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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.22 11:29:00 -
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I am not going to discuss internal Agony issues on this forum nor would I come here to trash you Elena Bothari if the roles were reversed. You disagree with my leadership and my person and that is fine. But I wont be shouted at and cursed at by you on the vent server. I wish you the best of luck in the future and I hope you find someplace in the game that you enjoy more.
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Axhind
Caldari
Ex Coelis
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Posted - 2007.01.22 12:34:00 -
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Well I took one class (recently) and it was great fun, not to mention that I learnt tons. At one point we killed a drake while his buddies stayed close enough to the station to be able to dock (1 BS, 2BCs and at least one AF if I remember the scouts report (didn't really look around while engaging the drake). Not to mention killing a smart bomb tempest with no losses (well actually 1 AU pilot got caught in the blast but none of us students).
Thus I think that most people bashing AU are the ones that were on the receiving end of one of their classes/gangs.
PS: Any chance of wolfpack class at some sane Euro time? (like 18:00 or 19:00 EVE)
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Kazuki Fuse
Nubs.
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:15:00 -
[63]
Agony FTW! I <3 Sever and Christina even though I wasn't able to lure them to the dark side. :(
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Alha Qmar
Caldari
Xenon Logistics
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:59:00 -
[64]
Agony knows how to play a card game, and not be played by it.
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xeom
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.01.22 18:51:00 -
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I am always personaly amazed by Agony unleashed.Their dedication,tactics,and of course balls of steal.
Who would have ever guessing 30 man destroyer blobs would have worked so well?!?!
No sh**.
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"Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
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Nitrogendixoide
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.01.22 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Nitrogendixoide on 22/01/2007 19:16:37
Gharthak,I'm going to have to disagree with you on some points. The Agony guys do have some effective tactics, tactics which the ships you fly cannot easily counter. Sure, they would have a hard time killing your Hyperion with their tech I ships, but you simply cannot lock them and kill them with such a big ship. Your missile ship on your other character is also not well suited for the fight, though it too might be able to stand up to their bombardment. The strenght of the their tactics is not their ability to win even fights but to find fights which are more easily winnable, and picking off targets of opportunity. You remember the fight we had outside of a station where they would warp into points around our blob firing at our warp disruption bubble then warping out before we could hit them. Despite even numbers (though superior ships on our side) we simply could do nothing except try and repair the bubble using remote repairers. There was nothing we could do to take them on with the ships we had available. In fact, we ended up loosing the bubble despite having a chance to refit for repairing it.
I'll grant you this Ghar, they don't excel in slug fests, but they are good, probably better than we are at picking targets of opportunity and taking advantage of that chance. I expect that they would be an effective force to send in ahead of a real invasion, to soften up the residents.
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Hamatitio
Caldari
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.22 23:29:00 -
[67]
fun when you are bored.
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Dez Erichs
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.23 07:22:00 -
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Thank you, Nitrogen! We concentrate on winning with less ISK involved, because any long term engagment will eventually come down to who has more resources. In a battle situation, if there are even forces, the ones who will win are the ones with better tactics, coordination and intel. In asymmetric warfare, AKA guerilla warfare, those who pick fights that they can win will come out ahead as well. If we don't have big ships to slug it out, we will concentrate on what we can take.
One point about our Basic classes using "blobs". Anyone who has been through our classes knows that these fleets are tuned in such a way to be the most effective. We're introducing new players to PvP, we want them to feel comfortable in 0.0 and get kills, so they can build the skills and experience they need to get to the more advanced forms of PvP, such as 1v1s.
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Dez Erichs, Captain, Agony Unleashed "Veni, Vidi, Caedi" |
Sobar
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.02 22:19:00 -
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I can't really comment on AU's alleged "dedication,tactics,and of course balls of steal" since I met them few times only and these fights were OK.
However I have noticed that a lot of AU pilots do not post their loss mails. So whoever is really interested in their true performance and tactics should probably cross reference AU killboard with those of alliances in their current areas of operation. Iron's KB for example :)
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.02.02 22:52:00 -
[70]
 Originally by: Sobar
I can't really comment on AU's alleged "dedication,tactics,and of course balls of steal" since I met them few times only and these fights were OK.
However I have noticed that a lot of AU pilots do not post their loss mails. So whoever is really interested in their true performance and tactics should probably cross reference AU killboard with those of alliances in their current areas of operation. Iron's KB for example :)
Their "public killboard" is not their real killboard. That's only for the classes, which is why it is called "PvP University Killboard" instead of "Agony Unleashed Killboard," although it is hosted through the Agony Unleashed website. Its supposed to be anything killed or lost during a class, but since classes consist of a lot of non-Agony people the commitment to posting losses varies. Although I will atest that they are very careful to generally not lose people during classes, much more careful than maybe during normal engagements.
The real Agony Unleashed killboard is not public, although I wish it was.
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Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.02.03 01:11:00 -
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Farrellus is correct. Our corporate killboard is not public, and we DO post all our losses. We regularly cross check our board with our enemies' and anyone who isn't posting their losses gets drawn and quartered.
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Elena Bothari
CCC Company Inc
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Posted - 2007.02.05 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
..I wont be shouted at and cursed at by you on the vent server.
Apparently this is a right reserved to the CEO. I was shouted at, cursed out and shouted down in a public channel. At least I had the courtesy to refrain from doing so in public, I waited until you and I were alone in a channel to vent my spleen at you.
I stand by my statements. By all means, take the course if you are clueless on PvP. Activity in the corps proper is another story entirely.
Propaganda only works on those who don't know better Rells.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.02.05 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuki Fuse
Agony FTW! I <3 Sever and Christina even though I wasn't able to lure them to the dark side. :(
\o Kazuki. <3 you too. Not everything is black and white though and I'll say that Agony is a different color now than it was when you were with us. 
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J Johnson
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.05 14:12:00 -
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I have crossed passed with agony a number of times and i only have one word to say about them...
"Respect!"
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Kaalen
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kaalen on 05/02/2007 17:37:53
I have been a member of agony for only a very short time, and have shared all of my very few experiences in combat in 0.0 with them and I have no end of respect for all of the members that I have met thus far. And though I am still finding my feet when it comes to PvP, I am having no end of fun flying with Agony. And to be honest, that's all I want. This is a game afterall, if you can't just have some fun with friends then what's the point of it all?
In regards to our tactics and talk of us running from 'fair fights'. From my experience thus far I really have to say that this is completely untrue. In all of the wolfpacks that I have been on so far we have encountered an opponent or opponents that we thought that we MIGHT be able to take, usually in these situations it's a unanimous decision to try anyway, you get far more of a 'buzz' from a fight than you do from a gank. I've experienced varying degrees of success and failure with this but that's usually the outcome of a 'fair fight'.
We will not, however, engage a target that we stand zero chance of beating. Theres a very fine line between bravery and stupidity and I much prefer to fight with my intelligence.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.02.05 21:49:00 -
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I've run into a few Agony gangs, and they seem to be on the right track. Their movements, tactics and target calling seemed to be pretty well organized, which is a big part of any gang PvP. Of course, many of them are still pretty low on the SP ladder, so they generally are disadvantaged against even numbers.
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