Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 :: [one page] |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
godders89
|
Posted - 2007.01.26 16:00:00 -
[1]
how about this for a solo lv 4 nighthawk setup
6 heavy missile launchers
1 10mn Ab T2 2 large shield extender T2 1 Invul T2 1 passive em T2
2 ballistic control T2 3 shield power relay
1 em rig 1 rof rig
|
Kehmor
Caldari PAK
|
Posted - 2007.01.26 16:18:00 -
[2]
why passive em? you might aswell use your cap for something
|
Local pusher
|
Posted - 2007.01.26 16:56:00 -
[3]
6x dg heavy gist xl, 2x dg invul, pith b-type em 3x dg bcu, 2x ts pdu 2x semiconductor memory cell
It's a bit pricey though.
|
godders89
|
Posted - 2007.01.26 19:45:00 -
[4]
Originally by: Kehmor why passive em? you might aswell use your cap for something
passive em because the 3 spr's and ab will kill ts cap prety fast
|
Terrance O'Conner
|
Posted - 2007.01.28 11:39:00 -
[5]
6 x Hvy t2 something else (i use drone link)
Gist large Boost amp t2 2 x Res amp t2 Cap-recharger t2
4 x BCU t2 named DCU
2 x Cap-recharge rigs
Will perma-boost and tank full aggro on most lvl4 missions With lvl:5 in cap skills you could perhaps ditch the cap-recharger for another boost amp/res amp/hardener, but would require CPU upgrade, or 5% lower launcher cpu implant
|
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
|
Posted - 2007.01.28 16:52:00 -
[6]
6x HML II
3x LSE II 2x rat specific hardener
2x BCU II 3x PDU II
5x light drones
2x shield recharge rig
You'll have around 95-100shield/sec peak regen. If you're killing Serpentis or Guristas you'll have more than enough of a tank.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
|
Yarek Balear
The Initiative SMASH Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.01.28 17:08:00 -
[7]
I've never been entirely comfortable with passive tanking (more to do with me than any flaw in the theory).
My setup for LVL4s solo is:
High: 6 x HML II Med: 1 Gisti B-Type Large SB, 3 Invul IIs, 1 Medium Cap Injector Low: 2 PDU II, 3 BCU II Rigs: 1 Warfare Calefaction Catalyst, 1 Core Defence Operational Solidifier
Dronebay: 5 Hobgoblin IIs
Seems to do fine on most missions, although had to warp out in 3rd stage of a Pirate mission when 8 BS, multiple cruisers and frigs all engage at once. 2nd round was fine after taking out most of the frigs and a few cruisers first time round.
Cheers, Yarek.
|
Alpine 69
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
|
Posted - 2007.02.06 11:14:00 -
[8]
6x HML II 1x Medium Nosferatu II
2x Gistii a-type small shield booster 1x Gist b-type Shield boost amp 1x Photon scattering field II 1x Invulnerabilty field II
2x Ballistic control unit II 2x Power diagnostic unit II 1x Damage control system II
5x Hobgoblin II
not sure about rigging yet, i think 1x rof and 1x cap recharge or for tanking 1x shield boost cycle and 1x shield boost cap. eeeeeeek my sig got nerfed again :( |
Gee'Kin'Lam
|
Posted - 2007.02.06 11:20:00 -
[9]
and again :
6 x heavy l t2
1 gisti large repper 1 amp t2 1 inv t2 2 rat specific rat hardners t2
1 damage control t2 3 pdu t2 1 cap relay
1 cap rig tier 1
u leave 1 rig port open for something u like.
Inf tank - no warp outs lvl 4 running.
Ps. Maxed out engineering / and missle skills (heavy spec lvl 5 in 2 days )
enjoy.
|
Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
|
Posted - 2007.02.06 12:59:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Pottsey on 06/02/2007 12:57:31 öOriginally by: Gee'Kin'Lam 6 x heavy l t2 1 gisti large repper 1 amp t2 1 inv t2 2 rat specific rat hardners t2 1 damage control t2 3 pdu t2 1 cap relay 1 cap rig tier 1ö
Surly replaceing the PDUÆs, cap relays and cap rig for shield relays T2 and a purger rig and the amp and gistis mod for large shield extenders T2 then replace the damage control with a PDS T2 and you would get a much tougher tank with more HP regen. The ships made to passive tank I dont see any point in active tanking it.
Passive shield tanking guide click here |
|
Maverick Aeldrin
|
Posted - 2007.02.06 13:28:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Pottsey The ships made to passive tank I dont see any point in active tanking it. [/quote
I realize this is a "nighthawk solo" thread, but take that nighthawk into a gang and use the sheild cap reducer and run a gist XL inifintely with space for a shield amp, 3 hardners, and a damage control module.
with a low-grade crystal set it spits out 318.4 hp/sec boosting (not counting regen with 4 T2 PDU in low for an additional 30-40) 3 hardners, Damage control to help mitigate damage and you can afk-tank and have fun blasting away with another ship designed exclusively for ganking.
|
Calprimus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
|
Posted - 2007.02.06 13:42:00 -
[12]
Edited by: Calprimus on 06/02/2007 13:40:03 Edited by: Calprimus on 06/02/2007 13:39:14 Very similar to Alpine:
6x HML II or 6x DG HML 1x Railgun 250mm II
2x Gistii a-type small shield booster 1x DG Shield boost amp 1x Invulnerability Field II 1x LSE II
3x DG Ballistic control unit 1x Power diagnostic unit II 1x Damage control system II
5x Hobgoblin II
Hre same doubts about rigs (atm, none) 1x shield boost cycle and 1x shield recharger, or 2x of one of the mentioned types.
|
Denrace
Amarr JEM Industries
|
Posted - 2007.02.06 13:42:00 -
[13]
Thus far, I have been able to run EVERY Level 4 mission without needing to warp out at all. Not even close.
Its completely possible with decent skills and just T2 gear.
HIGH: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II's 1x Whatever, no dire need to have anything here really
MED: 1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Invulnerability Field II 1x Large Shield Extender II 1x Rat Specific T2 Hardner 1x 10MN ABII OR Another 55% Hardner OR SBA II
As you can see, the mids vary. If the mission requires lots of flying around, strap on an Afterburner. If you need more tanking, fit an extra rat specific hardner. If the mission is already very easy, just put a SBA II there or whatever you like really.
LOW: 2x BCU II 3x PDU II
There you have it. No need for faction gear, so ideal for someone who has just got themselves a Nighthawk and doesn't want to risk a Billion ISK fitting on their first few missions.
Fly safe!
Den ________________________________________
|
Basileus
|
Posted - 2007.03.10 23:12:00 -
[14]
HIGH: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II's 1x Salvager
MED: 1x Domination AB 1x Pithum A-type Medium Shield booster 1x Invulnerabilty Field T2 1x Gisti C-type Photon 1x Shield Amp
LOW: 3x Ballistic Control T2 1x PDS T2 1x Internal Force Field Array
RIGS: 1x Capacitor Control Circuit T2
Haven't decided on the 2nd rig yet, but tbh, I'm not sure if I could give a toss. I'm sick of fittings like the one above. Takes flippin' millions to fit a ship, and it's only for PvE lvl 4. No way I would take this baby out for PvP. What's the ******* point?!
|
lee kemp
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 05:35:00 -
[15]
6x HML II 1x tractor beam
2x Gistii a-type small shield booster 1x (tec2) Shield boost amp 1x 10mn ab (tec2) 1x Invulnerabilty field II
3x Ballistic control unit II 2x Power diagnostic unit II (or true sansha) 1x Damage control system II
5x Hobgoblin II
|
Basileus
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 10:41:00 -
[16]
Originally by: lee kemp 6x HML II 1x tractor beam
2x Gistii a-type small shield booster 1x (tec2) Shield boost amp 1x 10mn ab (tec2) 1x Invulnerabilty field II
3x Ballistic control unit II 2x Power diagnostic unit II (or true sansha) 1x Damage control system II
5x Hobgoblin II
WTB Nighthawk with 6 low slots.
|
LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 11:47:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Basileus
Originally by: lee kemp 6x HML II 1x tractor beam
2x Gistii a-type small shield booster 1x (tec2) Shield boost amp 1x 10mn ab (tec2) 1x Invulnerabilty field II
3x Ballistic control unit II 2x Power diagnostic unit II (or true sansha) 1x Damage control system II
5x Hobgoblin II
WTB Nighthawk with 6 low slots.
Hey I tought only bob can cheat.
Or perhaps just another armchair general? -------- ..... |
One Percent
Caldari Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 13:26:00 -
[18]
I have no idea why people buy all this faction stuff for their mission Nighthawk. My NH is passively tanked, costs nothing in comparison, and wtfowns missions easily. Not difficult to put a setup together that regens 150+ hp/s without using any cap. DPS? Yeah, over 400.
|
Zaphroid Eulthran
Minmatar Imperial Visions
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 15:50:00 -
[19]
Same here, I havent even fully T2ed mine and I have no probs with the lvl4s, Faction kit is just too expencive and not really worth it as a much cheaper setup can achieve the same result.
I use
6x HML2, 1x Tractor 2x LSE2, 3x Named Hardener of choice, usually 2xinvun 1xEM 2xBCU2, 1xDCU, 1xPDU
1 EM rig 1 spare not sure whats going here yet.
Warning, sig starts here,
Imperial Visions, Now 561056 seconds since our last fatality
|
Ast3r0iD
Gallente Aliastra
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 16:15:00 -
[20]
i just wondered why you would use a nighthawk above a raven, is the dps comparable?
|
|
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 18:05:00 -
[21]
Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 11/03/2007 18:02:06 just realized I posted this setup already in here...
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
|
Ral Ulgur
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 18:06:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Ast3r0iD i just wondered why you would use a nighthawk above a raven, is the dps comparable?
NH will eat anything non-BS so quickly, you'll need a sensorbooster to keep up with targeting (figuratively). I guess a torp raven will have a definite advantage over the NH when it comes to popping BSs, but might have to wait for drones to kill off smaller stuff. I don't know about a cruise raven... probably similar to a torp raven, just less extreme.
I'd be interested in seeing some numbers as well..
|
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 18:08:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Ast3r0iD i just wondered why you would use a nighthawk above a raven, is the dps comparable?
To a cruise raven yes, to a Torp raven no, not really. But it's easier and cheaper to make a NH that you can AFK lvl 4s in.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
|
SauronTheMage
Caldari
|
Posted - 2007.03.11 19:50:00 -
[24]
Edited by: SauronTheMage on 11/03/2007 19:47:58 I agree Pottsey. Don't know what kind of smack these ppl are on :)
My nighthawk regen is 265 hp / sec @ 30% (using 2.4 multipler), with 6 x T2 heavy launchers. I also have room for improvement to bring it upto 350hp/sec or so if I want (depending on mission). My vulture is close to these specs also.
Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 06/02/2007 12:57:31 öOriginally by: Gee'Kin'Lam 6 x heavy l t2 1 gisti large repper 1 amp t2 1 inv t2 2 rat specific rat hardners t2 1 damage control t2 3 pdu t2 1 cap relay 1 cap rig tier 1ö
Surly replaceing the PDUÆs, cap relays and cap rig for shield relays T2 and a purger rig and the amp and gistis mod for large shield extenders T2 then replace the damage control with a PDS T2 and you would get a much tougher tank with more HP regen. The ships made to passive tank I dont see any point in active tanking it.
|
One Percent
Caldari Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
|
Posted - 2007.03.13 00:52:00 -
[25]
Originally by: SauronTheMage Edited by: SauronTheMage on 11/03/2007 19:55:59 I agree Pottsey. Don't know what kind of smack these ppl are on. ;)
My nighthawk regen is 265 hp / sec @ 30% (using 2.4 multipler), with 6 x T2 heavy launchers. I also have room for improvement to bring it upto 350hp/sec or so if I want (depending on mission).
