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El Yatta
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.01.13 13:56:00 -
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Not a major expansion has gone by without new ships: Exodus brought BC and destroyer and barge, Cold War dreads and freighters, RMR had titans, carriers, ms's, recons, dictors. exhumers and command ships, and revelations brought us tier 3 bs and tier 2 bc.
However, what do we need now? People always desire more ships, but most of the tech 1 ship classes have a t2 class, and not many people are calling for T2 capitals. A lot of missing roles are filled now (interdictors, advanced gang-links, assault BC, and EW t2 ships were a godsend, really).
So, what roles are missing?
1) Jump freighter. Carriers being used says it all really.
2) ORE capital (could combine no.1 as well). We know this is coming.
3) Junker/salvage vessel. This is definitely needed, fleshes out the profession a bit. Could either be the t2 mining frigates (bantam inquisitor burst imicus etc), but personally I'd quite like a nice t1 model, perhaps either from all races, or a one-off like Ammatar or ORE again. IT should be suitably beaten up and look like the trash-heap that it is.
4) Archaeology/hacking vessel. Again, either the missing t2 frigates (griffin navitas probe, add a new amarr one), or a nice one-off t1 design, all blinky lights and high tech, civilian-style (make it look like the science vessel from starcraft), say from Society of Conscious Thought or Mordus.
5) Tier 2 destroyer would go down well in many parts.
6) Well, we're down to T2 BS now, and we know how controversial that idea is. I dont personally see the need for any kind of flagship/ubertank/ganglink ship when we have carriers, mothers, titans, AND command ships for more-advanced-than-BC leadership.
So, any more ideas? New ships are always coveted by the playerbase, but now it seems the "obvious" choices (pad out empty categories, make t2 versions of most ships) are running out.
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Rana Ash
Minmatar
Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2007.01.13 13:59:00 -
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A dedicated EW-War ship would be nice too, no guns or missiles..
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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2007.01.13 14:12:00 -
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We don't need more ships, that just waters things down. We need more things to do with the ships we currently have.
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Neon Genesis
Gallente
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.01.13 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 13/01/2007 14:20:50
A good few of the ships in the last patch were unnecessary and useless. Less new ships, more actual content please.
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Nero Scuro
Caldari
Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2007.01.13 14:58:00 -
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What neon said
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Corbin Devereux
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.13 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Corbin Devereux on 13/01/2007 15:08:12
I just want t2 myrmidons.
 Originally by: El Yatta
Could either be the t2 mining frigates (bantam inquisitor burst imicus etc)
You mean navitas not imicus.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
In Articulo Mortis
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Posted - 2007.01.13 15:12:00 -
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Salvage ship would be nice indeed.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.13 15:19:00 -
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i know what u mean and some good suggestions there
i say take very member of staff working on new ships and get them working on helping lag. 
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.01.13 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 13/01/2007 15:19:50
Tech 2 version of the hurricane etc. The devs really designed those ships well, and they have become very popular. Now we would like to fly the t2 versions of them please.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.13 15:33:00 -
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I think 1 and 2 are going to be the same thing, and confirmed as on its way. Any good industrial ship would likely include a large cargo hold (atleast as big as a Carrier, anyway) and beinga capital will be jump capable.
3 would deffinatly be nice- or thy could just add the bonus to the current cargo cruisers (Exeq, for example). If they were to make it a new ship, they could combine 4 into it, for double usefulness.
5- big yes (its now the only class of all the regular ships that only has 1 tier). However, it'dbe nice if they made Destroyers as a whole more useful first.
6- no T2 BS's yet. I think it'd be an unbalancing mistake.
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AdmiralNaismith
The Black Guards
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Posted - 2007.01.13 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: AdmiralNaismith on 13/01/2007 15:33:22
Dedicated suicide ships that cost around 2 billion. Think something bs size, no high slots, but takes out every ship in a titan uber weapon way, with a much smaller radius. And every time it's used, the character's security status drops by 3 points for terrorist actions.
That being (randomly) said...maybe the capital miner/refin. Don't need more ships, just more content.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.13 15:43:00 -
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All I would like to see in the way of new ships is filling out the gaping holes in the faction ships...
I.e. Ammatar, Khanid, Intaki, Thukker, Mordus, Rogue Drones... And whatever other neglected side faction mightbe out there.
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Lunadi
Minmatar
Solar Trade
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Posted - 2007.01.13 15:44:00 -
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IMHO all the types you wrote would be welcome, but I would really appreciate the following:
3) Junker/salvage vessel.
4) Archaeology/hacking vessel.
5) Tier 2 destroyer would go down well in many parts.
Originally by: Nero Scuro
We don't need more ships, that just waters things down. We need more things to do with the ships we currently have.
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Uric Helfast
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.01.13 16:17:00 -
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A dedicated mass cloak ship, something BS size or bigger that generates enough of a cloaking field that everything within 10km is cloaked, or something like that. Kinda like the arbiter in Starcraft.
Maybe not a great idea mechanics wise, but I'm just throwing ideas out there.
Also, if you're gonna start making salvage ships, you should also make salvage drones for when you have to salvage all those wrecks in complexes or space battles.
