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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:01:15 -
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On November 25th we have deployed an update to the beta launcher. If you haven't heard about this new EVE Launcher before, please check out the dev blog.
If you have already installed the beta launcher it should update itself automatically - otherwise you can install the latest version: * Windows (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-984818.exe) * Mac (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-984818.dmg)
The update has the following changes, fixes and additions: - Better handling of file errors, offering to fix permissions - Added network diagnostics to help track down network issues - Added support for translations (text is not fully translated yet) - Added an option to minimize to tray - Prevent multiple instances of the launcher - Added an option to force the client to use DX9 - Improved the logging window - Server list and process views are now a standalone windows - Settings folders for clients no longer have the server ip numbers in their name - Fixed issue with download everything stalling
Changes to the UI include: - New design - Server status information updates more frequently - MOTD icon button and notifications moved to upper right corner - Added patch notes link - Rearranged buttons based on user feedback - EULA buttons no longer disappear under ads
We welcome you to check out this new beta EVE Launcher and let us know what you think!
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer - Volunteer Manager
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
805
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:02:07 -
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Known issues: - Pasting into the password field doesn't work on the Mac
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Lisa Nardieu
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
2
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:13:54 -
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CCP Phantom wrote: Changes to the UI include: - Added patch notes link
thank you so much for this. |
Kronossan
Bellum Esca
53
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:17:43 -
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Just saw the update come in as I opened the launcher, very nice.
Perhaps make the background image a bit darker to create more contrast between it and the account selection and banner ads? |
Lady Aesir
Ghost Recon Inc
20
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:21:05 -
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What can I say.
WOW the new launcher looks very nice a lot of improvements. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
918
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Posted - 2015.11.25 13:33:45 -
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2 items
1) Norton yanked it for high disk activity 2) Uses way too much screen real estate. Could easily be half the size. |
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CCP Maxwell
C C P C C P Alliance
82
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:01:11 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:2 items
1) Norton yanked it for high disk activity 2) Uses way too much screen real estate. Could easily be half the size.
Is it possible to white-list the launcher in the Norton application? We have already contacted Norton about white-listing the launcher, but that may only have worked for that particular version of the launcher.
CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB
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Chino Saisima
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:02:12 -
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A few things came to mind:
- you have so much space, yet the central panel and especially the buttons are so small, the checkboxes in the older version where much better than those switches, same goes for the "launch triangle". its just too small on a highres monitor.
- it'd be far more convenient to plug the "Logout" button within the "launchbox" on the bottom right side and put the "add account" button in the middle or bottom left side.
- while the green bar is nice, make it bigger, i barely noticed it. yet you could also put a green "running" in the line of the respective running client. again, more than half of the space in the window is wasted.
- furthermore, maybe plug the ad-banners on top and move the newsfeed to the bottom (left, middle) as it overlaps with the "bug report" button on its current position.
- for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
- a (more visible?) option for clearing the client cache would be great,as its currently implemented in the regular launcher
thanks for working on it, i like it way more than the regular launcher! |
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising Decayed Orbit
119
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:02:45 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:1) Norton yanked it for high disk activity
well updating and checking files needs disk activity...
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Airi Cho
Dark-Rising Decayed Orbit
119
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:05:50 -
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the little eve icon menu is fun. |
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Lair Osen
107
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:18:11 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:2 items
2) Uses way too much screen real estate. Could easily be half the size.
You know you can resize it right? |
Maja Chou
Ausweichcorp 3
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:20:39 -
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i would think put the MOTD button in the new sidebar left and not next to the close button would be better or even move it to the same Position and type as Feedback and Bug Report is
we have to import client settings again from our old user ordner ( in my case some junktion link ordner for multiple clients) because we cant divide the collected settings from old beta launcher ordner to all Clients sometime i would like to see the launcher do this without human help
1. Can we now install the launcher in an ordnerstructure like F:\Eve & Co\Launcher next to our Eve installation in F:\Eve & Co\Eve Online (and shared Cache and Tools)
2. Can we pls move settings ordner from user to an place we like? (like my Structure above)
3. I dont know who think a touch GUI is allways better^^ but i DONT like the new "Switches" to show witch client is selceted for multistart or even not. I think just checkboxes was realy fine for this and show all we needet (yea maybee oldscool design but it work well and who Play Eve on a Touchscreen?)
4. BUT i would like to see maybee 4 little checkboxes there in a square to set up multiple "Play selected" configurations same checkbox next to the Play Selected button could switch between the choosen one there
5.Mousover of Settings wheel could bring up the Information witch Profile is selected without have to click to see it. i understand there is not enough space to show profilename there (i would preferr)
6.last one: whats the function of the launcher butten in sidebar ?
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Diamond Hunter01
Great White North Productions Alternate Allegiance
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:25:11 -
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I'll tell you I am getting fed up of resetting everything each time you patch. |
Snooowi
Snowlodoto
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:25:14 -
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Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher?
Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? |
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CCP Avalon
C C P C C P Alliance
132
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:27:15 -
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Snooowi wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher? Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool.
The following information should help in recovering these settings.
For Windows users (7 and up):
* Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
CCP Avalon // Web Developer // Team Webster // @ccp_avalon
Twitch: CCP_Avalon
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Snooowi
Snowlodoto
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:37:12 -
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CCP Avalon wrote: This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool.
The following information should help in recovering these settings.
For Windows users (7 and up):
* Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
Worked, thanks!
Maybe they didn't copy over correctly because I had clients running when the update happened or something? |
Valerius Marcus
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 14:55:23 -
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I really like this for the most part, it's pretty visually pleasing. However there are just a couple of things that are pretty visually jarring.
I love the background image. Very dynamic and action-y, but having my account selection right suddenly 'appear' right in the middle of the Rifter while your eyes sweep the image is kinda sudden. Any chance for some transparency on the account list or some other way to smooth that?
And while I understand the need to sell stuff to people who are already your customers, the two current advertisements, the Amarr "Veil of Victory" and the "Preparation is Half the Victory" are really such a stark contrast. It gives the impression of someone slapping some stickers onto a screen.
I'm no design guy, but a suggestion is to make the launcher like a view screen or status display. The adds can be integrated into little windows resembling mini or status displays, and some sort of smoothing or new font or such on the account list to better enjoy that awesome view. The links on the left for Account, Support, Settings, and Patch Notes could be styled into 'activation buttons' of some sort
Major kudos for the patch notes link as well. I always hit that when I noticed my client was pulling an update.
I hope this feedback is useful. |
Sgt Ocker
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
777
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:03:20 -
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CCP Avalon wrote:Snooowi wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher? Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool. The following information should help in recovering these settings. For Windows users (7 and up): * Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher Thank you.
Are these changes (moving settings folders) likely to persist after the next launcher update, or will this process need to be repeated?
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Why can't CCP see the obvious - Large dominating groups are bad for Eve.
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Makhar
Independent Miners Guild Care Factor
14
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:27:17 -
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Suggestion / feature request:
- possible to have an 'autolaunch' checkbox? So we don't need to wait for it to finish patching or whatever just tick the box and then once the client is 'ready' it will launch itself?
_ I tried real-life once. -áThe graphics suck._
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Stefan Silviu
Knowledge is Money - Money is Power
15
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:37:18 -
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FFS ALL SETTINGS LOST |
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CCP Avalon
C C P C C P Alliance
132
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:43:58 -
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Stefan Silviu wrote: FFS ALL SETTINGS LOST
Instructions on how to recover the client settings: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6187370#post6187370
CCP Avalon // Web Developer // Team Webster // @ccp_avalon
Twitch: CCP_Avalon
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Richard TheLordOfDance
New Eden Special Operations Force
15
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Posted - 2015.11.25 15:57:31 -
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I like it!
Can we speed up the server drop down animation though?
Otherwise very nice, very pretty. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2117
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:17:23 -
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Some things:
- Please move the Play button back to the right. It is also somewhat harder to hit the play button as it is not clear where it ends and where it starts. the previous Play button with the ring was by far easier and more straightforward to use. When I hover some 10 px next to the button, it is highlighted in blue (indicating that I am in the hitbox), but clicking it does not start the game. Instead, I need to move my mouse directly over the arrow.
- Please make the multi launch a check box again and not this skeuomorphic switch.
- There is no tooltip when you hover your mouse over the gear button to access settings.
- You missing a way to access the settings folder in your Manage Settings window, because your latest version of the launcher wiped all settings again.
- Clicking again on the notification button (the speech bubble in the to right corner) does not close opened notifications, which is very unintuitive.
- And this one is without please, because it is a completely stupid move: Get rid of that faint line below the accounts to indicate whether an account is running. This is already ridiculous and hard to read and understand in the new probe scanning window, it is even worse here. The previous indication with the full row being highlighted is so much better, easier to read and understand and to distinguish. Whoever is responsible for that line stuff should be send to the Reykjavik uni to get some lessons in proper UI design.
- Another thing is the placement of the elements. Why is there so much wasted space around the client list box? Instead, the window should be divided into 2 parts: Left side - the list of the clients logged in. Right side - Ads, Notifications, other rubbish. 2 clearly distinguishable areas that do not interfere with each other and that use the available room a lot more efficiently than in your version. Right now, there's no system behind it. The list, had I more than my limited number of chars, would just create a scrollbar or vanish under the ads at the bottom. Then there are ads at the bottom, but notifications and other ad-like content on the left, smashed onto the list box. Instead, the window should look like this. Before someone complains about it, notifications overlapping the ads is intentional and also already happens right now when there are more than 2 notifications, so that's no big deal.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Cherri Minoa
IronPig Sev3rance
133
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:33:27 -
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CCP Avalon wrote:Snooowi wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher? Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool. The following information should help in recovering these settings. For Windows users (7 and up): * Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
Thanks for the fix.
Just to add, if like me you have a lot of settings folders (backups etc) then once you have restarted the launcher you will need to select which profile to use. For me it is the one that begins c_program_files_(x86)_ it may vary depending on system.
"If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
220
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:38:20 -
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General look is better, but I prefer the old account selection part. The new font is too bold, the switches don't really make sense, the old play button was better.
Also server selection animation is t o o o s s s l l o o o o o w w w |
McBarnacle
Black Scorpions Inc Fidelas Constans
26
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:59:12 -
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CCP Avalon wrote:Snooowi wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:A few things came to mind: - for future patches: please please please backup the current userprofile settings, i had to reimport old ones from 2 month ago :(
This please! Is there a way to get at the ones I was using in my previous version of the Beta Launcher? Is there are reason you guys don't copy previous Beta-launcher settings before you do the update and then re-import them automatically? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool. The following information should help in recovering these settings. For Windows users (7 and up): * Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
Thanks for that Avalon, worked perfectly. I have let my corp know as well for anyone having similar issues.
McB
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Sheldor Frye
Fratres Miliciae
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 17:52:27 -
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Just one thing, please include the Eve time somwhere on the client. Would help to keep track when those events and streams start without hurting my brain too much. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2117
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Posted - 2015.11.25 18:50:16 -
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For some reason, I just managed to open the twitch page in the Launcher window. I know that the launcher is just a chromium browser window, but is this intentional? The first time, I just left clicked somewhere on the notification, the second time I right clicked the URL'd link and used "Navigate to..."; left clicking the URL'd text opens the link normally in my real browser.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Chino Saisima
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:08:02 -
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two more things:
- it infuriates me to no end that the icon in the taskbar shows a "loading bar" after launching a client. the bar doesnt move or disappears after closing a client though. see here
- everytime a new launcher version is deployed, i get a black screen after launching an additional client. it loads bulkdata and all that jazz, but afterwards theres just the small download circle in the bottom left circling, and thats it. no matter how often you relaunch other clients, still same picture. doesnt matter either which account is launched at first, all subsequent launched accounts dont work. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
805
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:50:12 -
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Chino Saisima wrote:two more things: - it infuriates me to no end that the icon in the taskbar shows a "loading bar" after launching a client. the bar doesnt move or disappears after closing a client though. see here- everytime a new launcher version is deployed, i get a black screen after launching an additional client. it loads bulkdata and all that jazz, but afterwards theres just the small download circle in the bottom left circling, and thats it. no matter how often you relaunch other clients, still same picture. doesnt matter either which account is launched at first, all subsequent launched accounts dont work. First, take a deep breath and relax - life's too short to get infuriated by the little things.
The launcher is probably still downloading binaries and/or resources for any test servers you may have selected. By default, Singularity and Duality are enabled - you can turn them off in Settings.
The problem with the black screen - is that only after updating? If you restart the launcher, can you then launch multiple clients?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Chino Saisima
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:15:02 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Chino Saisima wrote:two more things: - it infuriates me to no end that the icon in the taskbar shows a "loading bar" after launching a client. the bar doesnt move or disappears after closing a client though. see here- everytime a new launcher version is deployed, i get a black screen after launching an additional client. it loads bulkdata and all that jazz, but afterwards theres just the small download circle in the bottom left circling, and thats it. no matter how often you relaunch other clients, still same picture. doesnt matter either which account is launched at first, all subsequent launched accounts dont work. First, take a deep breath and relax - life's too short to get infuriated by the little things. The launcher is probably still downloading binaries and/or resources for any test servers you may have selected. By default, Singularity and Duality are enabled - you can turn them off in Settings. The problem with the black screen - is that only after updating? If you restart the launcher, can you then launch multiple clients?
thanks for your response, though the infuriation was more literally spoken :)
the launcher shouldnt download anything - i just have tranq and sisi as usable servers checked. still, ive checked my net connections and there isnt any download going on from the evelauncher.exe
the black-screen problem appeared after the launcher-update before this. when i restart, i can launch multiple clients. now if i close one of those, i run into the black screen problem. already submitted a bug report but it was closed with "clear cache or open a 'character stuck' ticket". point is, its not related to a single character, but to all accounts. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
806
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:25:40 -
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Chino Saisima wrote: ...
thanks for your response, though the infuriation was more literally spoken :)
the launcher shouldnt download anything - i just have tranq and sisi as usable servers checked. still, ive checked my net connections and there isnt any download going on from the evelauncher.exe
the black-screen problem appeared after the launcher-update before this. when i restart, i can launch multiple clients. now if i close one of those, i run into the black screen problem. already submitted a bug report but it was closed with "clear cache or open a 'character stuck' ticket". point is, its not related to a single character, but to all accounts.
Alright, I'll investigate the progress bar issue, maybe there are some edge cases I've missed where it isn't updated properly. If this persists, please file a bug report attaching the launcher log (from AppData/Local/CCP/EVE/Launcher).
Not sure what to say about the black screen issue. If the problem persists, run the clients with logging enabled, file a new bug report and attach the logs (AppData/Local/CCP/EVE/ClientLogs). Mention my name in the title so it gets routed to me, I'll take a closer look.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Seth Mardassan
0rizen Irregulars Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:41:44 -
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The issue about losing settings was posted in our corp mail, and for that reason I decided to skip the update when the client asked me to update.
Yet for some dark reason the client believed my preference was irrelevant and decided to update itself anyway!
Luckily there's the fix but it would be nice if the software actually does what I tell it to do. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32881
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Posted - 2015.11.25 21:46:32 -
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While exploring the buttons on the new launcher, I clicked the "Account" link and saw the black friday sale, which led to the purchase of a 6-pack. Thanks!
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
919
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Posted - 2015.11.25 22:07:49 -
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CCP Maxwell wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:2 items
1) Norton yanked it for high disk activity 2) Uses way too much screen real estate. Could easily be half the size. Is it possible to white-list the launcher in the Norton application? We have already contacted Norton about white-listing the launcher, but that may only have worked for that particular version of the launcher.
It is possible to have Norton put it back/whitelist, but since the install was aborted you need to run the install yet again in order for it to complete. I dunno what the install is doing, but I have my install on a bulk hard drive to save hits on my SSD and the hard drive is being hammered hard for about a minute before Norton steps in. This would seem extremely odd for a launcher install, even if it does have a ridiculous 250MB image while running.
