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Pottsey Gallente Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.01.11 20:42:00 - [1] I think I might have gone a little too far this time. A Myrmidon with 404 HP/s regen and 50% lowest resistance. ItÆs the ultimate semi expandable PvE ship. The scary thing is this is my weak ship and tank when I want to mess around on a few lvl 3 missions. I often alt tab and donÆt watch what I am doing closely for far to long. I donÆt like to normally show off setups but I just had to share this. Setup classified. http://www.dissonance-corp.com/Files/Myrmidon.JPG I here by personally class Gallente as the best passive tanks in the game. Sure a few ships can match or beat the tank but can they deal high DPS be useful and still tank well? None that I know off. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Tunajuice Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.11 20:45:00 - [2] Do you really need two threads to talk about the same setup? Are you that desperate for praise and attention?
Jarjar exscape corporation	Posted - 2007.01.11 20:45:00 - [3] Very impressive! You can share a few details though, right? First, I take it you use all midslots for the tank, no AB/MWD or web in there? Second, any expensive stuff (deadspace/faction/officer) on that, or just plain T1/named/T2?
Pottsey Gallente Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.01.11 20:55:00 - [4] The other thread started out about something different and was role-played a bit. The setups where not particle or useful in game. This setup is a practical setup although I added it to the other thread near the end I decided it deserves its own thread. If it is to much and enough people complain I will ask a mod to delete this thread. As for cost there is one Dread invul field I bought for 60mill back when I used them and no one else did. Apart from that itÆs all T1 and T2 every slot used for tanking. I never did use AB or need web. I used to use and most likely will go back to fitting one drone tracking module. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Erik Pathfinder Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.11 20:56:00 - [5] Why are Gallente ships such good passive tankers! My Caldari peen is shrivelling at the thought. Dev's, nerf Gallente and boost Caldari some more! --------------- "Run free little vermin, the city is yours!" - Quimby Creator of The Correct Dread(tm) sig
Blind Man Kemono.	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:08:00 - [6] Originally by: Pottsey Setup classified. i lol'ed
Kery Syander Minmatar Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:13:00 - [7] see link Linkage
Metacannibal Gekidoku	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:18:00 - [8] Originally by: Shield Harmonizing x 1 LSE II x 4 DG Invul x 1 SPR I x 3 SPR II x 3 Core Defence Field I x 2 Siege Warfare Implant 5% Shield HP Implant
Pottsey Gallente Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:19:00 - [9] "SPR II x 3" I wish I had those. Will pay a small fortune for them. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:28:00 - [10] prolly fit 1 gang mod 2x invul II 3x LSE II 4x shield power relay that should be just about your setup
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:29:00 - [11] That's scary. If you drop the DG for a T2 you are still left with a decent tank. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
ookke	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:56:00 - [12] usability is "mildly" limited, needs to be in gang with an alt to run those resists, might aswell use that second screen for a logistics ship :p
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:58:00 - [13] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 11/01/2007 21:55:31 Originally by: Pottsey Setup classified. Originally by: Kery Syander see link Linkage Pwned. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Pottsey Gallente Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.01.11 22:13:00 - [14] Edited by: Pottsey on 11/01/2007 22:13:13 ô Pwned.ö Not really that link lists or did list modules that are not out and in game and there is no damage control fitted. But Sarmaul is close and I am sure he will work it out over time now he knows there is no DC fitted. As for those wondering about PvP in the link, yes I do PvP but not real PvP. I do friendly 1v1 matchÆs which doesnÆt really count on this account. For real PvP I have a 2nd account. ThereÆs not really much left to do with Pottsey so going to be playing my PvP account a lot more soon. Which is good news for people who dont like my posts as I wont be posting as much. EDIT: Guess I need reading lessons and a sense of humour implant. He typed DG not DC. He is very close now only 1 thing is wrong. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.11 22:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Pottsey ô Pwned.ö Not really that link lists or did list modules that are not out and in game and there is no damage control fitted. But Sarmaul is close and I am sure he will work it out over time now he knows there is no DC fitted. Yeah, dont take it seriously... just messing with you. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2007.01.11 22:18:00 - [16] So? Fit a decent tank that can fight. Then we'll care more ;) ---------------------------- Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY WTB: Friggin' portrait
Hehulk Black Sea Industries	Posted - 2007.01.11 22:30:00 - [17] Originally by: Nicocat So? Fit a decent tank that can fight. Then we'll care more ;) A battlecruiser passive tank 800 DPS minimium isn't decent? So me how you can do better ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Mush Room Svea Rike Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.01.11 23:19:00 - [18] And yet people complain that the Drakes passive tank is too good.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.11 23:35:00 - [19] Edited by: Gamesguy on 11/01/2007 23:32:20 Originally by: Hehulk Originally by: Nicocat So? Fit a decent tank that can fight. Then we'll care more ;) A battlecruiser passive tank 800 DPS minimium isn't decent? So me how you can do better Great for pve, useless for pvp. However, its nowhere near expendable, with current rig prices. You'd be better off with a t1 raven tbh.
