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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.05 23:40:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Caffeine Infused
Originally by: nickky01
i'm pretty sure he wasn't out ratting 
It's not just NPC wrecks that supposedly cause this bug you know...
If he was pvping he had allready an aggro timer you know... 
If the only targets he had before being poded were rats (say... at a gate for exemple) then that's another story. Shooting the wrecks to put a flag on Cyvok would be pure shame for Bob imho (this guys have the knowledge of 99.99% of the game mechanics).
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Allantia
FW Inc
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.02.10 10:12:00 -
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Has anyone successfully been reimbursedfor one of these yet? I got a reply saying that there was no way to confirm that I hadn't been in PvP or to verify where the agro came from, because that information isn't logged.
CCP, if that is in fact true, you need to take the Dev who designed the log system out and beat him. Severely.
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SteelFist
Amarr
Emperor's Fist
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Posted - 2007.02.14 14:22:00 -
[93]
the main problem i have with this is that these ... people that kill you after you logg out, are actually able to grief you.
even if your ship is reimbursted, you lose most of your gear. To much gear is left in the can, being that your logged off you cant retrieve it especially since you dont know your dead.
although i do thank ccp for replacing my ship, i had 2 modules on it.
these ... bad people were able to cost me over 200 million in fittings, never aggroed never saw them nothing... sigh
logging off in 0.0 now seems to take making sure there is no one 3 jumps around you. which is a bit silly.
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Jan Riksma
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2007.02.14 14:32:00 -
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Yeah we noticed this too. We are currently at war at we normaly logoff in space so we won't be camped in the other day. Lately we have noticed that your ship won't disapear like normaly but stay in space well over 10 minutes without having agroed anything. We now are forced to logoff in station and being risked camped in station the next day we logon. Our enemies seems to know this bug cause as soon as somebody logsoff or crashes the enemies cloakers decloak and start spamming probes.
Really wierd!
my 2 cents,
Jan
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DarkElf
Caldari
Veto. Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.14 14:57:00 -
[95]
yep that is exactly what happens. someone told me not long ago that this happened and i didn't believe them so tested it with a friend. shooting someone's wrecks before they disappear does give them a pvp timer.
btw to ppl saying the probed him out and shot him they should know that once someone has logged the pvp timer can not be activated. also u should only stay in space for 30 seconds if not aggro'd not 2 minutes so it's not possible to scan probe and kill someone really if they have no timer.
DE
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MicanG
Amarr
Dark Reality
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Posted - 2007.02.14 15:13:00 -
[96]
Edited by: MicanG on 14/02/2007 15:09:54
Edited by: MicanG on 14/02/2007 15:09:37
Originally by: DarkElf
also u should only stay in space for 30 seconds if not aggro'd not 2 minutes so it's not possible to scan probe and kill someone really if they have no timer.
DE,
Thats the whole problem. That is what is happening now. Your ship won't disapear after 30 seconds when not agroed. We tested this, ships stay in space more then 10 min orso.
tada,
Mic
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.02.14 18:06:00 -
[97]
Originally by: SteelFist
the main problem i have with this is that these ... people that kill you after you logg out, are actually able to grief you.
even if your ship is reimbursted, you lose most of your gear. To much gear is left in the can, being that your logged off you cant retrieve it especially since you dont know your dead.
although i do thank ccp for replacing my ship, i had 2 modules on it.
these ... bad people were able to cost me over 200 million in fittings, never aggroed never saw them nothing... sigh
logging off in 0.0 now seems to take making sure there is no one 3 jumps around you. which is a bit silly.
You could destroy your own wrecks you know.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.02.14 19:33:00 -
[98]
we tried to test this just last night.
corp mate found a ratting raven, raven made it to a safe. he shot a wreck. min or 2 later, the raven logged. corp mate watched scanner, and the raven disappeared after 1 min as expected for non-aggroed logoff.
corp mate did NOT destroy the wreck, just shot at it once or twice.
wreck was from same corp as raven, but in theory, could have been from a corp mate of said raven that wasnt on anymore.
its possible the bug only happens when you shot the wreck after the ratter has already logged off, but has not dissappeared yet.