My vulture is close to these specs also, and the above quoted regen is on my pvp fit. :)
Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 06/02/2007 12:57:31 öOriginally by: Gee'Kin'Lam 6 x heavy l t2 1 gisti large repper 1 amp t2 1 inv t2 2 rat specific rat hardners t2 1 damage control t2 3 pdu t2 1 cap relay 1 cap rig tier 1ö
Surly replaceing the PDUÆs, cap relays and cap rig for shield relays T2 and a purger rig and the amp and gistis mod for large shield extenders T2 then replace the damage control with a PDS T2 and you would get a much tougher tank with more HP regen. The ships made to passive tank I dont see any point in active tanking it.
My passive NH setup isn't anywhere even close to that much regen and I have max skills. Although, you aren't fitting any BCS II's which makes your setup totally pathetic since your dps would be horrible. Oh sure, you won't die, but you'll also take FOREVER to do most missions.
6x Heavy Launcher II's
1x EM Hardener II 1x Invul Field II 2x Lrg Extender II 1x Shield Recharger II
3x Shield Power Relay II 2x BCU II
2x Purger Rigs (Shield Recharge)
In a gang with my alt and including implants it regens 167 hp/s with a 2.5 multiplier.
It does 400 dps and its tank won't break unless you do something stupid like aggro an entire room.
|
Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
|
Posted - 2007.03.13 03:46:00 -
[26]
Originally by: One Percent
Originally by: SauronTheMage Edited by: SauronTheMage on 11/03/2007 19:55:59 I agree Pottsey. Don't know what kind of smack these ppl are on. ;)
My nighthawk regen is 265 hp / sec @ 30% (using 2.4 multipler), with 6 x T2 heavy launchers. I also have room for improvement to bring it upto 350hp/sec or so if I want (depending on mission).
My vulture is close to these specs also, and the above quoted regen is on my pvp fit. :)
Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 06/02/2007 12:57:31 öOriginally by: Gee'Kin'Lam 6 x heavy l t2 1 gisti large repper 1 amp t2 1 inv t2 2 rat specific rat hardners t2 1 damage control t2 3 pdu t2 1 cap relay 1 cap rig tier 1ö
Surly replaceing the PDUÆs, cap relays and cap rig for shield relays T2 and a purger rig and the amp and gistis mod for large shield extenders T2 then replace the damage control with a PDS T2 and you would get a much tougher tank with more HP regen. The ships made to passive tank I dont see any point in active tanking it.
My passive NH setup isn't anywhere even close to that much regen and I have max skills. Although, you aren't fitting any BCS II's which makes your setup totally pathetic since your dps would be horrible. Oh sure, you won't die, but you'll also take FOREVER to do most missions.
6x Heavy Launcher II's
1x EM Hardener II 1x Invul Field II 2x Lrg Extender II 1x Shield Recharger II
3x Shield Power Relay II 2x BCU II
2x Purger Rigs (Shield Recharge)
In a gang with my alt and including implants it regens 167 hp/s with a 2.5 multiplier.
It does 400 dps and its tank won't break unless you do something stupid like aggro an entire room.
If you swap hardeners for the proper types, not even full aggros will break your tank, only complexes will, and even then, with 265 peak regen, if you use 2 kin hardeners, t2 or better, you can tank any Guristas spawn in EVE, including the high end plexes, excluding certin non-kinetic heavy damage parts.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
|
VanNostrum
Caldari
|
Posted - 2007.03.13 04:04:00 -
[27]
Edited by: VanNostrum on 13/03/2007 04:01:22
6 x 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
3 x Large Shield Extender II 1 x Invulnerability Field II 1 x Photon Scattering Field II
1 x Power Diagnostic System II 4 x Shield Power Relay II
2 x Core Defence Field Purger Rigs (20% shield recharge rate bonus each)
5 x Hobgoblin II ------------------------------------------------------------
Shield EM 75.95 % Shield Explo 79.0 % Shield Kinetic 80.31 % Shield Thermal 84.25 %
Shield HP (regen) 16642.499 (183.16sec) Max Shield Regen 227.16 per sec
Max Cap Regen 6.35 per sec Max Cap Needed 5.2 per sec
Remaining: 19.12 PG / 256.25 CPU (with max skills)
Now this is some passive shield tank
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter. It is a combat drone used by carriers. |
Times Drift
Caldari Crimson Council
|
Posted - 2007.03.17 08:29:00 -
[28]
Here is my setup
6 T2 heavy launchers (standard ammo)
1 T2 large SB 2 T2 magnetic scattering amp 1 V-M15 multi spectral shield matrix 1 rat specific passive mod
4 T2 BCU 1 damage control
2 loading bay accelarators
I don't have maxed skills but i am getting a rof of 4.74
|
JenDen
Caldari LFS Corp
|
Posted - 2007.03.19 22:59:00 -
[29]
Got question. My current fit is this:
6 T2 HML
1 T2 Large Shield Extender 1 T2 Large Shield Booster 3 Race specific hardeners
3 T2 PDU 2 T2 BCU
Planning on getting Rof rig but the problem is CPU. Got Electronics 5 and WU 5, but still I can only fit that rig with lvl5 at missile launcher rigging (which would take a bit). Will probably get 1 cap recharge rig and swap 1 PDU for BCU, but again will suffer from lack of CPU. Is fractional gear the only solution?
|
Dr Fighter
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 00:32:00 -
[30]
6x heavy II 3x large shield extender II. 2x magnetic scattering II, shiled recharger II 5x SPR II
ultimate tank, use furys
|
|
NIkis
Minmatar Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 01:09:00 -
[31]
Edited by: NIkis on 20/03/2007 01:10:05 Edited by: NIkis on 20/03/2007 01:09:28
Originally by: Times Drift
4 T2 BCU 1 damage control
2 loading bay accelarators
I don't have maxed skills but i am getting a rof of 4.74
You know of course the loading bay accelerators are stacking nerfed with BCU IIs (think the devs were drunk when they made those btw because only tech 2 is decent but far from solid)? i'm sure you can find something more useful in rigs if you fit 4 BCU IIs. Otherwise the setup looks solid
|
Idara
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
|
Posted - 2007.03.20 01:13:00 -
[32]
6x HML II, 1x Tractor Beam 1x LSB II, 3x Harderners and a SBA, or 3x Hardeners and a LSE II (I can't even use T2 shield hardeners ) 3x BCU II, 2x PDU II
5x Hobgoblin IIs
Rigs: 1x Shield booster cap usage reduction and a passive 30% EM rig, because I have a lot of missions with Sansha it it.
Easy peasy. ---
|
Lunanie
The Devil's Rejects
|
Posted - 2007.04.24 09:40:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Lunanie on 24/04/2007 09:58:07 The best mission setup for this ship is just full dmg !! Because of the insane resistances u get with 4 hardeners you can keep the shields at 100% with the medium shield booster. (For guristas I use 3x Kin, 1x heat, Serpentis, 2x heat 2x kin, Sansha, 3x EM, 1x heat, etc)
It can tank most lvl4's with full aggro and wtfpwn every NPC in no time because of the 4.7 sec Rof (without any rigs)
6x Heavy Missile Launcher 4x Rat specific active hardeners, 1x Med Shield Booster (or maybe go faction) 1 PDU, 4x BCU 5x drones of choice
All t2 ofc !!
|
Lagkills
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
|
Posted - 2007.05.12 09:19:00 -
[34]
Hi: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II
Med: 3x Large Shield Extender II 1x Rat spec hardener... 1x Invul II
Low: 3x SPR II 2x PDS II
Rigs: Core Defence Field Purger
Light Drones almost Maxed Drone skills. Who took our loli's? |
Hephaesteus
Gallente
|
Posted - 2007.05.12 09:39:00 -
[35]
6 heavy missile launchers T2
1x gist x-type lsb 4x T2 active hardeners
3 bcs T2 2 pdu T2
Throw in some drones, but they not needed tbh. Warp in tank everything kill rats warp out, done.
The tank on a NH is just mental and easily capable of soloing lvl4's
|
Andrue
Amarr
|
Posted - 2007.05.12 09:55:00 -
[36]
I just got my NH. Still got to train Comm. Ships a bit but I happened to get Massive Attack so gave it a whirl (not like I was at much risk, lol).
6 T2 Heavy Missile Launchers 2 T2 Large Shield Extenders 1 T2 Shield Recharger 1 T2 Invul Field 1 T2 Photon Field 2 BCU 3 SPR
2 T1 Purger
At one point I think the shields dropped to 94% :)
Gonna be a fun ship when I've got Comm. Ship to 4 -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
This is not a signature |
Cassius Hawkeye
Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.05.12 10:01:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Cassius Hawkeye on 12/05/2007 10:02:04 My setup is similar to OP's.
6 T2 heavy missile launchers (T1 scourge), 1 T Beam
1 10mn Ab T2 2 large shield extender T2 1 Invul T2 1 Active em T2
3 ballistic control T2 1 shield power relay T2 1 PDS T2
2 x Core Defence Field Extender Rigs
5 x Hobgoblin 2's
Swap out the EM hardener for a rat specific hardener as you see fit. Shields are approx 17,500.
This setup breeze's through every level 4 mission. Not gone under 40% shields. You really don't need a shield booster! passive tank all the way!
|
Brujo Loco
Amarr Brujeria Teologica
|
Posted - 2007.05.29 02:57:00 -
[38]
Im about to use a NH in a couple weeks and was wondering, of all the fittings here, I ended up with two setups that more or less accomodate my style, and according to quickfit these are the results and thus I ask, (according to these Calculations) whats better?
12568 Shield HP recharged in 224 secs?
(difference with the one below is: 1 shield rech in mid, 2 LSE II 3 SPR II in lows 2 Purger Rigs )
OR
17453 Shield HP recharged in 555 secs
(difference with the one above is 1 shield rech in mid , 2 LSE II 1 PDU, 1 SPR II in lows 2 Field Ext Rigs )
Rest is standard HML II-Varied Resists
So overall , in the end whats better according to you more experienced players?
"The Theology Council is watching ... YOU!!!" Viva VENEZUELA!!! |
Klavayne
Pack Of Shadows
|
Posted - 2007.06.02 18:22:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Brujo Loco Edited by: Brujo Loco on 31/05/2007 18:21:57 Im about to use a NH in a couple weeks and was wondering, of all the fittings here, I ended up with two setups that more or less accomodate my style, and according to quickfit these are the results and thus I ask, (according to these Calculations) whats better?
12568 Shield HP recharged in 224 secs?
(difference with the one below is: 1 shield rech in mid, 2 LSE II 3 SPR II in lows 2 Purger Rigs )
OR
17453 Shield HP recharged in 555 secs
(difference with the one above is 1 shield rech in mid , 2 LSE II 1 PDU, 1 SPR II in lows 2 Field Ext Rigs )
Rest is standard HML II-Varied Resists
So overall , in the end whats better according to you more experienced players?
edit: Using the formula given for passive tanking, [Shield HP/Shield Regen * 2.5 = Peak Regen between 30% to 50%- shield] seems the first setup has a higher hp regen , whereas the second is just more Buffage hps but at almost half the regen. So ideally I should be sticking to the first setup. Just wondering if any actual NH users care to reply on these numbers? :)
Use the one with the highest regen. The buffer won't help you much in PVE where you are recieving damage over a long time.
To be honest, the top setup looks like overkill. Swap the shield recharger for another hardener, it will help you more in missions with more than two damage types. And you could get away with one less SPR in the lows too, swapping it in if needed for harder missions.
|
Aramis Rosicrux
Gallente Xoth Industries
|
Posted - 2007.06.04 22:45:00 -
[40]
OK, I have been doing trial and error and this is about my favorite (from memory, I am at work now):
High Slot: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II 1x 'spare' (Small Nosferatu, Drone Range Extender, Small Remote Armor Repair, Small Smartbomb, Transport Beam or maybe a Salvager) or you can totally waste the space with a Auto Targeter.
