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DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:03:00 - [391] Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:59:18 Originally by: Plan Neun Ofcourse ur not twisting everything coz ur so very neutral in this matter, right! But I can go and talk to wall and spray it with BoB, everyone who has particapted since 2003/2004 knows ur twisting history and lying. Amusing. You are so deluded in your hatred for us and for BoB that you can't look at D2 by yourself and decide for yourself whether or not they are what they say they are. Congrats, you now have no ability to think for yourself. I can just hope the rest of eve hasn't gone through that reverse evolution. :/ dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:06:00 - [392] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:59:18 Originally by: Plan Neun Ofcourse ur not twisting everything coz ur so very neutral in this matter, right! But I can go and talk to wall and spray it with BoB, everyone who has particapted since 2003/2004 knows ur twisting history and lying. Amusing. You are so deluded in your hatred for us and for BoB that you can't look at D2 by yourself and decide for yourself whether or not they are what they say they are. Congrats, you now have no ability to think for yourself. I can just hope the rest of eve hasn't gone through that reverse evolution. :/ dbp One last comment too this amusing priestess. You will not succed much with this pity flamebait, accuse us of hatred when its not, pathetic. "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:07:00 - [393] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:59:18 Originally by: Plan Neun Ofcourse ur not twisting everything coz ur so very neutral in this matter, right! But I can go and talk to wall and spray it with BoB, everyone who has particapted since 2003/2004 knows ur twisting history and lying. Amusing. You are so deluded in your hatred for us and for BoB that you can't look at D2 by yourself and decide for yourself whether or not they are what they say they are. Congrats, you now have no ability to think for yourself. I can just hope the rest of eve hasn't gone through that reverse evolution. :/ dbp There's a very simple way to end this argument. If you and BoB don't think D2 are worthy of the perception they're one of the top four alliances, prove it with something other than forum posts.
Mr Detritus Dibbler Enterprises	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:23:00 - [394] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: Scarlet Pimpernel "How do I know that D2 won't turn on me next?" Quite easy, you just have to play fair and dont try to take advantage. OMG! They didn't buy all of your shuttles too?
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:24:00 - [395] Edited by: Victor Vision on 08/01/2007 12:28:54 Edited by: Victor Vision on 08/01/2007 12:27:36 Edited by: Victor Vision on 08/01/2007 12:26:48 Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/01/2007 11:25:17 Originally by: Plan Neun No one needs the Devils advocate when ur around pumping out ur propaganda lies. But then again ur in RKK so ur partly forgiven. Where is the propoganda lies? I asked the readers to name one instance of something that D2 had done that none of the other big alliances had done. Something that has shaped eve, something that has given the rest of eve reason to believe they are something other than their reality. I've showed you the reality of D2, whether you believe it or not is up to you. If at the very least, I have made you look at the facts then it will be worth it... these are not facts I am portraying but ones you have to look at for yourself. Look into an alliance that is supposedly a danger to BoB and therefore one of the big five.. well four now I guess with ASCN being dissolved. Just ask yourself this. With everything you have seen of D2 and with all the background knowledge on the corps involved, do you honestly believe that D2 deserve their place in the big four power blocks in eve and if so, do you honestly believe that they could actually affect or have any effect on us as an alliance? And finally leading on from that, if we move on them, do you honestly believe they will withstand that? dbp DBPreacher, to get right to the point, it is a diplomacy and numbers game. Currently I do not see bob in any real danger. We all know the picture would look completely different if all potential and past victims of bob would unite forces to protect their common interests. An effective diplomatic strategy is dealing with foes one by one, while at the same time sewing misturst between them. Keeping them seperated is the key. Clearly you are well aware of the effectiveness of this approach. To answer your question at the end of your post, the odds are against d2 if they stand alone. If d2 manages to convince the rest of eve to show strength, and protect their long term interests and ally with them, then bob looses. It is a diplomacy and numbers game. May the best one win, VV In my business there is no black, nor white. Just a million different shades of grey.
