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Maze La'Zie
Caldari Technology La'Zie
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Posted - 2007.01.11 12:53:00 -
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This series of events reminded me of a joke I once overheard in-station.
Q. How many Freecaptains does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. It doesn't get changed. They all left to look for another one to smash.
I feel slightly depressed.
________________________ Chief Scientific Officer Technology La'Zie |

Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.11 13:25:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Maze La'Zie This series of events reminded me of a joke I once overheard in-station.
Q. How many Freecaptains does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. It doesn't get changed. They all left to look for another one to smash.
I feel slightly depressed.
This works for me. I like it a lot.
Star Fraction would in fact promote that each freecaptain carry his own lantern, and have no need for the bulb provided to keep the masses sedentary.
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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.11 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 11/01/2007 18:45:52 Lucius,
displaying the benefits of some aspects of the Free Captain ethos is something we continually do. Every time we stare the imperialist in the eye and make our living in "their" space. Every time a would-be landlord's claim is successfully answered with the destruction of his ship and present incarnation. Every time things like this happen, we display that the dream of territory and empire are false dreams, for their one great aspiration in security is impossible for them to achieve.
As for the current campaign, it is quite simple in it's rationale. The ideas mirrored by nullsec tyrants, brigands and murderers (like those decrying our supposed lack of humanity or whatnot) originally came from somewhere.
This somewhere is the empires, the planetbound societies. The infection is one that tries to perpetuate itself by transmitting ideas originally made for the limited environment of often hostile planets with very limited resources into anew environ of unlimited resources and, therefore, unlimited possibility.
It follows, therefore, that any such "contagion vector" must be nullified before a successful long-term campaign can be realized in the outer reaches of the frontier. In plain language: those individuals and organizations that serve as transmission grounds of such ideas must be destroyed - foremost amongst them (but not limited to) those capsuleers, those transhumanists, that cling to and spread those aged and obsolete ideas.
Once the movements that we know as "capsuleer militias" has been destroyed, the real work on the frontiers can begin. And yes, by "destroyed" I do mean that in it's very literate sense. The contagion vector must be eliminated, hopefully through a good amount of persuation, but if total destruction of such enemies of humanity proves necessary then that is what we must dedicate ourselves to.
Doing something half-assed never works to anyone's benefit. The job will not be done in a long time, and while we are searching for ways of making it easier and quicker, we certainly cannot allow ourselves to shirk from any aspect or expense, material or human, until the job is done.
Certainly, time is on our side.
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Lucius Lefebvre
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.11 22:41:00 -
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Mme. Nuko
Your response is as generous as it is eloquent and, yet, unrelenting. You give me a tough nut to ***** and my aim is so often proved awry, as it is now.
I cannot fault your reasoning, but the cost?
It's apparent that the greater good of (post)humanity derives from the passing of outmoded thought - so much blood is already, daily, spilled in the names of false idols. But I quale at the idea of these shortcuts.
You take the shortest route to your ideal - even to outflank history's measured tread - and in so doing demonstrate a resolve I cannot even come close to.
I tell myself that I value human life, even while the blood of thousands is on my hands - and for what? I might console myself that they each made a choice which brought them before my guns, but what sort of choice is it to scratch around in a starship's bowels?
It's a matter of degree which, in the end, means nothing.
I looked into the steely gaze of Star Fraction and was found wanting.
It sickens me, but I cannot judge your war. If such a lack brings me before your guns then so be it. I guess I'm feeling emotional. Damn Matari ale.
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Kaleigh Doyle
Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.01.11 23:03:00 -
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Apparently the outlaw tyrants weren't completely void of merit as bloodthirsty warmongering appears to be the fashion of our era. Take that, memetic regression!

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Auele
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Posted - 2007.01.11 23:47:00 -
[126]
Enough of this!
Where is my war diary?????

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Lucius Lefebvre
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.11 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle Apparently the outlaw tyrants weren't completely void of merit as bloodthirsty warmongering appears to be the fashion of our era. Take that, memetic regression!

Did I just make the mistake of getting worked up over this seasons look?!!
I need to find me some more fashionable clubs.
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.01.12 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Steiner Another reason to hate SF. Always wonder how deep the hole they digging for them self is going to be.
I hope sooner rather then later the world will turn against you and your contradicting ways and finally get rid of you once and for all. Bury you so deep that not even history will remember you.
You can't kill an idea Steiner.
But isn't that what you are trying to do? Killing the idea that empires are good? ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.12 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Steiner Another reason to hate SF. Always wonder how deep the hole they digging for them self is going to be.
I hope sooner rather then later the world will turn against you and your contradicting ways and finally get rid of you once and for all. Bury you so deep that not even history will remember you.
You can't kill an idea Steiner.
But isn't that what you are trying to do? Killing the idea that empires are good?
Read the whole thread please...
*Tecam Hund sighs* Sometimes I think that autocannons talking have a much better effect.
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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.12 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Auele Enough of this!
Where is my war diary?????

It's coming, it's coming. 
Join the revolution, babeh! |

Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.12 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lucius Lefebvre It sickens me, but I cannot judge your war. If such a lack brings me before your guns then so be it. I guess I'm feeling emotional. Damn Matari ale.
Awh, you should try some Matigu Brandies sometime. They are truly the best.
But fear not, your inquisitive mind and taste for approaching the conundrum of our futures with intellect tells me that you are unlikely to fall before our weapons. And if circumstance should still so conspire, have heart and know that it is nothing personal, and no-one is forever doomed. The amount of ex-pirates, ex-nullsec imperialists as well as ex-state loyalists (such as myself) that we have in our ranks shows that none of these tainted ideas sit lodged too heavily to be pried loose.
Just requires a variable amount of reincarnations, sometimes. 
Join the revolution, babeh! |

Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.01.12 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Hoshi on 12/01/2007 12:36:26
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Hoshi But isn't that what you are trying to do? Killing the idea that empires are good?
Read the whole thread please...
*Tecam Hund sighs* Sometimes I think that autocannons talking have a much better effect.
I did and as usually you avoided answering it and every other question that could put a ***** in the validness of your ideology. But I digress, not like I expected anything else... ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.12 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi Edited by: Hoshi on 12/01/2007 12:36:26
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Hoshi But isn't that what you are trying to do? Killing the idea that empires are good?
Read the whole thread please...
I did and as usually you avoided answering it and every other question that could put a ***** in the validness of your ideology. But I digress, not like I expected anything else...
Read the whole thread, eh?
Originally by: Tecam Hund
We do not kill ideas - we change minds, however ridiculous it might seem to some shortsighted people.
My comrade answered earlier and the answer doesn't change.
To elaborate, we seek to demonstrate that ideas such as 'empire' and 'nation' have had their time. They will never die and cannot be killed; they are part of the history of human thought and must always be vigilantly guarded against even if we succeed in banishing them for a time.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Recruitment |

Tecam Hund
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.12 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi Edited by: Hoshi on 12/01/2007 12:36:26
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Hoshi But isn't that what you are trying to do? Killing the idea that empires are good?
Read the whole thread please...
*Tecam Hund sighs* Sometimes I think that autocannons talking have a much better effect.
I did and as usually you avoided answering it and every other question that could put a ***** in the validness of your ideology. But I digress, not like I expected anything else...
I answered the same exact question directly.
What kind of question is this? "Killing the idea that empires are good?" We certainly do not kill the idea "that empires are good" by killing every living person who might consider so. Spectrum of the Star Fraction is much wider, and we show the way by setting the example.
Finally there is no good or bad, and one can never operate in such absolutes.
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