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Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.01.06 07:58:00 - [31] [ 2007.01.06 00:05:11 ] Nekumi > /emote Nekumi bows > Thank you Lady Neferis [ 2007.01.06 00:05:21 ] Jade Constantine > decadence, pleasure and excess! [ 2007.01.06 00:05:31 ] Able Citizen > /emote pirouettes, his skirt lilting as he twirls [ 2007.01.06 00:05:31 ] Verone > /emote raises his glass once again [ 2007.01.06 00:05:34 ] Revan Neferis > /emote raises her glass to Jade > delicious!! [ 2007.01.06 00:05:48 ] Jade Constantine > lets bury the statist functionaries in a coffin of their delusions! [ 2007.01.06 00:05:49 ] Sakura Nihil > War. [ 2007.01.06 00:05:58 ] Tatsue Nuko > /emote nudges Gogo lightly > I promise you though, there will be some surprises even for your oracular powers... [ 2007.01.06 00:06:10 ] Jade Constantine > /emote takes a glass and raises it with Revan and her free captains gathered around [ 2007.01.06 00:06:13 ] Jade Constantine > "To war!" [ 2007.01.06 00:06:54 ] Verone > /emote glances to revan with a smile, and a wink as he passes heading to the cave > To war... [ 2007.01.06 00:07:05 ] Naphtalia > /emote raises her glass > Death.. smiles at Jade with a grin [ 2007.01.06 00:07:56 ] The Cosmopolite > /emote raise his glass high > To biomass! And so, Bloodeveil blesses with champagne, heart and mind one more campaign of the prophets. looks at her chess board And so it begins.
Caratacus	Posted - 2007.01.06 08:19:00 - [32] Now through out this thread so far and the Mito War Diary most of us have agreed that the Star Fraction is an attention seeking child looking to ruin everyone else's fun. All your bul*it propaganda aside your only fighting Cyrene because you believe you can win. Your SCARED to fight CVA and Co because you wouldn't be able to beat their fleets and thus wouldn't be able to make flashy little messages saying how much better you are than anyone else. You can't Handle CVA but you can't handle not being the certain of attention either so you have War decced a hard working, high standing organisation that you can bully in order to keep your less than attractive faces and views in the lime light. As for jumping into bed with IU that is laughable. There whole political stance has been to destroy Pro federation corporations before there big enough to even stand up for themselves never mind fight back. then Mr Bliss sends messages saying 'We've won 18 wars and never lost one' you won 18 wars and never lost one because you have mostly fought new corporations. i don't doubt your pilots have soem PVP ability but the have no credit or honour since flying in the IU. They are Amarrian puppets and you (SF) still hold them in higher regard than the likes of CYI. I look forward to your reply defending yourselves on this. Star fraction and Intaki Union are made for each other, playground bully's that want everyone livign in fear of them and bowing down at their name. I tell you this, Star Fraction and Intaki Union are Oppresing everyones right to an opinion unless you believe what they say you can't exist. I ask you, What kind of Freedom is that? Caratacus Blackrain Solutions ((give some proper answers guys not just insult and flashy posting, why are you doign this your actions are contradicting your RP and your just coming across as a bunch of griefing Wan*s))
Gervais Zhang Gallente The Durandal Organization	Posted - 2007.01.06 09:33:00 - [33] Edited by: Gervais Zhang on 06/01/2007 09:31:33 Their actions make perfect sense insofar as they have an excellent opportunity to seriously damage, if not destroy, the Initiative whilst it is already locked in two seperate and significant wars. You can attack the Fraction's politics in supporting the Intaki Union, but you can just as easily defend their actions as being expedient. The real irony will be if the Initiative's enemies press the fight. An excellent opportunity exists to crush the Fraction and defeat anarchy, but this would require a cessation of hostilities on the part of the Intaki Union and the Patriot Pact. It seems more likely, however, that they will prefer short-term gains and end up facing the full might of Star Fraction if the Initiative falls, but without allies. Wisdom would be for every nationalist corporation to temporarily put aside their differences in favour of crushing a common enemy. I don't really expect anyone to be wise but we can dare to dream. Fight the good fight, Star Fraction.
