This is the intended mechanic and it should work that way. If you can be patient until tomorrow I should have a definite answer for you all

It sucks that those who have an extra remap saved benefit a lot more from this than those who don't have any saved. If you already have a remap saved you'll get a second one saved. So you can remap for 6 months or whatever and then switch back. If a character has no remaps but one would be available in a month he gets absolutely no benefit from this.

This extra remap should always add a new remap and the old one's timer should continue counting down. Then it would be fair for every character.

Also wanting to know the answer to this question.

I currently have 1 remap available. If I choose the remap holiday gift, will I then have 2 remaps available?

Then counter would count if you have remap and every year you would get remap even if you have one (or two/three/four) = chars with ****-loads of remaps.

It sucks that those who have an extra remap saved benefit a lot more from this than those who don't have any saved. If you already have a remap saved you'll get a second one saved. So you can remap for 6 months or whatever and then switch back. If a character has no remaps but one would be available in a month he gets absolutely no benefit from this.

This extra remap should always add a new remap and the old one's timer should continue counting down. Then it would be fair for every character.

How many remaps have we been given so far in total?
In the Attributes tab under "Neural Remap Available" it says "Now", which a corpmate told me meant that I have one left. But ive been in eve since remap got introduced, and only used one just in the beginning.

It sucks that those who have an extra remap saved benefit a lot more from this than those who don't have any saved. If you already have a remap saved you'll get a second one saved. So you can remap for 6 months or whatever and then switch back. If a character has no remaps but one would be available in a month he gets absolutely no benefit from this.

This extra remap should always add a new remap and the old one's timer should continue counting down. Then it would be fair for every character.

I'm not sure I understand the objection here. What does it matter if you have some or none before selecting this gift? If i have none now, I select the gift, get the remap, now I have 1. A month from now my anniversary comes and I get another remap, now I have two. If I just had my anniversary yesterday, I now have 1. If I select the gift, I will then have two.

Am I missing something here?

HI guys. Is there any info on how long the chosen gift will be available for collection?

Thanks in advance.

-CJ

It's not based on anniversaries: it's based on time-since-final-remap-used. This is important because new characters get 2 remaps, but the third one won't show until a full year after using the second remap.

In previous remap givaways, the new remap killed that one year timer, so if you are going to get a new remap in, say, january, you may as well pick a destroyer you like the look of.

Tried to find out for you guys, My next Neural remap isn't available until 7/23/2012, so I selected Neural Surgery and pressed Continue only to tell me the items wouldn't be redeemable until 12/22/2011.

This extra remap should always add a new remap and the old one's timer should continue counting down. Then it would be fair for every character.

Is it a remap per character on the account?

I preferred your original response...it was more from the heart!

I have remap in about 1 month so I hope it will add remap instead of just reset timer. Was sort of mad last time I got screwed with the free remap.

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

No free remaps! Its a yearly consequential of planning in advance and just going with it from there. You shouldn't have the option to randomly change your skill whenever you want.

/end troll

No one wants CCP to allow the charging of a remap with PLEX. But its ok if its given away for free AND its not for changing an existing mechanic (learning skills). And no one is complaining?

Bunch of f*cking hypocrites.

If you don't like the free remap you are free to choose something else. People rage about the dumbest things...

This is the intended mechanic and it should work that way. If you can be patient until tomorrow I should have a definite answer for you all

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

No free remaps! Its a yearly consequential of planning in advance and just going with it from there. You shouldn't have the option to randomly change your skill whenever you want.

/end troll

No one wants CCP to allow the charging of a remap with PLEX. But its ok if its given away for free AND its not for changing an existing mechanic (learning skills). And no one is complaining?

Bunch of f*cking hypocrites.

The remap gift is being looked into, we should have news for you shortly. Thank you for your patience!

The remap gift is being looked into, we should have news for you shortly. Thank you for your patience!

My neural remap is available again at 2011.12.22, and the present is said to be given in 22. of december. So i wonder, if i choose free remap - would i get 2 of them at 2011.12.22, or would it just reset the timer on the current one, leaving me with one remap available at 2011.12.22?

Thanks for being clear, admitting that you don't know and getting back to get the facts.

I for one sure like this kind of corporate communication;)

The remap gift is being looked into, we should have news for you shortly. Thank you for your patience!

Confirming remap has currently been removed from the list of options...

Confirming remap has currently been removed from the list of options...

Ugh, well this is going to get ugly.

If the remap is added back but is morphed into a remap timer reset, people will get cranky.

If the removal is permanent, people will get cranky. People will then whine about aurum being the only 'logical' choice thus prompting people to replay the Nex store/Incarna drama, or how the free blocks crash the market, or how some gifts are more valuable, etc., and they will flood the forums with their righteous indignation.

