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KIAEddZ	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:47:00 - [1] Sooooooo. As some of you know, if you read my post the other day, my account was hacked, and about 150 million of assets was taken/destroyed. :( The gms sorted this (although the new Raven I have needs the insurance my old one had please meester GM) The very next night (2 days ago) far worse happened. But it would seem, at the same time as getting my password, they also managed to get the password for KIAGumpys account, one of our production/refining accounts used by me and the directors only. This account had access to all 7 Corp hangars. So I can only assume the same people that hacked my account originally, gave out the pass to someone whos account wasnt banned, and these people, logged in as gumpy, took EVERYTHING of any value that KIA owned (Minerals, blueprints, expensive and many many rare items, in fact cleaned out hangars 2-7, leaving only the low end loot in hangar 1), put it into haulers that we also built and owned, took it ouside the station, and blew it all up. Must of taken them quite some time. Well over 3 billion in assets gone, aswell as many ships (basically whatever they could find to destroy that would hurt us), and just as importantly, KIAGumpy now has virtually bugger all skill points (used to be 3+ million, on all the important to corp skills), due to the maliciousness of these people. This was and is a personal attack on KIA? Why? We really honestly don't have a clue, we played this game honourably, enjoyed oursleves, and havent ever done anything to **** people off to this magnitude, so we thought. What does this mean for KIA? Well we are in the hands, as is our subscriptions, of the gms. If we cannot get back what we have lost, it will be the end of KIA as we know it now, certainly we will lose 4/5 of our members on principal alone, with only a couple staying on maybe in another corp. This is a very very sad week for us, and for us completely and totally gutting. Nothing more can be said other than this is an unprovoked attack, on a corp that imho didnt deserve anything of this sort, i hope it is personal based, and not because of our personas in game, and what we have done for the NVA etc. Because if it is game based, that would just be plain ridicululous. To those involvedin these actions, and we now think its very likely to be a small group of people that shared this pass around, congratulations, You may get your wish, but tbh you are nothing but pathetic. If anyone knows ANYTHING about this, please contact me in game, or on my email [email protected], with complete and total confidentiality of course. Financial rewards for information (real or ingame), are not out of the question if it leads to answers to how this has happened. Rgds Peter Edwards - KIAEddZ - CEO KIA Corp. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Ariell Lucinwind	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:53:00 - [2] ..............<<speechless>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Came back cause I love you guys :P
Miso	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:53:00 - [3] This is absolutely ridiculous. Im very sorry to hear about this. I thought we'd hit the bottom with the last hack, but this really does take the biscuit. Good luck getting your stuff back, and I hope CCP sort this out fast. Miso x -------------------------------------------- Dead
Braccas	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:54:00 - [4] I really feel for you. But...did at any time came to your mind that MAYBE someone of your own folks could have done this?
Temujin Destovai	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:54:00 - [5] Ouch guys, this is really so low its undescribable. Whoever did this is infact a pityful individual who shouldnt be playing this game. I hope the GMs help KIA recover these assets so that you guys can get under way again asap. Im just confused as why you didnt change your password after the inital hack :o The Chronicles of Xanadu
Wren	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:55:00 - [6] News like this just makes me feel sick inside. I am out of words to describe how disgusted I am for people who would do this. --------------------------------------------------
Jexter	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:59:00 - [7] This is so sad, leaves us Jokers speechless. Hopefully the GMs will refund you completely, I cannot see why they shouldn't. By logging the IPs they should see that the person that blew up all your stuff is a different one from the original owner of the account. In the case they won't you can count on the Jokers help to get back on track guys, with the little that we can do (on OOC basis of course) Regards,
Toulak	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:59:00 - [8] This is ludicrous, theres some real sad gits about, all over a game.. I hope your happy whoever done this, cause uve just ****** up several peoples game, for what? CCP do the right thing and help em again, give their stuff back because no way in hell do KIA deserved this, and I hope you find out who done it and ban the folk permantly. Regards Toulak
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:03:00 - [9] ????
Avirex II	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:06:00 - [10] This is sad... I'm really sorry, K.I.A. is one of the most honest corps I've dealt with. I hope that whoever is responsible for this lame and absurd attack will suffer heavy consequences... I have no other words for this.. ---------------------- Avirex II Jokers Corp
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:10:00 - [11] i have much respect for kia. i hope you dont give up. find the fgts who did this, and sue the f out of them, oog.
Nicholas Marshal	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:10:00 - [12] I think CCP will do the right thing in this case. At the least, KIA should have all their items returned.