Doktor Quick	Posted - 2007.01.06 10:24:00 - [34] Originally by: Aeaus Edited by: Aeaus on 06/01/2007 06:00:10 Originally by: Nolin Riis Let these words ring true. My personal and professional opinions of the IU aside, I believe that Star Fraction is making a mistake. The scourge of Placid is a tyranny that does not collect taxes. Pirates roam freely, murdering civilians and capsuleers alike. Free-enterprising capsuleers. Don't you understand, Star Fraction? If you really do value the potential and dignity of fellow pilots, then why do you want to crush the humble corporations who make Placid safe for pilots new and old? If the cause you so nationalistically (yes, I said nationalistically) trumpet is true, then I suggest you drop this masturbatory campaign and focus on the bigger fish: opportunistic, cowardly bullies who prey on pilots who are just trying to strike out a living. Love your cause more than you hate your enemies. Shall we compare pirates and anti-pirates to predators and prey (and it can go both ways), logically we would expect equilibrium to be reached between both in a short time period after a disruptive event. To abandon our hatred for nationalism and allow Cyrene to maintain their foothold on placid to simply avoid a potential spike in piracy is not something that can considered remotely significant, nor is it remotely a mistake on our part. So what your saying is that It doesn't matter how many innocent people Die as long as you get to stomp on some nuetral organization that offered you no provocation, spoken like a true freedom fighter, or terrorist, or pirate, maybe scum is the best title?
Graelyn Amarr The Aeternus Crusade Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.01.06 10:58:00 - [35] Thanks Star Fraction! Good to see you have the Amarr Empire's flank covered! (Incidentally, should you ever take on Amarr, every other Empire's loyalists might(?) come to our defense to fight you, eager for revenge....what a strange situation that would be....) "Victory is in reach, if you can but open your eyes to it." Admiral/Executor - Aegis Militia
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 11:50:00 - [36] I have found almost every response to our declaration pathetic. For those in the peanut galleries, you know where our war theatre is and if you find what we do so reprehensible come stop us. To those federation worms, mewling and crying before a single shot is fired, your voices bring strength to my actions and I will never have felt so righteous in executing such pathetic excuses for humanity. Your weakness is an example to all of what happens when you never stop sucking the rotten teet of imperialism. Time for you to be weened.
Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 11:55:00 - [37] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Originally by: Agustus Caesar points Even if the Federation is the lesser of two evils, it does not change the fact that it is a subtle evil that needs to be destroyed. I would even go as far as saying that the Federation is the greater evil. Everyone can see the evil that Amarr empire represents. The threat is clear and defined; number of those opposing slavery and archaic religios regime of Amarr is great. Federation and its 'democracy', on the other hand, is a subtle threat, and is supported by a large number of people, who being ignorant fall for the trap marked 'freedom here'. If one does not see the danger, it does not make it any less real. Those who think that The Star Fraction somehow goes against its own ideology here should update their definition of freedom. It seems the gallentean democracy virus was successful at infecting your mind.