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
919
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Posted - 2015.11.25 22:11:06 -
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Lair Osen wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:2 items
2) Uses way too much screen real estate. Could easily be half the size. You know you can resize it right?
Yes. Even minimum size it is way too big. A LOT of unused graphic space. The only thing forcing it to the minimum size is the two side by side product adverts. Stacking them, or even better kill one, would allow a more reasonable sized UI.
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Kaliba Mort
Patriotic Tendencies Executive Outcomes
16
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Posted - 2015.11.25 22:17:21 -
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Works well. Just a few suggestions and comments,
1. under Wine, anti-aliasing is off making things "ugly" and text on right side "buttons" is unreadable 2. checkboxes may have been simpler to recognize than those slide-buttons
Keep up the good work
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Kal'Han
Win or Die
28
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Posted - 2015.11.25 23:18:04 -
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ohh what a nice suprise, nice UI brush up, more compact and small ads are nice
Thanks god for patch note
interesting drag and drop to reorder the account, but no double clic to launch, me sad, but the play button is easier to clic on for singular launch.
the right clic is still an issue, even more now that there are link that work : right clic on the patch notes, and "navigate to" the launcher turns into a browser, go on the forum from there, navigate here in this post and clic https://www.google.com yay internet browsing inside the launcher oh and middle clic spawns additional windows, I'd prefer tabs, but you take what you can.
I don't know if the tokens from login site are available in the browser session or something but that's a big "meh" from me.
I'll try some streaming and download, just to check if it stores random stuff on my computer |
Adara Starkiss
Blackstone Holdings Sev3rance
7
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Posted - 2015.11.26 00:19:41 -
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- Server list and process views are now a standalone windows
And that was a good idea why? It was great as it was, I could see same thing from the same window before and now I have an additional window in the way when I alt tab.... thanks for screwing it up.
Ubuntu Mate 15.04 64bit // Amd A8-5600K // 6GB DDR3 // Sandisk 120GB SSD Plus //
Wine 1.7.50 // Beta Launcher // TS3 working // Happy to be back in Ubuntu :)
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
240
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Posted - 2015.11.26 03:14:26 -
[40] - Quote
The MOTD popup placement is still awkward when you have the launcher at its most "compact" size. It overlaps the account list so its visually annoying. If at least there was an option to never show the popup without clicking the button that would be great. I honestly don't care for the eve news personally.
You also seem to now have two settings windows, the left hand side settings and the "EVE icon" dropdown at the top open two different types of settings dialogs with identical options.
Also +1 for the suggestion above to include the current EVE time in the launcher, you don't know how useful this is as most of us don't live in UTC/GMT+0 ;) |
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tumirnichtweh
tumirnichtweh Corporation 3.0
1
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Posted - 2015.11.26 06:09:38 -
[41] - Quote
After the new Launcher update it is not working with default Wine anymore, because of some QT related error Here are the steps to make it work again with Wine:
Applications, set Windows version to XP. Libraries: dbghelp (disabled), msvcp100 (native, buildin), msvcr100(native, buildin)
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Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
220
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Posted - 2015.11.26 06:41:53 -
[42] - Quote
tumirnichtweh wrote:After the new Launcher update it is not working with default Wine anymore, because of some QT related error Here are the steps to make it work again with Wine: Still works for me. Not affected by update. Admittedly over time the prefix ended up with a bunch of overrides and probably some kind of dotnet installs. Current overrides are atl120, mscoree, msvcp120, msvcr120, vcomp120, d3d11. Most of them probably have nothing to do with EVE though. |
Justin Cody
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
335
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Posted - 2015.11.26 08:32:30 -
[43] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:On November 25th we have deployed an update to the beta launcher. If you haven't heard about this new EVE Launcher before, please check out the dev blog. If you have already installed the beta launcher it should update itself automatically - otherwise you can install the latest version: * Windows (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-984818.exe)* Mac (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-984818.dmg)The update has the following changes, fixes and additions: - Better handling of file errors, offering to fix permissions - Added network diagnostics to help track down network issues - Added support for translations (text is not fully translated yet) - Added an option to minimize to tray - Prevent multiple instances of the launcher - Added an option to force the client to use DX9 - Improved the logging window - Server list and process views are now a standalone windows - Settings folders for clients no longer have the server ip numbers in their name - Fixed issue with download everything stalling Changes to the UI include: - New design - Server status information updates more frequently - MOTD icon button and notifications moved to upper right corner - Added patch notes link - Rearranged buttons based on user feedback - EULA buttons no longer disappear under ads We welcome you to check out this new beta EVE Launcher and let us know what you think!
please make sure future releases pull all cached data over including overview settings, portraits, UI settings and graphics settings.
Thanks.
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Jaantrag
33
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Posted - 2015.11.26 09:43:41 -
[44] - Quote
Jack Tronic wrote:The MOTD popup placement is still awkward when you have the launcher at its most "compact" size. It overlaps the account list so its visually annoying. If at least there was an option to never show the popup without clicking the button that would be great. I honestly don't care for the eve news personally.
.. perhaps just color the baloon to red when there is something new or something :)
Justin Cody wrote:please make sure future releases pull all cached data over including overview settings, portraits, UI settings and graphics settings. Thanks.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6187253#post6187253
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Luscius Uta
187
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Posted - 2015.11.26 11:21:45 -
[45] - Quote
The new version of the beta launcher is still erroneously saying that I never logged from this IP if mistype my account password. It should instead give the message that I entered wrong username or password.
Drifters have arrived - The End is nigh!
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Valerius Marcus
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2015.11.26 14:55:23 -
[46] - Quote
Luscius Uta wrote:The new version of the beta launcher is still erroneously saying that I never logged from this IP if mistype my account password. It should instead give the message that I entered wrong username or password.
I think that's intentional from an account security standpoint. It lets someone who is attempting to gain access to your account, or is randomly trying to brute force usernames or passwords think that they have correct un/pw combo even when they don't.
I've noticed similar behavior when I misstype the account name. It goes through like it took the password, asks for a character name, and then kicks me back out.
Ideally a login system wouldn't provide any feedback that would allow an attacker to determine what value was incorrect, username, password, token, character name etc. |
Austneal
Nero Fazione End of Life
112
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Posted - 2015.11.26 16:05:00 -
[47] - Quote
The material design is strong here Also, it would be nice if the Eve time was displayed somewhere on the launcher. |
Mega Lord
UAB Mangustelis U.C.F. Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.11.26 18:18:20 -
[48] - Quote
after update it doesnt start any more, shows in tsk manager but thats it, i also noticed that QtWebEngineProcess doenst start then i start launcher |
Hiwashi
Unlimited Blade Works.
2
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Posted - 2015.11.26 20:32:20 -
[49] - Quote
Yo.
So, could you make it so the launcher remember the what server I had selected after closing? Maybe as a opt-in setting? Right now it defaults to TQ every time I open it.
I almost did something extremely stupid on TQ because I thought I was on SISI. |
Kal'Han
Win or Die
28
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Posted - 2015.11.26 20:54:44 -
[50] - Quote
Hiwashi wrote:Yo.
So, could you make it so the launcher remembers what server I had selected after closing? Maybe as a opt-in setting? Right now it defaults to TQ every time I open it.
I almost did something extremely stupid on TQ because I thought I was on SISI.
Lol the exact opposite was asked at the begining of the beta when it remembered... yeah I guess option should be to check a 'set as default server' check box in the list of servers, or an option in settings |
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Sgt Ocker
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
777
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Posted - 2015.11.26 21:32:11 -
[51] - Quote
Kal'Han wrote:Hiwashi wrote:Yo.
So, could you make it so the launcher remembers what server I had selected after closing? Maybe as a opt-in setting? Right now it defaults to TQ every time I open it.
I almost did something extremely stupid on TQ because I thought I was on SISI. Lol the exact opposite was asked at the begining of the beta when it remembered... yeah I guess option should be to check a 'set as default server' check box in the list of servers, or an option in settings
You can only log in to a test server by selecting it. If you don't select to log in to it you are on TQ. No need for more check boxes.
You can't "accidentally" log in to TQ but you can "deliberately" log in to a test server.
Could it be any more simplified?
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If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
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Why can't CCP see the obvious - Large dominating groups are bad for Eve.
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Lady Aesir
Ghost Recon Inc
20
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Posted - 2015.11.26 22:31:18 -
[52] - Quote
Can we please have a system to copy settings to all characters either by account or the whole lot. It a pain having to setup the same settings on all characters. |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2117
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Posted - 2015.11.27 07:31:37 -
[53] - Quote
Today, I noticed that the launcher icon in the task bar showed a progress bar in the background, while the progress bar in the launcher itself was completed and the launcher said it's Ready. What kind of stuff is the launcher doing in the background in these cases?
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Hiwashi
Unlimited Blade Works.
2
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Posted - 2015.11.27 10:09:58 -
[54] - Quote
Sgt Ocker wrote:Kal'Han wrote:Hiwashi wrote:Yo.
So, could you make it so the launcher remembers what server I had selected after closing? Maybe as a opt-in setting? Right now it defaults to TQ every time I open it.
I almost did something extremely stupid on TQ because I thought I was on SISI. Lol the exact opposite was asked at the begining of the beta when it remembered... yeah I guess option should be to check a 'set as default server' check box in the list of servers, or an option in settings You can only log in to a test server by selecting it. If you don't select to log in to it you are on TQ. No need for more check boxes. You can't "accidentally" log in to TQ but you can "deliberately" log in to a test server. Could it be any more simplified?
Yes, now that I understand that it defaults to TQ I won't **** up again.
That said, an opt-in setting that allows players that want to set their default server to something other than TQ wouldn't hurt. For those who complained about it defaulting to whatever you had used last it won't change a thing, since the current behavior will stay as the default.
For those who want to temporarily change their servers, they will have the opportunity to do so.
Everyone wins. |
Luscius Uta
187
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Posted - 2015.11.27 11:36:10 -
[55] - Quote
Valerius Marcus wrote:Luscius Uta wrote:The new version of the beta launcher is still erroneously saying that I never logged from this IP if mistype my account password. It should instead give the message that I entered wrong username or password. I think that's intentional from an account security standpoint. It lets someone who is attempting to gain access to your account, or is randomly trying to brute force usernames or passwords think that they have correct un/pw combo even when they don't. I've noticed similar behavior when I misstype the account name. It goes through like it took the password, asks for a character name, and then kicks me back out. Ideally a login system wouldn't provide any feedback that would allow an attacker to determine what value was incorrect, username, password, token, character name etc.
I assume so, but I don't have a problem with account security but with the launcher openly lying to me that I logged from a new IP address. To me, it's not an additional step in security but badly designed user interface, especially when you consider that my senses tell me I will save few seconds if I hit "cancel" in case I typed the wrong password instead of typing my character name.
Drifters have arrived - The End is nigh!
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CowRocket Void
Great White North Productions Alternate Allegiance
26
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Posted - 2015.11.27 15:41:23 -
[56] - Quote
Can we please choose from some different backgrounds The current one clashes with my desktop motif.
bleeding shadow darkness > did i just saw a red procurer? :P
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Nathon Eijkov
Hup Hop Hap
0
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Posted - 2015.11.27 17:37:34 -
[57] - Quote
Launching all accounts (2 for me) while file's aren't ready yet, will give popup, but also launch one client (bottom one for me), after files are loaded. |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Phoebe Freeport Republic
1683
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Posted - 2015.11.27 18:06:08 -
[58] - Quote
Besides being a little slow to load, (I think this is a server issue I'm having), it's great. I really like this version and it makes logging in with multiple accounts super easy. Also, allowing log in to the test server from the same interface is a big win.
I would move the MOTD somewhere though, it overlaps stuff and gets in the way. I'm fine with it but it covers the bug report/feedback area and the login section.
Big leap forward though. Really like it.
GÇ£Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do. GÇ¥ - Dale Carnegie
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Ito Saika
Saika Garden
2
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Posted - 2015.11.27 19:28:40 -
[59] - Quote
If you have your launcher fullscreen, minimize it to tray and then bring it back it won't be fullscreen anymore. In-launcher patch-notes would be very nice. |
Rollo Brinalle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2015.11.27 21:13:17 -
[60] - Quote
Another small request: It would be very nice to be able to see the server time on the launcher. This helps with determining the relevance of information on the popup when CCP events are going. |
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Tenletters Arcturus
0
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Posted - 2015.11.28 03:11:05 -
[61] - Quote
The new Launcher seems to have issues with high DPI Screens. I have a surface Pro 2 and the beta Launcher appears very small. The old launcher respects the windows scaling and appears larger |
Alex Quintane
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2015.11.28 11:51:32 -
[62] - Quote
The .exe always had status updates shown on the login screen for the server which showed things like startup time, vip mode, etc would it be possible to include this functionality into the new launcher?
Pictures to demonstrate http://imgur.com/a/3EugP |
Ser Berus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2015.11.28 17:35:08 -
[63] - Quote
Couple of suggestions:
- I agree with some of the other comments about the multi-launch; the slider switch is more visually appealing, but the checkbox works a lot better. Maybe a bigger checkbox with a fade in visual effect so it looks good? - I would really like it if there was a "check for updates" button someplace; I tend to leave my computer on all the time, and as a window slob, I tend to just close the eve client window and leave the launcher open. This means that the next time I sit down after a patch is pushed, I get to sit through the client load, only to get "Incompatible (build)" once it loads, requiring me to close out of exefile, close out of the launcher, restart the launcher, then wait for it to update. I'm thinking of some kind of visual bug on the launcher that could "light up" when it needs to take an update, which I could then just click on to update without having to restart the launcher to check. - Small thing, but the news button in the upper right corner should be configured so that you can close the news box by clicking the same button again, rather than having to click the X button in the actual news popup. - It'd be nice if the sidebar buttons (account, support) did something in the launcher window instead of just opening an external browser; guessing this is just a beta thing and you guys are working on it. Also echoing the comments that the "launcher" button doesn't seem to have a point currently. |
Anna Ohu
x-Raine-x
6
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Posted - 2015.11.28 21:03:34 -
[64] - Quote
really like how the launcher is coming along One HUGE request, can we have a drop down menu instead of a cog wheel for the select profile, please? that way we can see what profile is set to each account at a glance rather than having to open the menu for each client.
Also some of the "client settings" don't seem to carry over, like when i unchecked all the wallet settings, or market window settings, and neo comm bar order of icons seems to get botched a lot, and the chat window setting seem to have to be re-done all the time. Would really like to have everything from the settings window saved and assigned to that profile along with each setting for each window and neo comm bar, and would also like to have window locations, window pin info, and window stacking, and overview setting set and saved to each profile??
It would be very nice to have the profiles "server" side saved so that no matter what computer I access the game from all profiles are available no matter what computer made/edited on. or at least put them in an easily accessed file location? |
Richecko
University of Caille Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.11.28 21:04:52 -
[65] - Quote
Thanks for fixing the report of the motd obscuring the play button and having no [x] box.
I found one case where the current launcher reports an incorrect error:
If you quit the client and then use the launcher to immediately relaunch it you get an error to use the repair tool because your client is corrupted. It ends up the client is not corrupted and the actual error should be "you are relaunching too quickly" (or just delay and have no error). If you wait a bit - and then try to re-launch the client it works fine. So, there's some part of the shutdown/relaunch process that causes the launcher to incorrectly think the client software is corrupted. |
Ayer Loyen
The Oasis Group TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.11.28 22:06:58 -
[66] - Quote
After logging in an account, there is a selection window to choose an alt on that account.
I would rather have this choice in the launcher so that I can get in my pilot in one step instead of in two steps as now.
I guess this would require quite large redesign of the login process though. |
Ayer Loyen
The Oasis Group TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.11.28 22:08:00 -
[67] - Quote
Text: "The authentication token has expired, please log in again" keeps on screen even after re-logging. |
Bester Lamont
Bear Marketing
15
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Posted - 2015.11.29 07:24:08 -
[68] - Quote
"The EVE client is not ready - please wait for downloads to finish."