I will attempt to perform some in depth tests tonight.
if you must pop the wreck before the person logs to get it to work, fix is simply having aggression timer that effects your ship disappearing when you logoff should simply be visable in 0.0.
if it also works after you logoff, then its a bug that must be fixed.
Originally by: Snuggly
It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
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ForceAttuned Krogoth
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.16 18:37:00 -
[99]
i think that D2 just lost their Titan to this bug, something needs to be done fast.
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ForceAttuned Krogoth
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.16 18:37:00 -
[100]
i think that D2 just lost their Titan to this bug, something needs to be done fast.
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ForceAttuned Krogoth
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.16 18:37:00 -
[101]
i think that D2 just lost their Titan to this bug, something needs to be done fast.
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Katamarino
Blazing Angels
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.16 19:05:00 -
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Katamarino
Blazing Angels
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.16 19:05:00 -
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Itzena
Amarr
OtakuDyne Corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.16 19:11:00 -
[104]
Yeah, it kind of negates the purpose of a Titan if your enemies can prevent it from logging off by shooting the wrecks it creates.
Just build dreads instead, and POS-zerg your enemies. Much safer.
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.02.16 19:34:00 -
[105]
Originally by: ForceAttuned Krogoth
i think that D2 just lost their Titan to this bug, something needs to be done fast.
Yeh, forum brigate is already fueling up their threadnaughts and news site cannons.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.02.16 20:15:00 -
[106]
Any news on this CCP??
What about now??
Hm...????
Now???????/
What about now?
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.16 20:42:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Ather Ialeas
Originally by: ForceAttuned Krogoth
i think that D2 just lost their Titan to this bug, something needs to be done fast.
Yeh, forum brigate is already fueling up their threadnaughts and news site cannons.
Irrespective. I'd be ****ed if I lost my Mission Raven to pirates in 0.4 due to this bug; just as I'd be ****ed if I lost my PvP Raven to another corp in 0.0 due to it.
It's been proven numerous times that this bug exists, and it's been publically shown a number of times now that this exploit exists (with a handy how-to guide).
The fact that it still exists in-game, even without an emerrgency warning from CCP, is just another thumbs-up to those who want to exploit the game.
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Lydia Browm
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.16 20:54:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Lydia Browm on 16/02/2007 20:50:55
CBA to quote but whoever said Cyvok didn't rat, heused a DDD so the enemies could have easily just shot wrecks left behind from when he killed a couple of ships so in essence he didn't know had to go waited his "time" and then logged unknown he had extra 15 mins or whatever and got killed, CCP shoudl reimburse his titan now and all the mods and refix ASCN 
Edit : If that is the case.
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RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.02.17 05:08:00 -
[109]
nope : i was there and he used his DDD shortly before logging : even if this thing was used than he would have still gotten his old agro timer
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Kamikaze Endgame
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Posted - 2007.02.17 07:27:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Rhaegar Targarin
Bug has been around awhile now. Yes it works, but you have to be an idiot to log off in space. What you did was a logoffski in my mind and glad to see you podded.
They need to change it so you can only log off while in a station or player owned structure.
Yeah... because every 0.0 system has an npc station for you to dock in; and every single corp in existence has enough isk to plant a POS in every system that they rat in. Be serious please.
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Tab'Fren
TBC
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.17 07:55:00 -
[111]
This is retarded. You shooting my wreck should give you an agression timer, not me.
And to the <person> who said you should only be able to log in stations/outposts... let me remind you that not all systems have them and we dont want yet another repeat of JV1V shenanigans. Forcing more players into a limited number of systems is bad, mm-kay?
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Morden Nok
Cohortes Vigilum
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.17 09:48:00 -
[112]
If you lose ship this way, just make an (exploit) petition. There are documented instances of low-level GM's stating "there's nothing in our logs about this", if you get this escalate. You can read whole story about one of these from scrapheapchallenge
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Allantia
FW Inc
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.02.18 10:26:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Morden Nok
If you lose ship this way, just make an (exploit) petition. There are documented instances of low-level GM's stating "there's nothing in our logs about this", if you get this escalate. You can read whole story about one of these from scrapheapchallenge
Link is broken. I would like to see it.
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