Caratacus	Posted - 2007.01.06 12:13:00 - [38] Those are exactly the response's i expect. you do nothing to explain your actions just answer with pathetic phrases 'if you don;t like it come stop us' I am more than happy to admit that i could not stop even one of your vets let alone your blob. But you could at least have the decency to explain your behaviour or you will always be known as cowwards an bully's I ask again are you scared of Amarrians is that why you've targetted an exetremely quiet Alliance. Don't give me crap about in game converstaions with them. The Cyrene Initiative are seldom heard from on IGS and they hardly ever throw opinions around. so you tell us why you target them over Exetremely vocal Pro Amarr alliance's. YOUR scared thats why. you know you can't handle Amarr so you take out the little guy to make yourselves feel big. It's pathetic, Do you all feel big and proud in your pods. These tactics ressemble IU's way to closely. You only attack when you think you can win ((nothing to do with RP just Griefing))
Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 12:30:00 - [39] Originally by: Caratacus Those are exactly the response's i expect. you do nothing to explain your actions just answer with pathetic phrases 'if you don;t like it come stop us' I am more than happy to admit that i could not stop even one of your vets let alone your blob. But you could at least have the decency to explain your behaviour or you will always be known as cowwards an bully's I ask again are you scared of Amarrians is that why you've targetted an exetremely quiet Alliance. Don't give me crap about in game converstaions with them. The Cyrene Initiative are seldom heard from on IGS and they hardly ever throw opinions around. so you tell us why you target them over Exetremely vocal Pro Amarr alliance's. YOUR scared thats why. you know you can't handle Amarr so you take out the little guy to make yourselves feel big. It's pathetic, Do you all feel big and proud in your pods. These tactics ressemble IU's way to closely. You only attack when you think you can win ((nothing to do with RP just Griefing)) We explained the reasons behind this war very clearly I believe. Who are to demand we explain our actions to you? This is not the last war we fight. I am afraid you will have to swallow your own words in the future, if you have a future that is. Whose fault is it you are weak? ((I did not want to post OOC, but here it goes. You suppored the Federation, we fight the imperialism. Welcome to EVE boy. If you support something, learn to protect it. Let it be the last OOC post here. If you want to discuss more start a thread in public section of SF forums or in OOC section of EVE-O))
Hulemand Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.01.06 12:43:00 - [40] I support the Intaki freedom fighters and see this new bond between the Star Fraction and the Intaki Union as being very positive. For many years did the propaganda of the gallente federation blind me, but thanks to people like SF I learned of the federations failures and wickedness! At the time I ask of the Star Fraction to keep in mind the threats waiting to take over the federation in a second of weakness - threats like the Amarr dogs, blinded by their religion and their bestially instinct for inslaving others! Free pilot, Captain Hulemand! - Hulemand
deadly eggroll	Posted - 2007.01.06 13:54:00 - [41] Paging Revan, Paging Revan. Your, OMG I'M so Crazy pill is now ready. You/them/he/her/it/that can pick it up at Duvolle labs at one of our very convenient galactic locations.
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 14:23:00 - [42] Terrorists? We do not attack civilian targets, or pose as civilians by way of promoting a false sense of safety. Each target for our guns is a combat capable force. Each musters warships and veteran pilots prepared to fight for what they believe in. We do not use terror to force our rargets to capitulate. We are decisive and honest in our declarations and visible and open in our backup of those orders. This asside, as has been said: if you wish to defend Cyrene, you know where to find us. ~ Ryoji Tanakama
Maud Dib Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 14:48:00 - [43] Originally by: Caratacus Those are exactly the response's i expect. you do nothing to explain your actions just answer with pathetic phrases 'if you don;t like it come stop us' I am more than happy to admit that i could not stop even one of your vets let alone your blob. But you could at least have the decency to explain your behaviour or you will always be known as cowwards an bully's I ask again are you scared of Amarrians is that why you've targetted an exetremely quiet Alliance. Don't give me crap about in game converstaions with them. The Cyrene Initiative are seldom heard from on IGS and they hardly ever throw opinions around. so you tell us why you target them over Exetremely vocal Pro Amarr alliance's. YOUR scared thats why. you know you can't handle Amarr so you take out the little guy to make yourselves feel big. It's pathetic, Do you all feel big and proud in your pods. These tactics ressemble IU's way to closely. You only attack when you think you can win ((nothing to do with RP just Griefing)) When you have ceased your child like tantrum and the haze has passed from your admittedly impotent rage perhaps you should examine what you have written. "You only attack when you think you can win," What sort of fool attacks when he does not think he can win? When your entire argument is as flawed as the aboce quote why should anyone bother to care what you think?
Inistis INTAKI UNION	Posted - 2007.01.06 15:10:00 - [44] Finally. From here and beyond words mean nothing. NOW we shall have a War. Let the guns of IU, its allies and our enemies speak. Time to bleed together. Let it begin.
