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gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.07 07:10:00 - [31] Edited by: gusta on 07/01/2007 07:07:44 Originally by: sdeer Originally by: maGz We're pirates because we shoot neutrals in 0.0? The problem is that you shoot neutrals in other people's territory, and camp it. Now if this isn't piracy, what is? Piracy is killing ships that belong to others for profit, with no other motive than ganking them for their mods and thrill of the chase. So you may stop with the "there is not law" bs right here and now. Well i guess im not a pirate becuase i dont care about the loot or isk. i do it becuase i like seeing pretty blue explosions on my screen
sdeer	Posted - 2007.01.07 08:07:00 - [32] In the meantime I would like to warn everybody to treat IAC as you would treat your commonplace local pirates. Their boys are colorblind until you talk to their superiors. I think all that rum and parrots must be getting to their heads. Or perhaps it is their egoes that have flourished so much with the recent unfolding of the events.
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.01.07 08:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Arrgs Piracy doesn't exist in 0.0 Oh but it does... If you overtake a ship in unclaimed territory, destroy it, murder her captain, plunder the cargo and strip the carcass bare - all in the name of profit, what else is it an act of?... ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
herasin White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2007.01.07 14:41:00 - [34] Originally by: Gabriel Karade Originally by: Arrgs Piracy doesn't exist in 0.0 Oh but it does... If you overtake a ship in unclaimed territory, destroy it, murder her captain, plunder the cargo and strip the carcass bare - all in the name of profit, what else is it an act of?... Fun?
matty01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.07 16:01:00 - [35] man, now i got taht stupid pirate song in my head do what you want cause a pirate is free, yooou are a pirate! to early for this :( __________________________
Duke Grail Darkblade Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.07 17:43:00 - [36] What's so hard to understand... this is a warzone, anyone who was neutral left 3 weeks ago. You are either red, a scout of an enemy, a scout of a friend, or blue. we have adjusted our policy accordingly for the duration of the war. we are NBSI right now in space that we claim. "If there were more people like us... there'ed be more people like us"
Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.07 20:20:00 - [37] Hi Stephra, Thank you for your questions. Yes, it is true The Priory are a former member corp of the IAC, however I don't believe you have done much research into your question if you believe them to be a 'hauler-ganking pirate corp'. The Priory are a highly-skilled PvP corp and their alliance Shroud of Darkness is a friendly entity to IAC pilots. The reasons for this friendship are many (I would count a sense of loyalty and respect to their allies high on the list) however it was The Priory's membership and assistance during the IAC's darkest hours of Prohibition I that created the ties you speak of in your post. It was a clear sign of that respect when The Priory elected to leave IAC ranks voluntarily at the McFix departure. IAC is and always has been the firmest believer in NRDS in its claimed space and it is no secret that this policy would never fit with the desires of The Priory pilots. While our alliances practice a vastly different policy on the treatment of neutrals in 0.0, this has not detracted for the respect we have gained for each other as pilots and players. Let me also make it perfectly clear to you on our policy. IAC are one of very few alliances that maintain a peace-time policy of NRDS in their space. Our alliance was built on free-space policy, not some cheap attempt at 'neutrality' a.k.a. ISS and their 'hands off/ please dont fight on our doorstep/ its bad for business' approach. IAC claim and defend their space aggressively and in times of peace, this certainly includes the active defense of neutrals travelling through our space. This will not change. It is only on two occasions that we have had to vary that policy due to large scale conflict, and unfortunately, one of those occasions is now. I trust you will understand that in a major conflict where Outpost sovereignty and assets are threatened, the casual neutral observer will be classed as unwelcome from all parties to the conflict. Furthermore, due to the varying ownership of Outposts in the region, neutrals can't be guaranteed access to stations for market purposes. IAC leadership are committed to re-opening IAC space to neutral parties at the earliest opportunity following the resolution of this conflict. I am sure you will find that all alliances blue to IAC, SOD included, will continue to respect IAC policy of NRDS in IAC space. Once we have declared a return to this policy, please feel free to contact myself or Kaylana Syi immediately should you be attacked by any entity in IAC space and the matter will be dealt with. On a side note, I am quite happy to talk to you about capital production, though your inference regarding -A- seems to imply some sort of underhanded relationship and is quite ignorant tbh. I am sure -A- are quite capable of supplying their alliance needs, as are IAC. I hope this answers some of your questions? Feel free to convo me in-game if you have any further queries. Originally by: sdeer In the meantime I would like to warn everybody to treat IAC as you would treat your commonplace local pirates. Their boys are colorblind until you talk to their superiors. I think all that rum and parrots must be getting to their heads. Or perhaps it is their egoes that have flourished so much with the recent unfolding of the events. PWYM NB Bac Diplomat IAC
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.07 20:56:00 - [38] Would you like a biased opinion? There is no piracy in 0.0. Just politics.
