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Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:46:00 - [151] Edited by: Plan Neun on 05/01/2007 12:46:51 Edited by: Plan Neun on 05/01/2007 12:46:23 Originally by: The Anointed /Start Pure speculation D2 want to fight BoB, but know what will happen, so they decide to get involved in a cluster bang in the south that always had the potential to draw in BoB. D2 Smack a bit on the forums, try and make new friends, and wait.... /End Speculation What started as ISS steamrolling IAC (according to ISS posts) has suddenly turned into something pretty epic. For my own enjoyment I would love to see BoB in there. Forum has gotten an analyze from dbp, and she knows why G did this and that and why D2 make their choices to become a clone of ASCN. It is this rare mindreader implant +5, that i tryed to buy last spring from escrow. Just missed it, right before my nose. "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
DiuxDium Casting Shadows	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:47:00 - [152] Originally by: budman905 /me thinks D2 know something BoB dont.. and /me thinks D2 might have a few more bigger capital ships than BoB know about.. Good call from D2.. lets hope a few more wildcards are yet to be thrown in. /whisper "Most d2 pilots learned about the erberus from bob." /whisper "BoB knows more about the internal structure of D2 than D2 grunts." /whisper "Keep this incredibly blatent information sekrut." Seriously. D2 guys have said over and over, that their first word of the Erberus was from a london meet with Bobbits. If that isn't comedy. What is?
hired goon Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:48:00 - [153] Originally by: DiuxDium Seriously. D2 guys have said over and over, that their first word of the Erberus was from a london meet with Bobbits. If that isn't comedy. What is? That was just me actually -omg-
Centauris Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:49:00 - [154] Even if no one else does, i see why this has been done, great move guys. Shows the game does require some inteligence to play it, not just, POINT, LOCK, FIRE, KILL! sound familiar Goodluck D2, my the force be with you Making ISK is the name of the game. Those who say otherwise are either poor bastards or liars! "Kill, Collect, Sell"
DiuxDium Casting Shadows	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:50:00 - [155] Originally by: hired goon Originally by: DiuxDium Seriously. D2 guys have said over and over, that their first word of the Erberus was from a london meet with Bobbits. If that isn't comedy. What is? That was just me actually You're quick on the draw. I especialy liked how BoB knew the system the Erberus was cooking in. Well, the forum posts internally are what made it comedy gold. Stunning that BoB didn't smear those posts all over EvE-O. Either way, best of luck with this war!
budman905 Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:50:00 - [156] Originally by: DiuxDium Originally by: budman905 /me thinks D2 know something BoB dont.. and /me thinks D2 might have a few more bigger capital ships than BoB know about.. Good call from D2.. lets hope a few more wildcards are yet to be thrown in. /whisper "Most d2 pilots learned about the erberus from bob." /whisper "BoB knows more about the internal structure of D2 than D2 grunts." /whisper "Keep this incredibly blatent information sekrut." Seriously. D2 guys have said over and over, that their first word of the Erberus was from a london meet with Bobbits. If that isn't comedy. What is? OMG! dont worry, ill keep this information sekrut for all teh eternitys and beyonds!!! =============================================== "Thank you for using the S.A.S Clone jump service, Have a nice day" =============================================== http://www.pwned.nl/
Laythun Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:54:00 - [157] Originally by: hired goon Originally by: DiuxDium Seriously. D2 guys have said over and over, that their first word of the Erberus was from a london meet with Bobbits. If that isn't comedy. What is? That was just me actually Yes and we all know how much Goon pays attention in corp...dont we mate CEI's own Undercover Brother [MIA] It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ö
The Anointed Caldari StarBug Industries	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:55:00 - [158] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: The Anointed /Start Pure speculation D2 want to fight BoB, but know what will happen, so they decide to get involved in a cluster bang in the south that always had the potential to draw in BoB. D2 Smack a bit on the forums, try and make new friends, and wait.... /End Speculation What started as ISS steamrolling IAC (according to ISS posts) has suddenly turned into something pretty epic. For my own enjoyment I would love to see BoB in there. I am just guessing here, but D2 won't be going south, ISS have stations in the north you know. Im willing to put all my ISS shares on D2 going south. Shall we speculate on why they would go south and join in?