Serilla The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:26:00 - [396] Originally by: jernej Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Not true, i think you'll recall the reason ISS were set -10 by D2 in the first place? Plus the fact D2 are Trust, and whether they got isk for the outpost after they took it over or not. The fact remains, ISS still 'had' a Trust outpost, and trust wanted it back. If they sold the outpost then It's not a Trust outpost, is it ? You can't have the cake and eat it, or is it special T2 cake. Mmmm T2 cake
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:39:00 - [397] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: Scarlet Pimpernel "How do I know that D2 won't turn on me next?" Quite easy, you just have to play fair and dont try to take advantage. Ok, sorry for being uninformed or whatever, but wouldn't D2s surprise joining of the ISS bandwagon constitute taking advantage of their heavily weakened position? Not even going to mention playing 'fair', because that is a very subjective matter...but really, I'm personally very curious as to where you derive the basis for your perceived moral high ground. -----
MacDuncan Minmatar Unknown Society	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:04:00 - [398] Highly amusing Mrs. dbp....plz go on, i do have 4hrs+ left on boring work... :-) -- Might As well Train Another Race
Crozon Crozon Corp	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:11:00 - [399] This wasn't a case of D2 jumping on a bandwagon, it was a multilateral coordinated attack in two regions. AAA/IAC and others' attack in the South happened at exactly the same time as the D2 attack in the north. Yes, ISS had been fighting in the South for a while now, but this was the first time that capitals were deployed against them. I don't believe that this was pure coincidence. I don't know who thought up this plan or when, maybe it was last week, maybe it was months ago, but it is apparant to me that D2 and the parties in the South coordinated their attacks. People do tend to jump on bandwagons, like a lot of the smaller groups at the moment, a bit like sharks and the smell of blood. The difference is that it isn't the smell of blood but rahter the smell of getting on some easy killmails!
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:20:00 - [400] D2 PWNZOR'ZD ISS! if iss wanna roll with the big boys they better roll with the big toys as well. nice to see d2 stirr st17 up. go d2 tbh
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.08 13:26:00 - [401] Originally by: INZi D2 PWNZOR'ZD ISS! if iss wanna roll with the big boys they better roll with the big toys as well. nice to see d2 stirr st17 up. go d2 tbh MWAHAHAHAHA... Can you put imperial march into background? Oh wait, it was iss... -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve. McGreedy
Admentus Cor'vion Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.08 14:00:00 - [402] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: Scarlet Pimpernel "How do I know that D2 won't turn on me next?" Quite easy, you just have to play fair and dont try to take advantage. Mind elaborating as to what a person has to take advantage of? _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Admentus Cor'vion Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.08 14:08:00 - [403] Originally by: Xendie Originally by: Elve Sorrow Originally by: KIATheClash So when does LV goes to war with BoB ? I dont think you quite get the irony in your statement, so let me illustrate: Random D2/IRON/whatever pilots: "Haha RA pwn, Goon pwn, theyre the best, LV sucks." Awesome LV pilot (me): "D2, why dont you go fight a real enemy?" Random dude (you): "LV, why don't you attack BoB?" I hope you understand? Any more simpler terms and id be using kindergarten phrases. thats funny :P so why didnt LV, ISS, MC, FIX shoot bob instead of IAC ? Actually they were stealing 300 Motherships from IRON while building the no drawback warp core stab rigs for burn eden. No time! PS - People hate IAC for one very specific reason. Guess what it is? _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.08 14:18:00 - [404] Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: Scarlet Pimpernel "How do I know that D2 won't turn on me next?" Quite easy, you just have to play fair and dont try to take advantage. Mind elaborating as to what a person has to take advantage of? 1) taking advantage: Lets imagine that you are part of a 0 space alliance and you live side by side with other alliance that is supposed to be your friend... then you discover that actually those friends after all, run the complexes in your region, mine there, npc there, anchor pos in your systems, etc, etc, etc well maybe in this case you can say that they are taking advantage from you... 2) Play fair Lets imagine that you are part of a 0 space alliance and you live side by side with other alliance that is supposed to be your friend... then you discover that actually those friends after all, pass informations to your enemys, attack your friends, etc, etc, etc well maybe in this case you can say that they are not playing fair...

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