Med: 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Shield Recharger II
Low: 2x Shield Power Relay II 3x Ballistic Control System
Rigs: 2x Core Defense Field Purger
Drones: 5x Small Combat T-II select for mission, usually Hobgoblins
Now this uses no cap at all. No hardeners, no boosters, no damage controls. You could NOS me all day and I can still fire missiles.
I can't calculate how much damage it can take, but lets just say that with a set of LG Crystal implants, I have not seen it fall below half shields. Ever.
Now, in a Fleet battle I would probably be toasted by the sheer volume of damage, but this ship rocks for Missions, I can even do level fours alone (and we all know how stupid that can be!)
I think the Nighthawk is the best ship I have ever flown, its the only benefit of several millions of skill points I wasted training up all those leadership skills!
[center]
Humility is the hallmark of honorable character. Aramis Rosicrux
|
|
TROY STUBBER
|
Posted - 2007.06.05 02:10:00 -
[41]
6 DG heavies 1 DB nos
Domi ab med pithum a sb Pith x sba thon's invul pith x miss specific
2 vepas' 1 thon's bcu's, brynn's pdu dcu II
can permarun sb with ab cap at 60% can do ae4 with bonus and whole ts/angel wc in just over an hour.
|
Missuri
|
Posted - 2007.06.10 11:28:00 -
[42]
Hmm I was curious. If you use "Purger Rigs" they will increase your signature. But if it increases your ship's Sig Size it will also make it easier to hit. Battleship, and Battlecruiser will hit harder. But then the tanking is more difficult.
Am I right?
|
Singularity XX
Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL
|
Posted - 2007.06.11 01:13:00 -
[43]
6x Heavy Missile Launcher II Medium Nosferatu II
Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster Cap Recharger II Gist X-Type Photon Scattering Field Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
3xBallistic Control System II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II
Rigs : Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \
6054 shield, 16.54/s, E/T/K/Ex=82/87/84/83 Of course the faction fit is doable with t2 it won't tank as much (3.1k dps with a crystal set) But you get the overall idea.
--- Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". It's a templar, an amarr fighter used by shuttles. Tho I hear they don't tank very well. |
Captain Powers
|
Posted - 2007.06.11 15:49:00 -
[44]
Humm, previous post must have unlimited funds. I looked at that setup and challenged myself to find a setup that could tank just as well or better and be cheaper. Now I can say I could cut the cost in half and show how someone can do it cheaper.
High 6 heavy missile launcher II auto targeting system II
Mid 2 Large Shield Extender II Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Gist X-type Photon Scattering Field Shield Recharger II ( had to due to lack of cpu for another extender )
Low 3 Shield Power Relay II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II
2 Core Defence Field Purger I
Does 140 hp per second ( higher shield regen then yours above ) and same resists. Lacks about 10% the fire power of yours but the lower cost allows me to step in one sooner plus higher shield regen. Still pricey thou.
I tend to like Lunanie fit since it uses the strength of the ship with one faction booster to do insane shielding with insane dps. Myself, I would take out one BCU and put in a DCU II, but that is me since the structure would give me that extra safety net to allow a warp out if needed. Again, I like a backup plan in case the scrap metal hits the fan.
|
Klavayne
Pack Of Shadows
|
Posted - 2007.06.11 16:06:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Aramis Rosicrux OK, I have been doing trial and error and this is about my favorite (from memory, I am at work now):
High Slot: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II 1x 'spare' (Small Nosferatu, Drone Range Extender, Small Remote Armor Repair, Small Smartbomb, Transport Beam or maybe a Salvager) or you can totally waste the space with a Auto Targeter.
Med: 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Shield Recharger II
Low: 2x Shield Power Relay II 3x Ballistic Control System
Rigs: 2x Core Defense Field Purger
Drones: 5x Small Combat T-II select for mission, usually Hobgoblins
Now this uses no cap at all. No hardeners, no boosters, no damage controls. You could NOS me all day and I can still fire missiles.
I can't calculate how much damage it can take, but lets just say that with a set of LG Crystal implants, I have not seen it fall below half shields. Ever.
Erm, you have no module on there which is affected by crystal implants.
Any EM damage will also just cut through you like a hot knife through butter. Look at other peoples setups, hardeners>shield rechargers.
|
K'thang
Gallente Ferengi Trade Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.06.11 16:44:00 -
[46]
High: 6x Heavy Missile Launchers IIs 1x Tractor Beam
Med: 3x Hardener of choice, passive or active (T2 or better ofc) 2x Large Shield Extender IIs
Low: 3x Shield Power Relay IIs 2x Ballistic Control Unit IIs
Rigs: 2x Purgers
Nothing in any lvl4 mission have every broken my tank, ever. And the damage is good. |
Singularity XX
Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 04:37:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Singularity XX on 12/06/2007 04:35:39
Originally by: Captain Powers Humm, previous post must have unlimited funds. *Yada yada* Does 140 hp per second ( higher shield regen then yours above ) and same resists.
184 HP/s from the shield booster.
I'll be the first one to recognize that setup is INSANELY expensive. But I saw all those expensive mods and I thought: "Hmm how well can this puppy tank". 3.1k dps on EM is pretty damn good if u ask me :) that's enough to afk in lvl 4s. Or just be a noob like me and alt tab and manage to agro the whole spawn.
Besides it's an example setup. Without the crystal set it would reduce the price to that of a CNR with respectable gear. I've seen CNRs setup with nice 1.5bil boosters + faction/officer BCUs or hardeners. So this isn't all that bad :) --- Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". It's a templar, an amarr fighter used by shuttles. Tho I hear they don't tank very well. |
Captain Powers
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 19:10:00 -
[48]
Wow, my structure is on fire. I totally missed the SBA in the layout. I have to award the tanking beast trophy to Singularity. Funny thing is, with some officer's modules, it could tank more. Cost is still under a CNR setup and the CNR can't touch the tanking this one for general afk tanking.
With the BC passive tanking nerf coming soon, I'm going to have to look at this for a highend setup. Cost is lower then X-Large versions of the modules found on a Raven/CNR setup. I like it
So far, Lunanie and Singularity have a nice approach to addressing a lvl 4 mission ship that just rocks.
|
000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 19:21:00 -
[49]
HI: 6x T2 heavy launchers MID: 1x 10MN T2 AB, 1x T2 LSB, 1x T2 invulni, 2 racial specific T2 hardners LO: 1x best named DCU, 1x T2 PDU, 3x T2 BCU
rigs: i opted for a cap charger and a capsize rig
There are prolly other setups that work but i can run WC L4, ALL rooms without breaking a sweat.
(only time i ever broke a sweat is when i got the 'surprise surprise' mission and it didn't log what rats i would be facing... Nossieing NPC BS 4TL hahaha, barely made it out on fire and in structure Was a nice adrenaline rush though)
In fairness i am contemplating on upgrading some of this to some nifty faction stuff perhaps, but thats more cuz i like buying expensive new toys and seem to have a masochistic enjoyment in beeing always broke CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
|
Captain Powers
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 21:02:00 -
[50]
184 hp/sec produces
EM=82% or 1022 max EM tank Expl=83% or 1082 max Expl tank Kin=84% or 1150 max Kin tank Therm=87% or 1415 max Therm tank
Ok, a crystal implant set is going to give you a 3 fold improvement in shield boost to obtain a 3.1k EM tank? Wow, now I know what I need to sign up ( sort of doubt it ).
|
|
Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 21:10:00 -
[51]
I use 6 heavy 2's 1 drone navigation unit 2 LSE 2's 2 invuln 2's 1 em 2 1 PDU 2 2 SPR 2's 2BCU 2's
rigs 1 shield extender, 1 shield recharge(prob need to swap these to either two extenders or two recharge but for time being they hold just fine
has a damn fine tank and good dmg output
Originally by: Stamm Some people might have been convinced by the official announcement posted by Steelrat, but not me, I wasn't convinced until some random alt posts a brand new thread.
|
Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 21:11:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Lunanie Edited by: Lunanie on 24/04/2007 09:58:07 The best mission setup for this ship is just full dmg !! Because of the insane resistances u get with 4 hardeners you can keep the shields at 100% with the medium shield booster. (For guristas I use 3x Kin, 1x heat, Serpentis, 2x heat 2x kin, Sansha, 3x EM, 1x heat, etc)
It can tank most lvl4's with full aggro and wtfpwn every NPC in no time because of the 4.7 sec Rof (without any rigs)
6x Heavy Missile Launcher 4x Rat specific active hardeners, 1x Med Shield Booster (or maybe go faction) 1 PDU, 4x BCU 5x drones of choice
All t2 ofc !!
seems like an interesting strategy, may have to give this a try with a deadspace large or maybe deadspace medium booster
Originally by: Stamm Some people might have been convinced by the official announcement posted by Steelrat, but not me, I wasn't convinced until some random alt posts a brand new thread.
|
MaidMarion
FarCry Inc Curse Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 22:10:00 -
[53]
Never put t1 fittings on a command ship .. its just wrong.
|
Singularity XX
Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 22:12:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Captain Powers 184 hp/sec produces
EM=82% or 1022 max EM tank Expl=83% or 1082 max Expl tank Kin=84% or 1150 max Kin tank Therm=87% or 1415 max Therm tank
Ok, a crystal implant set is going to give you a 3 fold improvement in shield boost to obtain a 3.1k EM tank? Wow, now I know what I need to sign up ( sort of doubt it ).
Oh oops it seems like I messed up a number somewhere... Haha it looks like I messed up with the booster... forgot to divide by 3.2. Eh math accidents happen --- Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". It's a templar, an amarr fighter used by shuttles. Tho I hear they don't tank very well. |
Ral Ulgur
Helion Production Labs
|
Posted - 2007.06.12 22:44:00 -
[55]
I admit my setup is a bit overkill, but since I most likely won't get to see a titan from the inside, I decided to make my NH my private little epeen.
6x DGHML 1x Small Tractor Beam
3x LSE II 1x DG Invulnerability Field 1x Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field
3x SPR II 2x DG BCU
2x Core Defence Field Purger (to be replaced by t2)
Gives me 16325 shield with 255s recharge time and 81+ resistances across the board. RoF on DGHMLs is 4.9s (w/o implant)
I did an extensive comparison with a friends pimped out CNR. He still gets more DPS and a slightly better perma tank (even without chrystals).
|
mr sweet
|
Posted - 2007.06.18 14:16:00 -
[56]
lvl4 solo 24/7 tank setup
hi: 6x dg heavy launchers - 1x medium nosf mid: 2 dg invul - 1 phothon scattering field - 2x pithi a-type small shield boosters low: 3x bcu II - 2x true sansha pdu
rig: 1x cap 1x em drones: tech II small
also possible for mid: 2 dg invul - 1 phothon scattering field - 1x pithum a-type medium shield booster with a dg shield boost amp.
|
Wiggy69
5punkorp Betrayal Under Mayhem
|
Posted - 2007.06.23 22:12:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Andrue I just got my NH. Still got to train Comm. Ships a bit but I happened to get Massive Attack so gave it a whirl (not like I was at much risk, lol).
