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Jaybird Gallente Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.30 04:54:00 - [1] Last few nights, we've had a few runins with some members of the BoB alliance. Regardless of the outcomes, I thought that is was kinda common respect that if adecent fight occurs, to at least acknowledge so. Seems certain members of BNC and other members of BoB can't find it in them have a little dignity. I'm slightly sadened. I figure here on the forums I'll get some sort of reply from someone in BoB, as they won't do it space. J Send Hate Mails Here...
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.01.30 04:56:00 - [2] Did they smack? ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Corp/Alliance Services
Aaron Static Igneus Auctorita	Posted - 2007.01.30 04:59:00 - [3] yeh gl with that - Igneus Auctorita Video -
Boldyn 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.30 05:01:00 - [4] This has to be a much better way of solving the problem then trying to contact someone from said corp/alliance in game. - "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back"
myggan Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 05:12:00 - [5] rigt under my dear boldyn well to the op how about sending blacklight a mail. and it will be dealt with
Jaybird Gallente Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.30 05:16:00 - [6] Easy enough. Perhaps Blacklight could mail me as last time I attempted to contact him, I never received a reply and that could be the end of it and no one else will need turn this into a flame fest. J Send Hate Mails Here...
CYVOK Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.01.30 05:37:00 - [7] According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK-
Nahual Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.30 05:40:00 - [8] Wait, I'm missing something because it seems to me like you're saying Bad Bob because they didn't say..."GF" in local after a decent fight? If I'm wrong explain more, but otherwise lay off the grog. -----------------------------------------------
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.01.30 05:42:00 - [9] no talk in local is better then any talk at all GIVE ME BACK MY EXCLAMATION MARK PORTRAIT :( :( :( :( :( :(
kublai TunDraGon	Posted - 2007.01.30 05:43:00 - [10] Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- Hypocracy > manners. Just look at how well CYVOK did with it....oh wait...say is that a pink veldspar roid?

jeNK Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.30 05:49:00 - [11] BoB in "smack talk" shocker.
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:00:00 - [12] I think some of the persons replying to this thread need to reread the OP to understand exactly what was stated, his question wasn't about smacking in local. Sig Removed. Inappropriate Content. Please e-mail us with any questions. ([email protected]) -Don't forget a copy of your sig!-ReverendM
jeNK Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:04:00 - [13] Originally by: Dark Matter I think some of the persons replying to this thread need to reread the OP to understand exactly what was stated, his question wasn't about smacking in local. BoB in "up themselves" shocker.
Tovarishch Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:05:00 - [14] Silence and a good fight are far more preferable than disingenuous, meaningless fluff. All life is sacred... until the client says otherwise.
Evelgrivion Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:07:00 - [15] Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- Its all psychological warfare; the less human your enemy is, the more intimidating he is. On another note, welcome back to EVE, CYVOK; I hope your return period isn't as rough as the period in which you took a break. ---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|---\|--- This isn't the signature you're looking for.
Nake Primary Targets	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:07:00 - [16] So make a thread about it. Oh wait...
Fi Anaur The Spartans	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:21:00 - [17] Someone needs a little bit of manlove... FFS...are you trying to get a gf out of any fight you get..? They are here to play and win. They are not after your thoughts about the fights or your wantings for acknolegde that you can fly a ship and shoot some rounds.
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:23:00 - [18] its amazing that people think they deserve respect for simply participating in a fight. Want respect? earn it. Making a thread about how you got your feelings hurt cause someone smacked you certainly wont get you any.
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:23:00 - [19] Originally by: Jaybird Last few nights, we've had a few runins with some members of the BoB alliance. Regardless of the outcomes, I thought that is was kinda common respect that if adecent fight occurs, to at least acknowledge so. Seems certain members of BNC and other members of BoB can't find it in them have a little dignity. I'm slightly sadened. I figure here on the forums I'll get some sort of reply from someone in BoB, as they won't do it space. J What do you expect from a pirate alliance?
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:30:00 - [20] You're going to get replies all right, but not the kind you're looking for. Do you prefer: A. A meaningless "GF" in local, when your enemy doesn't really believe it? B. A meaningfull "GF" in local, when you have done something to earn the respect of your enemies? Personally I'd prefer my enemies tell me GF if they actually think I deserve it, not because it's the done thing.