Been this way for a while now but there's no indication anywhere that it's downloading anything. Where can I view this progress so I can know if it's just stuck or actually doing something? |
Cat Harkness
Twilight Labs
40
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Posted - 2015.11.29 09:45:35 -
[69] - Quote
Bester Lamont wrote:"The EVE client is not ready - please wait for downloads to finish."
Been this way for a while now but there's no indication anywhere that it's downloading anything. Where can I view this progress so I can know if it's just stuck or actually doing something?
I have also had this the last few days. It does not appear to be downloading anything, but you can't login until it states ready.
Would be nice if you could click on launch, and the client would just launch when it is ready. Didn't the old launcher do this? Been a while since I used it.
Cat Harkness
CEO
Twilight Labs
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Valerius Marcus
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2015.11.29 17:05:00 -
[70] - Quote
Anna Ohu wrote:really like how the launcher is coming along One HUGE request, can we have a drop down menu instead of a cog wheel for the select profile, please? that way we can see what profile is set to each account at a glance rather than having to open the menu for each client.
This is an excellent suggestion. Launcher should be able to provide info at a glance for your accounts I think. |
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Astrid Farnsworth
Broke and Famous
3
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Posted - 2015.11.30 01:23:57 -
[71] - Quote
Any way have an master user an password and in the back of that one all the account..
I don't now how to explain. Like a user to rule all and the you be able to see all the accounts that you can launch. |
Marius Fett
Forge Industrial Command FUBAR.
3
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Posted - 2015.11.30 02:21:26 -
[72] - Quote
It won't let me select the singularity server on the beta launcher, why can't anything from CCP ever be Simple. |
Leo Burnhart
Tauron Heavy industry Shadow of xXDEATHXx
13
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Posted - 2015.11.30 08:06:05 -
[73] - Quote
Btw, could you make the launcher skipped by steam tracking? Cause when I close the game but forget about the current launcher , steam still says that I am in EVE and tracks time for it. |
Darkblad
2443
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Posted - 2015.11.30 08:20:30 -
[74] - Quote
My Launcher is currently stuck at version 985175, UI Version 1.728
Each time I start the launcher (or select Refresh from the E Menu) I get this notification
Launcher Settings are
Language: English Version Type: Development Download everything: checked Test Servers: Sisi checked
Modification Date of C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\updatelog.txt is 26.11.2015. with:
updatelog.txt wrote: C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\updater.exe C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/ResFiles C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/evelauncher_985175.txt C:/EVE/Launcher
[...] C:/EVE/Launcher\updater.exe updater.exe needs updating C:/EVE/Launcher\vccorlib120.dll Starting copy... Copying C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/ResFiles\92/9246d9682663155d_a1d39f309ecf0e4485f65ccbc8232f46 to C:/EVE/Launcher\evelauncher.exe Copy failed for evelauncher.exe(error code 32) Retrying copy of evelauncher.exe Copying C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/ResFiles\09/0982e16ebf24cb56_2e8bc216da42f531d01236767d90bac8 to C:/EVE/Launcher\fixpermissions.exe Copying C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/ResFiles\f1/f1635b817fc8c38c_14cd202d7877cd8f97da9e1f47b6bcdb to C:/EVE/Launcher\updater.exe Update finished - restarting launcher
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CCP nLock
C C P C C P Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.11.30 09:18:09 -
[75] - Quote
Darkblad wrote:My Launcher is currently stuck at version 985175, UI Version 1.728 Each time I start the launcher (or select Refresh from the E Menu) I get this notificationLauncher Settings are Language: English Version Type: Development Download everything: checked Test Servers: Sisi checked Modification Date of C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\updatelog.txt is 26.11.2015. with: updatelog.txt wrote: C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\updater.exe C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/ResFiles C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/evelauncher_985175.txt C:/EVE/Launcher
[...] C:/EVE/Launcher\updater.exe updater.exe needs updating C:/EVE/Launcher\vccorlib120.dll Starting copy... Copying C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/ResFiles\92/9246d9682663155d_a1d39f309ecf0e4485f65ccbc8232f46 to C:/EVE/Launcher\evelauncher.exe Copy failed for evelauncher.exe(error code 32) Retrying copy of evelauncher.exe Copying C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/ResFiles\09/0982e16ebf24cb56_2e8bc216da42f531d01236767d90bac8 to C:/EVE/Launcher\fixpermissions.exe Copying C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache\/ResFiles\f1/f1635b817fc8c38c_14cd202d7877cd8f97da9e1f47b6bcdb to C:/EVE/Launcher\updater.exe Update finished - restarting launcher
Changing the Version type setting from Development to Release or Beta and restarting the launcher (would make sense to trigger the updater if that setting is changed?) offers launcher build 984818 and successfully applies that update. Proceeding and changing Version type back to Development again fails to apply 985175 Issues with the new files of that build?
We are pushing out quite a lot of updates on Development that have the potential to break the launcher. I completely un- and reinstalled the launcher on Friday to get around a similar problem. If you're having problems with Dev, just stick with Release for now - or you could try reinstalling.
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Chino Saisima
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2015.11.30 20:01:54 -
[76] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Chino Saisima wrote: ...
thanks for your response, though the infuriation was more literally spoken :)
the launcher shouldnt download anything - i just have tranq and sisi as usable servers checked. still, ive checked my net connections and there isnt any download going on from the evelauncher.exe
the black-screen problem appeared after the launcher-update before this. when i restart, i can launch multiple clients. now if i close one of those, i run into the black screen problem. already submitted a bug report but it was closed with "clear cache or open a 'character stuck' ticket". point is, its not related to a single character, but to all accounts.
Alright, I'll investigate the progress bar issue, maybe there are some edge cases I've missed where it isn't updated properly. If this persists, please file a bug report attaching the launcher log (from AppData/Local/CCP/EVE/Launcher). Not sure what to say about the black screen issue. If the problem persists, run the clients with logging enabled, file a new bug report and attach the logs (AppData/Local/CCP/EVE/ClientLogs). Mention my name in the title so it gets routed to me, I'll take a closer look.
Ticket with number EBR-58116 opened, thanks for looking into it! :) |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
812
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Posted - 2015.11.30 20:11:41 -
[77] - Quote
Chino Saisima wrote: ...
Ticket with number EBR-58116 opened, thanks for looking into it! :)
The launcher logs are stored in %LOCALAPPDATA%\CCP\EVE\Launcher. If you check 'Run clients with logging' in the launcher settings you'll also get full client logs under %LOCALAPPDATA%\CCP\EVE\ClientLogs. I recommend unchecking that setting once you're done - the client logs can become quite large and have a minor impact on performance as well.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
812
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Posted - 2015.11.30 20:59:41 -
[78] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Chino Saisima wrote: ...
Ticket with number EBR-58116 opened, thanks for looking into it! :)
The launcher logs are stored in %LOCALAPPDATA%\CCP\EVE\Launcher. If you check 'Run clients with logging' in the launcher settings you'll also get full client logs under %LOCALAPPDATA%\CCP\EVE\ClientLogs. I recommend unchecking that setting once you're done - the client logs can become quite large and have a minor impact on performance as well. I have a theory on what's going on, thanks to your logs. Hopefully we'll have a fix in a day or two.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Aloron
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.11.30 21:07:31 -
[79] - Quote
I love the new launcher guys .. it makes so much easier going from TG to SiS .. my only wish is that it would close out or minimize to the task bar once you launch the game ..
Other than that looks great .. will be using from one for sure .. |
motorguy
Un4seen Development Sev3rance
0
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Posted - 2015.12.01 00:15:39 -
[80] - Quote
Love the new launcher. One suggestion is to disable the Play Selected box until downloads are complete. This would provide a much better user experience. |
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Darkblad
2448
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Posted - 2015.12.01 09:16:14 -
[81] - Quote
CCP nLock wrote:We are pushing out quite a lot of updates on Development that have the potential to break the launcher. Thanks for your reply. I'll stick to (temporarily) falling back to release and trying development an hour (or a day or two) later then, should another update fail.
dev build 986896 loaded fine, btw. |
Merida DunBrogh
Black Screen Of Raging Defeat
43
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Posted - 2015.12.01 10:56:07 -
[82] - Quote
Having done a quick test with this launcher, I like it quite a bit.
The things I like: - Multi launch and remembering log-in/password - Easier access to the test servers
Things I liked better in the old launcher: - Displayed news like what new dev blogs came out and new masstests etc. There is that text balloon thingy that seems to hold some kind of news, but all it tells me is about a CCP stream and does so through a bubble that blocks half the launcher. (Slightly exaggerated, but it does feel like it)
Things I'd like to see: - Profile settings copying more data(Like window locations etc.) and actually having the same settings between all clients. Having to deselect camera shake for example while enabling light rays on each client was something I had hoped would be solved by having all clients use the same profile. (I did click on the cog wheel and select the profile, but only the first character has the settings I want after creating the new profile and setting everything up in-game)
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Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
150
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Posted - 2015.12.01 17:07:05 -
[83] - Quote
OK< HELP! My settings were deleted, and your instructions dont even work. There is no "folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" or anything like that, but I have my settings in a folder named c_program_files_(x86)_ccp_eve_tranquility, and when I copy the settings folder in that to the c_programdata_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility folder and restart the launcher, NOTHING CHANGES.
Edit: Problem still exists, but I got around it by replacing the files in the Settings_Default folder with my setting files.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Falcon's truth
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Kal'Han
Win or Die
29
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Posted - 2015.12.01 23:05:47 -
[84] - Quote
the thing you tried was for people who were using an old beta launcher and lost settings after last week update
you should have been offered to copy settings with a UI at some point before getting where you were, what you did is exactly what this little UI do : copy settings from the normal launcher to the beta one. |
Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
151
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Posted - 2015.12.02 06:15:02 -
[85] - Quote
Kal'Han wrote:the thing you tried was for people who were using an old beta launcher and lost settings after last week update
you should have been offered to copy settings with a UI at some point before getting where you were, what you did is exactly what this little UI do : copy settings from the normal launcher to the beta one.
True, what you said happened, but while the settings were copied, they were not applied, EvE only looks at the Default settings folder.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Falcon's truth
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Merida DunBrogh
Black Screen Of Raging Defeat
44
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Posted - 2015.12.02 09:15:44 -
[86] - Quote
Kal'Han wrote:the thing you tried was for people who were using an old beta launcher and lost settings after last week update
you should have been offered to copy settings with a UI at some point before getting where you were, what you did is exactly what this little UI do : copy settings from the normal launcher to the beta one.
It also did not work for me, or didn't seem to anyway. It sure didn't help I had like 9 folders I had to choose out of(3 TQ 4 Singularity and 2 duality) And doing further testing between my alts on both the test server and TQ with entirely new settings profiles they don't really seem to do anything. Only thing that seems to be the same between the clients are the graphics settings(only partially...) and the volume settings... Not exactly a "wow this saved so much of my time!" thing. Everything that would actually save a bunch of time, neocom settings / window positions / remembering what checkboxes I clicked cause I don't care about the warning / chat channels none of those get saved.
The biggest time saver the current beta launcher is capable of is no longer requiring me to input my password 3 times, it's nice, but not exactly what I hope is the only thing the Beta Launcher will be capable of. Maybe doing more than what the profiles currently do is not even possible due to how the info is stored, but I do hope it becomes more useful in further releases.
On the flipside, I could just be doing something wrong
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
813
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Posted - 2015.12.02 10:04:01 -
[87] - Quote
Merida DunBrogh wrote:Kal'Han wrote:the thing you tried was for people who were using an old beta launcher and lost settings after last week update
you should have been offered to copy settings with a UI at some point before getting where you were, what you did is exactly what this little UI do : copy settings from the normal launcher to the beta one. It also did not work for me, or didn't seem to anyway. It sure didn't help I had like 9 folders I had to choose out of(3 TQ 4 Singularity and 2 duality) And doing further testing between my alts on both the test server and TQ with entirely new settings profiles they don't really seem to do anything. Only thing that seems to be the same between the clients are the graphics settings(only partially...) and the volume settings... Not exactly a "wow this saved so much of my time!" thing. Everything that would actually save a bunch of time, neocom settings / window positions / remembering what checkboxes I clicked cause I don't care about the warning / chat channels none of those get saved. The biggest time saver the current beta launcher is capable of is no longer requiring me to input my password 3 times, it's nice, but not exactly what I hope is the only thing the Beta Launcher will be capable of. Maybe doing more than what the profiles currently do is not even possible due to how the info is stored, but I do hope it becomes more useful in further releases. On the flipside, I could just be doing something wrong You are right, it doesn't do much at the moment as it only shares settings that are considered global (such as graphics settings), not the settings that are per account or per character. This is just a first step, though - there are plans to move much of the settings out of per character to the global setting, thus making them shared for everyone using the same settings profile. We needed this feature in the launcher before we start changing the client code.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Cerulean Ice
EVE University Ivy League
50
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Posted - 2015.12.02 12:18:47 -
[88] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:there are plans to move much of the settings out of per character to the global setting, thus making them shared for everyone using the same settings profile I look forward to this!
Cerulean Ice, Professor, E-UNI
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Planeten Schreck
Bittersweet Corp
6
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Posted - 2015.12.02 12:57:55 -
[89] - Quote
Hi,
can we get an Info what is fixed / changed in the todays update ? |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
813
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Posted - 2015.12.02 13:04:29 -
[90] - Quote
Planeten Schreck wrote:Hi,
can we get an Info what is fixed / changed in the todays update ? Nothing user facing, just minor logging changes to allow us to better track usage.
Once we go out of beta we'll have a page with release notes for the launcher itself.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Phial Naari
Lone Star Warriors Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.02 16:05:51 -
[91] - Quote
I keep getting this error and I've verified cache twice...
Error Shared Cache
Cache verified
I've run the launcher as administrator, tried re-installing the launcher and that's about it.
