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Zzebulon
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:15:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Drake Mezcal
If they managed to probe you out and shoot you within 2minutes of loggin off, this gives u a 15minute aggro timer from the second you were shot.
NOT
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Naskaya
Elegance
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.03 11:29:00 -
[32]
Hi,
One of my corpmates has lost a raven this morning in the same issue.
Was npcing, seeing hostiles in local, he warped out immediately, leaving behind him some wrecks, then go through some safe spots.
He never saw them in overview. He asks me if npc timer is relevant for being probed.
As I told him he got no pvp timer, he can logoff. (his ship is not fitted for pvp).
He do so, and one hour later, as he reconnects, he finds himself at the station, podkilled.
He has petitionned on this matters.
If shooting the wrecks can activate a pvp timer, i'll stop npcing until CCP correct this.
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Naskaya
Elegance
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.03 11:30:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Naskaya on 03/02/2007 11:27:51
[bug in double post - delete]
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
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Posted - 2007.02.03 11:40:00 -
[34]
I've heard of this as well.
File it under exploit, and the ask for reimbursement.
Galactic Express Recruitment Post
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.02.03 11:43:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Naskaya
He asks me if npc timer is relevant for being probed.
As I told him he got no pvp timer, he can logoff.
Can anyone confirm this? I thought NPC'ing invokes a timer too. A corpie lost a battleship to pirate - because of this i thought. Now you're saying there is no timer meaning you can actually log off and not being probeable. If that's true my corpie lost his battleship to the same exploit like 4 weeks ago.
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HottieWitAbody
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Posted - 2007.02.03 11:54:00 -
[36]
Since this has been happening for a couple weeks it's nice to see the devs are right on top of it 
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Amazoph
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.03 11:55:00 -
[37]
I just lost a dominix to this wreck exploit. Petitioned it but i doubt I'll get my ship back for ages...
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Allantia
FW Inc
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.02.03 11:57:00 -
[38]
Lost a ship + pod in exactly the same manner last night. 10 minutes between last NPC contact and loggoff, and my ship was destroyed 14 minutes after logoff (24 min after last combat/contact of any type).
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Amazoph
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:02:00 -
[39]
Addition... I filed a petition under exploits but it got moved to ships and combat which as everyone knows has a 2 month-odd queue... 
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Nev Clavain
Wise Guys
Rogue Method Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:08:00 -
[40]
Yes it is a known exploit/bug.
My opinion is the reimbursement should come out of the pocket of those who brazenly admit they are deliberately using this exploit to gain kills.
If you have chat logs of the convo/mail where the guy admits it, I'd include those in your petition.
I can understand and almost sympathise with the use of some exploits and bugs in some circumstances. This one however is just really really cheap, and needs to be stopped as soon as possible.
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:15:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Bazman
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
forgot to mention.
Cloaking device is your best friend in 0.0
not sure or not BUT!
if you cloak and then log.. I am sure u stay cloaked till you disapear from local.
thats how it worked for my alt yesterday.
That doesn't work, if you were watching your alt with your main character, what you most likely seen was a delay between logging your alt off and seeing it warp off on your main character. It usually takes like 10 seconds when I see this myself. If you log off while cloaked, your cloak will deactivate and you will warp off, same as usual.
what about covops cloak, you can warp cloaked with that, just wondreing if it works
BTW: A GOOD Cache-Cleaner |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:20:00 -
[42]
As this is an exploit, and not a loss to DC or other external causes, not only the destroyed items shuld be returned, but what was recovered from the wreck should be taken from the aggressor hangar or ship and returned to the original owner.
More fun if that will strip him of a module in the middle of combat. 
Explointing should not be condoned.
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Eternal Fury
Shadow Of The Light
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:29:00 -
[43]
This has happened to several friends of mine over the past week as well.
They've been ratting. See that hostiles jump in, safe spot. Bounce from Safe Spot to Safe Spot over and over.. See that the 2 gates are camped, and log off.
Come back 30 min later to destroyed ship and a Podding. Find out it's becuase the hostiles shot the wrecks.
I've advised them of this post.
Eternal Fury
Shadow Of The Light
.SOL.
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:30:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Liu Kaskakka on 03/02/2007 12:28:30
Originally by: Naskaya
Hi,
One of my corpmates has lost a raven this morning in the same issue.
Was npcing, seeing hostiles in local, he warped out immediately, leaving behind him some wrecks, then go through some safe spots.
He never saw them in overview. He asks me if npc timer is relevant for being probed.
As I told him he got no pvp timer, he can logoff. (his ship is not fitted for pvp).
He do so, and one hour later, as he reconnects, he finds himself at the station, podkilled.
He has petitionned on this matters.
If shooting the wrecks can activate a pvp timer, i'll stop npcing until CCP correct this.
Edit: I was bashing the above poster but I dun wanna get banned.. :'(
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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The Slayer
Caldari
The Black Rabbits
Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:32:00 -
[45]
Edited by: The Slayer on 03/02/2007 12:31:02
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
pussies
EDIT : HAH LOOK AT ME QUOTIN' YOU, ENJOY THE BAN FOO'
EDIT 2: You call him that but come up with no alternative suggestions as to what he or his corpmates should do. Fight a gank squad solo? Not everyone has a corp/alliance to back them up 24/7.