Laythun Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:56:00 - [159] Originally by: DiuxDium Originally by: hired goon Originally by: DiuxDium Seriously. D2 guys have said over and over, that their first word of the Erberus was from a london meet with Bobbits. If that isn't comedy. What is? That was just me actually You're quick on the draw. I especialy liked how BoB knew the system the Erberus was cooking in. Well, the forum posts internally are what made it comedy gold. Stunning that BoB didn't smear those posts all over EvE-O. Either way, best of luck with this war! erm it was sorta like we all knew, and erm we all knew about the planned attack etc etc. Oh and how hard is it to fly around someones space with an alt lookin at pos structures??? In anycase, D2 made a move correct for them. that is all. Go D2. /end CEI's own Undercover Brother [MIA] It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ö
jernej Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:56:00 - [160] Originally by: Dekiri First of all goons have OUTPOSTS now again and they are "well established" at the moment wich means that you completly failed in whiping them off the map forever. 'Well established' as RA pets ? They are even afraid to be on the map
Laythun Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:58:00 - [161] Originally by: jernej Originally by: Dekiri First of all goons have OUTPOSTS now again and they are "well established" at the moment wich means that you completly failed in whiping them off the map forever. 'Well established' as RA pets ? They are even afraid to be on the map Fear keeps you alive until your ready. its not clever to go screaming from the hilltops when the school bully is gunning for u is it? Better to wait, keep a low profile and hit the gym, til ur ready. right? oh damn ur bob u cant agree with me. CEI's own Undercover Brother [MIA] It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ö
Dekiri Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:59:00 - [162] Originally by: jernej Originally by: Dekiri First of all goons have OUTPOSTS now again and they are "well established" at the moment wich means that you completly failed in whiping them off the map forever. 'Well established' as RA pets ? They are even afraid to be on the map I can't comment if they are afraid to be on the map, but i know they show up on the steele outpost alert site at least, with 5 outposts afaik. I did not promise they would never be able to live in 0.0 it was Molle. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
Hehulk Slacker Industries	Posted - 2007.01.05 12:59:00 - [163] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii BoB dont own fountain, Celest and co do Alliaanna That is, until we moved in I've not killed this much in months ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:01:00 - [164] Originally by: jernej Originally by: Dekiri First of all goons have OUTPOSTS now again and they are "well established" at the moment wich means that you completly failed in whiping them off the map forever. 'Well established' as RA pets ? They are even afraid to be on the map Jernej.. thats a very poor argument... what are poor Xelas and the poor FIXies gonna think now? According to you they are like goons actually dead and only kept alive by the grace of BoB. Might wanna re-think that line of thought.
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:03:00 - [165] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: jernej Originally by: Dekiri First of all goons have OUTPOSTS now again and they are "well established" at the moment wich means that you completly failed in whiping them off the map forever. 'Well established' as RA pets ? They are even afraid to be on the map Jernej.. thats a very poor argument... what are poor Xelas and the poor FIXies gonna think now? According to you they are like goons actually dead and only kept alive by the grace of BoB. Might wanna re-think that line of thought. Bump "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:09:00 - [166] d2 jumps on a bandwagon to shoot an industrial corp about half it's size? i know i'm impressed Does d2 think IAC+RAGOONS+AAA arent good enuff? Where does d2 see the flaw in the current gangbangers against ISS, that they feel they are better? It's always sad to see alliances to weak to fight an enemy face to face, 1 on 1.. No respect is deserved for this
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:27:00 - [167] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: thoth foc d2 jumps on a bandwagon to shoot an industrial corp about half it's size? i know i'm impressed Does d2 think IAC+RAGOONS+AAA arent good enuff? Where does d2 see the flaw in the current gangbangers against ISS, that they feel they are better? It's always sad to see alliances to weak to fight an enemy face to face, 1 on 1.. No respect is deserved for this Thoth comeon you guys are smarter than that... D2 are trying to draw you out.... This will accomplish two things. 1) It will confirm to their new allies that MC/LV/BoB/ISS etc.. are all in eachothers pocket. thus cementing any new relationship and confirming the wisdom of it in the first place. 2) It draws BoB out to defend what is theirs..... and with every BoB post it becomes more and more obvious that BoB has some huge interests in ISS. ISS neutrality is now history. Ofc I could be wrong... but thats the picture that is developing. ISS has never been neutral. "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
Juan Andalusian TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:30:00 - [168] Quote: BoB has some huge interests in ISS And it's all connected with the Xelas station in PNQY. Pain is meant to be felt

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:53:00 - [169] Cleaned a little, please try and keep flamining to the minimum. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long

Butter Dog Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:54:00 - [170] Originally by: Blacklight Nice outpost, we'll take it? Someone pls point me to the 'nice' ISS outpost worth capturing please ----------
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:56:00 - [171] Originally by: Ras Blumin Originally by: DB Preacher In order to destroy BoB, you must..... attack ISS! Attacking a weaker entity to gain or keep power is all BoB have ever done afaik. And here we have our thread winner. It's great being Amarr that flys Minmintar aint it? EVIL SYNNs > Bob are the best, we have to pay them to use the plexs...