Productioner Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:34:00 - [21] I find it amazing that so many people have the ineptitude to skew the original text. Pro. - Life is only one step away from death
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:38:00 - [22] There are so many quality responses to this thread.
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:39:00 - [23] Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- I think you are misinterpreting that. Respect is not required in a fight and is not necessary. That isn't the same thing as being against respect. But if you fight someone who is a total embarrassment to the game why not let them know? Why should they get free respect. Why say "GF" if they did not put up a good fight? It seems more honest to smack them afterwards. I don't understand all these backwards ass eve ethetics. I don't consider someone really my friend unless they are willing to tell me the truth. Especially when I'm wrong or do something poorly. If you surround yourself with dishonest people don't let you know when you screw up you end up, well, like you. So **** nice. Tell it like it is.
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:40:00 - [24] Originally by: Ab Initio Personally I'd prefer my enemies tell me GF if they actually think I deserve it, not because it's the done thing. I dunno. When there is an obvious slaughter a sarcastic "GF" in local is always fun too.
Susa Ou	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:41:00 - [25] Originally by: Evelgrivion Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- Its all psychological warfare; the less human your enemy is, the more intimidating he is. On another note, welcome back to EVE, CYVOK; I hope your return period isn't as rough as the period in which you took a break. Actually, Cyvok has a point - your enemy will show no quarter, and neither should you. Total war. And no, the less human your target is, the easier it is to kill them. Turning Japanese into monkies, Vetnamise into rodents, Muslims into sexist tyrants. . .all serve to dehumanize in order to justify their extermination. Fear is respect, and fear is not healthy for moral, add the two together and you have capitulation. We Amarr know these arts well.
Tenaka Kahn Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:46:00 - [26] Edited by: Tenaka Kahn on 30/01/2007 06:43:27 This post has gone gold. The way the fight(s) went makes it 10x funnier to read, keep the quality down and the frequency up!
HC MasiEEE Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:47:00 - [27] ________________________ HC MasiEEE - DICE
Productioner Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:48:00 - [28] May we please only get intellectual replies, please? Oh and this is how I truly feel about the whole issue. Blackguard Brigade alone is a "civilization" that entered and advanced across EVE, and either assimilated or destroyed everything in its path. The people and their communities have more often been destroyed rather then assimilated, the push for assimilation of the survivors has been unrelenting, but still continues. This kind of enterprise is, I submit, like a machine that devours or destroys everything in it's path. Even the people who are destroyed are not left in peace, for this kind of "civilization" returns later to pick over their bones. Indeed, that cultures are easier to deal with after they are dead. Pro, (A Way of Life.Ö) 2007. Yarrr. - Life is only one step away from death
Stitcher Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:50:00 - [29] Edited by: Stitcher on 30/01/2007 06:47:13 Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- I think you are misinterpreting that. Respect is not required in a fight and is not necessary. That isn't the same thing as being against respect. But if you fight someone who is a total embarrassment to the game why not let them know? Why should they get free respect. Why say "GF" if they did not put up a good fight? It seems more honest to smack them afterwards. I don't understand all these backwards ass eve ethetics. I don't consider someone really my friend unless they are willing to tell me the truth. Especially when I'm wrong or do something poorly. If you surround yourself with dishonest people don't let you know when you screw up you end up, well, like you. So **** nice. Tell it like it is. mmm.... I partially agree with you there. You don't "GF" somebody you just annihilated because, well, it wasn't a good fight. But I don't condone smacking somebody in any situation. If they utterly failed, then the chances are that they already know it. Laying the smack down on them in fact detracts from the victory and makes the winners look like bullies. Take defeat with good grace, be dignified in victory, and give your opponent as much respect as he deserves. If he deserves none at all, then let your silence speak for you. I disagree with Cyvok however. Sometimes, victory is just not an option, no matter how hard you fight... but fight nevertheless, and fight hard, because honour and dignity demand it. Sometimes, a defiant and valiant defeat will echo more powerfully in history than the most overwhelming victory - just ask the Spartans of Thermopylae. It is my strongly held belief that victory is without meaning unless it is an honourable victory - but honour demands throwing as much of yourself as you can give into the battle. ***
Yoyort Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.30 06:52:00 - [30] Originally by: Productioner May we please only get intellectual replies, please? Oh and this is how I truly feel about the whole issue. Blackguard Brigade alone is a "civilization" that entered and advanced across EVE, and either assimilated or destroyed everything in its path. The people and their communities have more often been destroyed rather then assimilated, the push for assimilation of the survivors has been unrelenting, but still continues. This kind of enterprise is, I submit, like a machine that devours or destroys everything in it's path. Even the people who are destroyed are not left in peace, for this kind of "civilization" returns later to pick over their bones. Indeed, that cultures are easier to deal with after they are dead. Pro, (A Way of Life.Ö) 2007. Yarrr. Yarrr There be pirates and intellectual comments ahoy, but first is a strong tide of flame bait and tinfoil... Yet again.



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