Yes eve has non-consentual pvp. But people should not be killed due to explits like this, if you catch someone feel free to kill them but cheating your way to a kill is far more dishonorable than logging off because there is a gank squad and you are pve fit.
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Luigi Thirty
Caldari
FIRMA
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Posted - 2007.02.03 12:45:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Luigi Thirty on 03/02/2007 12:48:52
Yeah! I'm gonna get my domi back anyway!
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Spix 'UK
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Posted - 2007.02.03 14:46:00 -
[47]
Originally by: MrLobster
I just reinstalled windows this very night after logging off from eve, now my eve client is telling me that i have an incorrect build (after downloading the client on the website 27912).
Is eve currently offline?? and is it because of this? the patchs page doesnt work either 
Listen ya dam HiJacker.. FO
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My Pants
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Posted - 2007.02.03 14:50:00 -
[48]
Originally by: umah
Hmmm....
Would be interesting to know if this figured in the CYVOK Titan kill.
I don't think he was ratting at the time.
@ the op - this seems to be an exploit.
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Rhaegar Targarin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.02.03 14:56:00 -
[49]
Bug has been around awhile now. Yes it works, but you have to be an idiot to log off in space. What you did was a logoffski in my mind and glad to see you podded.
They need to change it so you can only log off while in a station or player owned structure.
Rhaegar Targarin - Minmatar Combat Pilot |
Beef Hardslab
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
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Posted - 2007.02.03 15:02:00 -
[50]
Yes, this is going on, and has been for a couple weeks at least. I am not sure how exactly to fix it, but I know one way to help prevent it - SHOW THE AGGRESSION TIMER IN 0.0 CCP. I honestly don't understand why being in 0.0 makes it so I cannot tell if I have an aggression timer. Hell you get an aggression timer in Empire for NPC rats - why?
When I first heard about this neat little trick, I borrowed a tactic from the dreaded macros - my ratting ship now has a cloak and a sensor booster. If someone comes in to gank, I SS and cloak. If they feel they must hang out, I round up my own gank squad. If a gank squad is not available, I'll go watch tv or hang out with my wife and kid. They can shoot wrecks all day if they like.  Well, at least until I get a good posse rounded up hehe.
Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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Sally
Caldari
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.03 16:04:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Sally on 03/02/2007 16:01:07
Shooting at wrecks to trigger agression timer is considered an exploit and CCP useally reimburse lost ships.
P.S. We BADLY need 0.0 agression timer and safe logoff button. How hard to introduce it already???
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Fester Addams
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.02.03 16:17:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Jiekon
Please send a bug report and file an exploit petition. As far as i am aware this should not happen.
With this I think the issue is settled, if a member of the dev team feels it warants an exploit petition...
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EluThingol
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Posted - 2007.02.03 17:04:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
pussies
Nice to know you support exploits
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nickky01
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.02.03 17:05:00 -
[54]
Originally by: umah
Hmmm....
Would be interesting to know if this figured in the CYVOK Titan kill.
Don't think it was considered as a possible mechanism for resetting his timer.
Originally by: hangnoose
Yes there is currently a bug...
Person A is ratting
Person B comes in
Person A warps off/logs w/e
Person B shoots person A's wreck
Person A now has agro timer.
i'm pretty sure he wasn't out ratting
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.
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petergriffen
Amarr
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.03 17:09:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Sally
Edited by: Sally on 03/02/2007 16:01:07
Shooting at wrecks to trigger agression timer is considered an exploit and CCP useally reimburse lost ships.
P.S. We BADLY need 0.0 agression timer and safe logoff button. How hard to introduce it already???
Safe Logoff Button? There already is one in game. it's called 'docking'
The problem isn't that you can be scanned down after logging off with no aggression, the problem is that people log off in space to avoid being killed.
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Beef Hardslab
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
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Posted - 2007.02.03 17:10:00 -
[56]
Originally by: nickky01
i'm pretty sure he wasn't out ratting
I used to joke about getting a titan to rat in...
1. fly to the belts spawning all the rats
2. hop in titan and hit the DDD
3. ????????
4. profit!
Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.03 17:29:00 -
[57]
there was a thread about this weeks ago , people were saying there were using it to kill macro ratters, i cant believe ccp werent aware of the issue.
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Malicia Skirj
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Posted - 2007.02.03 19:15:00 -
[58]
Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
there was a thread about this weeks ago , people were saying there were using it to kill macro ratters, i cant believe ccp werent aware of the issue.
This IS the thread from weeks ago. It jumps from Jan 07 to Feb 03. If I recall, the OP had started another thread or two about it, also. I believe they are aware of it as devs and mods have commented in each asking for a petition to be filed.
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Par'Gellen
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2007.02.03 19:54:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Jiekon
Please send a bug report and file an exploit petition. As far as i am aware this should not happen.
Why would GM's move this from exploit to some other type of petition when Jiekon clearly tells us to file an exploit petition? Can the left hand please tell the right hand what's going on?
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.02.03 20:22:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Drake Mezcal
If they managed to probe you out and shoot you within 2minutes of loggin off, this gives u a 15minute aggro timer from the second you were shot.
Umm, rubbish
Pease refrain from commenting about matters on which you are clueless.
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