Part of the Log
16:04:28.726 debug Resuming "Resource prefetch for Tranquility" 16:04:28.726 debug "Resource prefetch for Tranquility" has 3 files to download 16:04:28.812 error Couldn't copy temp file to final location for "/92/925e0a7e98c5e605_0fb81486c19712092ddbf67bb90ffe5b" to "C:\\ProgramData\\CCP\\EVE\\SharedCache\\/ResFiles/92/925e0a7e98c5e605_0fb81486c19712092ddbf67bb90ffe5b" 16:04:28.817 error Couldn't copy temp file to final location for "/92/926628248e465314_990a72cbf5ec9b9d90cf714c9d3ebc9a" to "C:\\ProgramData\\CCP\\EVE\\SharedCache\\/ResFiles/92/926628248e465314_990a72cbf5ec9b9d90cf714c9d3ebc9a" 16:04:28.822 error Couldn't copy temp file to final location for "/92/92604e256144eb5f_aea4d35bb1601d74215f2506f15b549c" to "C:\\ProgramData\\CCP\\EVE\\SharedCache\\/ResFiles/92/92604e256144eb5f_aea4d35bb1601d74215f2506f15b549c" 16:04:28.822 debug Downloaded 0 files ( "22.83KB" ) 16:04:28.823 debug Finished task "Resource prefetch for Tranquility" 16:04:28.823 warning Update failed for "Tranquility" with error: 3 16:04:28.823 error "tq" update failed with a disk write error 16:04:36.720 info diagnoseDiskWriteProblems ignoring 16:04:43.454 warning Couldn't get binary index for "quantum" 16:04:43.454 warning Couldn't get binary index for "solace" 16:04:43.454 warning Couldn't get resource index for "quantum" 16:04:43.454 warning Couldn't get resource index for "solace" 16:04:43.455 warning Couldn't get binary index for "sisi" 16:04:43.455 warning Couldn't get binary index for "duality" 16:04:43.455 warning Couldn't get binary index for "mp" 16:04:43.455 warning Couldn't get resource index for "sisi" 16:04:43.455 warning Couldn't get resource index for "duality" 16:04:43.455 warning Couldn't get resource index for "mp" 16:08:12.955 debug Purging extra files 16:08:12.966 debug Purged 0 files |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.02 16:37:40 -
[92] - Quote
Phial Naari wrote:I keep getting this error and I've verified cache twice... Error Shared CacheCache verifiedI've run the launcher as administrator, tried re-installing the launcher and that's about it. Part of the Log 16:04:28.726 debug Resuming "Resource prefetch for Tranquility" 16:04:28.726 debug "Resource prefetch for Tranquility" has 3 files to download 16:04:28.812 error Couldn't copy temp file to final location for "/92/925e0a7e98c5e605_0fb81486c19712092ddbf67bb90ffe5b" to "C:\\ProgramData\\CCP\\EVE\\SharedCache\\/ResFiles/92/925e0a7e98c5e605_0fb81486c19712092ddbf67bb90ffe5b" 16:04:28.817 error Couldn't copy temp file to final location for "/92/926628248e465314_990a72cbf5ec9b9d90cf714c9d3ebc9a" to "C:\\ProgramData\\CCP\\EVE\\SharedCache\\/ResFiles/92/926628248e465314_990a72cbf5ec9b9d90cf714c9d3ebc9a" 16:04:28.822 error Couldn't copy temp file to final location for "/92/92604e256144eb5f_aea4d35bb1601d74215f2506f15b549c" to "C:\\ProgramData\\CCP\\EVE\\SharedCache\\/ResFiles/92/92604e256144eb5f_aea4d35bb1601d74215f2506f15b549c" ... 16:08:12.966 debug Purged 0 files Can you delete those three target files manually?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Charlie Firpol
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
315
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Posted - 2015.12.02 16:39:29 -
[93] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Known issues: - Pasting into the password field doesn't work on the Mac
Lost your settings? This update for the BETA Launcher should have renamed the folder containing client settings. If this did not happen, your settings may have been left behind, and does not display in the migration tool.
The following information should help in recovering these settings.
For Windows users (7 and up):
* Hit the Windows key + R (or hit the start menu and type "run") * Type "%localappdata%/ccp/eve" * Open the folder that ends with "..._tq_87.237.38.200" (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_87.237.38.200) * Copy any "settings_" folders * Return to the parent folder and enter the folder that replaced the IP address with _tranquility (ex. c_ccp_eve_sharedcache_tq_tranquility) * Paste the "settings_" folders here * Restart launcher
I tried to install the Beta Launcher today. Upon asking, which settings I want to import, I was at first really confused. Looks like I had a bunch of old settings folders (from Test servers, multiple installations, old installation paths...) littering the appdata folder.
I did a lot of trying out different settings, none imported properly. Whatever settings I tried to import with the Launchers menu, the game always started in stock configuration (fullscreen, showing the intro video, etc.).
To get my proper settings working, I had to manually copy and rename a settings folder in the appdata folders. The one I had to copy has not been the one ending with "87.237.38.200". In fact, there was no folder ending with that IP. (here has been one with another IP, but those settings were bad, too).
The settings folder I copied was in the folder called "e_eve_tranquility" (E: is the harddrive I installed EVE on).
Edit: It would be really nice if the launcher menu, that is used for importing old settings, would show you which settings has been used last time. That would make it a lot easier for everyone that has such a littered old settings menu like I did :D
The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com
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Phial Naari
Lone Star Warriors Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.02 16:48:30 -
[94] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote: Can you delete those three target files manually?
Sadly my folder is empty already, I'm already being contacted by customer support GM Tron. |
Mister Ripley
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2015.12.02 18:17:17 -
[95] - Quote
Maybe you should change the "Version Type" setting in the settings window to "Launcher Version" or something similar. I thought it was related to the testservers. So I could get a dev build of the testserver or something. Although the confirmation message after changing it to "Development" says it's changing the Launcher Version, maybe that's enough. |
Murtac
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
0
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Posted - 2015.12.02 22:00:24 -
[96] - Quote
I've been trying all day to get the launcher to download the latest launcher update. But the download is extremely slow, and eventually stalls.
Best I've gotten to is 37%. Restarted it after two hours of no movement at all. Now I'm back a 9% :(
Any way I can fix this? Or even better, is there a direct download link? Perhaps one that doesn't sit on a 64kbps line?
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.02 22:16:08 -
[97] - Quote
Murtac wrote:I've been trying all day to get the launcher to download the latest launcher update. But the download is extremely slow, and eventually stalls.
Best I've gotten to is 37%. Restarted it after two hours of no movement at all. Now I'm back a 9% :(
Any way I can fix this? Or even better, is there a direct download link? Perhaps one that doesn't sit on a 64kbps line?
The update should be small, a few hundred kb, unless you have a fairly old version to start with. Not sure what's going on.
Anyway, the latest version is at https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-987223.exe - that's about 50MB and comes from the same location so I'd be surprised if that works any faster. Worth a try, though.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Murtac
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
0
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Posted - 2015.12.02 22:41:27 -
[98] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Murtac wrote:I've been trying all day to get the launcher to download the latest launcher update. But the download is extremely slow, and eventually stalls.
Best I've gotten to is 37%. Restarted it after two hours of no movement at all. Now I'm back a 9% :(
Any way I can fix this? Or even better, is there a direct download link? Perhaps one that doesn't sit on a 64kbps line?
The update should be small, a few hundred kb, unless you have a fairly old version to start with. Not sure what's going on. Anyway, the latest version is at https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-987223.exe - that's about 50MB and comes from the same location so I'd be surprised if that works any faster. Worth a try, though.
Thank you!
It is still very slow: About one hour for the 46.5MB. I'm on a 16mbit/s line, so I usually have about 100 times as much.
I downloaded it to my webserver (which took maybe 2 seconds) and downloaded it to my PC from there. That took less than a minute.
It appears that the Telekom does not like your host (Telia, it seems?)
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Unicorn Nation
834
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Posted - 2015.12.03 01:02:06 -
[99] - Quote
New version is not switching between servers could force it using the server list in the upper right but clicking on the list that does open is not working.
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe.
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Kal'Han
Win or Die
29
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Posted - 2015.12.03 02:34:20 -
[100] - Quote
Murtac wrote:... downloaded it to my webserver (which took maybe 2 seconds) and downloaded it to my PC from there. That took less than a minute. It appears that the Telekom does not like your host (Telia, it seems?)
lots of grieving on this issue, in the issues and workaround forum. this confirms that the server are fine to provide the data to some random servers you are fine getting said data from this random server, but the same thing between ccp and you does not work
you see Telia because of, I assume, a traceroute.
Telia is just providing global internet routing, mainly northern Europe. Right now I see Level3, no Telia. Try a traceroute if you can do that from your webserver, you'll probably see something different too.
now to make some of the griever understand the concept of "route" and stop throwing tantrum on how ccp is bad.... nah I'll keep ignoring the lot
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Nuuk
Technodrome Laboratory Aporkalypse Now
0
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Posted - 2015.12.03 03:03:19 -
[101] - Quote
One issue to consider please:
The launcher seems to be downloading and uploading consistently; please add a metered connection option.
And thank you.
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Finn-Revaie Charaunte
Roll It For Tears
0
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Posted - 2015.12.03 09:00:59 -
[102] - Quote
wow
This is the greatest ui-related feature I have ever seen implemented aside from the changes to overview icons. The new beta launcher is absolutely breathtaking. I am extremely impressed. I saw the beta launcher in action at the hands of CCP Cognac at EVE Down Under 2015 and decided I would try it. I downloaded it mere moments ago and it was the most seamless installation and auto-update process for any game client I have ever used. I am actually in awe. It is so beautiful. The background image is amazing, the layout is faultless, and I can DRAG tO ReSIZe THE FREAKING WINDOW!!!!111. It looks perfect on Windows 10.
The following is a list of how I feel about the beta launcher:
- wow
- good godwow
- wow! Team RnB
Thank you so much! I really look forward to the launcher going to general release and to further projects from Team RnB! |
Kefevs Pirkibo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.12.03 17:31:18 -
[103] - Quote
The new launcher looks promising. At the same time, there is some possible improvements.
Profile now contains all information related to the characters AND physical settings like monitor setup.
I don't know how many in EVE plays with multiple accounts and multiple clients. It would be nice to choose the screen in the launcher, without changing the profile. Currently to change a screen you need to logon then change the screen. For most this temporary blocking of a monitor might not be important. For others this could be a true challenge or a total disaster. Bringing in a [fill in your favorite alt] that blocks your main at the wrong time would be, not cool.
My personal favorite way to solve this would be a screen pulldown menu that can be changed before launch. This would also very visual show what screen the client is going to end up on.
This might be a minor issue, for a limited number of players, or it might be something to consider.
Kef
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CCP raRaRa
C C P C C P Alliance
121
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Posted - 2015.12.03 17:50:57 -
[104] - Quote
Salpun wrote:New version is not switching between servers could force it using the server list in the upper right but clicking on the list that does open is not working.
This issue should be fixed with GUI version 1.729, which was deployed today.
CCP raRaRa // Web Developer // Team Webster
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Redwyne Vyruk
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
17
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Posted - 2015.12.03 19:47:02 -
[105] - Quote
Phial Naari wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote: Can you delete those three target files manually?
Sadly my folder is empty already, I'm already being contacted by customer support GM Tron.
i'm getting same problem, how did you fixed that? |
O2 jayjay
DERP'S R US
52
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Posted - 2015.12.03 23:01:21 -
[106] - Quote
I love the new launcher.
I was wondering if you could make it larger for players using 4k monitors? Also can i get a 200-250% UI scaling? |
stranik infernum
Aurora Musus Amica
0
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Posted - 2015.12.04 08:23:48 -
[107] - Quote
Thanks I liked waiting for such a long time) |
Merida DunBrogh
Black Screen Of Raging Defeat
45
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Posted - 2015.12.04 14:45:58 -
[108] - Quote
In the message of today about Solace & the Masstest, the message was too long for my launcher size(As small as possible). Because I couldn't scroll in the message itself I had to make the Launcher larger to be able to read the entire message.
Adding a scroll ability to messages that are larger than the launcher would be great. |
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
799
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Posted - 2015.12.04 15:34:49 -
[109] - Quote
Okay, I have been fighting this for a while.
Cause I have an older SSD, I cannot just have everything going to C: drive. As such, I have symbolic linkings, etc. New beta launcher on trying to start, running as admin, gives the popup that files cannot be found or insufficient permissions.
Is there a folder aside from the users/roaming/CCP folder hiding somewhere on my C drive or another file/folder I am missing?
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.04 15:44:14 -
[110] - Quote
Markus Reese wrote:Okay, I have been fighting this for a while.
Cause I have an older SSD, I cannot just have everything going to C: drive. As such, I have symbolic linkings, etc. New beta launcher on trying to start, running as admin, gives the popup that files cannot be found or insufficient permissions.
Is there a folder aside from the users/roaming/CCP folder hiding somewhere on my C drive or another file/folder I am missing? Do you have the shared cache on the C: drive? That's what takes up the most space. You can move that in the Shared Cache Settings in the launcher.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.04 15:59:00 -
[111] - Quote
O2 jayjay wrote:I love the new launcher.
I was wondering if you could make it larger for players using 4k monitors? Also can i get a 200-250% UI scaling? This is on my todo list!
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Zkai Eriker
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.04 16:05:39 -
[112] - Quote
This new launcher can stuff it as far as I'm concerned. Been trying since 11pm GMT to get it to recognize my character name for IP verification on Sisi and Solace. Had a go at every trick in the book I can think of but nope "Incorrect character name entered" regardless of the fact that TQ logs in witthout a single hitch |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.04 16:16:14 -
[113] - Quote
Zkai Eriker wrote:This new launcher can stuff it as far as I'm concerned. Been trying since 11am GMT to get it to recognize my character name for IP verification on Sisi and Solace. Had a go at every trick in the book I can think of but nope "Incorrect character name entered" regardless of the fact that TQ logs in witthout a single hitch Have you changed your password recently? If so, try your old password on the test servers.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Zkai Eriker
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.04 16:23:15 -
[114] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Zkai Eriker wrote:This new launcher can stuff it as far as I'm concerned. Been trying since 11am GMT to get it to recognize my character name for IP verification on Sisi and Solace. Had a go at every trick in the book I can think of but nope "Incorrect character name entered" regardless of the fact that TQ logs in witthout a single hitch Have you changed your password recently? If so, try your old password on the test servers.
No dice unfortunately. Still getting that same ol red text taunting me. Tried making an alt acc and seeing if that turned up anything and the red text made an appearance there as well.
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Chan'aar
State War Academy Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2015.12.04 18:04:21 -
[115] - Quote
I am simply unable to use the new launcher, I have downloaded at least two different versions and they each display the same issue.
The installation appears to complete OK but when I click on the "finish" button I get a windows error popup saying the evelauncher has encountered a problem and needs to close.
I am left with a desktop icon but when I click that I get told that evelauncher.exe is not a valid win32 application
I also receive a windows error message when I uninstall the launcher saying that maintenancetool.exe has encountered a problem. |
Akiko Ichosira
Karl XII's Dragoner Apocalypse Now.
3
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Posted - 2015.12.04 18:38:42 -
[116] - Quote
Getting a problem upgrading the launcher from time to time now. Not every update is a problem. Its says its downloading the binaries and then closes the launcher for the update window : http://prntscr.com/9ac5wd
And then nothing happens. i left that **** open for an hour without any progress at all. Only thing that helps is reinstalling everything.
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Johnny S Foster
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
0
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Posted - 2015.12.04 19:02:27 -
[117] - Quote
I couldn't see that this had already been posted, sorry if it's duplicate.
When using mumble overlay, the overlay ends up on the launcher itself and not on the game clients.
Photo: http://imgur.com/fQYi2ii |
Ashade Grey
Fish 'n' Fun The Volition Cult
0
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Posted - 2015.12.04 19:40:15 -
[118] - Quote
I love the new launcher.
however, for the first time today, after updating to the latest version, the following error occurred about 15 minutes after:
Faulting application name: QtWebEngineProcess.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x561c3bc0 Faulting module name: Qt5WebEngineCore.dll, version: 5.5.1.0, time stamp: 0x561c3ac1 Exception code: 0x80000003 Fault offset: 0x01750e04 Faulting process id: 0x1f88 Faulting application start time: 0x01d12ec7c14e0000 Faulting application path: C:\EVE\Launcher\QtWebEngineProcess.exe Faulting module path: C:\EVE\Launcher\Qt5WebEngineCore.dll Report Id: 4359fe33-9abd-11e5-90df-94de807cb59f |
Fixy FixIT
Lunar-Tic Strategic Services
12
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Posted - 2015.12.04 20:06:42 -
[119] - Quote
Been using the Beta launcher since day 1 with almost ZERO issues and I have to say I loveIT
However, after todays update, the launcher does not know when an account is active already, nor will it quit an account from the "Stop" button.
After quitting "in game" the launcher refuses to allow me to select the account I just quit and play on another toon.
Closing, and restarting while I still have a client open simply results in a blank launcher screen.
It's all gone wrong :(
Can you FixIT please CCP ?
Thanks in Advance.