If the remap is added back as a proper 2nd remap, then people who already selected their gift will need to be reset, which will result in petitions by people who got the "wrong" gift because they were unaware of the reset or weren't able to log back in to re-select their gift which then requires the already busy CCP brain trust to formulate a clear, formal policy on gift "resets/refunds" and have that policy implemented consistently by all GMs, which simply means that General Discussion will be filled with countless threads by a small but vocal group of players angry about getting screwed on the Christmas Gift.

tl;dr - CCP should have gotten feedback before going live with the gift list.

tl;dr;P.S. - CCP should know by now that most Eve players prefer and affiliate more with the pre-change-of-heart Grinch.

tl;dr;P.P.S. - Nothing is free. Even free gifts have a price and unintended consequences.

as a noob, i screwed up my first remap
so i had to use my 2nd remap

eve's learning curve is steep, my 2nd remap was a fairly even mapping. now that i know enough of the game it'd be nice to have another remap which i can use to properly plan my future as a pilot.

merry christmas?

the 1 thing that actually had high value, because you cant buy it in game, can no longer be chosen.

i would like to see the remap returned. though i dont really need it since i planned far far ahead for what i need, it gives me the option to do something i normally wouldnt do, like " waste" a remap for a full charisma setup to get leadership skills up

the other reason is that the rest simply isnt interesting. the destroyer stuff....i cant even remember last time i used one, and no, thats not a reason to try now. its nice if youre brand new, but an older player, even if just a year, wont have much use.

outliers: again, nice, but i got em all from previous years. theyre nice as collectors items, but lack any use what so ever.

implants: the ga-1 i recently got for free, thank you very much. on all my accounts as well. a +3 set....nice if youre new, but i always use +4 sets as near everyone i play with does, so no use (and yes, i live in 0sec).

fuels: when the bpo's were released we bought them by the dozens. its a nice gift if i had known in advance, now its pointless. and the fuelblocks....its enough for a day...i mean....seriously

aurum: dont care

faction ammo: kinda nice, but very low amount and many of the types you never use anyway.

drugs and quafe: kinda nice, though i still have the original quafe. i suppose ill go for the boosters

i know this sounds like whining, and maybe it is. however my main point is that in previous years we got something new, something kinda cool the 1st time. now we just get stuff we can already buy, and the value is very very low for a player that is more then a few months old. the 1 thing that actually had high value, because you cant buy it in game, can no longer be chosen.

You're seriously complaining that your free gift isn't good enough?

You're seriously complaining that your free gift isn't good enough?

It was the true gift.

Since it could neither be bought nor sold, it actually did not have any value. There was no pricetag.

If you believe "value" and "financial value" are equivalent in meaning, I suspect you're confused about what one of the words involved actually means, in this case, most likely "value". Something can be quite valuable while having no financial value. Absent the qualifier, "value" has a much more generalized meaning that is often closer to "usefulness" than "price", although even "useless" items (for practical purposes) often have great value. "Value" is a very broad word. "Financial value" is much smaller and narrower in meaning.

hint : snowballs.

but in the end its all about money, thats why the world is so sad place to live.

You're seriously complaining that your free gift isn't good enough?

The remap gift is being looked into, we should have news for you shortly. Thank you for your patience!

Please make it so it's a "extra" remap.. Mine is also due to reset the 2nd of February so the gifted one wouldn't really do much for me. It's a nice gift but sadly wont help a lot of us that have remaps set to come up soon. However if it stacked it would help quite a bit as I could slip in some extra skills.

"Really? I gave you 22 options for something free, and that's still not good enough?! ."

There's actually a guy who wanted CCP to get community feedback before offering the gifts. Seriously?

They're gifts, yes. But look at it from the Marketing standpoint, they're product enhancements to encourage new subscriptions and maintain existing ones.

So it's common sense that they would be interested in knowing the most well received "gifts".

Or maybe they are just gifts. You know. World is as difficult or as easy as you chose to perceive.

Gifts usually have a motive to them - even if it's a positive one. Human nature.

They're gifts, yes. But look at it from the Marketing standpoint, they're product enhancements to encourage new subscriptions and maintain existing ones.

So it's common sense that they would be interested in knowing the most well received "gifts".

Well then we wouldnt have the current problem with the remap.

People who wanted it and picked it without knowing exactly how it worked. Pissed.

People who wanted it and waited to find out how it worked. Pissed.

People who wanted it but had some idea of how it worked so picked something else. Pissed.

lol ccp puts out gift, has no idea how it works.

wow... braindead anyone?

And the the remap is back! Merry christmas everyone.

Hmm, that's good news... Unfortunately I seem to be getting a little confused with all of that. So it basically counts "like an extra remap"? So I have 1 remap and plan to remap early next year some time for a few months. This "bonus remap" could then remap say mid next year? Just like another remap?

Sorry

What does this mean for you when you use a Bonus Remap after this change?

You can be two weeks from your next remap or six months past it and still use your Bonus Remap to best suit your skill training plan without affecting your remap timer. Basically it gives you the flexibility of choice and planning that you would rightfully expect from owning an extra Bonus remap.

Just wondering... if it took only 24h to fix the problem this time, why wasn't it fixed last year when they handed them out, rolled back and handed them out again over the space of a week?