6 T2 Heavy Missile Launchers 2 T2 Large Shield Extenders 1 T2 Shield Recharger 1 T2 Invul Field 1 T2 Photon Field 2 BCU 3 SPR
2 T1 Purger
At one point I think the shields dropped to 94% :)
Gonna be a fun ship when I've got Comm. Ship to 4
This is the same setup I'm going for on my alt. I use a similar setup on my Drake now, I can't wait :) -----
Wiggy's Bad Spelling and Grammar Complaints Department |
Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Dusk and Dawn
|
Posted - 2007.06.23 22:31:00 -
[58]
My Peen:
6x Heavy Missile Launcher II 1x Whatever you like
1x Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster 2x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field 1x Gist B-Type Magnetic Scattering Field (Pith X-Type Ballistic Deflection Field) 1x Dread Guristas Magnettic Scattering Amplifier (Pithum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier)
3x Dread Guristas Ballestic Control System 1x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Damage Control II
2x CCC I Rigs
5x Warrior II
With EM Hardener its all around 90%, with Kin Setup its 97% Kin. Tank runs 24/7 and i can tank everything with my 90% setup. Every Mission will be in easy mode, its boring. I Recently made a L5 Mission with it solo, but i had to fit a Cap Injector =) Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit on the forums. -Darth Patches |
Gunner Milia
|
Posted - 2007.06.25 21:11:00 -
[59]
Love this setup Naomi , Great Kit , A bit on the expensive side but very nicely put together !.
|
JenDen
Caldari LFS Corp
|
Posted - 2007.06.25 23:14:00 -
[60]
I'm really looking to maximise the dps, so I want to go for 4xBCUs. Will there be enough cap to run Gist X-Type LSB, 2xDG Invuls + 1xDG Hardener with only 1 PDS t2 and 2xCCC rigs?
|
|
Klavayne
Pack Of Shadows
|
Posted - 2007.06.25 23:39:00 -
[61]
Originally by: JenDen I'm really looking to maximise the dps, so I want to go for 4xBCUs. Will there be enough cap to run Gist X-Type LSB, 2xDG Invuls + 1xDG Hardener with only 1 PDS t2 and 2xCCC rigs?
Plenty of cap, providing you dont want to run the booster permanently. In my opinion its really not worth using the 4th BCU, its penalty stacked to hell. If you really want to maximise your damage get yourself the new 5% to heavy missile damage implant and either 5% ROF or 5% all missile damage. Then use that spare slot for another PDU or a damage control, 4th BCU might make you money 3-4% quicker but a DCU could save that very expensive setup in an emergency.
|
JenDen
Caldari LFS Corp
|
Posted - 2007.06.26 01:54:00 -
[62]
Thank you for the quick response.
I was worrying because I used to have to have one cap rig and 2 PDUs t2, and with LSB running + 3x active race-specific hardeners I was slowly but certainly running out of cap.
Also I'm now looking through the implants in my LP store and besides the one for +5% rof (slot 10) which I already have I can see only 1 new implant that can be beneficial - +5% heavy missile damage (slot 7). Is there a specific corp that gives away +5% all missile damage implant?
|
Kaynard Stormwalker
Stormriders Fimbulwinter
|
Posted - 2007.07.02 00:39:00 -
[63]
So many overkill setups ! If you overtank it, the dps goes down a lot, so it kinda sucks.
I guess the point in using the NH is that it has a very nice tank, so you don't need to focus so much on it.
Currently my lvl 4 setup is: - Highs - 6 T2 HML 1 T1 Tractor
- Meds - 2 T2 Hardeners (depending on the mission - usually 2x invul works for 80% of them) 2 T2 LSE 1 T2 Shield Recharger (No joke !)
- Lows - 3 T2 BCU (More than 3 is just silly, IMO) 2 T2 SPR (Shield power relay)
- Rigs - 2 T1 CDP (Core defense filed purger)
- Drones - 5x T2 Hobgoblins (Or warriors, depends on my mood)
So far I've been able to finish ALL lvl 4 missions. Never got the new ones though, so I dunno about that, but Worlds Collide is CAKE (It's the mission I had more problems with my mission raven so..).
What can be improved ? Well, I don't know, I really *don't* need any faction crap. Unless its for more dmg.
Maybe there's harder missions which I didn't try yet (the new ones maybe).
*SPEED* - Hell, this ship needs an AB/MWD to do missions like Recon/WC. It's so annoying to slowboat...so maybe faction mods to free grid for a T2 AB.
So far this setup should do for everything.
|
Klavayne
Pack Of Shadows
|
Posted - 2007.07.02 10:16:00 -
[64]
Originally by: JenDen Thank you for the quick response.
I was worrying because I used to have to have one cap rig and 2 PDUs t2, and with LSB running + 3x active race-specific hardeners I was slowly but certainly running out of cap.
That might have been the problem. The only booster you can realistically (without t2 rigs etc.) perma-run is a c-type and possibly a b-type. With the X-type you will gradually run out of cap. Then you just need to turn it off every once in a while and let your shields run down while the cap recharges, then turn it back on for a while.
Originally by: JenDen
Also I'm now looking through the implants in my LP store and besides the one for +5% rof (slot 10) which I already have I can see only 1 new implant that can be beneficial - +5% heavy missile damage (slot 7). Is there a specific corp that gives away +5% all missile damage implant?
My mistake, there isnt an all missile damage implant, only one for all turrets. Its just the ROF and the 5% heavy missile ones which will be useful. However, there are some new cap implants a slot 6 -5% recharge time and a slot 8 5% cap amount. These ought to be able to get the booster permarunning with two CCCs and two t2 PDS, if you are dead set on running it permanently.
|
000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
|
Posted - 2007.07.02 11:28:00 -
[65]
I can't believe almost none of these setups uses an AB for missions...
most acknowledge the NH's nice tanking abilities but still stick some more tank stuff in 1 of the medslots...
I dunno, but i like speed as well, and fitting a 10MN T2 ab with some gangskills gets me a respectable 440m/sec which is nice for getting into/out of range of stuff
then again, after reading some of these posts, i might try out a 4th BCU, allthough i was under the impression that after 3, the 4th one should make hardly any difference?
Can someone post a few stats mebbe? anyways, gonna try to replace my damage control for a 4th bcu and see if there is any difference (if i can get it to fit hehehe) CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
|
Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries
|
Posted - 2007.07.14 08:49:00 -
[66]
6x Heavy Launcher II 1x Whatever
1x Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster 2x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field 1x Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field 1x Pithum A-Type Magnetic Scattering Amplifier
3x Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System 1x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Damage Control II
2x CCC
5x Hornet II
Tanking with no loss of DPS, makes L4 a bit boring :/
|
Ja'kar
kleptomaniacs
|
Posted - 2007.07.14 10:41:00 -
[67]
sorry to they op - just want to ask a question - or NH better then ravens for low sec missions or it don't matter (am thinking of the missions and probes etc
|
IceCreamMonster
|
Posted - 2007.08.05 21:12:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire 6x Heavy Launcher II 1x Whatever
1x Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster 2x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field 1x Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field 1x Pithum A-Type Magnetic Scattering Amplifier
3x Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System 1x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Damage Control II
2x CCC
5x Hornet II
Tanking with no loss of DPS, makes L4 a bit boring :/
Why are you using T2 Launchers when you using pith boosters and DG invul? Why not match the rest of the pimp setup with DG Launchers or Navy Launchers? Unless you are using T2 ammo?
|
MaidMarion
FarCry Inc Curse Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.08.05 22:24:00 -
[69]
NH has great tank, but poor dps compared to raven, which is still the better choice for lv4s. I think i'd invest in a CNR before another Nighthawk, unless we talkin pvp
|
Andrue
Amarr
|
Posted - 2007.08.06 20:54:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Andrue on 06/08/2007 20:59:43 6xHMII;1 Tractor 2xLSEII;InvulnII;Rat specific Hardener T2;Shield Recharger T2 2xNavy BCS;3xSPR T2 2xPurger T1
5 T2 small drones (Hobgoblin or Hornet)
I have a full set of +4 Halos.
This can handle every L4 mission I have run over the last three months. Guristas Recon 1/3 sometimes pushes the shield down to 42% if the jamming gets out of hand but probably can't break the tank. Most missions don't even get the shield beow 60%.
The only problem I have is with Rachen Masuna. Until I got the Navy BCS I had to rely on my drones helping out and it had to be the right kind of drones as well (T2 Hornet). With the Navy BCS I can at last take him down without the drones but I usually have them help out anyway otherwise it takes ages.
It's slower at running L4 missions than a CNR (but not by much) but the tank is safer. I don't currently think there's an L4 mission in the game that can break my tank. -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
This is not a signature |
|
port22
Royal Crimson Lancers
|
Posted - 2007.08.09 10:17:00 -
[71]
Edited by: port22 on 09/08/2007 10:17:49
Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 06/02/2007 12:57:31 öOriginally by: Gee'Kin'Lam 6 x heavy l t2 1 gisti large repper 1 amp t2 1 inv t2 2 rat specific rat hardners t2 1 damage control t2 3 pdu t2 1 cap relay 1 cap rig tier 1ö
Surly replaceing the PDUÆs, cap relays and cap rig for shield relays T2 and a purger rig and the amp and gistis mod for large shield extenders T2 then replace the damage control with a PDS T2 and you would get a much tougher tank with more HP regen. The ships made to passive tank I dont see any point in active tanking it.
In my opinion these ships still beg to be passive shield tanked after bc shield nerf.
Lets just say it tanks lvl 4 missions solo no problem with my setup, which isnt exactly a big secret but I will not post here. And my Vulture, well, im sure you can imagine :)
BTW Pottsey, I take my hat off to you, the passive shield regen master! :D
Originally by: Temp Boi Port FTMFW Period.
'We dont fight fair' -Fall Out Boy |
MaidMarion
FarCry Inc Curse Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.08.09 12:43:00 -
[72]
Yea, Vulture can fit a mean passive tank, tho I fit active tank + cap inj when running with 3 - 4 gang mods.
|
Sazkyen
|
Posted - 2007.08.09 14:41:00 -
[73]
6x T2 Heavies + Faction Ammo
1x Pithum A-Type Medium SB 1x Cap Rec II 1x Active Faction Hardener 1x Active Faction Hardener (other damage type) 1x Passive Faction Hardener (for the primary damage type)
3x T2 or faction BCU 2x Flux Coil IIs
2x Bay Loading Accelerator Is
High support skills + high launcher spec gives about 550 dam/sec, very nice setup
|
Mariko Musashi
|
Posted - 2007.08.09 14:54:00 -
[74]
This is my setup
high:6x heavy t2, 1x tractor beam
mid: 1x rat specific active(domination cause of low cap use) 1x domination invul (low cap use) 2x large shield ext, 1x dread passive rat specific.
Low 3x bcu 2x spr 2
I can run tank FOREVER(even though i use both invul and rat specific, cause the rat specific domi is 10 cap use, and the domo invul is 16, and both are pretty cheap)
And with the shieldpower relay 2s in low instead of pdus, i get faster shield regen than most other posts here.
It all fits just barely >)
|
nos veratu
|
Posted - 2007.08.09 16:19:00 -
[75]
Edited by: nos veratu on 09/08/2007 16:21:31 setup:
6 x Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launchers
3 x Large Shield Extender II 2 x hardener of choice
1 x Power Diagnostic System II 2 x Shield Power Relay II 2 x Caldari Navy Ballsitic Control System
2 x core defence field purger rigs
5 x t2 small drones
can fit lots of stuff in the last remaining hi slot. maybe a drone link or a small smartbomb?
works for me
had an RCU instead of a PDU
|
Gul Rashen
Perkone
|
Posted - 2007.08.09 21:11:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Gul Rashen on 09/08/2007 21:13:44
Originally by: MaidMarion NH has great tank, but poor dps compared to raven, which is still the better choice for lv4s. I think i'd invest in a CNR before another Nighthawk, unless we talkin pvp
If you compare the Standard-Fittings the NH has with Kin more DPS than a Cruise-Raven, with active Fitting and 4 BCS its not far behind a Cruise-CNR with 3 BCS. It sucks a bit on the other DMG-Types but with its precision Bonus its Killspeed is still high. Compared to a Torp-Raven the DPS is much slower, but the Killspeed not. I take out Rachen Mysuna with my NH in a Minute and ten seconds and need for a Guristas Extravaganza with Bonus-Stage 1h15, with my Torp-CNR i'm not much faster and in some Missions i'm still faster with my NH. And the NH is very comfortable, no need to change the Fitting or the Ammo between the missions.
|
Captin hero
|
Posted - 2007.08.29 10:20:00 -
[77]
6x T2 heavy missiles 1x T2 small nos ------------------ 1x T2 invul shield 1x Em passive amp 2x t2 large shield extenders 1x T2 shield recharger ------------------ 5x T2 shield power releys ------------------ 2x shield recharge rigs
Who said worlds collide lvl 4 was hard ???????
|
Gold Nine
|
Posted - 2007.08.29 20:40:00 -
[78]
i'm getting about 90 shield p/s recharge on EFT is that really enough to tank a level 4? i've not ran any in a long time and i remember some of the missions i had problems doing them with a XL II / boost amp on a raven, was about 2 years ago though
|
Aramendel
Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis
|
Posted - 2007.08.29 22:03:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Aramendel on 29/08/2007 22:06:00 Yes.