Fixy. |
Zkai Eriker
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.12.04 20:06:46 -
[120] - Quote
Tried logging in via bypassing the launcher and running the EXE as is. Tried both main and the trial acc's with no luck on both fronts just "incorrect username/password" crap. Itt boils down to the whole name verify BS, make that thing optional, if I wanna make my acc convenient but unsecure then just let me. Or use a capcha, or an email link, or a secret question or a remembered phrase. Anything but this crappy name validation
Did a basic and Traceroute as well to try and figure something out but its all gibberish to me and Tranquility still works just fine, its Solace and Singularity that are being sods
Starting traceroute diagnostics - this may take several minutes
Starting tracert for binaries.eveonline.com
Tracing route to d17ueqc3zm9j8o.cloudfront.net [54.230.196.121] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 20 ms 19 ms 17 ms hari-bam-1.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.161.3] 2 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms hari-core-2a-xe-201-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.16.74] 3 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms brnt-bb-1a-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.16.201] 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 19 ms 18 ms 23 ms brnt-bb-1c-ae1-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.102] 6 20 ms 18 ms 19 ms m686-mp2.cvx1-b.lis.dial.ntli.net [62.254.42.174] 7 22 ms 19 ms 18 ms 213.46.174.118 8 32 ms 34 ms 34 ms a100row-ic-300382-ldn-b3.c.telia.net [213.248.77.194] 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 35 ms 34 ms 34 ms server-54-230-196-121.lhr50.r.cloudfront.net [54.230.196.121]
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1 19 ms 18 ms 17 ms hari-bam-1.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.161.3] 2 17 ms 19 ms 18 ms hari-core-2a-xe-201-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.16.74] 3 19 ms 20 ms 22 ms brnt-bb-1a-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.16.201] 4 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms tclo-ic-2-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.250.14.202] 5 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms m450-mp2.cvx3-a.ltn.dial.ntli.net [213.104.85.194] 6 39 ms 31 ms 51 ms 54.239.101.154 7 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms 54.239.101.159 8 51 ms 27 ms 27 ms 54.239.41.118 9 79 ms 28 ms 30 ms 178.236.3.49 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 31 ms 29 ms 27 ms server-54-230-12-54.ams1.r.cloudfront.net [54.230.12.54]
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Tracing route to client.eveonline.com [87.237.39.208] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 29 ms 25 ms 16 ms hari-bam-1.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.161.3] 2 18 ms 18 ms 37 ms hari-core-2a-xe-201-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.16.74] 3 43 ms 23 ms 25 ms brnt-bb-1a-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [81.96.16.201] 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 21 ms 22 ms 26 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.130] 8 23 ms 24 ms 22 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.18] 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out.
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Maureen Carney
ASATRU
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 21:51:53 -
[121] - Quote
I do not seem to be able to use this new Launcher as it does not link to my Steam account.
Is there a way?
Thanks Maureen |
Kal'Han
Win or Die
30
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Posted - 2015.12.04 22:24:26 -
[122] - Quote
yep, 1 go create a eve login/password on this page https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203523662-Setting-an-account-name-for-Accounts-created-through-STEAM 2 stop using steam altogether 3 launch the beta launcher ... profit |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.04 22:57:15 -
[123] - Quote
Maureen Carney wrote:I do not seem to be able to use this new Launcher as it does not link to my Steam account.
Is there a way?
Thanks Maureen We'll push out an update to Steam next week that has the Steam integration.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Maureen Carney
ASATRU
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 23:19:50 -
[124] - Quote
Thanks, is there a way I can eliminate my need of Steam for Eve. and keep my characters full skills and isk,
Cheers |
Drizzd
Opera Gomera Liquidate 02
8
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Posted - 2015.12.04 23:34:14 -
[125] - Quote
Since this afternoon's patch to the beta launcher I experience a lot of freezes - suddenly the launcher that runs in background shows only a blue surface- all that is left to close the launcher and restart. Kinda worrying. when you consider using the same technique ( QT) for the eve client in the near future...
Please fix this asap |
Slevin Taranogas
Bad Wolf. Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 00:02:44 -
[126] - Quote
As Drizzd mentioned, with the update to beta launcher, after some period of time (maybe ten minutes) the launcher UI just becomes gray. As in, the entire window just turns gray with no buttons / icons / images / text. The only thing I can do is exit the launcher and restart it. It happens both with the game client running and without. I was using the beta launcher prior to today's patch without this issue. |
Alex Trevalian
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 00:21:51 -
[127] - Quote
I'm getting the blue launcher screen and when I relaunch it doesn't always find the running clients. |
Kal'Han
Win or Die
31
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Posted - 2015.12.05 00:40:44 -
[128] - Quote
some other post about blue launcher issue https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=459053&find=unread also a 4GB ram consumed by the launcher, well, in short : bugs
I also have the blue launcher issue, but randomly, I can only says it happens when I do something else and come back to the launcher after a few minutes. something during refresh? |
Merida DunBrogh
Black Screen Of Raging Defeat
45
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Posted - 2015.12.05 00:57:38 -
[129] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6201559#post6201559
Linking here to make sure it gets seen. I am starting to think the Beta Launcher may be causing the issue and I'd like to know what is causing it before it causes issues on TQ for me.(Or should I perhaps start a Support Ticket despite it not having happened on TQ just yet?) |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
315
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Posted - 2015.12.05 01:13:41 -
[130] - Quote
The launcher (Version 988259 GUI 1.73) is seriously acting up. Looks like the QTWebEngineprocess.exe is leaking memory like a cracked dam. The memory usage keeps increasing, especially after a client is launched. The usuage increase does not abate even when all clients are closed. You have to close the launcher in order to re-launch a client.
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
802
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Posted - 2015.12.05 05:31:22 -
[131] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Markus Reese wrote:Okay, I have been fighting this for a while.
Cause I have an older SSD, I cannot just have everything going to C: drive. As such, I have symbolic linkings, etc. New beta launcher on trying to start, running as admin, gives the popup that files cannot be found or insufficient permissions.
Is there a folder aside from the users/roaming/CCP folder hiding somewhere on my C drive or another file/folder I am missing? Do you have the shared cache on the C: drive? That's what takes up the most space. You can move that in the Shared Cache Settings in the launcher.
Hi, sorry about the delayed response. The C:\programfiles\ccp is moved via a symbolic link to my D drive. As well, in the current launcher, the file path has been changed. What happens when I try to run EveLauncher-969236.exe is nothing. If I try to run it as admin I get:
"Windows cannot access the specified device, path, or file. You may not have appropriate permissions to access the item."
I did have an issue a while back. Does it make use of existing local installers? My biggest concern is that if the launcher goes active, of losing access to Eve due to some stupid issue with windows. At some point I need to just wipe the SSD and fresh install everything, but that is a pretty heavy work load at this time....
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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LancashireUK
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
7
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Posted - 2015.12.05 06:52:29 -
[132] - Quote
Also getting the blue launcher screen when I minimise the launcher and open it back up. Nothing but blue :)
talkGEEK || The Volition Cult
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McBarnacle
Black Scorpions Inc The Bastion
26
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Posted - 2015.12.05 07:06:30 -
[133] - Quote
Hi all,
I am getting the blue launcher screen too.
McB |
Janetri
Vulcan Industries Alternate Allegiance
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 08:26:18 -
[134] - Quote
I'm also getting the crash after 15 minutes and blue launcher window after that. I'm running Win7. About 15 minutes after starting the launcher, regardless of if I have logged into game or not, I get "QtWebEngineProcess.exe has stopped working" and then the launcher window goes blue and needs to be restarted.
The detailed information is: Problem signature: Problem Event Name:APPCRASH Application Name:QtWebEngineProcess.exe Application Version:0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp:561c3bc0 Fault Module Name:Qt5WebEngineCore.dll Fault Module Version:5.5.1.0 Fault Module Timestamp:561c3ac1 Exception Code:80000003 Exception Offset:01750e04 OS Version:6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48 Locale ID:1035 Additional Information 1:0a9e Additional Information 2:0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3:0a9e Additional Information 4:0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 |
Drizzd
Opera Gomera Liquidate 02
9
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Posted - 2015.12.05 09:44:01 -
[135] - Quote
Markus Reese wrote:Okay, I have been fighting this for a while.
Cause I have an older SSD, I cannot just have everything going to C: drive. As such, I have symbolic linkings, etc. New beta launcher on trying to start, running as admin, gives the popup that files cannot be found or insufficient permissions.
Is there a folder aside from the users/roaming/CCP folder hiding somewhere on my C drive or another file/folder I am missing?
I have a few questions for you
1) what did you use to create those "symbolic links"?
- I'd suggest you create not symlinks but "junction" as you seem to be running windows
to create them run cmd to get a "dos-window" , then
mklink /J linkname real_path
I used to link my eve folder entirely to a new harddisk because of the same matters as you have, a small SSD as system drive
2) did you use the launcher or the eve installer to move your shared resource cache to another harddisk - as the CCP's advice says , the shared resource cache is now the biggest part of eve - even more so in the beta launcher
the new beta launcher even downloads new eve clients and stores them in the same folder as the shared resource cache - which is also the reason for starting as if eve was newly installed - it creates new settings folders that are empty at first ...
Roster so far :
eve client 250 to 300 mbyte per client installation shared resource files about 16 gb
Thus I get about 17 GB of Shared Cache - the beta launcher stored another 4 eve clients - one for each Server I use (TQ, SISI, Duality, Solace) |
Idame Isqua
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
12
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Posted - 2015.12.05 12:01:11 -
[136] - Quote
Previously I had zero issues with the beta launcher. I've been using it for over a month normally I just leave it open though it kinda uses way more RAM than it should
Apart from Copying over client settings has never worked, ever, not between accounts, and not between servers. So I just do it manually. Anyway.
Today (and yesterday, I think when it started)
The launcher has been randomly dying. No detailed messages, only launcher is dead RIP launcher.
Now today after down time, I login, I undock, I'm lagging my FPS is rubbish Onoes I think whats going on So I open up resource monitor QTWEBPROCESS which I believe is the system CCP has rigged up for the new launcher Is running at 50% of my CPU... So I (having already realized CCP is using another companies program (QT in this case) I quit the launcher, the launcher quits, no issues But QTWEBPROCESS is still using half my CPU, and shows no indication of stopping
So I kill the process
It would be nice if A) the new launcher actually has a purpose (copying settings) and B) you didn't break it for no reason
Details (on restarting launcher): CPU = 0% evelauncher.exe then boom 20% CPU qtwebprocess.exe then BOOM 44% CPU RAM = QtWebEngineProcess.exe commit 168MB no wait its 178MB no wait its 191MB no wait its 199 no wait its 320MB working 189 not wait its 210MB no wait its 212 no wait its 330MB evelauncher.exe comit 168MB now 178 working 202MB now 214MB
Nothing is coming in on the network So You have a huge memory leak I believe
EDIT: Also this time when I closed the launcher the qtwebprocess didn't have to be killed it died with honor (this time) |
Cor Atin
Redundant Lobotomy Brain Trust CAStabouts
2
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Posted - 2015.12.05 12:06:16 -
[137] - Quote
APPCRASH evelauncher.exe 0.0.0.0 565497d7 atioglxx.dll 6.14.10.12430 525401e5 c0000005 000ff77b 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48 1031 0a9e 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 0a9e 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
... occurs at 16% download of the launcher update. ... occurs at 17% download of the launcher update. ... occurs at 25% download of the launcher update. ... occurs at 27% download of the launcher update. ... occurs at 49% download of the launcher update.
"Do you want to migrate your old settings?" dialogue pops up on a random screen out of three. And then crashes, of course. Or crashes after you are supposed to drag profiles to migrate from left to right. Or freezes once you select the first profile to migrate.
Seriously. This is supposed to be a launcher, a small program that is dedicated to update components before launching the real application. Speaking for the guild this really is rather basic stuff - and definitely not supposed to crash graphics driver components. Even less so in the second or third beta iteration.
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Kefevs Pirkibo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 12:12:25 -
[138] - Quote
Slevin Taranogas wrote:As Drizzd mentioned, with the update to beta launcher, after some period of time (maybe ten minutes) the launcher UI just becomes gray. As in, the entire window just turns gray with no buttons / icons / images / text. The only thing I can do is exit the launcher and restart it. It happens both with the game client running and without. I was using the beta launcher prior to today's patch without this issue.
Seen the same a couple of times yesterday evening. |
Yuna Xaveria
Under Capture Kings
2
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Posted - 2015.12.05 14:16:48 -
[139] - Quote
Cant join Test Server, said my account is not Payed. |
Stefan Silviu
Knowledge is Money - Money is Power
15
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Posted - 2015.12.05 14:19:21 -
[140] - Quote
it goes blank after a while in background
https://i.gyazo.com/6612f6c24ab38460989c18077104d100.png
how do i fix this ? |
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Kal'Han
Win or Die
33
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Posted - 2015.12.05 14:40:42 -
[141] - Quote
you don't fix it. you wait for a new beta version
there is a memory leak in a process launched by the launcher, this process fail and die after eating all the memory it can, then you get that empty screen
close the launcher, then restart the launcher will work (don't to that too quickly so windows can free the ram)
what I do : I launch my clients, and close the launcher before it crashes I don't usually switch toon that much anyway |
Riel Ra'Dib
Casimir Associates
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 15:17:28 -
[142] - Quote
I like the launcher and the flexibility it provides.
My only issue is that the launcher's Windows Taskbar icon and text are very similar to the game's taskbar icon and text. I invariably click the wrong one. Adding "Launcher" to the taskbar text would be appropriate seeing as that's what's up at the top of the thing when you run it and presumably what it is actually named.
http://i.imgur.com/884CO5N.jpg |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.05 15:33:58 -
[143] - Quote
We are investigating a memory leak that is causing crashes in QtWebEngineProcess.exe. Should be fixed soon.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
802
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Posted - 2015.12.05 15:38:11 -
[144] - Quote
Drizzd wrote:Markus Reese wrote:Okay, I have been fighting this for a while.
Cause I have an older SSD, I cannot just have everything going to C: drive. As such, I have symbolic linkings, etc. New beta launcher on trying to start, running as admin, gives the popup that files cannot be found or insufficient permissions.
Is there a folder aside from the users/roaming/CCP folder hiding somewhere on my C drive or another file/folder I am missing? I have a few questions for you 1) what did you use to create those "symbolic links"? - I'd suggest you create not symlinks but "junction" as you seem to be running windows to create them run cmd to get a "dos-window" , then mklink /J linkname real_path I used to link my eve folder entirely to a new harddisk because of the same matters as you have, a small SSD as system drive 2) did you use the launcher or the eve installer to move your shared resource cache to another harddisk - as the CCP's advice says , the shared resource cache is now the biggest part of eve - even more so in the beta launcher the new beta launcher even downloads new eve clients and stores them in the same folder as the shared resource cache - which is also the reason for starting as if eve was newly installed - it creates new settings folders that are empty at first ... Roster so far : eve client 250 to 300 mbyte per client installation shared resource files about 16 gb Thus I get about 17 GB of Shared Cache - the beta launcher stored another 4 eve clients - one for each Server I use (TQ, SISI, Duality, Solace)
Will look up junctions and see. Thanks!
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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CCP raRaRa
C C P C C P Alliance
121
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Posted - 2015.12.05 16:30:51 -
[145] - Quote
GUI 1.731 has been deployed. Should fix the memory leak and the Web GUI crash.
Restart the beta launcher to get the new GUI version.
CCP raRaRa // Web Developer // Team Webster
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Kal'Han
Win or Die
39
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Posted - 2015.12.05 16:46:11 -
[146] - Quote
hovering and clicking on server list make the qtwebengine memory go from around 100M to 300M but it doesn't seems to go over that not approaching the mouse in this region and clicking play keeps the launcher under 150M for QTWebengine
and support and account button do not work anymore, patch note and feedback links works. |
Kerandra Newton
The Mental Asylum Ministry of Agressive Destruction
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 17:07:04 -
[147] - Quote
1. Negative
Sorry it didn't help, although I don't see the memory leak but something is broken and it's gotten even worse.
It turned from: https://i.gyazo.com/6612f6c24ab38460989c18077104d100.png to: http://i.imgur.com/7iKia3q.png
Btw: after the GUI update I got the same QTweb-errors, several client crashes and finally a BSOD.