Karunel Princeps Corp	Posted - 2007.01.05 13:58:00 - [172] Edited by: Karunel on 05/01/2007 14:03:17 Originally by: Blacklight Nice outpost, we'll take it? Damn you, I was about to post that. Edit: BTW I don't really understand the ***ing by BoB. As I see it if D2 captures some ISS outposts in the South they may be getting a foothold in the region to attack you, isn't that what you want? Originally by:** elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Karunel Princeps Corp	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:10:00 - [173] Quote: They are called pets, I don't know what word RA uses for the goons. So, you're saying that FIX and Xelas are pets? They're probably very happy about your gracious comment. Feel free to correct me if I missunderstood. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Butter Dog Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:13:00 - [174] Actually, in all seriousness, the only reason this move could be considered to make sense (since ISS, being spread across the map and already busy with IAC, can't put up an real resistance to D2) would be if D2 want staging outposts in the South for a war against BoB. Otherwise, I can't see what the benefit is. There is certainly no challenge involved. D2 won't get any good fights, thats for sure. Picking on ISS doesnt look good for D2 - people will accuse them of taking the easy option. And not only that, an easy option which is already pretty occupied elsewhere. ----------
Frygok Minmatar Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:14:00 - [175] I don't really get it. On one side we have DBP telling D2 that they are no more than ASCN, and a sucky carebear alliance. Yet at the same time we have Bobbits flaming D2 for attacking a smaller entity(and not attacking BoB). Well, duh! It would be quite pointless to attack BoB if DBP's statement is true, no? Someone really need to realise this game does not evolve around them and their alliance alone.
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:16:00 - [176] oh plz stfu already all of you. I can understand why D2 wants to attack ISS, but not what bob has to do with it.. I know about the genuine plan of invading fountain blabla care, but i rather see this as an old score to settle and a way to test what they are really worth. As for BoB, yes i understand your frustration and stuff, but its not like you are directly involved in this, yes? I rather dont see you up north with your big blob of doom, its quite fun down/up here atm <_< but i guess if you care that much, it cant be stopped. By the way, i agree with you .. D2 are nothing better then ASCN except for the fact that they prolly will be able to defend emselve if needed, because of the huge ammount of people they have (napped). But like dbp said, they are a miner alliance .. So how about we just let D2 shoot ISS? Its not like anything special is gonna happen anyway. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:17:00 - [177] Originally by: KIAEddZ As Nez rightly points out, this is a relationship tester. ISS have some powerful people in thier share portfoliio, have no doubts of that... now we will see a real test (no offense IAC) of what those investors will do to stop ISS going down. It is fairly simple to know that BoB have a large portion of shares, the old Trust outpost in EC-P was "given" to them by BoB, and we know that ISS have isk to spend on mercs etc. For me personally... I see this a no brainer, ISS are gonners, they will lose whatever stations D2 wish to take, which by the looks of it is all of them. Bob arent going to move their war machine to help, this would cause an immediate response from RedSwarm and other D2 aligned entities, and anyone else is in consequential, LV being the next largest potential allie for ISS would have no effect on D2s campaign, and more than that redswarm would move in hard on their territory if they sent away the defense forces... LV can only move if Redswarm move.... and RedSwarm will only move if BoB do. Balls in BoB's court, but they may well not care anywhere near enough to launch it back. Nice move D2. You're way off EddZ; we've been -10 with ISS since booting them out of BoB space, months before the EC-P8R incident. You can check this on our killboard, as thereÆs always regular ISS losses on there. What IÆd like to think, as I still have a few friends in D2, is that they have chosen an 'easy' option to get match fit, so they don't come after Bob with carebear cobwebs clouding their PvP abilities. However the reality could well be, after all the forum posturing, D2 (G) are still avoiding us and haven't grown any cohones during the last arms race. I hope itÆs the former as weÆre still up for a good ruck following our fun in Feythabolis. Originally by: Blacklight I think Madeye and CRYVOK have delusions of adequacy!