Caratacus	Posted - 2007.01.06 15:29:00 - [45] Not a fool, someone with the courage you claim to posses. I see this is fruitless. You have no intention of defending yourselves i will stop replyign to this and fuelling your attention seeking PR. Your cowards without honour and your fighting the good fight that will save the Amarrians the trouble. Your nicely allied with known Amarrian collaborators. so i brand you either cowards with no honour (which i believe to be true) or your Amarrian puppets which i see as a remote possibility. don't bother to answer me i've said all i have to say. Let other view your wayward and despicable antics and make their own decision.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 15:43:00 - [46] Originally by: Caratacus Not a fool, someone with the courage you claim to posses. Then I imagine we'll be seeing you in space soon Caratacus. Otherwise you are simply an empty bag of wind and deserve nothing of respect or notice. Star Fraction is recruiting
Running Leopard Minmatar Vherokior Mining Company	Posted - 2007.01.06 16:24:00 - [47] I am a victim of the Star Fraction. Two days ago ago I was flying in my Hoarder in Hakonen and was attacked by them. They said they were sorry and it was a accident they were waiting for someone else and paid me but warned me to stay out of the Star Fraction space. I didnt have a chance they were 100km from the gate and I didnt even see it happen. I came out of warp and was killed. One of them was very rude and suggested they not pay me at all because I could be a spy and Im just a new person. Then he said I was incapable of understanding the complex dynamics of free space. I asked him what that means and he laughed at me. Im pretty new to Eve so this wasnt fun for me at all. I found out about Star Fraction while getting ready to post a question about RP and recognized the person who attacked me. After reading the posts here I can see theyre longwinded attentionseekers who are arrogant and that they like to beat up on people who cant fight back. They did pay for my hoarder so I guess I should be grateful but said they couldnt pay for anything else and someone else stole the loot from the can so they said I couldnt prove what I had in it. Everything I owned was in the ship including some small gun blueprints I had bought to try and make money. I lost just about everything and they only paid me for the ship and the lost items in the killmail. I dont care about their big posts I just wanted people to know what kind of people they are. Running Leopard
Destania Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 16:35:00 - [48] Originally by: Inistis Edited by: Inistis on 06/01/2007 15:23:04 It is time for us all to bleed...to bleed together. Let it begin. I think I like this guy! Well said!
Maud Dib Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 17:08:00 - [49] Originally by: Running Leopard I am a victim of the Star Fraction. Two days ago ago I was flying in my Hoarder in Hakonen and was attacked by them. They said they were sorry and it was a accident they were waiting for someone else and paid me but warned me to stay out of the Star Fraction space. I didnt have a chance they were 100km from the gate and I didnt even see it happen. I came out of warp and was killed. One of them was very rude and suggested they not pay me at all because I could be a spy and Im just a new person. Then he said I was incapable of understanding the complex dynamics of free space. I asked him what that means and he laughed at me. Im pretty new to Eve so this wasnt fun for me at all. I found out about Star Fraction while getting ready to post a question about RP and recognized the person who attacked me. After reading the posts here I can see theyre longwinded attentionseekers who are arrogant and that they like to beat up on people who cant fight back. They did pay for my hoarder so I guess I should be grateful but said they couldnt pay for anything else and someone else stole the loot from the can so they said I couldnt prove what I had in it. Everything I owned was in the ship including some small gun blueprints I had bought to try and make money. I lost just about everything and they only paid me for the ship and the lost items in the killmail. I dont care about their big posts I just wanted people to know what kind of people they are. Running Leopard Perhaps you could either post the kill mail involved or EVE mail it to and I will look into this matter. Also sending the chat logs of the person you feel mistreated you would help. You will forgive me if I find it hard to believe that some of our members took the loot can of an innocent person. Honestly if you are indeed new to the cluster I can't imagine any of them needing what you have much less taking it. On further review it seems your corp has one member, being your self obviously, and that you have been in the cluster for three days. So you must have been fairly successful it seems to have afforded to start your own corp so soon. Seems a bit odd to me I must say.