Then reboot ... started the Beta Launcher, it asked for fixing like someone earlier posted: http://puu.sh/lGJ2Y/f0710da0e5.jpg
Relaunch: Now all settings got lost, no 'old' folder to copy settings ... screwed! I recall you did it years ago ... guys ... I'm using Market-Quickbar to plan Trading and Industry-jobs ... it got killed again. You promissed to fix it 3 or 4 years ago or even tell us before any launcher renames anything in order to save the settings - files.
However rebooted and relaunched ... and I get the white picture above and can't start the launcher at all ... What do??? It's Saturday
2. Question: Why does it say it only works on Windows7 and above ... Is it not possible to run it on VistaUltimate?
3. Writing a ticket and or bug-report in a few. |
Kefevs Pirkibo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 17:17:31 -
[148] - Quote
The Vertical scaling seems to mostly be based on the number of accounts inserted. Scale down the window in height and you get that annoying scroll bar on the accounts. I would actually rather see the ads moving out of the way. I've seen the ads - all day actually, lets move on.
Horizontally the launcher width is not used very much. I would like to have more information for each account. As I suggest bellow. Yes I do like the background picture, but it is a launcher.
- Separate the regular game profiles from the screen selection, make both profile selection and screen selection a per account pull down menu.
- When reducing the size of the launcher vertically, shrink or move the ads to make space for the accounts part. This to reduce the number of times the scroll bar on the accounts is used.
- Right after the account name have pictures of each of the char's on that account.
- Please make the "Unlink Account" a bit smaller or harder to hit. It is so right next to profile selection I have managed to hit it multiple times.
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2121
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Posted - 2015.12.05 21:06:55 -
[149] - Quote
Under Settings -> Language, the language selection options should not be hidden in a drop down menu with so much blank space available. Instead, the available languages should be displayed as rectangular buttons and the active language should be highlighted in blue.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Xenurian Isagar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 22:20:38 -
[150] - Quote
Hey There Dident see a bug report in the client so guess the reports should go here
I have a setup with 3 1920*1080 monitors So normally i start up 3 clients . And then i set them up so i have one client in each monitor. Unfortunally i have to change to the correct monitors each time as they all default to monitor 1 Thats with the normal client.
So lets try the beta client and see if it remember my settings I start up 3 clients and change the first from monitor 1 to monitor 2 Then i cllick on the second client and change it from monitor 1 to monitor 3 But the first client then goes down to taskbar again:( So using the beta client i can only have 1 client up at one time.
Have anyone been able to have 2 or more client up at the same time on different monitors using the beta client?
Thanks for your time, and sorry for my poor english:P |
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Kefevs Pirkibo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 22:36:14 -
[151] - Quote
Xenurian Isagar wrote:Hey There Dident see a bug report in the client so guess the reports should go here
I have a setup with 3 1920*1080 monitors So normally i start up 3 clients . And then i set them up so i have one client in each monitor. Unfortunally i have to change to the correct monitors each time as they all default to monitor 1 Thats with the normal client.
So lets try the beta client and see if it remember my settings I start up 3 clients and change the first from monitor 1 to monitor 2 Then i cllick on the second client and change it from monitor 1 to monitor 3 But the first client then goes down to taskbar again:( So using the beta client i can only have 1 client up at one time.
Have anyone been able to have 2 or more client up at the same time on different monitors using the beta client?
Thanks for your time, and sorry for my poor english:P
Having multiple clients up at a time is not a problem. You would need to 1) have a profile for each screen, or 2) change the monitor when it is started. If you change the screen location it would seem the last client to close a profile overwrites the profile. I have suggested a few improvements in a post above. The profile in addition to containing the screen placement also contain all the game profile settings (chats, and other ingame settings), so I have suggested splitting the ingame settings and the screen selection into two different choices.
I have a profile at present for each screen, but then I need to make modifications ingame if I move char's around.
EDIT: Also, Alt + TAB on Win 7 brings up the choice of your clients so you can get hold of minimized clients. |
Xenurian Isagar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.05 22:52:04 -
[152] - Quote
It works now I made 3 profiles and applied each of them to each client
Also i had forgot to put the clients on fixed windows
Thanks for the help:)
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Richecko
University of Caille Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.12.05 23:42:34 -
[153] - Quote
I use Eve on a laptop in fullscreen mode for performance reasons. I switch between sessions with alt-tab. Now that the launcher makes it easier to be on both Tq and Singularity using the same account and character I find myself using the test server more often.
Right now the window names shown in alt-tab for Sisi and Tq are the same (EVE - CharacterName). To make it easier using alt-tab to select the window for a specific test server, could you add the server name to the window title please?
Thx |
Mad Raptor
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.12.06 00:39:30 -
[154] - Quote
I GÖÑ THE BETA LAUNCHEr
i have a ton of alts, and this makes logging into specific alts quick, easy, and headache free. My god, +1,000,000 for making this simple. |
Segarla
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
0
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Posted - 2015.12.06 02:00:18 -
[155] - Quote
What are the system requirements to run the new Beta Launcher and where are they listed? |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2121
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Posted - 2015.12.06 07:33:08 -
[156] - Quote
I do not believe that the new way of indicating active accounts is a great step forward. Now the name is green, which is better, but also the switch for multi launch is green and does not change state/color when you toggle the switch, which is counter-intuitive. Just see reason and do what I suggested and what you already had in an earlier version of the launcher to indicate active clients. How hard can that be? I mean, it is not like you do not have that already. The tabs in the settings are not underlined; their box is filled with a slightly lighter tone. When you click on one of the options on the left side bar, they splash and fill with color for a moment and do not underline. How can you be so inconsistent?
And a real bug: Under Settings -> Languages, the drop down menu now only has English. All the other languages are gone.
One good thing, however: Clicking on the speech bubble to show notifications now also hides them again. That's good.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Serenit Adoulin
Stille Gewalt Blinky Red Brotherhood
40
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Posted - 2015.12.06 11:23:57 -
[157] - Quote
For some odd reason, my beta launcher can't connect to sisi.
I only get the failed connection exception in the exe window.
However the whole launcher works with TQ (even if the setting export is a bit bugged)
I think this is because eve is not installed at the default location on my HDD. Might be I can fix it by reinstalling eve on the default location and refreshing the launcher. But for now I will probably just stick with the normal one on TQ |
Kerandra Newton
The Mental Asylum Ministry of Agressive Destruction
0
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Posted - 2015.12.06 15:35:46 -
[158] - Quote
Segarla wrote:What are the system requirements to run the new Beta Launcher and where are they listed?
I guess it's a hint for Beta Launcher here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6187253#post6187253
On Vista Beta Launcher works so far.
But the Beta Launcher can not be run on XP, written there: http://updates.eveonline.com/date/2015-10-06/ "A new launcher is here for BETA testing, built from the ground up with your feedback and feature wishlists in mind. This BETA test will only be available in English and will not be available for MAC or Windows XP."
General System Requirements: For Mac OSX10.7 and higher For Windows: Win 7 and higher.
Reason why XP and Vista is not longer supported is because:
"Windows XP and Vista are now in Limited Support. Certain new features, as well as changes to existing content, may possibly not perform correctly on these platforms and certain issues only experienced by users of Limited Support operating systems may not be resolved. One current example of this is the offline installer. While the regular (online) installer will work on Windows XP and issues related to it will receive developer attention, the offline installer will not. Users of Limited Support operating systems may be advised to consider fully supported operating systems to resolve technical issues."
Listed and readable here: https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/202748741-System-Requirements |
Sithlord Revan
Struggle Cuddle Violent Declaration
0
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Posted - 2015.12.06 17:39:43 -
[159] - Quote
Really enjoy using the beta launcher now that I figured out how to migrate my old settings over for each of my accounts.
I especially love the "multi-launch" feature where I can press a button once and launch EVE for all of my accounts without having to type in all of my account names and make sure I clicked "eveexe.exe" enough times. I do have a suggestion though:
SUGGESTION FOR MULTI-LAUNCH - Allow us to set a "target" monitor for each account in the launcher settings (or even in game). I run all of my clients in window mode that is essentially FS window allowing me to tab in and out or have browser windows open. - I always make sure to have certain accounts on one monitor, and other accounts on another monitor. It has to do with screen real-estate and which are more of logistics toons. - One pain in the ass that still exists when launching multiple accounts at once is making sure I drag each window to the proper monitor when I start playing. I haven't yet found a way for EVE to "remember" which monitor I like to run the game, and I doubt even if I did it would be able to remember which preference I had specific to each account.
Otherwise, no real complaints so far. Thanks! |
Kefevs Pirkibo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.12.06 19:28:10 -
[160] - Quote
Sithlord Revan wrote: SUGGESTION FOR MULTI-LAUNCH - Allow us to set a "target" monitor for each account in the launcher settings (or even in game). I run all of my clients in window mode that is essentially FS window allowing me to tab in and out or have browser windows open. - I always make sure to have certain accounts on one monitor, and other accounts on another monitor. It has to do with screen real-estate and which are more of logistics toons. - One pain in the ass that still exists when launching multiple accounts at once is making sure I drag each window to the proper monitor when I start playing. I haven't yet found a way for EVE to "remember" which monitor I like to run the game, and I doubt even if I did it would be able to remember which preference I had specific to each account.
I might have missed the point in your post, but is there a reason why you prefer 'Window mode' over 'Fixed Window' mode? With Fixed window mode you are able to allocate a profile to a particular monitor. The downside is that it also contains all the rest of your settings. Monitor selection is done in the Display & Graphics => Display Adapter. I just changed mine to 'Window mode' and here I see, as you state, that you are unable to use the monitor choice; even though it is selected correctly. |
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Sithlord Revan
Struggle Cuddle Violent Declaration
1
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Posted - 2015.12.06 19:50:09 -
[161] - Quote
Kefevs Pirkibo wrote:Sithlord Revan wrote: SUGGESTION FOR MULTI-LAUNCH - Allow us to set a "target" monitor for each account in the launcher settings (or even in game). I run all of my clients in window mode that is essentially FS window allowing me to tab in and out or have browser windows open. - I always make sure to have certain accounts on one monitor, and other accounts on another monitor. It has to do with screen real-estate and which are more of logistics toons. - One pain in the ass that still exists when launching multiple accounts at once is making sure I drag each window to the proper monitor when I start playing. I haven't yet found a way for EVE to "remember" which monitor I like to run the game, and I doubt even if I did it would be able to remember which preference I had specific to each account.
I might have missed the point in your post, but is there a reason why you prefer 'Window mode' over 'Fixed Window' mode? With Fixed window mode you are able to allocate a profile to a particular monitor. The downside is that it also contains all the rest of your settings. Monitor selection is done in the Display & Graphics => Display Adapter. I just changed mine to 'Window mode' and here I see, as you state, that you are unable to use the monitor choice; even though it is selected correctly.
When I do fixed window mode, it does not allow me to quickly drag an EVE client from one monitor to another. I am aware of the ability to go into the actual windows display settings and mess around in there, but windows Display & Graphics settings are unable to differentiate one EVE client from another (it treats eve.exe as if they are all the same), at least it did the last time I checked.
The nature of my work also warrants minimizing a client here and there to access programs/windows that are 'behind' or 'in front of' one of my eve clients on a monitor. Window mode allows me to easily do that. Fixed window mode does not allow this as easily as I'd want from when I've tried. |
Casey Ambraelle
EVE University Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2015.12.06 23:04:36 -
[162] - Quote
I've started getting nothing but a blank black screen when trying to use the beta launcher. Worked fine on Friday when I got on Solace for a bit |
Arnold Kalashnikov
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.07 06:27:09 -
[163] - Quote
The new launcher looks really great. I miss the old launcher's three or four news stories on the side though. Will that be added in the future? |
Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2123
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Posted - 2015.12.07 13:06:16 -
[164] - Quote
The launcher still does not recognize active clients after a launcher restart.
UI Improvement Collective
My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
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Andrew Xadi
Imperial Guardians SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.12.07 15:45:55 -
[165] - Quote
Launcher should be monitoring network status, becouse if you're not connected to the internet and you launch it and then connect, it won't check for version info so you have to reboot it |
Sarmatiko
1699
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Posted - 2015.12.07 16:09:19 -
[166] - Quote
Small nitpick about "Network diagnostics" tool. Looks like it uses standard command line output for ping, tracert, but fails to handle non-latin code pages (I guess in my case it's CP866 or something else with Cyrillic) |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.07 16:26:44 -
[167] - Quote
Sarmatiko wrote:Small nitpick about "Network diagnostics" tool. Looks like it uses standard command line output for ping, tracert, but fails to handle non-latin code pages (I guess in my case it's CP866 or something else with Cyrillic) Thanks for pointing this out. I've got a Russian sitting next to me, I'll have him help me test this :)
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.07 16:28:16 -
[168] - Quote
Andrew Xadi wrote:Launcher should be monitoring network status, becouse if you're not connected to the internet and you launch it and then connect, it won't check for version info so you have to reboot it Good point, I've meaning to look into this. I actually get this on my laptop at home sometimes, if the launcher tries to refresh after coming back from sleeping before the WiFi connects.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
814
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Posted - 2015.12.07 16:28:36 -
[169] - Quote
Arnold Kalashnikov wrote:The new launcher looks really great. I miss the old launcher's three or four news stories on the side though. Will that be added in the future? That is the plan, yes.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Mad Raptor
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.12.07 16:52:21 -
[170] - Quote
Beta is BETTTTAAAAA
im in love with this, but i do enjoy watching the video updates on drifters and what not. I will not use that other cr** launcher ever again though. |
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Mikadomea Sinklar
Krautfleet Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.08 11:17:45 -
[171] - Quote
I Just noticed another that aside from showing TQ offline from time to time i cant define Test Servers. I Unchecked everything but i still see TQ,SiSi, Duality and Solace. When i check everything i still see the same. |
Sophia Mileghere
Scandium Defense and Security Inc. Dark - Alliance
52
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Posted - 2015.12.08 11:33:57 -
[172] - Quote
The external links for Account and Support are not working. The Server-Status seems incorrect too (for example: it shows online during the downtine) |
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CCP raRaRa
C C P C C P Alliance
123
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Posted - 2015.12.08 17:33:16 -
[173] - Quote
Sophia Mileghere wrote:The external links for Account and Support are not working. The Server-Status seems incorrect too (for example: it shows online during the downtine)
These both should be fixed with GUI 1.732.
Thanks!
CCP raRaRa // Web Developer // Team Webster
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Zhoelm
Alpha Clones
0
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Posted - 2015.12.08 18:01:52 -
[174] - Quote
After the today's patch the beta launcher not able to start my client any more :(
I got an error say some files are missing or corrupted. However the repair tool do not found any error. Moreover I'm able to start a client by the old installer or directly as well. |
Naddy
No Vacancies
0
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Posted - 2015.12.08 18:16:36 -
[175] - Quote
The new launcher should remember, for each server, what profile I select for each account. If I add Account1 and select from the little gear box the "Account1 Char1" profile, then it should remember this for next launcher run.
As it is now, if I add a second account, it auto selects the first profile in the list (which happens to belong to a character from the first account). |
Casey Ambraelle
EVE University Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2015.12.08 22:06:08 -
[176] - Quote
I'm still getting an blank black screen when trying to use the beta launcher. I reinstalled it after my post on the 6th and it worked until today and I'm now getting either a blank black screen or blank white screen |
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
240
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Posted - 2015.12.09 00:15:58 -
[177] - Quote
I am no longer able to use the launcher post patch today.
