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TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.30 20:58:00 - [151] Originally by: Ephemeron Many of us play this game mostly because we enjoy making others suffer. Ephemeron! o/ Well said. To the OP - MAKE em say GF ;) Wherever you go... There you are...
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:06:00 - [152] Edited by: DTee on 30/01/2007 21:04:01 Originally by: RabbidFerret Originally by: DTee Edited by: DTee on 30/01/2007 20:35:33 What you mean like Killboard stats? Wealth? Industry? Membership? QUality? I dare you to challenge me that IRON are better on any of those fronts. I would rather not get in to it. Just know that smack doesn't suit you boys. Take D2's example sit back relax and watch the show. Thank you for proving my point. This is why I stopped reading these forums. Smack is wrong, although I may be doing it now. IRON, D2 or the rest of the north should not have to smack because you guys continue to sit in these forums and continue to act like children. Its a game. The rest of EVE hates you for this continued ignorance, except for those corporations who have been suffocated too often to have their own opinions. I apologize to those in your alliance who this does not apply to. This is a game. We play to win. These are forums we post to win. If you dont like it then dont post. Its as simple as that. Some of us may have different goals or criterion for what makes an achievement. If you dont like my view or anyone elses then as you said before dont read these forums. Stop once more. I dont want to sit here and tell IRON what they are worth. your members shouldn't really be coming out here smacking when there is nothing there for them to smack about. I do apologise if I hurt your feelings, and take away the fun of the game for you. Host of The DT show - Thursdays 16:00 - 18:00 . Listen to BoB Radio now!
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:07:00 - [153] Sorry but wtf happened to differentiating the character from the player ? I'm generally not in the least bit interested in being a nice guy to you when you're in the enemy gang that just fought us, as one character to another. I'm generally not in the least bit interested in being an ass to you when I meet you in space somewhere and you could use some advice that I could give you, as one player to another. Get the difference ? Sure, I'm not one of those dusty roleplayers that never falls out of his role or has some sort of interesting bio about being an orphan and all that crap (no offense meant), but you people aren't actually suggesting that what you say ingame reflects the player here right ? And not the character ? Wait a minute, didn't I explain all this about a dozen times during the whole ascn forum flamefest as well ... oh yeah. Tbh, if all you guys do is play this game from the perspective you brgina long as your natural self then I don't really get how you find it any fun after three and a half years. Where's the immersion for you then ? Or do you collect minerals in rl too ? Old blog Originally by: Vriezuh Naz: John is a realist
Vince Draken Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:29:00 - [154] Originally by: RabbidFerret The rest of EVE hates you for this continued ignorance, except for those corporations who have been suffocated too often to have their own opinions. I must have missed the vote that made you the official spokesman for eve. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Preacher97 Caldari Obliteration Unlimited R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.30 21:43:00 - [155] Edited by: Preacher97 on 30/01/2007 21:39:39 TBH, I believe instead of a meaningless GF from the victor, the player on the short end should say "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Logan Williams Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:01:00 - [156] Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- Cyvok, you seem bitter. Want some cheese with that whine?
Dirtball Kemono.	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:34:00 - [157] EVE is not about respect, it's about fear.
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:40:00 - [158] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 30/01/2007 22:37:28 Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- You accused G of being Macrominers, Cheaters and Exploiters. Same with BoB. You lied to your whole alliance all the time and i was wondering why so many ASCN believed the amount of untruths you were telling them. You deserve no respect in this game, cause you dont know what sportsmanship is. -------------------------------- http://www.trollexception.net/bsgd2/sig.jpg Please decrease the file size of your sig to less than 24000 bytes -Cyrano
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.30 22:50:00 - [159] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 30/01/2007 22:37:28 Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- You accused G of being Macrominers, Cheaters and Exploiters. Same with BoB. You lied to your whole alliance all the time and i was wondering why so many ASCN believed the amount of untruths you were telling them. You deserve no respect in this game, cause you dont know what sportsmanship is. I myself was guilty of swallowing the bs cyvok spun while i was in ascn. I think i had a go at you a fair few time's and really, after seeing the lies and propoganda spun against us, i should apologise to you tbh
Productioner Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.30 23:01:00 - [160] Ok, Question: how did this go from a BOB -v- BGBR convo to a IRON bashing? were did we get off topic at, oh thats right on page one. my bad, Bad Pro, Bad Pro, I shall have to punish my self now. OPPS I think I have a typo.. lol.. - Life is only one step away from death

TriggerHippy Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.30 23:16:00 - [161] Ok... IRON > Bob Lite BOB Heavy > IRON IRON aren't scared of BOB The North are united against a "possible" attack by BOB et al. We all like to fight and we all log on to do so EVE fights > Forum fights Lets play....