Ackaroth Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.01.07 21:13:00 - [39] Edited by: Ackaroth on 07/01/2007 21:10:13 Well said, Bacilius. Props to IAC for having a damn fine diplomat who can respectfully give you the information you desire :) Doh just remembered I'm in scope. Well, that sucks, maybe he wont get this compliment. Might just have to evemail him. I need to get back in a corp fast! :)
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.08 01:04:00 - [40] Originally by: Ackaroth Edited by: Ackaroth on 07/01/2007 21:10:13 Well said, Bacilius. Props to IAC for having a damn fine diplomat who can respectfully give you the information you desire :) Doh just remembered I'm in scope. Well, that sucks, maybe he wont get this compliment. Might just have to evemail him. I need to get back in a corp fast! :) That cuts me deep. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Coby Descent ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.08 01:10:00 - [41] IAC are commendable for being one of the few alliances who run a NRDS policy most of the time, however, at a time of war, it is perfectly understandable for them to run NBSI; this risk of npc alt scouts it makes it militarily unfeasible. I also don't think IAC have ever claimed to be anti-pirate, they just don't pirate themselves. Best advise I can give you is that if you see a big blob of orange on the map, don't go there.
Ackaroth Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.01.08 01:54:00 - [42] Originally by: Kaylana Syi That cuts me deep. Not sure I understand why what I said cuts you deep...
Linavin Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.08 02:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Ackaroth Originally by: Kaylana Syi That cuts me deep. Not sure I understand why what I said cuts you deep... Pssst, Kaylana is our other diplomat ---
Ackaroth Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.01.08 02:48:00 - [44] Ah well, didnt mean to step on any toes. I just noticed that the former presented the answer well, and I commend him for his doing his job well. Many diplomats dont seem to do it all that great.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2007.01.08 03:18:00 - [45] Originally by: Coby Descent IAC are commendable for being one of the few alliances who run a NRDS policy most of the time, however, at a time of war, it is perfectly understandable for them to run NBSI; this risk of npc alt scouts it makes it militarily unfeasible. I also don't think IAC have ever claimed to be anti-pirate, they just don't pirate themselves. Best advise I can give you is that if you see a big blob of orange on the map, don't go there. Yea i've been running a noob corps alt (just not in a shuttle) round jzv for months now and not been popped once, ofc these days the alt is rarely found off the bar in g7 while nbsi is in effect, but just to back it up, all in all IAC are bang up straight in not popping any neutrals, course you have to survive the journey there first, and thats a whole different kettle of fish Originally by: Wrangler That is an outright lie! We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Bach Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2007.01.08 06:49:00 - [46] Originally by: Azzaa Is it piracy to shoot ones enemys? no. Is it piracy to be friends with pirates? no. we nbsi in our own space during wars only after then everyone who isnt hostile is welcome to come dock in out stations and buy our stuff :) If the enemy doesn't know he is your enemy....then you might be a pirate. It is NOT piracy to be friends with a pirate....thats called being an accompliss.
Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.08 08:33:00 - [47] Originally by: Bach Originally by: Azzaa Is it piracy to shoot ones enemys? no. Is it piracy to be friends with pirates? no. we nbsi in our own space during wars only after then everyone who isnt hostile is welcome to come dock in out stations and buy our stuff :) If the enemy doesn't know he is your enemy....then you might be a pirate. It is NOT piracy to be friends with a pirate....thats called being an accompliss. Spoken honestly, by the former leader of the former pirates that formerly inhabited the space now formally claimed by the Shroud of Darkness. Yes, Bach my old friend, you may be a pirate if your victim doesn't realise he is a target. However we both know the general travel rules in 0.0 space. In CC's case, tread lightly and carry a cloak No, Bach, a friendship does not an accomplice make, unless the friend is complicit in deed and design. How does the saying go? A hard friend is good to find?

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