It complains SharedCache\tq\bin\staticdata\mapObjects.db is corrupted but the original launcher is able to start EVE just fine. http://i.imgur.com/2OYa0d6.png |
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
240
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Posted - 2015.12.09 03:05:19 -
[178] - Quote
I tried deleting that file, the launcher appears to recreate it and it fails again. Old launcher has no issue. |
iwannadig
Mining is prohibited RUST415
23
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Posted - 2015.12.09 08:12:25 -
[179] - Quote
It does not work on Windows XP. This was a bad surprise, you did not mention minimum system requirements. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
816
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Posted - 2015.12.09 09:52:15 -
[180] - Quote
Jack Tronic wrote:I am no longer able to use the launcher post patch today. It complains SharedCache\tq\bin\staticdata\mapObjects.db is corrupted but the original launcher is able to start EVE just fine. http://i.imgur.com/2OYa0d6.png Could you look in %LOCALAPPDATA%\VirtualStore, see if there are any files there? Specifically under CCP - if there are any files there, delete them and restart the launcher.
Please let me know if you find any files there, and if this helps.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
816
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Posted - 2015.12.09 10:30:01 -
[181] - Quote
Another thing to try is to go to Setttings, Shared Cache Settings and hit Verify. That will clear out any corrupt files from the cache. You may need to restart the launcher after running that (something I need to improve).
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Natasha Veritas
Bane and Pain Limited Expectations
5
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Posted - 2015.12.09 11:13:43 -
[182] - Quote
Hello,
since yesterdays patch i can not use the beta launcher, after launching its just a not available website, if i go to "servers" i can launch the exe but something is wrong, would be nice to give us a solution for this.
Here a picture about the visual: http://i.imgur.com/mu7cB7n.png |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
816
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Posted - 2015.12.09 11:19:30 -
[183] - Quote
Natasha Veritas wrote:Hello, since yesterdays patch i can not use the beta launcher, after launching its just a not available website, if i go to "servers" i can launch the exe but something is wrong, would be nice to give us a solution for this. Here a picture about the visual: http://i.imgur.com/mu7cB7n.png Can you access that URL from your web browser? https://launcher.eveonline.com/1.732/
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Natasha Veritas
Bane and Pain Limited Expectations
5
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Posted - 2015.12.09 11:30:27 -
[184] - Quote
Yes i can |
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
240
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Posted - 2015.12.09 12:58:51 -
[185] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:I am no longer able to use the launcher post patch today. It complains SharedCache\tq\bin\staticdata\mapObjects.db is corrupted but the original launcher is able to start EVE just fine. http://i.imgur.com/2OYa0d6.png Could you look in %LOCALAPPDATA%\VirtualStore, see if there are any files there? Specifically under CCP - if there are any files there, delete them and restart the launcher. Please let me know if you find any files there, and if this helps.
Yes there were files and that helped. |
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CCP raRaRa
C C P C C P Alliance
123
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Posted - 2015.12.09 13:31:31 -
[186] - Quote
Natasha Veritas wrote:Yes i can
Is this still a problem? It seems like the launcher is having difficulties decoding the gzip compressed file (index.html). This error usually happens when the file is not gzip compressed but the website tells you its gzip compressed. Might be some hiccup on Amazon.
CCP raRaRa // Web Developer // Team Webster
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Natasha Veritas
Bane and Pain Limited Expectations
5
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Posted - 2015.12.09 13:50:54 -
[187] - Quote
CCP raRaRa wrote:Natasha Veritas wrote:Yes i can Is this still a problem? It seems like the launcher is having difficulties decoding the gzip compressed file (index.html). This error usually happens when the file is not gzip compressed but the website tells you its gzip compressed. Might be some hiccup on Amazon.
Im not the developer
But yes its still a problem. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
816
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Posted - 2015.12.09 15:26:09 -
[188] - Quote
Natasha Veritas wrote:CCP raRaRa wrote:Natasha Veritas wrote:Yes i can Is this still a problem? It seems like the launcher is having difficulties decoding the gzip compressed file (index.html). This error usually happens when the file is not gzip compressed but the website tells you its gzip compressed. Might be some hiccup on Amazon. Im not the developer But yes its still a problem. Maybe there is something going on with caching done by the QtWebEngine. It lives in %LOCALAPPDATA%\CCP\EVE\QtWebEngine. Close the launcher, rename this folder to something else, then restart the launcher. See if that helps.
The drawback is that you lose the accounts you had remembered - you can either add them again, or put the folder back, deleting everything but the LocalStorage folder.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Natasha Veritas
Bane and Pain Limited Expectations
5
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Posted - 2015.12.09 16:11:44 -
[189] - Quote
After renaming the folder like you told it works again, thanks for the solution |
Narkos Fera
Deutsches Produktions- und Handelszentrum SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.12.09 18:21:48 -
[190] - Quote
i got the problem that the BETA launcher seems to have problems with downloads or the shared data.
it want to download 240MB but only download nearly 1% /hour. i have 50mbit/s and all the other stuff (you know, porn for...research) works fine.
restart or search for corrupted data didnt work, still the same slow download. |
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3470
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Posted - 2015.12.09 18:56:21 -
[191] - Quote
i have the same problem. diagnostics sais client.eveonline.com is not reachable. rest was fine.
i am trying the old launcher as we speak and it seems like its stuck too.
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Narkos Fera
Deutsches Produktions- und Handelszentrum SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.12.09 19:29:25 -
[192] - Quote
Bienator II wrote:i have the same problem. diagnostics sais client.eveonline.com is not reachable. rest was fine.
i am trying the old launcher as we speak and it seems like its stuck too. edit: old launcher worked after closing and opening it again :P
sadly, this wont work for me, old launcher is also very slow, cant build up all the pictures and wont even try to connect for updates
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Casey Ambraelle
EVE University Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2015.12.09 22:16:44 -
[193] - Quote
Reinstalled beta launcher again yesterday after getting nothing but a blank white or black screen and having the same issue again today. Can we acknowledge that this is an issue? |
Zhoelm
Alpha Clones
0
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Posted - 2015.12.09 22:17:46 -
[194] - Quote
Jack Tronic wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:I am no longer able to use the launcher post patch today. It complains SharedCache\tq\bin\staticdata\mapObjects.db is corrupted but the original launcher is able to start EVE just fine. http://i.imgur.com/2OYa0d6.png Could you look in %LOCALAPPDATA%\VirtualStore, see if there are any files there? Specifically under CCP - if there are any files there, delete them and restart the launcher. Please let me know if you find any files there, and if this helps. Yes there were files and that helped.
Same here: deleted those files and have no problems so far. Thanks.
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
240
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Posted - 2015.12.10 00:12:33 -
[195] - Quote
Something else that is driving me insane.
I use my clients in "windowed" mode. But launching the clients results in them not taking their previous window resolution.
My profiles are setup: http://i.imgur.com/NttB2bp.png http://i.imgur.com/iUPMg4y.png
This is how it looks when launched. http://i.imgur.com/wQ08PKb.png
These are the display settings before I expand: http://i.imgur.com/Jr89fKA.png
These are the eve settings after I expand the window. http://i.imgur.com/292PA7i.png
But after I close the client they reset back to the 1024. BUT settings for other things get remembered just fine per client.
I expand the window by "maximizing" it rather than stretching. |
Kal'Han
Win or Die
45
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Posted - 2015.12.10 00:33:58 -
[196] - Quote
Jack Tronic wrote:Something else that is driving me insane. I use my clients in "windowed" mode. But launching the clients results in them not taking their previous window resolution. ------snip I expand the window by "maximizing" it rather than stretching.
welcome to the club. windowed mode, full screen. best way to play multi client on a single screen and not spam alt+tab all day long.
CCP has somewhere, somewhat decided that "windowed" mode needed a resolution setting instead of windows status setting no one else does, but did that ever stop ccp? ;)
so windowed mode has a stupid dropdown setting for resolution... AND IT CANNOT BE SET. infuriating. and of course it doesn't rememeber the "maximized" status, only a default resolution that is changeable through a lot of clics...
I'm going to offer you "my" version of the workaround : a script that will maximize the all the eve clients launched with a bonus, it also minimize backround client (unfocused ones) to save the earth by consuming less cpu and gpu this is optional but ideal for mono screen. just copy the script in the launcher folder, run it to launch the launcher (yeah, lol, a launcher's launcher.... but hey, you do what you can as you can, the post explains how to make a shortcut to the make a nice icon and make it look like the real launcher) this link in eve, follow the instructions
if you don't want minimizing : put a sharp (#) before this line
[UserWindows]::ShowWindowAsync($hwnd, 2)|out-null # 6 = we minimize the windows near the bottom
not fun stuff about that : new eve launcher is clearing all the files in the launcher folder, so each patch you need to re-copy the script in the launcher folder. I did ask a few times here to stop deleting files from my computer, bah, I worked around that |
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
240
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Posted - 2015.12.10 02:34:42 -
[197] - Quote
Kal'Han wrote:Jack Tronic wrote:Something else that is driving me insane. I use my clients in "windowed" mode. But launching the clients results in them not taking their previous window resolution. ------snip I expand the window by "maximizing" it rather than stretching. welcome to the club. windowed mode, full screen. best way to play multi client on a single screen and not spam alt+tab all day long. CCP has somewhere, somewhat decided that "windowed" mode needed a resolution setting instead of windows status setting no one else does, but did that ever stop ccp? ;) so windowed mode has a stupid dropdown setting for resolution... AND IT CANNOT BE SET. infuriating. and of course it doesn't rememeber the "maximized" status, only a default resolution that is changeable through a lot of clics... I'm going to offer you "my" version of the workaround : a script that will maximize the all the eve clients launched with a bonus, it also minimize backround client (unfocused ones) to save the earth by consuming less cpu and gpu this is optional but ideal for mono screen. just copy the script in the launcher folder, run it to launch the launcher (yeah, lol, a launcher's launcher.... but hey, you do what you can as you can, the post explains how to make a shortcut to the make a nice icon and make it look like the real launcher) this link to another post, follow the instructions if you don't want minimizing : put a sharp (#) before this line [UserWindows]::ShowWindowAsync($hwnd, 2)|out-null # 6 = we minimize the windows near the bottom not fun stuff about that : new eve launcher is clearing all the files in the launcher folder, so each patch you need to re-copy the script in the launcher folder. I did ask a few times here to stop deleting files from my computer, bah, I worked around that alternatively, you could put the script wherever you want and change the line $app = Start-Process EveLauncher.exe -passthru by adding the fullpath to EveLauncher.exe $app = Start-Process "c:\stupid path with spaces\somewhere\notice_the_quotes\EveLauncher.exe" -passthru have fun, if you want to discuss this further, use the post I gave above, also there player project of multi screen launch in the tech lab forum.
I am not even trying to multiscreen launch most of the time. It affects a single client which is the most infuriating. I play windowed mode because I multitask to ****. Fullscreen is a horrible mode for multitasking and "Fixed window" may as well have its own monitor. |
Rainbow Prism Colorblind
United Electro-Magnetic Federation Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
5
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Posted - 2015.12.10 06:12:27 -
[198] - Quote
A small suggestion for the beta client if it not come up before.
I like the idea of have multiple log in at the same time. But is it possible to have an option to add a master login key into the client locally on your machine?
For the people who plan to perhaps save there different passwords for there different clients and just use one master password every time they start the game?
No need to have the master key saved on the server sense its just a extra security for us paranoid eve people! |
Narkos Fera
Deutsches Produktions- und Handelszentrum SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.12.10 06:33:52 -
[199] - Quote
Narkos Fera wrote:Bienator II wrote:i have the same problem. diagnostics sais client.eveonline.com is not reachable. rest was fine.
i am trying the old launcher as we speak and it seems like its stuck too. edit: old launcher worked after closing and opening it again :P sadly, this wont work for me, old launcher is also very slow, cant build up all the pictures and wont even try to connect for updates edit: and it seems also all my patch datas where deleted. at least in my patch folder.
yeah, for some reason the beta deleted all my saved patches. their isnt even any option in the beta launcher for deleting all patches after the download. and even if so, why the hell where they all deleted? now i have to patch again with a 30GB data traffic internet connection. im really pissed right now, he even deleted them in my backup file.
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Tarsas Phage
Freight Club
406
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Posted - 2015.12.10 09:20:48 -
[200] - Quote
Launcher version 990283 on Windows 10 Pro
Two errant behaviors:
1) Immediately upon startup, the launcher will enter into a "Not responding" state and the user is prompted by Windows to kill it. evelauncher.exe nor its child processes consume any CPU during this time according to Task Manager. The mouse cursor is a spinning ring of death when moved over the UI.
and on the rare occasion that it doesn't do that:
2) The UI will be sluggish. Mousing over the UI elements which highlight themselves becomes a laggy afair. If I watch evelauncher.exe in Task Manager while I scrub my mouse over the face of the Launcher window, regardless of the location of the mouse cursor, the process consumes up to 20% CPU until I stop scubbing my mouse. Actually trying to launch a client fails to happen.
However, the right-click context menu for the task tray icon reacts speedily.
One minor issue:
1) The network test function where it pings client.eveonline.com will fail in all cases as ICMP appears to be blocked for that address. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 09:32:45 -
[201] - Quote
Tarsas Phage wrote:Launcher version 990283 on Windows 10 Pro
Two errant behaviors:
1) Immediately upon startup, the launcher will enter into a "Not responding" state and the user is prompted by Windows to kill it. evelauncher.exe nor its child processes consume any CPU during this time according to Task Manager. The mouse cursor is a spinning ring of death when moved over the UI.
and on the rare occasion that it doesn't do that:
2) The UI will be sluggish. Mousing over the UI elements which highlight themselves becomes a laggy afair. If I watch evelauncher.exe in Task Manager while I scrub my mouse over the face of the Launcher window, regardless of the location of the mouse cursor, the process consumes up to 20% CPU until I stop scubbing my mouse. Actually trying to launch a client fails to happen.
However, the right-click context menu for the task tray icon reacts speedily.
One minor issue:
1) The network test function where it pings client.eveonline.com will fail in all cases as ICMP appears to be blocked for that address. Does this also happen in the release version (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-988834.exe) or is it new to this dev version?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Tarsas Phage
Freight Club
406
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Posted - 2015.12.10 09:36:57 -
[202] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote:Launcher version 990283 on Windows 10 Pro
Two errant behaviors:
1) Immediately upon startup, the launcher will enter into a "Not responding" state and the user is prompted by Windows to kill it. evelauncher.exe nor its child processes consume any CPU during this time according to Task Manager. The mouse cursor is a spinning ring of death when moved over the UI.
and on the rare occasion that it doesn't do that:
2) The UI will be sluggish. Mousing over the UI elements which highlight themselves becomes a laggy afair. If I watch evelauncher.exe in Task Manager while I scrub my mouse over the face of the Launcher window, regardless of the location of the mouse cursor, the process consumes up to 20% CPU until I stop scubbing my mouse. Actually trying to launch a client fails to happen.
However, the right-click context menu for the task tray icon reacts speedily.
One minor issue:
1) The network test function where it pings client.eveonline.com will fail in all cases as ICMP appears to be blocked for that address. Does this also happen in the release version (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-988834.exe) or is it new to this dev version?
This happened in the release version as well. I switched to the dev version to see if there was any difference, but there was not.
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
816
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Posted - 2015.12.10 10:14:54 -
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Tarsas Phage wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote:Launcher version 990283 on Windows 10 Pro
Two errant behaviors:
1) Immediately upon startup, the launcher will enter into a "Not responding" state and the user is prompted by Windows to kill it. evelauncher.exe nor its child processes consume any CPU during this time according to Task Manager. The mouse cursor is a spinning ring of death when moved over the UI.
and on the rare occasion that it doesn't do that:
2) The UI will be sluggish. Mousing over the UI elements which highlight themselves becomes a laggy afair. If I watch evelauncher.exe in Task Manager while I scrub my mouse over the face of the Launcher window, regardless of the location of the mouse cursor, the process consumes up to 20% CPU until I stop scubbing my mouse. Actually trying to launch a client fails to happen.
However, the right-click context menu for the task tray icon reacts speedily.
