to help ISS, fair enough, less smack, more pew pew.
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Phoenix Pryde
Caldari
Infinite Improbability Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:24:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Serenity Steele
A few facts need correcting in this thread:
- The EC-P8R was conquered by BoB. G/Trust and BoB asked ISS to manage the IPO and station on their collective behalf.
- D2 were paid 20bn isk in cash as payment for the outpost by shareholders.
To correct a few facts:
- The EC-P8R was conquered by BoB. Without even contacting TRUST you (ISS) agreed to take it over and stepped in a can of worms. After BoB was gone TRUST retook it. TRUST opened negotiotiations with ISS. ISS agreed to pay 20b ISK for the Outpost. Ownership was handed to ISS.
- After several months and ISS trying to slightly alter that initial agreement with TRUST (as entity it didnt exists anymore, but its 3 financial shareholders did) ISS finally were able to pay back these 20b to the former owners of Viribus Unitis.
So to clarify. Neither G nor D2 as an entity were ever involved in the direct ownership of Viribus Unitis. You only ever dealt with the 3 corps that once made up the TRUST iga and financed the OP. We never ever dealt with a single shareholder, nor ever had a single share in your IPO layout. All we did was a straight ISK deal, OP for ISK.
And finally, that was a simple business transaction between former TRUST IGA and ISS. Essentially it doesnt belong in this thread nor do i believe it has anything to do with the war. The deal took some time, however finally was concluded to both parties satisfaction. Business is business, this is politics ... mixing them does no good.
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:24:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Darko1107
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
lol @ D2
Lol at you ya lil troll!
I'm merely expressing the opinion of most innocent bystanders. You wanna be called a big boy, you gotta play with the big boys. D2 are unwilling to even try. Like it or not, that's how you look to the (non-NAPed) people in EVE. Although i suppose that actually narrows it down quite a bit.
P.S. Want a new sig Dorko? 
Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
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Chrony
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:26:00 -
[253]
Originally by: OozoO
Remember: we are the good guys! 
Oh really? Why dont do enlighten me then? Which abominable deeds have ISS done that they deserve the attention of the good guys?
Im honestly interested in your answer since D2 has allways tried to claim that they are the knights in shining armor of EVE.
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Smoking Mirror
Secret Interests Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.05 19:38:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Phoenix Pryde
Originally by: Serenity Steele
A few facts need correcting in this thread:
- The EC-P8R was conquered by BoB. G/Trust and BoB asked ISS to manage the IPO and station on their collective behalf.
- D2 were paid 20bn isk in cash as payment for the outpost by shareholders.
To correct a few facts:
- The EC-P8R was conquered by BoB. Without even contacting TRUST you (ISS) agreed to take it over and stepped in a can of worms. After BoB was gone TRUST retook it. TRUST opened negotiotiations with ISS. ISS agreed to pay 20b ISK for the Outpost. Ownership was handed to ISS.
- After several months and ISS trying to slightly alter that initial agreement with TRUST (as entity it didnt exists anymore, but its 3 financial shareholders did) ISS finally were able to pay back these 20b to the former owners of Viribus Unitis.
So to clarify. Neither G nor D2 as an entity were ever involved in the direct ownership of Viribus Unitis. You only ever dealt with the 3 corps that once made up the TRUST iga and financed the OP. We never ever dealt with a single shareholder, nor ever had a single share in your IPO layout. All we did was a straight ISK deal, OP for ISK.
And finally, that was a simple business transaction between former TRUST IGA and ISS. Essentially it doesnt belong in this thread nor do i believe it has anything to do with the war. The deal took some time, however finally was concluded to both parties satisfaction. Business is business, this is politics ... mixing them does no good.
So D2 took the money, agreed to the arrangement, and now is attacking ISS.
Good guys r00l!11!
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Yodaron Ballsithor
Gallente
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:02:00 -
[255]
Although I am currently inactive in-game, I am likewise surprised that an alliance the size and supposed stature of D2 would pick on one of the weakest pvp entities in the Eve cluster.
I think Nez was "spot on" with his observation about testing to see who responds. The opposite side of the coin, though, is when a response is forthcoming (I would hope there would be one anyway), it will clear the air regarding who D2 has gone to bed with.
Let's see, shall we take a guess? Why not. AAA, RAGOON, IAC, et. al.
Given that AAA has just acquired some new space at the expense of Axiom Empire, all the while ferrying some freighters to BOB space under the protection of D2 and Iron, it would seem that any serious attack by D2 on ISS will focus around the Catch region in order to allow D2 and Iron to have a staging point from which to assist AAA in attacking BOB.