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:25:00 - [178] Originally by: Butter Dog Actually, in all seriousness, the only reason this move could be considered to make sense (since ISS, being spread across the map and already busy with IAC, can't put up an real resistance to D2) would be if D2 want staging outposts in the South for a war against BoB. Otherwise, I can't see what the benefit is. There is certainly no challenge involved. D2 won't get any good fights, thats for sure. Picking on ISS doesnt look good for D2 - people will accuse them of taking the easy option. And not only that, an easy option which is already pretty occupied elsewhere. Well to understand why this move from D2 makes sense ... you have to take a step back and look at the very big picture. And I mean EVE-wide. In this big picture ISS are but an ant. However, it appears the ant has benefactors. We know that LV will turn up to defend them and that MC will get hired when attacked by a relatively small force like IAC, which in turn brings RAGoonTCF into the mix and AAA. Even without this latest development ISS was still screwed at least in the south. As the balance of power had shifted against them. Now if certain entities have NAP'd with eachother in preparation for something big.... they may want to know who else will come to ISS' aid, should they turn up the heat. And lo and behold..... we have a thread full of BoB seemingly very interested in this latest development..... I say the announcement was worth it just to see the various comments in this thread. If you try to think about this situation in terms of profit and isk and monetary value, you will not see the issue. Forget about ISK and shares and profit margins or even good fights or anything like that.... this is about power and ego's... what EVE has always been about and always will be... which is why its so much fun.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:26:00 - [179] Originally by: DoctorGonzo You're way off EddZ; we've been -10 with ISS since booting them out of BoB space, months before the EC-P8R incident. You can check this on our killboard, as thereÆs always regular ISS losses on there. What IÆd like to think, as I still have a few friends in D2, is that they have chosen an 'easy' option to get match fit, so they don't come after Bob with carebear cobwebs clouding their PvP abilities. However the reality could well be, after all the forum posturing, D2 (G) are still avoiding us and haven't grown any cohones during the last arms race. I hope itÆs the former as weÆre still up for a good ruck following our fun in Feythabolis. -10 with ISS... thats all cool, more targets, I understand that, its a policy BoB have lived on for a long time, no one gets + wihtout actually earning it (blowing up ISS pilots ships hardly hurts their economy). But are you honestly trying to sell to me that when you gave them ECP to manage, no forward ISK generating deal was made with them..... If that is the case, I'm surprised. But as I said, I am not expecting BoB to come to ISS rescue, even if you have 10's of billions invested there, i doubt it'll be that much, it still isn't worth your time... unless you see it as a point to lay the smack down on D2, but we all know that will be world war 1, maybe its not the right time for that yet, maybe it is. Certainly D2 have made thier next move, its a strange one, and does appear to be a little weak, but if nothing else in the forum battle of D2 vs BoB, which is an old one, the ball is back in BoBs court. KIA EVE Home
Nacona Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:26:00 - [180] Congradulations to D2 on the new campain ... GL, and here is hoping you find some good fights... For the record, effective immediately Sparta will be setting ISS and any entities operating in support of ISS to KOS. Now back to the endless streams of BOB propagada that will hijack this thread

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