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 17:33:00 - [50] Originally by: Running Leopard I am a victim of the Star Fraction. Two days ago ago I was flying in my Hoarder in Hakonen and was attacked by them. They said they were sorry and it was a accident they were waiting for someone else and paid me but warned me to stay out of the Star Fraction space. I didnt have a chance they were 100km from the gate and I didnt even see it happen. I came out of warp and was killed. One of them was very rude and suggested they not pay me at all because I could be a spy and Im just a new person. Then he said I was incapable of understanding the complex dynamics of free space. I asked him what that means and he laughed at me. Im pretty new to Eve so this wasnt fun for me at all. I found out about Star Fraction while getting ready to post a question about RP and recognized the person who attacked me. After reading the posts here I can see theyre longwinded attentionseekers who are arrogant and that they like to beat up on people who cant fight back. They did pay for my hoarder so I guess I should be grateful but said they couldnt pay for anything else and someone else stole the loot from the can so they said I couldnt prove what I had in it. Everything I owned was in the ship including some small gun blueprints I had bought to try and make money. I lost just about everything and they only paid me for the ship and the lost items in the killmail. I dont care about their big posts I just wanted people to know what kind of people they are. Running Leopard You are a liar and whoever put you up to this is a coward of the worst order. If this is what our enemies must resort to at least make the fabrication somewhat believable.
Gervais Zhang Gallente The Durandal Organization	Posted - 2007.01.06 17:37:00 - [51] Honestly, I don't see what's so hard to understand about Star Fraction. Behind the smoke and mirrors, their philosophy can be easily summarised as "Might Makes Right." Arguing with simpletons that live by such paradigms, whatever their eloquence, gives them credence they do not deserve. Incidentally, SF, since you're fond of telling people who want to fight you to put our ships where are mouths are, would you mind wardeccing us? Not everyone who wants to throw some frigates and cruisers at you can afford to buy off CONCORD like you can.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 17:42:00 - [52] Edited by: Nekumi on 06/01/2007 17:40:23 Originally by: Gervais Zhang Honestly, I don't see what's so hard to understand about Star Fraction. Behind the smoke and mirrors, their philosophy can be easily summarised as "Might Makes Right." Arguing with simpletons that live by such paradigms, whatever their eloquence, gives them credence they do not deserve. Incidentally, SF, since you're fond of telling people who want to fight you to put our ships where are mouths are, would you mind wardeccing us? Not everyone who wants to throw some frigates and cruisers at you can afford to buy off CONCORD like you can. You want us to pay you to fight us and you call us simpletons? Oh and we prefer the phrase Right makes Might.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 17:43:00 - [53] Originally by: Gervais Zhang Incidentally, SF, since you're fond of telling people who want to fight you to put our ships where are mouths are, would you mind wardeccing us? Not everyone who wants to throw some frigates and cruisers at you can afford to buy off CONCORD like you can. I suggest you go cap in hand to Cyrene. Economics is part of war in this universe and I see no merit in funding the wars of enemies. We won't complain if you declare on us but asking us to pay for it is a nonsense. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Recruitment
pauleuler	Posted - 2007.01.06 17:52:00 - [54] Originally by: Caratacus Not a fool, someone with the courage you claim to posses. I see this is fruitless. You have no intention of defending yourselves i will stop replyign to this and fuelling your attention seeking PR. Your cowards without honour and your fighting the good fight that will save the Amarrians the trouble. Your nicely allied with known Amarrian collaborators. so i brand you either cowards with no honour (which i believe to be true) or your Amarrian puppets which i see as a remote possibility. don't bother to answer me i've said all i have to say. Let other view your wayward and despicable antics and make their own decision. I found this shocking in it's blatant xenophobic, racist nationalism. Agents of Amarr - is that the limit of your understandings? Have you become so locked into your memetic structures that you cannot construe conflict in terms other than of race hate? I almost pity you, shackled in your prison of habitual thought, but then I remember the dead victims of you fascist ideology spread across millennia. We shall have you all down, your dust will be stirred by out boots as we pass.