Most at least. I am not sure about enemies abound and the tougher WC versions (aka *not* serp/gurista), but everything else should be rather relaxing.
I am running them in a drake with currently 114 peak (and BC4 so only a 20% resistance bonus) and am doing fine. Vs everything but sansha/blood the NH will have due to its resitance bonuses a more effective tank (with a 3 harderner, 2 LSE2, 1 shield recharges, 3 purger1, 2 SPR2 on a drake vs 3 harderner, 2 LSE2, 2 purger1, 2 SPR2 on the NH). (Note: your 90 peak number suggests you are using a SR2 instead a 3rd harderner. Don't do that, a 3rd harderner is more effective, even if it gets the 3rd stacking penality. Unless you use 3 invul fields, but that would be kinda dumb for most lvl4s.)
And vs blood/snasha it will still have around 90% of the drakes effective tank. If it fits a 3rd SPR2 it will have a superior tank there, too.
|
Umbriele
Gallente Natural Inventions
|
Posted - 2007.09.01 15:34:00 -
[80]
With the following setup I do all the lvl4 never warped away and the harder mission takes 30-40 minutes:
6x heavy II 2x LSE II 2X magnetic amp II 1x explosive amp II 3x SPR II 2x BCU II
rigs 2x purge I 5 hobgoblin II
T2 damage missile on BS, I think this setup is better than raven in terms of speed
|
|
Allestin Villimar
|
Posted - 2007.09.15 19:26:00 -
[81]
This is the set up I'm looking at: High: 6x T2 Heavy Launchers, 1x Drone Link Augmentor Med : 1x CN/DG Invuln Field, 2x passive CN/DG EM resists, 2x T2 LSE Low : 1x T2 BCU, 4x SPR Rigs: 2x Core Defence Purger
Gives 80% or more to every resist, a launcher rate of around 5.5, and a regen of around 150. With better implants you can get better numbers. If you have maxed out shield compensation skills having the invuln field off only gives a net loss of about 10% to each resist.
|
Mia Fatalis
|
Posted - 2007.09.16 11:40:00 -
[82]
while i realize there are about a billion setups in this thread already, ill put mine up whynot .
i hate passive tanking, so i went with: high: 6x heavy launchers t2 1x medium nos (cause it fits) mids: 1x Pith x-type large shield booster 2x resistance amps (t2 or faction, mission specific) 2x shield boost amps t2 (or faction) lows: 4x pdu t2 (for permarunning the pith) 1x bcu t2 OR 2-3x pdu t2 (wont permarun, but more damage) 2-3x bcu t2 rigs: 2x CCC rig
with this setup the booster runs 599.9 shield/3.2 seconds, with kinetic/thermal resists close to 90% with lvl 5 compensation, other resists slightly lower if specifically hardened. does anything i throw at it (if slower then my torp raven) without any trouble, angel extra bonus room doesnt do anything to this tank .
|
Sergis
Caldari Life Extermination Axiom Empire
|
Posted - 2007.09.25 12:09:00 -
[83]
Originally by: JenDen Got question. My current fit is this:
6 T2 HML
1 T2 Large Shield Extender 1 T2 Large Shield Booster 3 Race specific hardeners
3 T2 PDU 2 T2 BCU
Planning on getting Rof rig but the problem is CPU. Got Electronics 5 and WU 5, but still I can only fit that rig with lvl5 at missile launcher rigging (which would take a bit). Will probably get 1 cap recharge rig and swap 1 PDU for BCU, but again will suffer from lack of CPU. Is fractional gear the only solution?
That is a totally poor setup you never want to mix shield boosting with LSEs...pick one or the other. --- Evil Thug [RAT.]<.-A-.> hits you, doing 24601.0 damage. Doomsday Devices aren't nice |
Talo Momoe
Caldari War-Torn
|
Posted - 2007.09.30 18:43:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Talo Momoe on 30/09/2007 18:45:58 High: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II (with Scourge Heavy Missiles) 1x Small Tractor Beam I
Medium: 1x Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster 1x Photon Scattering Field II 2x Invulnerability Field II 1x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 3x Ballistic Control System II 2x Power Diagnostic System II
Rig: 1x Core Defense Field Purger I 1x Capacitor Control Circuit I
Can solo all Level 4 missions with ease, and do them relatively quickly. There are better tanking setups available, but they gimp damage. This is a good balance of damage output and sustainability. Also, with this setup, you don't care about what the rat type is. No need to change ammo, no need to change hardeners. Resistances are 79.3/84.5/85.4/88.4.
The only thing that's expensive is the Gist booster. I've heard the C-Type is now over 600M. Ridiculous! It was about 200M when I bought mine.
|
SmurfR
|
Posted - 2007.10.02 17:12:00 -
[85]
My Setup for Lvl 4 Solo:
High: 6 x CNHML (Mission Specific CNHM) 1 x Shield Warfare Link = Shield Harmonizing
Med: Pith X-Type Large SB Large SE II 3 x Shield Hardeners (Mission Specific) (DG or CN)
Low: 3 x CNBCS 1 x PDS II 1 x DC II
Rigs: Ancillary Current Router I Capacitor Control Circuit I
My Alt flies a Catalyst with Salvage and Tractor set up on all missions so i get the Fleet Bonus from Siege Module.
92% Resists for mission specific damage.
No warp outs and clears all lvl 4 Missions with ease.
Looking at getting a Pithum A-Type Med SB so i can Perma Tank.
Fly Safe..
|
Fehnrail
Caldari Colossus Technologies
|
Posted - 2007.10.03 01:40:00 -
[86]
HIGH: 6x HMLII, 1x Medium Modal Laser MED: 2x LSEII, 1x EM Hardener II, 1x Invul II, 1x Shield Recharger II LOW: 3x BCUII, 2x SPRII
2x Purger rigs, 5x Light Drones.
Haven't had any problems with L4s in, well, ever.
...I am a part of all that I have met, Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Shines that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever as I move... |
E Vile
|
Posted - 2007.10.03 05:26:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Aramis Rosicrux OK, I have been doing trial and error and this is about my favorite (from memory, I am at work now):
High Slot: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II 1x 'spare' (Small Nosferatu, Drone Range Extender, Small Remote Armor Repair, Small Smartbomb, Transport Beam or maybe a Salvager) or you can totally waste the space with a Auto Targeter.
Med: 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Shield Recharger II
Low: 2x Shield Power Relay II 3x Ballistic Control System
Rigs: 2x Core Defense Field Purger
Drones: 5x Small Combat T-II select for mission, usually Hobgoblins
Now this uses no cap at all. No hardeners, no boosters, no damage controls. You could NOS me all day and I can still fire missiles.
I can't calculate how much damage it can take, but lets just say that with a set of LG Crystal implants, I have not seen it fall below half shields. Ever.
Now, in a Fleet battle I would probably be toasted by the sheer volume of damage, but this ship rocks for Missions, I can even do level fours alone (and we all know how stupid that can be!)
I think the Nighthawk is the best ship I have ever flown, its the only benefit of several millions of skill points I wasted training up all those leadership skills!
Don't crystal implants effect shield boost amount?? How would this help a passive regen setup? "The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering."
|
E Vile
Fifth Exiled Legion SMASH Alliance
|
Posted - 2007.10.09 00:18:00 -
[88]
Originally by: IceCreamMonster
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire 6x Heavy Launcher II 1x Whatever
1x Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster 2x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field 1x Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field 1x Pithum A-Type Magnetic Scattering Amplifier
3x Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System 1x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Damage Control II
2x CCC
5x Hornet II
Tanking with no loss of DPS, makes L4 a bit boring :/
Why are you using T2 Launchers when you using pith boosters and DG invul? Why not match the rest of the pimp setup with DG Launchers or Navy Launchers? Unless you are using T2 ammo?
I prefer T2 for the spec skill bonus. Takes more skills, but tons less isk.
"The key to immortality is to first live a life worth remembering."
|
Aramendel
Amarr North Face Force
|
Posted - 2007.10.09 06:08:00 -
[89]
DG/CN launchers are still better even if you have lvl5 in the spec. 10.5 base ROF vs 10.8 base ROF.
Around 500 mil for those though of cource, but if you already spent 3 bil+ for the other mods thats not an huge issue.
|
Hans Angry
Caldari Down In Flames
|
Posted - 2007.10.16 01:57:00 -
[90]
currently i run, tanks well, no issues so far. i prefer t2 cause i can use it, and faction is a little pricey but ive consitered it. anyone have any opinions on how i can improve?
High: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II 1x Gang mod should fit or tractor, whatever you want
Medium: 1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Invulnerability Field II 1x Shield Boost Amplifier II 1x Large Capacitor Battery II 1x Cap Recharger II
Low: 2x BCU II 3x PDS II
Rig: 1x Core Defence Operational Solidifier I 1x Capacitor Control Circuit I
|
|
Aramendel
Amarr North Face Force
|
Posted - 2007.10.16 10:19:00 -
[91]
Go passive. Unless you use faction equipment and/or a gang assist module boosting ship it is far better.
To compare: your setup has a regeneration of 96 shield/sec and as only harderner an invul field.
A setup with 2 LSE2, 3 SPR2 and 2 purger rigs does a max regen of 105 shield/sec. AND has room for 3 harderners instead of only 1. And does the same dps - more for most missions actually since your tank will be fine with only 2 SPR2 for the majority of them.
|
Allestin Villimar
|
Posted - 2007.10.16 11:44:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Aramendel DG/CN launchers are still better even if you have lvl5 in the spec. 10.5 base ROF vs 10.8 base ROF.
Around 500 mil for those though of cource, but if you already spent 3 bil+ for the other mods thats not an huge issue.
Yeah, but remember that they also get a large effect from rate of fire bonuses due to having a larger base number. If you've got heavy missile spec at level 5 and 3 BCUs, you're only going to be firing about a tenth of a second slower than the cn/dg ones, so the dps difference will be minimal. That being said, faction launchers can fit slightly more missiles, so they are better in that aspect.
|
Aramendel
Amarr North Face Force
|
Posted - 2007.10.16 12:51:00 -
[93]
Uh... that does not matter at all. The relation stays exactly the same, be it with 0 BCUs or with 5 BCUs.
The DG/CN launcher will only do around 5% more dps than a t2 launcher with spec 4, but it will do that difference no matter which other fittings you have.
|
Chung Pow
|
Posted - 2007.12.08 17:06:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Chung Pow on 08/12/2007 17:07:23 Any setups for veng 5 of 5?
I had some folks ask me to help them with a mission some time ago...I was flying my nighthawk and had encounted very little resistance on any mission. However, I took on the challenge..with one slight mistake...I didnt ask what they were flying before I went in....solo...the whole room had been pulled and I immdiatly new I was gonna have a problem. I allways keep a osprey with shield transporters standing by just in case I get into trouble....well I warped the osprey in as fast as I could push the button. just in the ammount of time it took me to get alligned to warp I popped my nighthawk...the osprey came out of warp at about that time as well...POP!!
After all that I had asked them what they were flying...2 of them were in navy battleships, 1 in a regular battleship, and 1 in an astarte. I thought to myself...NICE!!! What a noob I am for not asking that first.