One minor issue:
1) The network test function where it pings client.eveonline.com will fail in all cases as ICMP appears to be blocked for that address. Does this also happen in the release version (https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-988834.exe) or is it new to this dev version? This happened in the release version as well. I switched to the dev version to see if there was any difference, but there was not. Can you send me the logs from the launcher? They're in %LOCALAPPDATA%\CCP\EVE\Launcher - file a bug report and attach them.
Do you have Norton or something like that?
Do you have ownership of the folder you installed the launcher in? And the shared cache folder?
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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T''pol
Seabass with freakin' lasers on their heads
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Posted - 2015.12.10 20:16:07 -
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You went Qt way, that is awesome! But here is my input on new Launcher: 1) Actions in SystemTrayIcon context menu spawn new Dialogs every time triggered. Result is ... well it's not cool) Same actions run from dropdown menu (next to minimize and close btns) results in dialogs being modal (which is cool). 2) Network diagnostics dialog troubles displaying locale-aware text , in my case Cyrillic. But i guess someone already mentioned C866 earlier
Usage of cromium webengine is showing - 240 mb of RAM used for QtWebengineprocess + another 50mb for launcher itself... Btw why run webengine in separated process? |
Dutchman Flaying
Orange Leeuw Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.10 21:36:44 -
[205] - Quote
Dear CCP,
I like to see the LATEST NEWS at the new launcher (for now BETA) too. Because it's good to stay have the latest news about EVE...So plz get to them at the new laucher too...
What you have at the above right is not the latest news...i dont like it...
Cheers Dutchman |
Kal'Han
Win or Die
46
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Posted - 2015.12.10 23:14:13 -
[206] - Quote
T''pol wrote:You went Qt way, that is awesome! -snip- Usage of cromium webengine is showing - 240 mb of RAM used for QtWebengineprocess + another 50mb for launcher itself... Btw why run webengine in separated process?
"qt way" is not awesome : because "Usage of cromium webengine is showing - 240 mb of RAM used for QtWebengineprocess + another 50mb for launcher itself... Btw why run webengine in separated process?"
QT is the easy way to get a browser web app on PC and MAC at the same time without having 2 devs team QT is now chrome based which is not what I would call the "best" way to present something especially when you have interference between your chrome personnal settings and the launcher behavior. isolation ffs.
and excuse me but a glorified "light" browser consuming 300MB of active ram, (not counting commited set and virtual) is what a Firefox with 9 tabs of random browsing is consuming right now on a box where I post (or 1 Firefox with a flash plugin lol). I don't care about RAM (I got enough) but the launcher is about 40% of 1 client. or 3 times old launcher... ah well, I guess the minimum HW requirements will change again
so I really don't share your "awesome feeling". I *DO* like the effort and functionalities, all the work being done is amazing (lots of functionalities, devs listening to what community want, nothing to say there) I do appreciate the "future" programming feeling that everyone is going to for the last few years where coders don't have to focus on mastering photoshop. and designer do their job, coders do their jobs. I just have a philosophical problem with QT, and chrome on a general basis.
and that is in now constructive at all, I know. there is no alternative to qt for this, and I am absolutely not asking a change about that, I guess I got ticked off by "awesome"
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MechaJeb Kerman
Concordiat Pandemic Horde
22
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Posted - 2015.12.11 11:14:28 -
[207] - Quote
Tried it today, not sure where the problem is, but might be some incompatibility with older hardware or something.
On launch it freezes up the PC, screen starts flashing from sort of black with cursor visible to completely black as if screen was turned off to whatever this is http://i.imgur.com/MyElzzF.png sometimes to white
then BSOD's with 'Attempt to restart the display driver and recover from timeout failed' 0x116, atikmpag.sys
Card is Asus Radeon HD7770, Windows 7.
I'll crudely Photoshop an image of Helen Thomas onto a picture of your choosing for 30m. PM me.
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Kal'Han
Win or Die
47
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Posted - 2015.12.11 21:59:45 -
[208] - Quote
MechaJeb Kerman wrote:then BSOD's with 'Attempt to restart the display driver and recover from timeout failed' 0x116, atikmpag.sys
Card is Asus Radeon HD7770, Windows 7.
ok so the ati problems ppl are reporting for game graphic issue is now causing issue...meh
do you have chrome installed on your computer ? if so, can you go ahead and try to disable hardware acceleration? ( link to a HowTo )
I see Firefox, maybe chrome is installed? no idea if it is relevant but some issues were once reported of chrome settings interfering with launcher
also what is your graphic driver version? latest crimson or some older one? |
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
240
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Posted - 2015.12.13 05:43:15 -
[209] - Quote
Kal'Han wrote:T''pol wrote:You went Qt way, that is awesome! -snip- Usage of cromium webengine is showing - 240 mb of RAM used for QtWebengineprocess + another 50mb for launcher itself... Btw why run webengine in separated process? "qt way" is not awesome : because "Usage of cromium webengine is showing - 240 mb of RAM used for QtWebengineprocess + another 50mb for launcher itself... Btw why run webengine in separated process?" QT is the easy way to get a browser web app on PC and MAC at the same time without having 2 devs team QT is now chrome based which is not what I would call the "best" way to present something especially when you have interference between your chrome personnal settings and the launcher behavior. isolation ffs. and excuse me but a glorified "light" browser consuming 300MB of active ram, (not counting commited set and virtual) is what a Firefox with 9 tabs of random browsing is consuming right now on a box where I post (or 1 Firefox with a flash plugin lol). I don't care about RAM (I got enough) but the launcher is about 40% of 1 client. or 3 times old launcher... ah well, I guess the minimum HW requirements will change again so I really don't share your "awesome feeling". I *DO* like the effort and functionalities, all the work being done is amazing (lots of functionalities, devs listening to what community want, nothing to say there) I do appreciate the "future" programming feeling that everyone is going to for the last few years where coders don't have to focus on mastering photoshop. and designer do their job, coders do their jobs. I just have a philosophical problem with QT, and chrome on a general basis. and that is in now constructive at all, I know. there is no alternative to qt for this, and I am absolutely not asking a change about that, I guess I got ticked off by "awesome"
QT does not use chrome, it uses chromium. Chrome contains chromium. Chromium is not chrome. Embedded Chromium DOES NOT USE YOUR CHROME SETTINGS.
>and excuse me but a glorified "light" browser consuming 300MB of active ram Only 100mb between the two processes here, and I keep the launcher open for days on end as my computer never turns off. |
Aimie Xadi
Xadi's Ind
0
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Posted - 2015.12.13 10:54:14 -
[210] - Quote
Good idea would be if launcher would download updates after downtime so you don't have to reset it. |
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
818
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Posted - 2015.12.13 12:17:00 -
[211] - Quote
Aimie Xadi wrote:Good idea would be if launcher would download updates after downtime so you don't have to reset it. It checks for updates every 15 minutes. You can also refresh manually from the drop down menu.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Aimie Xadi
Xadi's Ind
0
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Posted - 2015.12.14 14:45:59 -
[212] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Aimie Xadi wrote:Good idea would be if launcher would download updates after downtime so you don't have to reset it. It checks for updates every 15 minutes. You can also refresh manually from the drop down menu.
Oh, well i didn't even realized it was there :) So maybe it would be better, it it would be a bit more conspicuous |
ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
43
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Posted - 2015.12.14 23:22:39 -
[213] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Andrew Xadi wrote:Launcher should be monitoring network status, becouse if you're not connected to the internet and you launch it and then connect, it won't check for version info so you have to reboot it Good point, I've meaning to look into this. I actually get this on my laptop at home sometimes, if the launcher tries to refresh after coming back from sleeping before the WiFi connects.
Probably related, as I had mentioned in a separate thread first: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6214860#post6214860
Though Andrew doesn't mention a dialog popping up;
Quote:With a recent update to the launcher, everytime after I wake up my PC from hibernation, the launcher pops up a "Diagnose network problems" dialog ("An error was encountered while downloading (see log for details). Do you want to run network diagnostics?".
Please make the launcher a bit smarter and not shove this dialog to the top after waking up my pc.
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Richecko
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2015.12.15 00:42:49 -
[214] - Quote
I got a new laptop, and the default and preferred screen resolution is 3200x1800.
The installer window does not size the same way as on my other lower resolution machines. I had used the launcher installer before so I knew what to do, but a new player with this resolution might have problems operating the installer. http://i64.tinypic.com/2afbnso.jpg
When installed the text is so small the launcher is hard to operate. Could the new launcher be enhanced with a setting that automatically or manually via a setting makes everything 2x or 3x bigger on 3200x1800 displays?
Here's what it looks like now:
http://i68.tinypic.com/8wm8mw.jpg
Other web applications like the forums, and Microsoft apps like control panels automatically scale enough that you can read the text.
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Henry Noir
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.15 08:31:22 -
[215] - Quote
My launcher is in endless install loop to install version 988834 after it seems to finish withoug any complaints, it will start installing it again immediately. If I click cancle, then it will start this loop again in 15 minutes
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
818
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Posted - 2015.12.15 14:39:27 -
[216] - Quote
Henry Noir wrote:My launcher is in endless install loop to install version 988834 after it seems to finish withoug any complaints, it will start installing it again immediately. If I click cancle, then it will start this loop again in 15 minutes
Try running as administrator - there might be some permission issues.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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Mintoko
Taedium In Perpetuam
23
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Posted - 2015.12.15 15:22:43 -
[217] - Quote
Henry Noir wrote:My launcher is in endless install loop to install version 988834 after it seems to finish withoug any complaints, it will start installing it again immediately. If I click cancle, then it will start this loop again in 15 minutes
I've seen that happen 2-3 times during development. It's usually corrected by manually installing the new version. But, 988834 seems to be greatly behind the current release version of 991682.
You can directly download the launcher here: Version 988834: https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-988834.exe Version 991682: https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-991682.exe
or...You can get the launcher to download the latest development version 991958. It's working fine. |
Henry Noir
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.16 07:38:22 -
[218] - Quote
Mintoko wrote:But, 988834 seems to be greatly behind the current release version of 991682.
I was away from eve for 8 days, which might be too much for eve to handle.
As I manually installed version 991958 in first run it automatically updated itself successfully to verion 991682, which is backwards? But at least it seems to run fine now!
But 991682 version still does not detect after launcher restart if there are eve client processes already running. |
Mintoko
Taedium In Perpetuam
26
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Posted - 2015.12.16 07:49:38 -
[219] - Quote
Henry Noir wrote:As I manually installed version 991958 in first run it automatically updated itself successfully to verion 991682, which is backwards?
That's because you have it set to Release/Beta instead of Development. At the moment, the development version is 992053. |
Kal'Han
Win or Die
49
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Posted - 2015.12.16 08:47:57 -
[220] - Quote
and you shouldn't be using "dev" version (ever !!)
it is stated as highly experimental and should only be used if asked by the devs. so 991682 is fine.
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SillyWaif
38
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Posted - 2015.12.16 10:21:32 -
[221] - Quote
CCP Snorlax wrote:Henry Noir wrote:My launcher is in endless install loop to install version 988834 after it seems to finish withoug any complaints, it will start installing it again immediately. If I click cancle, then it will start this loop again in 15 minutes
Try running as administrator - there might be some permission issues.
Running as administrator doesn't help.
Verified cache, stopped launcher, restarted with admin privileges , downloaded the update again, ran the update and the loop is back in place. Filed a bugreport about it but its essentially: 'stuck in a loop'. Same as ^^ Henry Noir
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Henry Noir
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.16 10:41:20 -
[222] - Quote
SillyWaif wrote:Verified cache, stopped launcher, restarted with admin privileges , downloaded the update again, ran the update and the loop is back in place. Filed a bugreport about it but its essentially: 'stuck in a loop'. Same as ^^ Henry Noir
I got out of that loop when I manually installed version 991958 into separate folder and copied characters/setups manually to new folder, try that one. |
Mintoko
Taedium In Perpetuam
26
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Posted - 2015.12.16 11:07:42 -
[223] - Quote
Kal'Han wrote:and you shouldn't be using "dev" version (ever !!) it is stated as highly experimental and should only be used if asked by the devs. so 991682 is fine.
No one said that you shouldn't. It is as you said "experimental" and subject to breakage. How else can it be bug-checked? |
Fernandus Porsche
Applied Anarchy ChaosTheory.
7
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Posted - 2015.12.16 14:48:14 -
[224] - Quote
http://imgur.com/n17RXCe
tranquility version 991576 launcher version 991682
eve not booting up for me right now
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CCP Snorlax
C C P C C P Alliance
818
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Posted - 2015.12.16 14:57:55 -
[225] - Quote
Fernandus Porsche wrote:http://imgur.com/n17RXCe tranquility version 991576 launcher version 991682 eve not booting up for me right now edit= running as admin does not help this time Are there any EVE clients running? Check task manager as well, verify that there are no exefile.exe processes.
Do you have full permissions to the SharedCache folder?
Lastly, you can see in the log (drop-down menu, logging, look for errors) what files it failed to write. See if you can delete those files manually and retry (you can refresh manually from the drop down menu).
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB
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SillyWaif
38
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Posted - 2015.12.16 21:42:50 -
[226] - Quote
Henry Noir wrote:SillyWaif wrote:Verified cache, stopped launcher, restarted with admin privileges , downloaded the update again, ran the update and the loop is back in place. Filed a bugreport about it but its essentially: 'stuck in a loop'. Same as ^^ Henry Noir
I got out of that loop when I manually installed version 991958 into separate folder, try that one.
Thanks for the tip!
I downloaded https://binaries.eveonline.com/EveLauncher-991682.exe and installed it over the current version and that worked. So the version it was supposed to install itself.
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Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
205
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Posted - 2015.12.17 00:22:37 -
[227] - Quote
halp. http://imgur.com/1IvHoUy
It knows what you think.
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Silver Dagger Kondur
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
53
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Posted - 2015.12.17 01:33:22 -
[228] - Quote
Greets, CCP!
The green selection and the blue + are cool - clean and crisp.
Past 2 versions have had "permissions writing to cache" would you like to fix, issues. (not this current one TQ 991576 with Launcher 991682, GUI 1.734)
Thanks for your continuing work! - Silver Dagger Kondur |
Mintoko
Taedium In Perpetuam
27
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Posted - 2015.12.17 11:17:32 -
[229] - Quote
Version 992560
The server list is not maintaining the chosen profile. It's defaulting to the first listed alphabetically. |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1328
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Posted - 2015.12.17 17:18:17 -
[230] - Quote
How would one go about installing this on the Steam version of EVE? Can the launcher be replaced or something?
My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things!
My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
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Kal'Han
Win or Die
50
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Posted - 2015.12.17 20:13:59 -
[231] - Quote
TigerXtrm wrote:How would one go about installing this on the Steam version of EVE? Can the launcher be replaced or something?
I heard a steam integration was on the way (or something)
BUT you can : remove steam from the picture :)
go there https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203523662-Setting-an-account-name-for-Accounts-created-through-STEAM and create yourself a nice login/user name
then simply run the launcher and forget steam
That, or wait for an update from Devs about steam (which should come rather fast if I interpreted correctly what was said in this thread) |
Richecko
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2015.12.17 23:24:42 -
[232] - Quote
Every time I wake my laptop from sleep, the launcher gives an error. Isn't there an API the launcher could call so that it realizes the computer is waking from sleep, wait for the network to come up, and then only present an error if the network fails to come up?
The workaround is to wait for the network and press the [retry] button or quit the launcher and reopen it. |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1329
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Posted - 2015.12.17 23:44:07 -
[233] - Quote
My account isn't actually a Steam account, I just like to use the Steam version of the game (which I once bought for a second account and Steam cards ). Keeping all my games in one place, it tracks game time and all that jazz. It works fine, except in situations like this where it is apparently a bit restrictive.
My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things!
My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
6330
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Posted - 2015.12.18 10:25:03 -
[234] - Quote
The EVE Launcher has left its beta stage. Please continue feedback and discussions here.
Thank you for all your feedback, assistance and support!
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer - Volunteer Manager
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