innot Minmatar Technology 42	Posted - 2007.01.06 18:03:00 - [55] Best of luck to the Cyrene Initiative, Give the Star Fraction hell
Tomahawk Bliss	Posted - 2007.01.06 18:05:00 - [56] Originally by: Gervais Zhang Incidentally, SF, since you're fond of telling people who want to fight you to put our ships where are mouths are, would you mind wardeccing us? Not everyone who wants to throw some frigates and cruisers at you can afford to buy off CONCORD like you can. are you declaring your support of Cyrene and the vile Federation they serve? Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think.
Kodan Ajex Gallente Federal Ranger Corp	Posted - 2007.01.06 18:10:00 - [57] Originally by: Tecam Hund Originally by: Sakura Nihil Originally by: Agustus Caesar points Even if the Federation is the lesser of two evils, it does not change the fact that it is a subtle evil that needs to be destroyed. So those who support equality is evil so those who suppost freedom of expression is evil so those who advocate that all are free is evil so those who support we all have a chance to become all we can are evil sorry but all you bluster shows you to be the tyrant who cant accept free will. "The truest measure of a society is how it treats its elderly, its pets, and its prisoners."
Aria Jenneth Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.06 18:57:00 - [58] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 06/01/2007 19:05:35 Well, you can't say nobody warned you. I wrote this open letter while serving as ops director in APEX. Please read nothing of Omerta policy or perspective here. Good luck, Cyrene. You're going to need a lot of it.
Hakel Daima Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.06 19:38:00 - [59] Originally by: Kodan Ajex So those who support equality is evil so those who suppost freedom of expression is evil so those who advocate that all are free is evil so those who support we all have a chance to become all we can are evil sorry but all you bluster shows you to be the tyrant who cant accept free will. Do not make the mistake of believing government propaganda. The Federation claims to be in favour of individual freedom, equality and oportunity for all, but a cursory glance through a history book shows us how far you can trust such claims. I put it to you Mr. Ajex to ask the descendants of those murdered at Caldari Prime about Federation notions of equality and freedom. I put to you Mr. Ajex to ask the Intaki exciled for their beliefs and actions about Gallente notions of freedom of expression and tyranny. The fact of the matter is that while citizens of the Federation are freer than many they are only as free as their government allows them to be and, as history has shown us, that same government has a habit of changing its mind when it comes to the rights it deems its subjects fit to have.
Kodan Ajex Gallente Federal Ranger Corp	Posted - 2007.01.06 21:22:00 - [60] Edited by: Kodan Ajex on 06/01/2007 21:20:10 Originally by: Hakel Daima Originally by: Kodan Ajex So those who support equality is evil so those who suppost freedom of expression is evil so those who advocate that all are free is evil so those who support we all have a chance to become all we can are evil sorry but all you bluster shows you to be the tyrant who cant accept free will. Do not make the mistake of believing government propaganda. The Federation claims to be in favour of individual freedom, equality and oportunity for all, but a cursory glance through a history book shows us how far you can trust such claims. I put it to you Mr. Ajex to ask the descendants of those murdered at Caldari Prime about Federation notions of equality and freedom. I put to you Mr. Ajex to ask the Intaki exciled for their beliefs and actions about Gallente notions of freedom of expression and tyranny. The fact of the matter is that while citizens of the Federation are freer than many they are only as free as their government allows them to be and, as history has shown us, that same government has a habit of changing its mind when it comes to the rights it deems its subjects fit to have. agian bluster you have not answered the questions, are the fundimental corner stones of the federation as i have set before you at odds with SF. the Intaki where the reason we have the current persident are you telling them they are wrong and you know better. you and your entire alliance are the tyrants dont use smoke and mirrors it only makes you look stupid "The truest measure of a society is how it treats its elderly, its pets, and its prisoners."

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