Toastmaster	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:10:00 - [13] You should really do something about that trojan you got that sends the passwords to them "viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:11:00 - [14] People should be banned from _every_ online game if they were caught on hacking an account. Also i hope CCP sends an email to there providers abuse department. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Renox	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:13:00 - [15] This is as low as it gets. KIA corp are as honest as they come. I hope whoever did this get's caught and prosecuted for hacking. " While Celestial Apoc is filled with smack talking, safespot hugging, gate cudling, empire war exploiting
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:17:00 - [16] Braccas KIA arent your normal Corp. We are all Real Life friends, most of us live very close, and we all see each other very reguarly, at lans etc. Most of the guys in my corp I have known for 4 years +, and would trust em with my sister let alone a few online assets. And the previous hacker was proven to be a member of a well known pirate corp, and his account was banned, he obviously has friends who also play this game though. ; Temujin. All Main character accounts were changed instantly, but Gumpys was forgotten, to our detrement, as hes only ever used to produce refine and haul for the corp, and his "owner" (KIAInkz) hasnt been online much for a few days, otherwise he would of been changed already had it occurred to us. A Mistake yes, a very very regrettable one, but i somehow get the feeling that this wouldnt of stopped the people that want us gone, for whatever the reasons are, they would of just hacked another account. I can only assume they either have a random pass generator or are getting isnside info from 1 of a couple of sources: us (unthinkable tbh, but still a possibilty) Gms(?) length Password type Avg. time to ***** on 1.2 GHz PC Code:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- any english word 0.03 seconds any english word with digit appended or prepended 0.66 seconds 7 random digits 3.3 seconds 5 random lower case letters 4 seconds 5 random lower case letters/digits 20 seconds 5 random mixed case letters/digits 5 minutes 6 random mixed case letters/digits 5 hours 7 random mixed case letters/digits 14 days 8 random mixed case letters/digits 2.3 years 8 random letters/digits/punctuation 70 years 10 random letters/digits/punctuation 600 000 years -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obviously times may be different to the above if ccp do login throttling, and taking bandwidth into account... They didnt take/sell/hide/stash/give away the stuff we had, they just took it into space, and blew it all up. Crazy or malicous, either way, very gutting. ;( ;( http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Indigo Seqi	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:20:00 - [17] What the ****? I would so like to resort to physical solutions when encountering this loser in RL. And I don't friggin care if this is an RL threat. godieplzthxkkbye
Varia	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:21:00 - [18] Sorry hear that, I hope it get solved for you. On the subject of hacking, I decided to upgrade my firewall/antivirus software this weekend. Installed/patched and ran a full scannedààöWarning Trojan backdoor virus detectedö OMG, well just a warning for you all and I thought I was pretty safe, well I was wrong. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition.
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:28:00 - [19] "Crazy or malicous, either way, very gutting. ;( ;(" ... Redefining the limits of human stupidity, imo. Really hope CCP acts as swift about this one as they did the last time. :/
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:29:00 - [20] tmaster, all of our PCs were checked for Trojans and key Loggers the moment the first hack attack on my account happened. And many of us are behind hardware firewalls. We ahve had NO success locating the source of these peoples information. This is inherently our problem ;( If we could find them Homo, trust us, we wouldnt take this lying down. As for CCP, no decision has been made yet, it has been passed to a senior GM 2 days ago, for further investigation. We really hope for some resolution soon. And an answer to as how this is happeneing would be really good. These people have broken the law, banning their accounts is not enough in my corps opinion, we would like to see it go much further than that (assuming CCP are willing to help us with the ip addresses of the people responsible etc). http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Braccas	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:32:00 - [21] Edited by: Braccas on 02/12/2003 11:35:23 KIAEddZ - I get your point, couldn¦t know the details. I¦m lucky to have almost similar circumstances, so no offense m8. I just wanted to make sure you considered it. And still: "I can only assume they either have a random pass generator or are getting isnside info from 1 of a couple of sources: us (unthinkable tbh, but still a possibilty)"
Miso	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:33:00 - [22] TBH, this has now entered the realms of prosecution. CCP need to hand over all IP addresses to the police and KIA should think about legal action against the perpetrators. -------------------------------------------- Dead
Thrak	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:38:00 - [23] To put it simply, it was most likely the actions of the same guy who did the original hack. If not by him then initiated by him. Hacker-esque peeps are ridiculously proud little individuals, and getting him banned will have hurt his pathetic ego. So now he just goes and proves how sad he REALLY is
Karol Kei	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:43:00 - [24] Edited by: Karol Kei on 02/12/2003 11:54:12 This is just sad in so many senses. I am very sorry for your you. [snipped]Some info you apparently already have. Good luck.[/snipped] Again, I am sorry for your troubles, nonetheless.
toccz	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:44:00 - [25] Hope CCP can solve this for you, I really want KIA Corp in Eve!
SirMolle	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:56:00 - [26] First of all, for KIA, respect. You play the game as it should be played, and you do it with lots of guts and glory. Secondly, i do believe CCP will track this down, and "fix it". That is my belief. Thirdly, if they can't fix it, come speak to me. I refuse to let KIA disappear due to something this lame. Forthly, whoever did this, needs to be dragged out into the street, naked, and then dragged after a car for 2 miles. 'nuff said.
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2003.12.02 12:02:00 - [27] This is disgraceful and should never happen. I hope you get your stuff back and I hope the guy that did this gets leprosy and loses his fingers. ----------- "Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!" Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI I have a blog
Jarjar	Posted - 2003.12.02 12:07:00 - [28] Damn, this is sad. KIA seems to be such a nice corp, IC and OOC. I condider scamming in-game lame but acceptable, but doing it this way is nothing but disgraceful and sick. I hope you get your stuff back, it'd truly suck to see you all leave.
darth solo	Posted - 2003.12.02 12:16:00 - [29] If any of the Gms are looking at this post, which i really do think they should b. Heres what should happen. A. they should replace all the items that were stolen and destroyed, i think we can trust KIA corp not to lie. B. The skill points should b replaced. C. CCP should take it further, hacking is a criminal act. D. they should give us all the address of the card holder, then anyone close to them can visit their house and kick the absolute crap out of them. Ok, maybe not D, but if it means keeping these guys playing our game, CCP should give in to all their requests, we need guys like this playing the game. it will only b a lesser game without them, CCP sort it out now please, or ill pod ya all, grrrrrr.
Mutara Nebula	Posted - 2003.12.02 12:23:00 - [30] Just one thought: people acting this way should deserve a nice, lenghty beating. Irl of course. I'd love to see them trying to hack someone with their arms broken. *********************************************************************************** LOL @ The game leaves ample room for continual progress and variety in all its solo* playing aspects.* ***********************************************************************************

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