The only way we were able to complete the mission was with me getting into a basilisk with 5 permarun large shield transporters on the astarte...still almost lost the astarte. Most of these folks were 40+ mil skill points.
Can anyone please help me with a setup in case I run into that again. for that mission specificly.
Thanks
|
Bacci Galu
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
|
Posted - 2007.12.15 02:39:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Bacci Galu on 15/12/2007 02:44:18 6 hvy t2 drone link ::::::::: DG Invul Gist B Photon 1 x LSE 2 Gist B Shield Boost Amp Dread Guristas Large Shiled booster ::::::::: 4 x PDU 2 1 x Caldari Navy Ballistic controller ::::::::: 2 times CCC rigs ::::::::: Drones to suit mission ----------------
Will run any lvl 4 with no dramas... And will do so not breaking a sweat... * And u will only need to swap drones and ammo...its a generic fit For the record i have run all caldari lvl 4's solo in this..but i will admit its better if u have a wingman in the same ship (like i do)... u peel through lvl 4's like butter..
*That is if u are not an idiot and know what ure doing (ie trigger spawns, drone management ect)
:: |
Zerode
|
Posted - 2007.12.22 14:34:00 -
[96]
My lvl4 setup
High dps and godlike tank 700-800dps tank on uniform damage, 800-1100dps tank against Therm and Kinetic rats. 600-665dps of gank isn't to bad, makes missioning barable.
Even using nothing but T2 gear this setup can solo all lvl4 missions easy.
High: 6 Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launchers 1 Dronelink Augmentation
Mid: 10MN Afterburner (T2, Caldari Navy or Officer) 2 Active hardners (T2, Caldari Navy or Officer) * For omni res tanking take off the AB and put on 1 officer EM hardner and 2 Caldari Navy Invulnerability Fields. (90% res average and 24/7 cap stable) 2 Large Shield Extenders II
Low: 3 Caldari Navy Balistic Control Systems 2 Shield Power Relay II
Rigs: 2 Core Defence Field Purger II
Drones: 5 Small T2 Scout Drones
Some nice hardwiring and a snake set on top of this and you're set. |
Zaqar
|
Posted - 2007.12.22 14:45:00 -
[97]
Here's mine, bought a few of the gist boosters back when the plexes were farm-tastic:
6 x HML 2, tractor -- Gist B-type LSB Gist B-Type Amp 2 x Dread Invul 1 x Other hardener -- 3 x BCU 2 2 x Cap flux 2 -- 2 x CCC
Doubt I'd shell out for this at current prices though.
|
Mythro
Caldari Deep Space Construction
|
Posted - 2008.01.28 21:42:00 -
[98]
I've been running lvl 4's with this setup for quite a while and have had little to no issue with it:
Hi: 6x HML T2 (rof of 4.86 seconds), Tractor beam(for decent loot in missions) Mid: 1 large shield booster T2, 4 rat spec hardeners (I use 2 cal navy just for the cpu bonus) Low: 3 bcu's T2, 2 pdu T2
rig: 2 ccc's This setup needs the 2 faction hardeners to run the tractor beam otherwise it won't fit and you might as well stick with all T2's for the hardeners. This isn't an indefinite tank but it does enough to offset you till you kill the hard hitting rats.
|
Taloic
Caldari Black Watch Regiment New Eden Conglomerate
|
Posted - 2008.01.29 02:45:00 -
[99]
Well I may as well toss in my 2 cents. My Universal level 4 Mish setup IE Never change Hardeners Never change Damage types. Cost me just over 1 bil Ship and Mods though I did have 2 CN BCS already when I went from a Torp CNR to a Nighthawk. To be honest im haveing alot more fun in the NH then my old CNR and seeing standard heavys break 2.5 mil BS's is halarious.
Highs 6 Caldari Navy HML - useing standard scourges for 420 dps, Command Ship 5 and Rapid Reload 5 boost it up.
Even the Blood Raider and Gurista Vengence 2.5mil BS's go pop. Standard scourges because Navy are just not cost effective 25isk per missle or 1500isk per missle hmmm. With navys 482 dps ya its 62 more but not cost effective.
Mids Em 69 Therm 91 Kin 88 Exp 87 2 DG Invuln fields 3 Large Shield Extender 2's 106 peak regen 623 defense rateing according to EFT dont really pay much attention to the latter though.
This tank has been more then enough for every misson ive run and ive run Level 4's in all but Minmar space. " Yea im collecting the whole set of Navial Ships and getting JC's all over the place "
Im currently running mish for the Amarr Ministry of War so ive been hit by everything the Sansha and Blood Raiders can throw at me still never got below 40% so 68% resist is plenty.
Lows
3 Caldari Navy BCS - Extra Dps > Extra Tanking there is such a thing as overtanking a mission class. 2 SPR II's
Rigs
2 Core Defense Purger I's
Not sure if I really want to waste the cash on 2's since ive never needed any extra Tanking ability on a level 4.
Drones
5 mish specific tech 2 light scout drones I do swap these depending on what im fighting.
|
Keri Rydell
|
Posted - 2008.02.23 17:32:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Aramendel Edited by: Aramendel on 16/10/2007 13:01:25 Uh... that does not matter at all. The 10.5/10.8 relation stays exactly the same, be it with 0 BCUs or with 5 BCUs.
That assumes that you get 10.8 base ROF out of the box for HML IIs - you don't. HM Spec V will take at least a month of training and it does nothing at all usefull other than bringing the ROF from 12 to 10.8 for HML IIs since nothing else is affected by this skill. CN HML load more missiles AND fire faster requiring nothing extra invested skills wise. I'll opt for them every time. (I'm sure T2 missiles are great but aren't they an overkill for a mission running NH?)
|
|
Lumberjackhammer
Caldari Wildlands Heavy Technologies FOUNDATI0N
|
Posted - 2008.02.23 17:42:00 -
[101]
for lvl 4`s you dont wanna go all tank, its safe yes, but a nighthawk is always safe if you look on the screen when flying it :)
go 3 shield power relays' 1 em 2 invulvs 2 extenders and 2 purger rigs
gives you 106/s recharge, wich is enough for any mission as long as you sit at the computer when running them.
with 2 bcu`s, 7 launchers and cn ammo you get a bit over 500 dps, wich isnt far away from a cruise raven.
|
Taloic
Caldari Black Watch Regiment New Eden Conglomerate
|
Posted - 2008.02.23 19:57:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Lumberjackhammer for lvl 4`s you dont wanna go all tank, its safe yes, but a nighthawk is always safe if you look on the screen when flying it :)
go 3 shield power relays' 1 em 2 invulvs 2 extenders and 2 purger rigs
gives you 106/s recharge, wich is enough for any mission as long as you sit at the computer when running them.
with 2 bcu`s, 7 launchers and cn ammo you get a bit over 500 dps, wich isnt far away from a cruise raven.
Ok how are you fitting 7 HML's on a ship with 6 launcher hardpoints.
Besides with 6 HML's fireing Cn ammo you get just under 500 dps but its not cost efficient. 34 isk per missle useing scourge or 1500 isk per missle useing CN ammo. You run the missons just as fast useing scourge heavies rather then CN scourge heavies so its really a no brainer.
Unless of course you enjoy cutting into your profit margins and blowing 500k to 1 mil in missles each mission.
|
Lumberjackhammer
Caldari Wildlands Heavy Technologies FOUNDATI0N
|
Posted - 2008.02.23 20:04:00 -
[103]
I meant 6 launchers ofcourse, and cn ammo doesnt cost that much if you buy it from the LP store.
I make more isk per hour this way anyways
|
Dr Sublime
Republic University
|
Posted - 2008.04.01 03:04:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Dr Sublime on 01/04/2008 03:04:59 Anyone have a current passive tank set up to recommend for lvl 4/5 Missions?
|
thorax spartan
|
Posted - 2008.04.01 07:25:00 -
[105]
Edited by: thorax spartan on 01/04/2008 07:26:20 my passive lvl4 setup is highs 6 x hml t2 1 x tractor beam meds 1 x photon scatering t2 2 x invul field t2 2 x lse t2 lows 2 x bcu t2 1 x pdu t2 2 x spr t2 5 x light t2 drones
i have solo'd all lvl4's in this with out any probs at all including the ae bonus room but i havnt seen that mission in ages as for lvl5's i havnt tried them so cnt help you with that m8e hope this helps please note i have all shield skills to at least lvl4 passive regen and max shield hp both lvl5
thorax spartan ceo - legion industries proud member of v3
|
Verrain Ravenlark
|
Posted - 2008.04.01 14:52:00 -
[106]
Originally by: JenDen Got question. My current fit is this:
6 T2 HML
1 T2 Large Shield Extender 1 T2 Large Shield Booster 3 Race specific hardeners
3 T2 PDU 2 T2 BCU
Planning on getting Rof rig but the problem is CPU. Got Electronics 5 and WU 5, but still I can only fit that rig with lvl5 at missile launcher rigging (which would take a bit). Will probably get 1 cap recharge rig and swap 1 PDU for BCU, but again will suffer from lack of CPU. Is fractional gear the only solution?
If you run the numbers you do just as well for DPS adding a field purger rig instead of a rate of rife rig and adding another BCU.
|
Elsdragon
|
Posted - 2008.05.10 19:15:00 -
[107]
[LOWS] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II
[MIDS] Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster Pith X-Type Photon Scattering Field
[HIGHS] Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher Caldari Navy Heavy Missile Launcher Small Tractor Beam I
[RIGS] Polycarbon Engine Housing I Polycarbon Engine Housing I
[DRONES] Hobgoblin II x5
[STATS] TANK: EM/THERM/KIN/EXP - 88/92/90/89 (492 DPS omni-tank) DPS: 621 DPS (539 missile/82 drone) SPEED: 541 M/S (BS tracking fail) 10.7s align CAP: -19.4/+19.7 (with tractor off...) RANGE: 80km heavies/75km target SIZE: 285m2 signature (Large turrets/cruise/torps fail)
|
Soong Hay
Caldari TAKAGI Corp
|
Posted - 2008.05.10 23:59:00 -
[108]
So, just to make sure I got it right. If I want to do l4 mission in a Nighthawk I'm going to have to spend ten time the amount of isk I would spend on a raven?
I'm 40 days away from boarding in the coolest Caldari vessel but I don't have the fund to spend a billion on a fit to buckle up my missions.
Is there a way to still be efficient (even just 20% less than a raven) and not burn my wallet down? How much would cost (in an average) a reasonable nighthawk fit? And how much cost a reasonable raven fit?
I'm kind of reluctant to fly a raven, it's to me one of the ugliest ship in this game
Thanks
|
Dearest Wish
State War Academy
|
Posted - 2008.05.11 01:09:00 -
[109]
Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Gistum A-Type Heat Dissipation Amplifier Gistum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier Gistum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Tanks 2.6k Guristas DPS. Used for Level 5's. So just replace some SPR's for BCU's where/when you want for level 4's.
|
Waxau
The Fated Odyssey.
|
Posted - 2008.05.11 01:39:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Waxau on 11/05/2008 01:39:26 WTF....Geez...
Right - simple fit, ive always used it, breaks any tanks, tanks any rooms, even with full aggro.
3 LSE, 2 rat specific hardeners, 1 shield recharger. lows = mix of SPR II, BCU II and should you need it, an RCU/PDU
highs = default 6 HML
rigs = purgers
Oh and btw - full t2 is needed, but no where further.
|
|
Grendel Marqun
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
|
Posted - 2008.05.11 12:22:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Waxau Edited by: Waxau on 11/05/2008 01:39:26 WTF....Geez...
Right - simple fit, ive always used it, breaks any tanks, tanks any rooms, even with full aggro.
3 LSE, 2 rat specific hardeners, 1 shield recharger. lows = mix of SPR II, BCU II and should you need it, an RCU/PDU
highs = default 6 HML
rigs = purgers
Oh and btw - full t2 is needed, but no where further.