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.01.30 23:28:00 - [162] Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- Who hijaked his account
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.30 23:59:00 - [163] I hate it when people say GF in local, its stupid pointless and 99% of the time the fight wasn't good anyway, it was just a gank. I flog corp members who talk in local. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Shinoobie E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.31 00:11:00 - [164] Originally by: DTee .... your members shouldn't really be coming out here smacking when there is nothing there for them to smack about. I do apologise if I hurt your feelings, and take away the fun of the game for you. Talk to BoB Lite about that eh?! They do it a lot On all your points about IRON I agree, however, BoB don't like the rattling of their cage on the forums do they! My feeling are not hurt in any way. I love all the well thought out and constructive posts you are all making. It's great! GF Tick Tock, BoB's posts are a load of croc. Elite Scouting
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.31 00:55:00 - [165] Originally by: DTee ...Some of us may have different goals or criterion for what makes an achievement. If you dont like my view or anyone elses then as you said before dont read these forums.... Saved for future reference.
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:00:00 - [166] Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: DTee ...Some of us may have different goals or criterion for what makes an achievement. If you dont like my view or anyone elses then as you said before dont read these forums.... Saved for future reference. Did the sarcasm go wasted on you?. Host of The DT show - Thursdays 16:00 - 18:00 . Listen to BoB Radio now!
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.31 01:37:00 - [167] Oh it was sarcasm. Ok then. :P
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.01.31 02:07:00 - [168] DTee understands Sarcasm? ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
firepup82 Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.31 04:27:00 - [169] LMAO you guys are killing me
SI RedLeg Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.31 04:35:00 - [170] A little respect I try to discover A little something to make me sweeter Oh baby refrain from breaking my heart Im so in love with you Ill be forever blue That you give me no reason Why youre making me work so hard That you give me no That you give me no That you give me no That you give me no Soul, I hear you calling Oh baby please give a little respect to me And if I should falter Would you open your arms out to me We can make love not war And live at peace in our hearts Im so in love with you Ill be forever blue What religion or reason Could drive a man to forsake his lover Dont you tell me no Dont you tell me no Dont you tell me no Dont you tell me no Soul, I hear you calling Oh baby please give a little respect to me Im so in love with you Ill be forever blue That you give me no reason You know youre making me work so hard That you give me no That you give me no That you give me no That you give me no Soul, I hear you calling Oh baby please give a little respect to me Soul, I hear you calling Oh baby please give a little respect to me

SI RedLeg Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.31 04:36:00 - [171] (oo) What you want (oo) Baby, I got (oo) What you need (oo) Do you know I got it? (oo) All I'm askin' (oo) Is for a little respect when you come home (just a little bit) Hey baby (just a little bit) when you get home (just a little bit) mister (just a little bit) I ain't gonna do you wrong while you're gone Ain't gonna do you wrong (oo) 'cause I don't wanna (oo) All I'm askin' (oo) Is for a little respect when you come home (just a little bit) Baby (just a little bit) when you get home (just a little bit) Yeah (just a little bit) I'm about to give you all of my money And all I'm askin' in return, honey Is to give me my profits When you get home (just a, just a, just a, just a) Yeah baby (just a, just a, just a, just a) When you get home (just a little bit) Yeah (just a little bit) [instrumental break] Ooo, your kisses (oo) Sweeter than honey (oo) And guess what? (oo) So is my money (oo) All I want you to do (oo) for me Is give it to me when you get home (re, re, re ,re) Yeah baby (re, re, re ,re) Whip it to me (respect, just a little bit) When you get home, now (just a little bit) R-E-S-P-E-C-T Find out what it means to me R-E-S-P-E-C-T Take care, TCB Oh (sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me) A little respect (sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me) Whoa, babe (just a little bit) A little respect (just a little bit) I get tired (just a little bit) Keep on tryin' (just a little bit) You're runnin' out of foolin' (just a little bit) And I ain't lyin' (just a little bit) (re, re, re, re) 'spect When you come home (re, re, re ,re) Or you might walk in (respect, just a little bit) And find out I'm gone (just a little bit) I got to have (just a little bit) A little respect (just a little bit)
Ruff Ceyx Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.31 04:39:00 - [172] Put this thread to an end already, Redleg's singing on TS and i cant handle it... -------------------------------------------
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.01.31 14:49:00 - [173] Originally by: Ruff Ceyx Put this thread to an end already, Redleg's singing on TS and i cant handle it... Hands Redleg another beer and Ruff some ear pluggs. Sing on redleg...sing on..
