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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.02.13 16:38:05 -
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Avvy wrote:pajedas wrote:Lan Wang wrote:then dont do it? Did you even read what you quoted? I said that I was done, having used 3 extractors and re-injecting them. Look at the overall impact (long term) on the Eve community. You can go troll somewhere else as you obviously have nothing to add here. The sp that is lost wasn't required by the characters that trained them, therefore lost sp doesn't matter.
exactly! he only has an issue because he wanted to switch his own skills around with no penalty, longterm effect - great, people can now get rid of skills they dont need to people who will use them, next up name changes for aurum!
"Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus
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Angel Cartel || Serpentis
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4696
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Posted - 2016.02.13 17:57:10 -
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Avvy wrote:pajedas wrote:Lan Wang wrote:then dont do it? Did you even read what you quoted? I said that I was done, having used 3 extractors and re-injecting them. Look at the overall impact (long term) on the Eve community. You can go troll somewhere else as you obviously have nothing to add here. The sp that is lost wasn't required by the characters that trained them, therefore lost sp doesn't matter.
Good point.
Player takes out "useless" SP, and gets a fraction back to use in non-useless skills.
Should be considered a win. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2016.02.13 18:14:36 -
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pajedas wrote:Lan Wang wrote:then dont do it? Did you even read what you quoted? I said that I was done, having used 3 extractors and re-injecting them. Look at the overall impact (long term) on the Eve community. You can go troll somewhere else as you obviously have nothing to add here.
It might be good.
1. New players don't have to wait to get into the "fun stuff". Granted they won't have the experience and will likely die in more pricey ships, but....hey, I didn't make them inject SP and go out and buy a ship they could barely afford put a **** fit on it and jump into Tama. At that point it is, HTFU, welcome to EVE.
2. Players with "useless" SP can now remove them and re-inject and get some of them back to use wherever they like, or they can sell it for ISK, or give it to an alt for use with much lower or no penalty, or give it to a corp mate who is new.
3. More money for CCP, which means they can keep providing the game.
4. One argument I have seen about the SP Problem in the game is that if we were to construct a distribution of SP, we'd find that most of it is with the longer term players. To the extent that this maybe discouraging to newer players (how can I at 2 million SP ever beat a guy with 120 million SP?) then "flattening out" that distribution will reduce this effect. Personally, I'm not completely sold on this argument, but some people make it.
Now, on the other hand markets are tricky things to design. And even though there does not appear to be much down side now...the same thing has been thought about other markets people have created where actual real money was much more involved. Example, the California electricity market in 2000-2001. Complete debacle there and billions and billions of dollars were involved.
So this could all blow up in our collective faces. I know this last one is a bit vague and nebulous, but going back to the CA electricity market...the consequences of that debacle is still on-going, believe it or not. The state's investor owned utilities are looking at the possibility of a death spiral. Residential customers are massively over-investing in solar technology and hmmm...where else did we recently realize we way over invested in something....oh yeah, the housing market.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4696
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Posted - 2016.02.13 18:15:30 -
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Malcanis wrote:Every skillpoint that's lost makes mine worth just that little bit more.
I'm especially enjoying the anticipation of the wailing that will happen when CCP make some long neglected skill really useful
You are a bad, bad man....so naturally, +1 to you sir.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
17479
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Posted - 2016.02.13 18:23:29 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Malcanis wrote:Every skillpoint that's lost makes mine worth just that little bit more.
I'm especially enjoying the anticipation of the wailing that will happen when CCP make some long neglected skill really useful You are a bad, bad man....so naturally, +1 to you sir.
X up everyone who's removed Defender Missiles
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.02.13 19:02:22 -
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Malcanis wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Malcanis wrote:Every skillpoint that's lost makes mine worth just that little bit more.
I'm especially enjoying the anticipation of the wailing that will happen when CCP make some long neglected skill really useful You are a bad, bad man....so naturally, +1 to you sir. X up everyone who's removed Defender Missiles People have SP in that?
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
187
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Posted - 2016.02.13 19:07:25 -
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Avvy wrote:pajedas wrote:SurrenderMonkey wrote:The big picture is that is that lossless on-demand skill point remapping would be bad for the game. How could I have forgotten that the forum trolls know everything? I don't think many are trolling you, it's just that you are so sure that the big picture is how you see it, you just won't except any other version.
Actually it seems more like, at least to me, that the OP is annoyed because the explanation doesn't make any technological sense; yes there are people out there who liked eve for that reason. The lore technology reason is that the company producing them wants to slowly drain SP from capsuleers for their own nefarious ends so they built secret SP compartments into the extractors so they can recover the spent injectors and crack open the secret compartments.
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4697
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Posted - 2016.02.13 19:56:45 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Malcanis wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Malcanis wrote:Every skillpoint that's lost makes mine worth just that little bit more.
I'm especially enjoying the anticipation of the wailing that will happen when CCP make some long neglected skill really useful You are a bad, bad man....so naturally, +1 to you sir. X up everyone who's removed Defender Missiles People have SP in that?
Yep, but I believe my character came that way. When I started the starting SP was closer to 800,000 SP and you picked a career. I picked military for this character and since I was Gallente I started with a fair amount of SP in drones...and I think 2-3 levels in defender missiles.
Correction: lvl 1 in defender missiles. So not worth an extractor in and of itself.
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pajedas
Warlord of Mars
143
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Posted - 2016.02.13 20:47:30 -
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I surrender.
Close thread.
Dev Blog: Exploring The Character Bazaar & Skill Trading
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Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise Upholders
622
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Posted - 2016.02.14 03:00:49 -
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pajedas wrote:You disagree with me so I agree with you and you disagree with that.
That's trolling.
I believe my OP to be true and accurate.
CCP's gain is our loss.
One more time, what exactly did you get out of creating this thread to troll? I eagerly await your response.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
290
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Posted - 2016.02.14 04:10:07 -
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pajedas wrote: I surrender.
Close thread.
NO.
let the people know how dumb you are.
Just Add Water
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