WTB NH with 6 mids.
|
Osta N'Slick
Gallente Galactic Praetorian and Fabrication Coterie
|
Posted - 2008.05.11 15:22:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Osta N''Slick on 11/05/2008 15:22:54
Originally by: Soong Hay So, just to make sure I got it right. If I want to do l4 mission in a Nighthawk I'm going to have to spend ten time the amount of isk I would spend on a raven?
Of course not. :)
I've never seen a reason to buy any faction gear for my passive tanked NH. Faction launchers cant use t2 missiles which I use for a lot of close to mid ranged BS. CN BCS... well, maybe I'll get those. :)
Current setup is -
6x HML II, Drone Link Aug 3x rat specific hards II, 2x LSE II 3x BCS II, 2x SPR II
I think the pressure to buy faction gear for a Raven is a bit greater because of how much a faction booster and amp can improve your tank.
With a passive NH there's no great need for anything faction, imo.
|
Ortos
Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.05.11 17:13:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Dr Fighter 6x heavy II 3x large shield extender II. 2x magnetic scattering II, shiled recharger II 5x SPR II
ultimate tank, use furys
Havent looked in to this really, but has anyone got any experience with "capless" setups in order to get the additional DPS you usually get off BCU's thru using Fury's instead?
|
Soong Hay
Caldari TAKAGI Corp
|
Posted - 2008.05.11 17:54:00 -
[114]
Thanks for your answer Osta
|
Grendel Marqun
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
|
Posted - 2008.05.11 17:59:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Ortos
Originally by: Dr Fighter 6x heavy II 3x large shield extender II. 2x magnetic scattering II, shiled recharger II 5x SPR II
ultimate tank, use furys
Havent looked in to this really, but has anyone got any experience with "capless" setups in order to get the additional DPS you usually get off BCU's thru using Fury's instead?
For $diety's sake, WHY?? Unless you guys have found some magic mission that's at least 3 times as bad as I've ever seen, there is no reason at ALL to have some holycrapludicrous tank. You can fit a passive regen/active hardener setup that blows the Drake away tankwise, and have 3 bcs for DPS, AND use Furys if you insist on T2 ammo for truly insane dps.
What is this fascination with overtanking mission ships, anyway? Why cripple your dps to add more tank that you will never need? Yeah, sure, I could set my ship up to tank god himself, but why bother? 3 BCS II adds more than 50% to your missile DPS over having none. I see the same thing in Drake threads. Obscene tanks, and DPS that isn't that much better than a well fitted Caracal, ffs! Do people actually LIKE taking 3 hours to finish a mission?
And to be constructive (presuming I didn't miss an identical one somewhere in the thread):
6 HML II 2 LSE II, 3 rat-spec hardeners 2 SPR II, 3 BCS II 2 CDFP I 5 T2 light drones
Deals 430ish dps with scourge and hornet 2s, 370ish if you're not kinetic-based. Call it 500/430 if you go for the fury option, but the range sucks. Out tanks the Drake I used to fly, and I never lost one of those, either.
|
Ortos
Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.05.11 20:52:00 -
[116]
A truely insane passive tank allows me to watch movies while playing EVE. Very usefull for killing booredom.
|
Will Tippin
Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire
|
Posted - 2008.05.14 09:02:00 -
[117]
I have faction bcu's and launchers only, just for making killing stuff quicker... a t2 tank on a nighthawk is more than enough for lvl4 missions imo...
|
cianide pro
|
Posted - 2008.05.14 10:16:00 -
[118]
6 t2 heavy launchers
t2 large shield booster t2 shield boost amp t2 cap recharger t2 pasive em hardener t2 invul
3 t2 balistic controls 2 t2 cap power relays
1 cap recharge rig 1 warhead calefaction catalyst
in combination with a 5% rof implant you will get a rof of 4.6 sec and get 335 damage on scourges can run the shield boostre non stop aswel .
|
DaJokr
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.05.28 22:48:00 -
[119]
Edited by: DaJokr on 28/05/2008 22:53:28 Edit; Was same setup as Grendel with a couple exceptions, I use 2 Invuln II and an EM II, and when the tank is really going to take some abuse, I take the hit with less DPS by removing a BCU and fitting a 3rd SPR.
My 0.02 isk worth.
|
Will Tippin
Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire
|
Posted - 2008.06.01 13:33:00 -
[120]
hmm, i see many of you fit 2x invulns, a photon and 2 large extenders..
for me, the second invuln gives only a few percentages more resists (3-4% extra). seems it would be much better with a shield recharger (15% better recharge rate) 1x invuln, 1x photon and the 2 extenders? or am i missing some math thing here?
|
|
Klavayne
|
Posted - 2008.06.01 16:11:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Will Tippin hmm, i see many of you fit 2x invulns, a photon and 2 large extenders..
for me, the second invuln gives only a few percentages more resists (3-4% extra). seems it would be much better with a shield recharger (15% better recharge rate) 1x invuln, 1x photon and the 2 extenders? or am i missing some math thing here?
You need to be looking at it from the other side, resist-wise. Say with your EM and one Invuln field, your kinetic resist will be 81.3%, meaning that 18.7% of the damage gets through. Now you stick the second invuln field on and the resistance goes to 85.4% meaning 14.6% of the kinetic damage goes through. Increasing the tank by 22% on kinetic and a similar amount on the other resists, except for EM which will be less due to stacking penalties (cba working it out).
Compare this to the shield recharger which gives a 15% reduction in shield recharge equating to a 17-18% (roughly) increase in effective tank. You can see that the second invulnerability field gives a better increase in tank. The difference would be smaller if you were then deciding on a 3rd invuln field or a shield recharger as the stacking penalty would hit the invuln field hard. Hope that helps.
P.S. Its a different matter if you have all your lows filled with SPRs as you probably wont be cap stable with 3 hardeners but you shouldnt need all SPRs for missions anyway.
|
Andrue
Amarr
|
Posted - 2008.07.21 09:52:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Andrue on 21/07/2008 09:52:54
Originally by: Will Tippin hmm, i see many of you fit 2x invulns, a photon and 2 large extenders..
for me, the second invuln gives only a few percentages more resists (3-4% extra). seems it would be much better with a shield recharger (15% better recharge rate) 1x invuln, 1x photon and the 2 extenders? or am i missing some math thing here?
Not me.
[High] 6xCN HML; Medium Beam II (hey - it's a weapon and I have the skills for it)
[Mid] 3xLSEII;DG Invuln;<rat specific faction resist>
[Low] Some combination of SPR and CN BCS
[Rigs] 2xPurger I
Tbh the tank is overkill but I like it. I fly the NH because I want it to be bulletproof and this is. I can't do anything practical to increase DPS and an AB is hardly needed and would cripple the capacitor. With this setup running a L4 becomes like mining in a high-sec system. No need to even look at the shields or cap reading. Just blow stuff up and collect the Isk. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
|
Posted - 2008.07.21 10:45:00 -
[123]
CHEAP fit:
6x HML-II, 1x anything (tractor beam maybe) 2x LSE-II, mission-specific ACTIVE hardeners (2x em, 2x invul, 2x kin, 1x thermal, 1x explo is all you really need, pick three) 3x BCS-II, 2x SPR-II 2x Purger I 5x Hobgoblin II
Implants Slot 7 : KVA2000 Slot 9 : KYA2000 Slot10 : ZMM1000
Perma-runs any selection of hardeners, tanks just about anything except a full spawn in EA5/5 or AE4 bonus room, deals around 480 DPS at my current skills with T1 ammo. Costs 210 mil ISK including ship, rigs and all mods Imlants are a different matter, but those you shouldn't be able to LOSE when running missions unless you really screwed up (like, say, running missions in lowsec/0.0 and failing to bail out when hostile players show up).
_
THE APPRENTICE || mineral balance || nanofix
|
Kenji Kikuta
|
Posted - 2008.07.23 10:31:00 -
[124]
My fury ammo NH fit:
HI: 6x Heavy launcher T2 (w fury ammo), 1x Drone link ME: 3x Missions spec faction hardeners, 1x Cap booster (w 200s/400s), 1x Large shield booster LO: 4x Faction ballistic controls, 1x Damage control RIGS: 1x Hydraulic bay (missile velocity), 1x Fuel cache (missile flight time)
With relevant missile skills maxed and +5% launcher hardwirings, this setup gives me a range of 53 km and DPS close to 600 (kinetic) without drones. Throwing in drones when ripping through BSs makes mission whoring fun.
Warp in - active launchers and shields - watch as shit die quickly!
The shield booster is there for the occasions when I **** up the aggro.
|
Andrue
Amarr
|
Posted - 2008.08.04 07:10:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Kenji Kikuta Edited by: Kenji Kikuta on 23/07/2008 11:34:54 My fury ammo NH fit:
HI: 6x Heavy launcher T2 (w fury ammo), 1x Drone link ME: 3x Missions spec faction hardeners, 1x Cap booster (w 200s/400s), 1x Large shield booster LO: 4x Faction ballistic controls, 1x Damage control RIGS: 1x Hydraulic bay (missile velocity), 1x Fuel cache (missile flight time)
With relevant missile skills maxed and +5% launcher hardwirings, this setup gives me a range of 53 km and DPS close to 600 (kinetic) without drones. Throwing in drones when ripping through BSs makes mission whoring fun.
Warp in - activate launchers and resists - watch as shit die quickly!
The shield/cap booster is there for the occasions when I **** up the aggro.
Um..if you switched to a semi-passive tank you wouldn't be able to screw up the aggro. Seriously - you should give it a try. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned. |
Dev Rom
Caldari Masterminds Industries
|
Posted - 2008.08.04 11:41:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Dev Rom on 04/08/2008 11:42:30 I got only 21M sp and with my skills, my Nighthawk can withstand all lvl4 missions but Enemies Abound 5/5. Hi 6x HML T2 Md 3x rat specific shield hardener t2 1x Medium Shield Booster t2 1x Afterburner 10mn t2 lo 4x Ballistic control system t2 1x Capacitor power relay t2 rig 2x CCC t1
DPS with scourge missile with my skills is 395.
Only heavly tanket bs take much time to kill, but if I go at low distance, no defender can beat the volley damage (1895) and no bs can withstand it.
Pretty cheap and much more efficient than raven, and no need for drones. I am not your carpet ride, I am the sky.. |
Kenji Kikuta
|
Posted - 2008.08.08 11:47:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Andrue
Originally by: Kenji Kikuta Edited by: Kenji Kikuta on 23/07/2008 11:34:54 My fury ammo NH fit:
HI: 6x Heavy launcher T2 (w fury ammo), 1x Drone link ME: 3x Missions spec faction hardeners, 1x Cap booster (w 200s/400s), 1x Large shield booster LO: 4x Faction ballistic controls, 1x Damage control RIGS: 1x Hydraulic bay (missile velocity), 1x Fuel cache (missile flight time)
With relevant missile skills maxed and +5% launcher hardwirings, this setup gives me a range of 53 km and DPS close to 600 (kinetic) without drones. Throwing in drones when ripping through BSs makes mission whoring fun.
Warp in - activate launchers and resists - watch as shit die quickly!
The shield/cap booster is there for the occasions when I **** up the aggro.
Um..if you switched to a semi-passive tank you wouldn't be able to screw up the aggro. Seriously - you should give it a try.
In the context of level 4 mission whoring, IMHO, a semi-passive tank (which I suppose you mean by fitting the ship with shield extenders, shield relays, active hardeners and purger rigs, yes?) is way less effective than my setup. A semi-passive fit does NOT allow you to mount 4 ballistic controls and use fury ammo effectively, which btw gives 25% more damage compared to regular heavies.
I understand your concern, by as I stated, my shield/capbooster are there to provide backup when shit hits the fan -> level 4s are cake.
