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Aaron
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Posted - 2007.01.07 00:45:00 -
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Hi
I just lost a raven,
I was ratting and i saw 6 known hostiles come into system, i warped between safe spots for a few minutes then I logged off, I definatly knew i was not aggro'ed.
I logged back in and found my ship and pod had been destroyed. i logged off @ 21:59, my ship was destroyed @ 22:07 so the 2 minute timer does not apply here.
Upon speaking to the killer he said he shot at the wreckage I left behind from NPC'ing to aggro me, I logged off with the belief that i wasnt aggro'ed,
Has anyone heard of this? or seen any threads relating to this tactic?
I think players need to be made fully aware that they are aggro'ed. I feel this is an exploit that need to be addressed asap.
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Sul Sonic
Caldari
Mining Bytes Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 00:47:00 -
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Shooting wreckage hardly seems like aggression.
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Aaron
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Posted - 2007.01.07 00:49:00 -
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based on the fact that i have reviewed that seems to be the case.
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Drake Mezcal
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.07 00:56:00 -
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If they managed to probe you out and shoot you within 2minutes of loggin off, this gives u a 15minute aggro timer from the second you were shot.
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Lord Slater
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.07 00:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Drake Mezcal
If they managed to probe you out and shoot you within 2minutes of loggin off, this gives u a 15minute aggro timer from the second you were shot.
I think you need to read the OP's post one of the agressors shot a npc wreck that belonged to the victim.
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Heather Maidla
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Posted - 2007.01.07 02:20:00 -
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Nice to know Rapid Motion support logoffski!
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
Therianthropic Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.07 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Heather Maidla
Nice to know Rapid Motion support logoffski!
That wasn't a "logoffski".
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Kunming
Amarr
Outcasts
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Posted - 2007.01.07 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
Originally by: Heather Maidla
Nice to know Rapid Motion support logoffski!
That wasn't a "logoffski".
Yeah hardly a "logoffski"..
Has anyone tested this btw? (too tired and drunk to log on atm )
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Dark Entropy
Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 04:26:00 -
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that must be boarder line exliot! if not it is one
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.07 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
that must be boarder line exliot! if not it is one
If shooting the wreckage gives aggression then yes, that's an exploit.
I also know that having somebody die to your POS will give you agression for some obscure reason.
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Paladineguru
Gallente
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.07 04:29:00 -
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Edited by: Paladineguru on 07/01/2007 04:25:20
i havnt tested it but it makes sense due to the flagging system in place to stop ore thieves
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MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.07 04:41:00 -
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I just reinstalled windows this very night after logging off from eve, now my eve client is telling me that i have an incorrect build (after downloading the client on the website 27912).
Is eve currently offline?? and is it because of this? the patchs page doesnt work either 
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.01.07 05:21:00 -
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nice hijack.... you can find alternate patches (for your client,too) if you click my sig
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Domalais
Equilibrium LLC
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.07 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Mezcal
If they managed to probe you out and shoot you within 2minutes of loggin off, this gives u a 15minute aggro timer from the second you were shot.
No, it doesn't. If you are aggroed after you log w/o aggro timer, you will disappear after 2 minutes no matter how much you are shot.
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hangnoose
Caldari
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.07 09:10:00 -
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Yes there is currently a bug...
Person A is ratting
Person B comes in
Person A warps off/logs w/e
Person B shoots person A's wreck
Person A now has agro timer.
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Devil Hanzo
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.07 10:20:00 -
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Please bug report this. There was a similar post yesterday too, with a guy losing a Raven after he logged off with no aggro timer. I think you might be on to something.
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Aaron
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Heather Maidla
Nice to know Rapid Motion support logoffski!
Come on heather lets be realistic here!! How on earth can I take on 6 ships fitted with a PVP setup, In my raven setup for NPC'ing. Just like in real life you would not fight a group of people if your on your own, u would try and walk away,
If I try to take on these guys i die, If i try and log off i am a coward, I cant win with you ganksters,
You sound like one of those players that would take on 1 pilot with about 50 ships. IMPOSSIBLE ODDS.
I think the programmers should look at this seriously, they should make sure that players know they are aggro'ed and if the odds are silly then the person should not be aggro'ed.
I happy that this looks like a possible expliot so it means i may be reimbursed.