Tying D2's actions together with Iron now actively (for the last couple of weeks) engaging FIX, it would appear that Iron are testing the Q waters and keeping FIX busy while D2 attempts to establish a foothold in the Catch region. Keeping FIX busy decreases it's likelihood of assisting ISS as it recently did in Prohibition II.
What I find truely funny about this is that when D2 visited FIX several months back they were notified that if it continued FIX would head north and deal with the problem. D2 promptly withdrew. Unless something has changed in those few months, I would think that D2 needs to seriously consider withdrawing again. But, of course, this will not happen as it appears D2 only "grows a pair" when it can obtain the combined strength of several other alliances to assist it in it's goals.
Honestly, and all bravado aside, if D2 want a fight they need to choose a worthwhile enemy and test their metal "mano e mano". This, in a nutshell, is the problem. D2 fears, as DBP has pointed out, that the loss of a good chunck of it's experienced pvpers will heighten the possibility of an early demise for the alliance. Given this, testing against a very weak pvp target allows the pvpers of D2 to build confidence for the real task ahead.
Although I cannot be bothered to read every post in this thread, I have read enough to know that D2 and friends seem to be spending their time trolling MC and BOB because they do not like to face the truth of what their "grand" alliance has become. I wonder what they will say when the wardecs start coming and those they have castigated start farming their industrial machine.
In the end, if what I am postulating proves out to be true, I think D2 will find their plans and goals will ultimately fail in achievement when BOB comes to their very doorstep to end their little carebear "nap" heaven in the North.
Random thought here: I am wondering how D2 can stomach associating with RAGOON given the actions D2 took against the Goons?
Random thought number 2: Did not everyone think that Black Lance leaving for AAA was a prelude to what is coming in the next few months anyway? Remember, D2 and AAA have been napped to each other for a good bit now.
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:19:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Murukan
Turkantho is an evil man for exposing us poor souls the the addictive power that is known as winterbells
I'm sorry, btw I'm still stuck @75k points /me is a noob
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:21:00 -
[257]
Whats with all the drama? Two reasons for D2 taking those outposts.
1) Trust wants EC back.
2) D2 will defend them better than ISS will if/when BoB come up north.
Nothing more to it than that. All this self involved 'Oh it's an easy target, oh why don't they attack BoB now.. blahblahblah' get a grip.
Originally by: Victor Ramirez
using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
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Claire Lacombe
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:40:00 -
[258]
I never thought anyone could make me root for D2.
Thanks for the fun read, dbp, but seriously: seek some therapy.
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:52:00 -
[259]
Originally by: TZeer
Originally by: JA RULER
something
Love your sig
that sig was created by PulloverJohnny, former ASW / STV / XT member he has quit EVE
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Nadar
Minmatar
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:00:00 -
[260]
Have fun D2
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:02:00 -
[261]
Originally by: DB Preacher
As G they got spanked by us, they failed at EC-P8R
Didn't they get spanked by you, MC, ASCN, and FIX? Not just BoB. 
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GO MaZ
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:03:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Turkantho
I'm sorry, btw I'm still stuck @75k points /me is a noob
I got to 670k and then failed, couldnt see the screen 
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JA RULER
Caldari
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:11:00 -
[263]
Nope i got it from a fellow fixian (Le Soltueur)
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:13:00 -
[264]
well he must have added the FIX parts of it ;)
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JA RULER
Caldari
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:23:00 -
[265]
lol which are the FIX parts?
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:24:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Orree on 05/01/2007 21:24:51
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Hi, I don't really play this game anymore and I can't be arsed to read everything and fully educate myself before I open my mouth, but BoB and FIX rock and D2 (and friends) don't. kthxbye
There ya go. Fixed it for ya. Save yourself some time typing, next time.
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Arrgs
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:29:00 -
[267]
Buying ISS shares 1 isk per 100! convo me!
My first video!
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Lunamariea Hawke
Gallente
Combined industrial
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:30:00 -
[268]
Hmm, more back stabbing and cowardice from d2? it would be nice to see d2 without their pvp friends (razor and iron) fight bob alliance to alliance. lets have a proper fight not a wardec on an alliance already tied up elsewhere, battering ISS will hardly either win many friends or bring battle honours.
its the fight that the whole game would love to see d2 vs bob. But somehow i dont think they are up to that.
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Malookai
Caldari
Momentum.
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:31:00 -
[269]
sold to the man in the black hat
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Player One
Minmatar
Die wilde 13
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:32:00 -
[270]
3 POS in reinforced Mode, ISS is unanchoring POS Modules in P-2TTL now 0o
free Outpost for D2?
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