/Kenji
|
Quincunx
Minmatar Subspace Anomaly
|
Posted - 2008.08.08 16:34:00 -
[128]
Currently testing:
6x T2 HML 1x Drone Link Augmentor
2x DG rat specific active hards 2x T2 LSE 1x rat specific DG resistance amp (could be swapped for something else if needed)
2x T2 BCU 3x T2 SPR
2x Field Purger rigs
Works well so far. :)
|
Two Flower
Caldari Allied Tactical Unit Scalar Federation
|
Posted - 2008.08.09 10:05:00 -
[129]
That's basically the setup im just about to go and buy for my first nighthawk :) seems OK on paper to me, i hope it works as well in the field.
|
SmurfR
|
Posted - 2008.09.20 11:13:00 -
[130]
My 2 Cents Worth..
PvE Setup Lvl 4s.
High
6 x Caldari Navy HML (Rat Specific CN Heavy Missiles) Gang Bonus Module - Shield Harmonizing
Med
Pithum A Type Medium Shield Booster Large Shield Extender II 2 x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field
Low
3 x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Capacitor Power Relay II
Rigs
2 x Capacitor Control Circuit
Drones
Hornet II x 5
Effective Hitpoints 114,259 Shield Resists EM 84.9/THER 92.3/KIN 90.4/EXP 89.8
Total DPS 515 Volley Damage 2234 Locking and firing range 76KM
I have been using this setup for a long time now and it perma runs all modules and Tank. It can solo any Lvl 4 mission and bonus rooms with ease.
I have alt in same system for Gang bonuses. It chews through BS spawns like they are butter.
Now looking for a decent PvP Setup which i Know is out there somewhere.
Nighthawk is a wicked ship and prefer flying it to any BS.
Could do with 1 more Mid Slot though... (Hint Hint )
|
|
MaidMarion
Federal Defence Union
|
Posted - 2008.09.20 11:39:00 -
[131]
Edited by: MaidMarion on 20/09/2008 11:40:34 Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
tanks ~997 uni damage perma run, will tank more when fine tuned to mission. deals approx 520 dps with top skills and faction missiles.
|
Gul Rashen
Perkone
|
Posted - 2008.09.20 12:24:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Gul Rashen on 20/09/2008 12:25:09
Originally by: MaidMarion
tanks ~997 uni damage perma run, will tank more when fine tuned to mission. deals approx 520 dps with top skills and faction missiles.
997? Sure? EFT says 679. Sell the CN BCU and the Booster and buy a Pithum A Med. Will be ~ the same price.
[Nighthawk] Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Small Tractor Beam I
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tanks 10% more and has 5% more DMG.
My Fitting: [Nighthawk, Doubleboost] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Small Tractor Beam I
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
Its cheap, capstable and has good Damage. Tank is good enough for every lvl4 Mission.
|
MaidMarion
Federal Defence Union
|
Posted - 2008.09.20 16:55:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Gul Rashen Edited by: Gul Rashen on 20/09/2008 12:25:09
Originally by: MaidMarion
tanks ~997 uni damage perma run, will tank more when fine tuned to mission. deals approx 520 dps with top skills and faction missiles.
997? Sure? EFT says 679. Sell the CN BCU and the Booster and buy a Pithum A Med. Will be ~ the same price.
Yup, my eft says 997, maybe your skills suck or you should stop using undersized shield boosters.
|
Wanderlust Vash
|
Posted - 2008.10.04 05:33:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Gul Rashen Edited by: Gul Rashen on 20/09/2008 12:25:09
Originally by: MaidMarion
My Fitting: [Nighthawk, Doubleboost] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Small Tractor Beam I
Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hobgoblin II x5
Its cheap, capstable and has good Damage. Tank is good enough for every lvl4 Mission.
Thanks for your setup it is pretty good!
|
Maaxeru
|
Posted - 2008.10.04 09:57:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Maaxeru on 04/10/2008 10:06:12
Erm . . . You can solo every Level IV (including AE bonus room) in a freaking Drake. Let alone Raven. And certainly let alone a NH.
If you need advice on how to solo level IVs in a NH you should:
1) Not be in level IV's - You don't know enough on how to fit out ships to be there, and
2) Not be flying a NH. You don't appreciate fully its strengths and weaknesses.
I've seen vid's of a solo NH in certain Lvl V's . . . which is a WORLD apart from Lvl IVs . . . .
Skill up, learn up, and then do it . . . EDIT: Yes - NOT being nasty - will cost you less in the long term on ship replacements.
But asking here how you take a command ship into a mission that can be solo'd by a BC????
Just send me 1/2 the price of a NH now and we'll both be ahead of the game. |
Reyna Neens
|
Posted - 2008.11.18 23:14:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Reyna Neens on 18/11/2008 23:19:25 Edit: Ignore my post for now. I need to test out a few things first. |
Dracthera
|
Posted - 2008.11.18 23:43:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Klavayne In my opinion its really not worth using the 4th BCU, its penalty stacked to hell. If you really want to maximise your damage get yourself the new 5% to heavy missile damage implant and either 5% ROF or 5% all missile damage. Then use that spare slot for another PDU or a damage control, 4th BCU might make you money 3-4% quicker but a DCU could save that very expensive setup in an emergency.
I really wish people would stop telling others the 4th BCU is worthless, especially in the same paragraph as mentioning a 140 mil implant to achieve less of an impact. The 4th BCU adds roughly 6%-7% DPS to a setup, while the implant adds 5%. If you can fit it, the 4th BCU is absolutely worth it. As long as you have roughly 500-600 tanking defense for all situations, then use all the other remaining slots to dole out DPS. |
Noriko Sakai
Gallente DC1 Coalition
|
Posted - 2008.11.19 00:33:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Noriko Sakai on 19/11/2008 00:35:38 Edited by: Noriko Sakai on 19/11/2008 00:34:57 Edited by: Noriko Sakai on 19/11/2008 00:33:51 Go active, Tank over 600 forever, 400+ DPS and cheap
[Nighthawk, Nighthawk1] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Shield Boost Amplifier II Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Salvager I
Capacitor Control Circuit I Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
|
Draahk Chimera
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.11.24 10:27:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia 6x HML II
3x LSE II 2x rat specific hardener
2x BCU II 3x PDU II
5x light drones
2x shield recharge rig
You'll have around 95-100shield/sec peak regen. If you're killing Serpentis or Guristas you'll have more than enough of a tank.
Awesome setup. Thanks for posting it. Although I use 3 BCU II and 2 PDU II and my tank never fails.
|
mallum123
|
Posted - 2009.01.06 19:44:00 -
[140]
Using EFT i tried a few of your differenet setups and i came up with this:
[High Slots] 6 x T2 heavy launchers
[Med Slots] 2 x Pithi B-Type Small Shield Boosters 1 x T2 Invuln 2 x Shield Boost Amp T2
[Low Slots] 2 x BCS T2 3 x PDS T2
[Rigs] ROF RIG CCC RIG
This is perma run all the mods and u can stick anything u like in the extra high :D let me know your thoughts
|
|
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
|
Posted - 2009.01.06 19:52:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 06/01/2009 19:54:56 Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 06/01/2009 19:53:00
Originally by: mallum123 Using EFT i tried a few of your differenet setups and i came up with this:
[High Slots] 6 x T2 heavy launchers
[Med Slots] 2 x Pithi B-Type Small Shield Boosters 1 x T2 Invuln 2 x Shield Boost Amp T2
[Low Slots] 2 x BCS T2 3 x PDS T2
[Rigs] ROF RIG CCC RIG
This is perma run all the mods and u can stick anything u like in the extra high :D let me know your thoughts
Seem rather weak for PvP. :/.
Might di mission well tho, but thats not the NH issue ;)
Originally by: Draahk Chimera
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia 6x HML II
3x LSE II 2x rat specific hardener
2x BCU II 3x PDU II
5x light drones
2x shield recharge rig
You'll have around 95-100shield/sec peak regen. If you're killing Serpentis or Guristas you'll have more than enough of a tank.
Awesome setup. Thanks for posting it. Although I use 3 BCU II and 2 PDU II and my tank never fails.
Poor for PvP, and poor for PvE as well imo. to few damage mods.
Come on guys! Stop these PvE setups, yes we know it works in PvE, whoop de do. It bites for PvP, and thats the issue.
|
Cade Morrigan
Caldari
|
Posted - 2009.01.06 19:59:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Come on guys! Stop these PvE setups, yes we know it works in PvE, whoop de do. It bites for PvP, and thats the issue.
You fail at thread identification. |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
|
Posted - 2009.01.06 20:02:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Cade Morrigan
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Come on guys! Stop these PvE setups, yes we know it works in PvE, whoop de do. It bites for PvP, and thats the issue.
You fail at thread identification.
Yes I do. And I admit it :P
|
True Ace
Gallente Fat Bastards MACHI MISCHIEF
|
Posted - 2009.01.06 21:05:00 -
[144]
my first nighthawk
6x t2 HMLs, drone link or salvager
2x t2 invuls, 3x t2 LSEs or (2 and a AB)
2x t2 BCUs, 1x t2 PDU, 2x t2 shield power relays
2x purger, 5x t2 hobs
perma runs everything ab and all
|
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
|
Posted - 2009.01.06 21:09:00 -
[145]
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 06/01/2009 21:10:06 On the note of PvE, and ratting, I have used this:
[Nighthawk, Ratting HML] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5
I used the cloak since I was in 0.0, but a salvager, tractor or drone link works as well. Worked well in guiristas space. Use rat spec hardeners if wanted, but in case I was getting shot at by som lame reds I went for invuls and buffer tank :)
|
Freyus Bargem
|
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:01:00 -
[146]
Done a few level 4's with this now and it works like a charm + not overly expensive.
6 Heavy Missile Launchers II - Scourge - T1 Ammo Tractor beam
Mids 2 Invuln Fields II 2 Pithi B Type Small Shield Booster 1 Passive EM Mod
Lows 3 Ballistic dControl Unit 2 Cap power Relay
Rigs 2 Capacitor Control Ciruit
Of the missions i have done i havnt dropped below 90% shield Perma runs the 2 booosters and deals a hell of a lot of damage - without drones
Cap stable at around 60%.
|
Orion GUardian
Caldari
|
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:46:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Orion GUardian on 15/02/2009 17:46:51 6 HML II - Scourge or Scourge Fury dependand on Target Auto Targeter II [I like Having lots of locked targets ^^] 2 LSE II 2 Rat Specific Hardeners Dependand on how heavy your tank has to be: PWNAGE or 3rd Hardener
3 CN BCU 2 SPR
2 Core Defense Field Purger Rigs I
Tanks like hell if needed. With T2 Fury missiles deals out heavy dmg against BS and BC, with Target Painter fitted against cruisers, too [anything smaller should be hit with T1 missiles].
|
Silver Fusion
Amarr Viziam
|
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:46:00 -
[148]
Works perfect on EVERY level 4 mission:
[Nighthawk, L4 Missions] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Hobgoblin II x5
Change hardeners of course...
|
Orion GUardian
Caldari
|
Posted - 2009.02.15 17:49:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Silver Fusion Works perfect on EVERY level 4 mission:
[Nighthawk, L4 Missions] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Hobgoblin II x5
Change hardeners of course...
Same as mine, except for the fact that I switch one hardener for a TP in certain, easy, missions
|
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
|
Posted - 2009.02.15 18:44:00 -
[150]
My setup.
3x Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Missile Offline Smart bomb for Overheating 3x Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Missile
1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Shield Boost Amp 2x Hardeners (Depends on mission) 1x Cap recharger.
4x Caldari Navy BCU 1x Damage Control II
2x CCC rig.
5x Hobgoblins.
I get 610 DPS with missiles, 707 with drones. Overheat to 808 DPS for lulz.
Thats with 5% ROF and 5% Heavy missile damage implants.
Tank is good enough for Any level 4 I've done so far. Besides, I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down Besides, I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 :: [one page] |