Kldraina	Posted - 2007.01.11 23:42:00 - [20] I always knew the Myrmidon was powerful, but never quite realized how powerful. Too bad I like my Ferox too much to ever fly a Myrmidon. I'm quite sure I'd be more effective in a Myrmidon (not that I actually do enough combat for it to matter).
Kunming Outcasts	Posted - 2007.01.11 23:56:00 - [21] Originally by: Mush Room And yet people complain that the Drakes passive tank is too good. No ppl complain that passive shield tanking is too good, and thats cause it uses no cap and is, with the right setup, more efficient than active shield/armor tanking. Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.12 00:05:00 - [22] "Why are Gallente ships such good passive tankers!" Same thing you get with Dominix or Iteron -- for passive tank the low slots are as important as the mid slots if not more, and some Gallente ships get this layout while Caldari are more mid-slot heavy. Could be quite easily fixed by turning shield power relays into mid slot module, like shield rechargers already are <g>
Dixon Caldari Hells Donkeys	Posted - 2007.01.12 01:13:00 - [23] Pottsey, no matter what these asshats tell you, don't stop posting. I love you! - - - - - - Originally by: Ath Amon as long as there will be such umbalance there is no hope to make ships balanced...
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2007.01.12 01:40:00 - [24] Edited by: Horza Otho on 12/01/2007 01:39:04 :( --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.01.12 03:22:00 - [25] Edited by: Shadarle on 12/01/2007 03:22:22 I'm curious... are people really that unsure of how to achieve such a tank? Obviously it's either PDS or SPR in lows (Pottsey is a PDS fanatic, but you couldn't get 404 hp/s regen with PDS. So that would mean they are definitely SPRs. Obviously there would be 3 rigs, either extender or purger. Pottsey again is a fan of more shields, rather than regen, generally... but in this case I again have to assume she is using Purgers otherwise you couldn't achieve the results listed. I've been drastically updating my spreadsheet lately, so I can't assume it's 100% perfect in its calcs anymore, but I can shoot off some numbers of what I've got so far. Hi's: Whatever Mid's: 4 LSE II, 1 T2 Invuln Lows: 6 SPR I Rigs: 3 Core Defence Field Purger Hardwirings: 5% regen, 5% shields ************************************** Shields - 18907.88 Regen - 119.54 Average Regen / Sec - 158.18 Peak Regen / Sec - 395.44 ........ EM - Expl - Kin - Therm - Avg Resists: 48.25% - 79.30% - 68.95% - 58.60% - 63.78% Tanking: 764 - 1910 - 1273 - 955 - 1225 ************************************** Unfortunately this has a negative cap regen with the invuln active, so it is not indefinite. I also don't know where the last 10 points of regen come from. I can't think of anything I havn't included yet... but this is obviously basically her setup. I think it's extremely silly for her to keep it confidential... if you're going to "brag" or "show off" you might as well teach people at the same time. But maybe she just wanted to see if people could figure it out... which is extremely for passive tanks, since there are very few possible setups. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Valator Uel Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.01.12 03:35:00 - [26] Post an armour tank with the same HP/s that lasts longer than 10min and I'll be impressed. -----------------------------------------------------