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:34:00 - [174] Wow, 6 pages about a non-existent gf, I guess I can say what I think from it. Most fights in Eve don't deserve a GF, ganking or get ganked doesn't necessarily show fighting skills. Let's take an example of a recent kill (ain't playing much at the moment, so I can remember every fight I take part in) Was camping a gate in a sabre, buddy on the other side in a jaguar, warns me of incoming enyo, I bubble the gate, enyo jumps, get bubbled, webbed and dies to a jaguar and a sabre. He tried to fight back, couldn't escape it, died and got podded ... Did the enyo pilot show exceptional bravery? no Did he act poorly during his fight? no Did we show exceptional skill? no Did we hide behind numbers ? no, we were waiting for bigger preys than a single AF, galaxy's a harsh place, I don't take 10 steps and turn around before engaging. He only made the mistake of jumping alone in an hostile system in a relatively slow ship. Doesn't deserve smacking, doesn't deserve praise either. He fought and died with honor, but this was not a "good fight" in the sense that it wasn't thrilling for any of us, the fight was mostly decided before it started. Nothing innovative on our side either, he uncloaked, tried to escape, got tackled and died ... I didn't send any GF, would have been it utter hypocrisy. Does it mean that I have no respect for the pilot, or even worse, for the player behind? Now a few minutes later, I got a mail from this player, don't have it here, but it said something like "nicely done, enjoy the loot, shame on me for being careless" ... My answer was something like "better luck next time" and I mean it. This mail exchange was strictly OOC between two players. the mistake about respect comes from the fact that people refuse to acknowledge a "neutral" level of respect, to which any pilot is entitled. A respectful silence after a fight is a good example of this respect. I remember a few pilots that earned respect by fighting me ... A young Goon running away from my rupture in his thorax who, after a few jumps away, decides that he'd rather die fighting than running, says in local "ok, let's do this" and engages. He lost his ship (mostly due to huge sp difference, I'll blatantly admit that I flew overconfidently) but earned a lot of respect. An enyo pilot (another one) who instead of running, decides to go toe to toe versus 2 ceptors and a kestrel (rascal nearly got my inty) ... I also respect a couple of pilots who got my ship, including pilots like Heikki, solocamping in a blasterthron and not afraid to engage against bad odds (odds weren't so bad, cost me a tempest) My point in this somewhat pompous post, was that fight deserving a GF are fights I remember. silence does not mean disrespect ... Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts
TitusFlamininus Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:42:00 - [175] Edited by: TitusFlamininus on 31/01/2007 15:42:09 Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- ++ And this also explicitly involves "tactics" such as Teamspeak spying, maximising Log-off/Log-on fleet maneuvers as well as DOS attacks against Alliance forums and Teamspeak servers. Just accept that your enemies will use these tactics against you. Even if they don't really need it (I am looking at you BoB).
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 15:55:00 - [176] Originally by: TitusFlamininus ++ And this also explicitly involves "tactics" such as Teamspeak spying, maximising Log-off/Log-on fleet maneuvers as well as DOS attacks against Alliance forums and Teamspeak servers. Just accept that your enemies will use these tactics against you. Even if they don't really need it (I am looking at you BoB). On the other hand, it's hard to respect people that constantly wallow in self pity and shout haxx abuze cheatzors constantly ... Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 16:05:00 - [177] Originally by: TitusFlamininus Edited by: TitusFlamininus on 31/01/2007 15:42:09 Originally by: CYVOK According to Sir Molle, Respect has no place in EvE. (Unless it is directed at him) Respect, Dignity, Morality & ethics do not matter because none of them will help win a battle. Only winning matters, how that goal is achieved does not. Its about Gamesmanship, Sportsmanship is dead. Bottom line, forget about everything. Fight as hard as you can for as long as you can and do whatever it takes to win. I assure you that your enemies will do exactly this. -CYVOK- ++ And this also explicitly involves "tactics" such as Teamspeak spying, maximising Log-off/Log-on fleet maneuvers as well as DOS attacks against Alliance forums and Teamspeak servers. Just accept that your enemies will use these tactics against you. Even if they don't really need it (I am looking at you BoB). I was going to put you straight on all front's but if you haven't learnt by now, why should i help you.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.01.31 16:23:00 - [178] Sure... we imagined the BoB voices on TS... Right... SJ. CLS Director =-
TitusFlamininus Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.31 16:55:00 - [179] Originally by: fire 59 I was going to put you straight on all front's but if you haven't learnt by now, why should i help you. My post was just a warning to anyone being naive and expecting a "clean" fight (what ever that may be). If you get attacked by BoB, use any tools available. Because (some) BoB definitely will. Don't get me wrong, 90% of BoB players are fantastic guys/gals who will give good fights. It's just the 10% of BoB who want to "win" EVE that are bothering me.
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 17:08:00 - [180] Originally by: TitusFlamininus Originally by: fire 59 I was going to put you straight on all front's but if you haven't learnt by now, why should i help you. My post was just a warning to anyone being naive and expecting a "clean" fight (what ever that may be). If you get attacked by BoB, use any tools available. Because (some) BoB definitely will. Don't get me wrong, 90% of BoB players are fantastic guys/gals who will give good fights. It's just the 10% of BoB who want to "win" EVE that are bothering me. Well, Just to clarify one thing, I don't care about being a "good" or a "bad" Bob, and I consider the (currently controversial) practice of spying totally acceptable, as long as its stays within game mechanics (ie. gaining access to a TS/forum ressource via use of an in-game character infiltrated in the target corp/alliance) That's my view and where I draw the line. Hacking ressources such had TS and forums has no place in Eve, I'm still trying to decide whether I consider counterspying via IP tracking a valid solution, although I admit that on this one, I'm more concerned about the place where such IPs where gathered. Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts



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