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zaqq
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:59:00 -
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again, another exploit in use by so called pvpers, i rest my case.
pirates obviously cannot grasp the concept of simply moving on to another system and search for another target.
you are in effect helping to kill off pvp by abusing the system.
your choice. make the call
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Ander
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.07 12:09:00 -
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Shao Daar
United Alliance
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.01.07 12:15:00 -
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I'd just like to poin out that the OP didn't use "logoffski".
He warped between safespots, and then disconnected. His enemies didn't find him / didn't engage (whole exploit / bug aside).
IF they had found him, and he'd log off THEN (when seeign them on his bugged overview  ), THAT would have been a clear "logoffski".
And it IS a lame tactic, to be sure. Just as lame as trying to probe out smaller ships that log off at a POS (tho I'm not sure if this is still possible).
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2007.01.07 12:29:00 -
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Please send a bug report and file an exploit petition. As far as i am aware this should not happen.
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MindBender
Acheron Vanguard Armada
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.01.07 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: MindBender on 07/01/2007 12:33:33
And so say we all.
Wait... anyhow, Jiekon has spoken, hope you already put in an Exploit ticket. That would have been my first step. Make sure to link this thread in the ticket, GMs like all the data possible.
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 12:46:00 -
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When you are NPCing, you have an aggression timer already started. As long as you have this timer, you can be probed, AFAIK.
Suppose you just got unlucky.
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.01.07 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
When you are NPCing, you have an aggression timer already started. As long as you have this timer, you can be probed, AFAIK.
Suppose you just got unlucky.
The npc aggro timer is supposed to be much shorter, 5min at most. Both before and after logging.
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Kaar
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.07 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum
When you are NPCing, you have an aggression timer already started. As long as you have this timer, you can be probed, AFAIK.
Suppose you just got unlucky.
The npc aggro timer is supposed to be much shorter, 5min at most. Both before and after logging.
Huh? What? No.
NPC aggression doesnt affect your log off timer.
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Dark Entropy
Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 14:34:00 -
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forgot to mention.
Cloaking device is your best friend in 0.0
not sure or not BUT!
if you cloak and then log.. I am sure u stay cloaked till you disapear from local.
thats how it worked for my alt yesterday.
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deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.01.07 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: deathforge on 07/01/2007 14:37:26
Originally by: Sul Sonic
Shooting wreckage hardly seems like aggression.
Does firing on a wreck/can that is not of your corp in high sec not invoke concord? I could have sworn it did, but I'm not allowed in high sec these days.
If its enough to bring concord, I'd have to guess its treated as pvp in the eyes of the logoffski timer, even if its your own just as firing on a corp mate starts your logoffski timer.
Then again, I don't make a habbit of logging off to avoid conflicts, so I'm not entirely clear on the mechanics.
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Bazman
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.07 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
forgot to mention.
Cloaking device is your best friend in 0.0
not sure or not BUT!
if you cloak and then log.. I am sure u stay cloaked till you disapear from local.
thats how it worked for my alt yesterday.
That doesn't work, if you were watching your alt with your main character, what you most likely seen was a delay between logging your alt off and seeing it warp off on your main character. It usually takes like 10 seconds when I see this myself. If you log off while cloaked, your cloak will deactivate and you will warp off, same as usual.
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Kunming
Amarr
Outcasts
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Posted - 2007.01.07 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
forgot to mention.
Cloaking device is your best friend in 0.0
not sure or not BUT!
if you cloak and then log.. I am sure u stay cloaked till you disapear from local.
thats how it worked for my alt yesterday.
That doesn't work, if you were watching your alt with your main character, what you most likely seen was a delay between logging your alt off and seeing it warp off on your main character. It usually takes like 10 seconds when I see this myself. If you log off while cloaked, your cloak will deactivate and you will warp off, same as usual.
Not only cloak, all mods will deactivate, unless its a disconnect, in which case your mods might be still active and your drones still fighting out there if you make a quick reconnect.
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umah
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:56:00 -
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Hmmm....
Would be interesting to know if this figured in the CYVOK Titan kill.
Don't think it was considered as a possible mechanism for resetting his timer.
Originally by: hangnoose
Yes there is currently a bug...
Person A is ratting
Person B comes in
Person A warps off/logs w/e
Person B shoots person A's wreck
Person A now has agro timer.
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