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.01.12 03:41:00 - [27] Who cares about armor tanks? What's even the point of that post? This is a shield tanking thread obviously... passive at that. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.01.12 03:43:00 - [28] Edited by: Shadarle on 12/01/2007 03:43:27 I got it now. I finally found how she got 21744 shields. I have 0 clue how she got the regen listed tho... The setup includes 1 extender rig, 2 purger rigs. I show a 149.42 regen time tho instead of 134. So I'm missing 10% somewhere... I'll keep looking to try and find it. EDIT> Ok... if she somehow had two SPR II's and 4 SPR I's then the numbers would work out almost perfectly all around. I personally didn't know SPR II's were out... but if they are and she picked up two then you've got the setup now. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.12 06:03:00 - [29] Edited by: Gamesguy on 12/01/2007 05:59:24 Originally by: Shadarle Edited by: Shadarle on 12/01/2007 03:43:27 I got it now. I finally found how she got 21744 shields. I have 0 clue how she got the regen listed tho... The setup includes 1 extender rig, 2 purger rigs. I show a 149.42 regen time tho instead of 134. So I'm missing 10% somewhere... I'll keep looking to try and find it. EDIT> Ok... if she somehow had two SPR II's and 4 SPR I's then the numbers would work out almost perfectly all around. I personally didn't know SPR II's were out... but if they are and she picked up two then you've got the setup now. Maybe there is an implant for shield hp/recharge time?
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2007.01.12 06:05:00 - [30] Originally by: Shadarle Edited by: Shadarle on 12/01/2007 03:28:38 Edited by: Shadarle on 12/01/2007 03:25:43 Edited by: Shadarle on 12/01/2007 03:22:22 I'm curious... are people really that unsure of how to achieve such a tank? Obviously it's either PDS or SPR in lows (Pottsey is a PDS fanatic, but you couldn't get 404 hp/s regen with PDS. So that would mean they are definitely SPRs. Obviously there would be 3 rigs, either extender or purger. Pottsey again is a fan of more shields, rather than regen, generally... but in this case I again have to assume she is using Purgers otherwise you couldn't achieve the results listed. I've been drastically updating my spreadsheet lately, so I can't assume it's 100% perfect in its calcs anymore, but I can shoot off some numbers of what I've got so far. Hi's: Whatever Mid's: 4 LSE II, 1 T2 Invuln Lows: 6 SPR I Rigs: 3 Core Defence Field Purger Hardwirings: 5% regen, 5% shields ************************************** Shields - 18907.88 Regen - 119.54 Average Regen / Sec - 158.18 Peak Regen / Sec - 395.44 ........ EM - Expl - Kin - Therm - Avg Resists: 48.25% - 79.30% - 68.95% - 58.60% - 63.78% Tanking: 764 - 1910 - 1273 - 955 - 1225 ************************************** Unfortunately this has a negative cap regen with the invuln active, so it is not indefinite. EDIT> I also don't know where the last 10 points of regen come from. I can't think of anything I havn't included yet... but this is obviously basically her setup. I think it's extremely silly for her to keep it confidential... if you're going to "brag" or "show off" you might as well teach people at the same time. But maybe she just wanted to see if people could figure it out... which is extremely for passive tanks, since there are very few possible setups. EDIT 2> I also don't know what the person from the linked site is thinking. He obviously didn't run the numbers or try to calculate them himself or he'd realize there is no Shield Harmonizing link involved. If there was one then the resists would all be quite a bit higher, EM would be well over 50%. EDIT 3> Sorry, I didn't realize she had 21k shields. So there must be either 1-2 PDS (which would also help with the cap regen) or there are extender rigs... but it's hard to tell which because no matter what setup I try I cannot match her numbers exactly. how do you get 48,5% EM resist with one invul II? GJ

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