Maybe some kind of space-borne minelayer? Extra defense for POSes, gatecamps, set up traps when you're preparing for a big fleet battle, etc. Like smartbombs, only not reusable and deployable.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.13 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Uric Helfast
Maybe some kind of space-borne minelayer? Extra defense for POSes, gatecamps, set up traps when you're preparing for a big fleet battle, etc. Like smartbombs, only not reusable and deployable.
mines were tried already. was great fun but OMG lag was aweful.
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Neon Genesis
Gallente
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.01.13 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Uric Helfast
A dedicated mass cloak ship, something BS size or bigger that generates enough of a cloaking field that everything within 10km is cloaked, or something like that. Kinda like the arbiter in Starcraft.
Maybe not a great idea mechanics wise, but I'm just throwing ideas out there.
Also, if you're gonna start making salvage ships, you should also make salvage drones for when you have to salvage all those wrecks in complexes or space battles.
Maybe some kind of space-borne minelayer? Extra defense for POSes, gatecamps, set up traps when you're preparing for a big fleet battle, etc. Like smartbombs, only not reusable and deployable.
Wow this is a really cool idea.
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La Tortura
Infinite Style Incorporated
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.13 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: AdmiralNaismith
Edited by: AdmiralNaismith on 13/01/2007 15:33:22
Dedicated suicide ships that cost around 2 billion. Think something bs size, no high slots, but takes out every ship in a titan uber weapon way, with a much smaller radius. And every time it's used, the character's security status drops by 3 points for terrorist actions.
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Yblarbo Janks
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.13 17:08:00 -
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Janks wants a hippie cruise to carefreely joyride in and pick up the ladies. oooh ya, maaaan. far out.
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.13 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: El Yatta
I dont personally see the need for any kind of flagship/ubertank/ganglink ship when we have carriers, mothers, titans, AND command ships for more-advanced-than-BC leadership.
Loved the post mate, but I gotta disagree here. Some of the smaller PvP corps in Eve who don't have the resources to produce capitals would do well with a smaller platform than a carrier or mother, but more durable than a command ship which is liable to get primaried and ganked.
It would be nice to see Tech II BS, but with limited offense potential (think hardly any hardpoints and gang bonuses specific to the ship), and more of a gang support and personal defense role.
I do agree on the other points though, and can see some pretty interesting ship classes being drawn up from the ideas, especially the dedicated salvage class 
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Donkee Punch
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Posted - 2007.01.13 17:46:00 -
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I'd love to see a dedicated "Hacker / Salvage" ship... few weapons but very good defense and ability to run if jumped.
However that being said.. I'd MUCH rather have CCP clean up the "Lagzilla Monster" and this constant memory leak issue.. New content is great and fun. but reduced lag and greater playability FTW first!!
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James Swindle
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Posted - 2007.01.13 17:56:00 -
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Im sure the miners would like some sort of big ass mining ship that was actually able to defend its self while in 0.0 space.
This ship could use strip miners and a large cargo hole. This ship would have weapons so it can defend its self....however it would only be able to target ships that have targetted it already. This way it can only be used in a defensive capacity.
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ee21k
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Posted - 2007.01.13 18:40:00 -
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We need a dedicated science vessel, bonuses to scanning, probing, ECM, exploration and maybe even salvaging.
why?
FOR SCIENCE!
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AlexCA
Amarr
De Valken BV
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Posted - 2007.01.13 18:40:00 -
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missing amarr frigate?
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ee21k
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Posted - 2007.01.13 18:40:00 -
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We need a dedicated science vessel, bonuses to scanning, probing, ECM, exploration and maybe even salvaging.
why?
FOR SCIENCE!
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AlexCA
Amarr
De Valken BV
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Posted - 2007.01.13 18:40:00 -
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missing amarr frigate?
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El Yatta
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.01.13 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: ee21k
We need a dedicated science vessel, bonuses to scanning, probing, ECM, exploration and maybe even salvaging.
why?
FOR SCIENCE!
As long as it looks like the one from starcraft ofc. "Arrggh, who let these lab monkeys out?" "E = M C... doh, where's my notepad...?"
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Anders Kraneled
untaught
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.01.13 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: AlexCA
missing amarr frigate?
Yes.
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Zaphroid Eulthran
Minmatar
Imperial Visions
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Posted - 2007.01.13 19:09:00 -
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A manufacturers ship,
This is a ship class many people have requested before. bigger than a hauler smaller and considerably cheaper than a freighter, able to do POS resupply but not scoop cans.
Also the mini professions need some ships, maybe one for each of archiology, hacking, salvage etc, (do gas cloud harvesters fit to barges? if not they need a ship as well)
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Bazman
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.13 19:11:00 -
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Capital Warships (All guns, no stupid seige mode buisness or fighter nonsense) /me hides
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.13 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 13/01/2007 19:13:20
Originally by: Bazman
Capital Warships (All guns, no stupid seige mode buisness or fighter nonsense) /me hides
Never actually tried it, but I'd assume a Dread would make fairly awesome traditional warship, fitted properly. With all BS weaponry in the highs, all damage mods and such in most other slots, and with its naturally excellent tank, it'd certainly fill the roll of "Big F-off Battleship" well enough. Pricy though.
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