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Chishan
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Originally by: Chishan I see no need for civil war if Midular takes her responsibilities to the Republic seriously. The only reason the people of the Republic would have to fear civil war is if Midular attempts to retain office against the will of the people. If the people demand that she steps aside, it is her duty to obey them.
If the tribes do that, yes.
However, Ushra'Khan is not "the people" any more than Gradient is "the people".
I see nothing here again but "lead the country our way, or else!" And you see you see no reason for civil war?
Continue to twist my words to your own meaning and I will call for Hamat'Kuri between us. I cannont speak plainer or more peacefully than I have, yet you still try to paint my words with blood. No where have I ever stated that Ushra'Khan or Masuat'aa Matari is "the people." The Republic is the only one calling "our way or civil war."
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:23:00 -
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My apologies, I have not meant to twist anything.
Could you point me to where the Republic calls for "our way or civil war"?
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Chishan
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon My apologies, I have not meant to twist anything.
Could you point me to where the Republic calls for "our way or civil war"?
By sending Death Squads after a Matari leader. By executing him before our very eyes. By telling us to "watch and learn" as the Republic butchered Muritor. Never forget that we drew no blood that day, even though we considered Muritor under our protection.
We aren't the aggressors in this situation, no matter how you try to turn Maggot's symbolic gesture, Hakera's emotional pain and call for change, Thrace's evenhandedness, or Muritor's sacrifice.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.05 18:11:00 -
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Karishal Muritor was a traitor and a thief to the Fleet. He was offered to chance to come home for a trial and refused it. The Fleet had full authority to bring him down and kill him.
I would like to point out to you that the Fleet did not fire on Ushra'Khan when they took down the traitor, and neither have they ever in any other instance pursued you in the Republic space or out of it. Very obviously it is not their way or civil war, there; if it was, you would have Fleet ships on siege of Unity and firing on Ushra'Khan ships that enter the Republic space.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.05 18:11:00 -
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Karishal Muritor was a traitor and a thief to the Fleet. He was offered to chance to come home for a trial and refused it. The Fleet had full authority to bring him down and kill him.
I would like to point out to you that the Fleet did not fire on Ushra'Khan when they took down the traitor, and neither have they ever in any other instance pursued you in the Republic space or out of it. Very obviously it is not their way or civil war, there; if it was, you would have Fleet ships on siege of Unity and firing on Ushra'Khan ships that enter the Republic space.
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Chishan
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.05 18:35:00 -
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Maybe you see the Republic as the sole Matari people. My view seems to be wider. When I speak of Matari, I speak of all of us. There are far more Matari outside the Republic than within.
Muritor joined the Fleet to free the Matari. Midular has tied the Fleets hands and left those enslaved to die in bondage, and furthermore has allowed border raids to go unchecked. Who is the true traitor here?
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Chishan
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.05 18:35:00 -
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Maybe you see the Republic as the sole Matari people. My view seems to be wider. When I speak of Matari, I speak of all of us. There are far more Matari outside the Republic than within.
Muritor joined the Fleet to free the Matari. Midular has tied the Fleets hands and left those enslaved to die in bondage, and furthermore has allowed border raids to go unchecked. Who is the true traitor here?
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.05 19:03:00 -
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We have been over this already.
Muritor did not leave the Republic like most separatists, resigning and renouncing his ties. He deserted his Fleet, broke his orders, and stole the Fleet's property. There is a difference.
This is the last time I repeat this. Get your facts straight before you start using big words like "traitor" and "the people". -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now. |
Hakera
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.05 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Karishal Muritor was a traitor and a thief to the Fleet. He was offered to chance to come home for a trial and refused it. The Fleet had full authority to bring him down and kill him.
You will burn witch. All you do is talk, cloud peoples minds with snaketongues in acts of desperation to protect your profits bought in the hollow peace you work hard to protect. Midular is pulling your strings well but she cannot hide behind her lackeys.
I warned you once, that your mission from Midular to dishonour the Defiants and the propaganda spewing from every one of your orifices would not be tolerated. They had the courage to act, all you have to courage to do is sit at your galnet screen spewing rubbish all day long about your glorious republic whilst counting the gold in your vaults.
You should of known your place. You have neither earned a seat at the table or permission to speak. Yet here you are preaching your Gallente democracy and worship of your queen. You are as much to blame as the Amarrians for our missing children. The only difference between the Amarr and you is they took them and you dont care about them. Just your precious peace and your profits.
Thankfully for the Matari, you are just a windbag who only the dimwitted and those paid to support you may listen to. You talk about action long after every Matari has picked up their sword and headed into the night. When the children stealers come, you form a committee to debate a peaceful resolution. You have forgotten the greatest laws of our people, all your precious Republic knows is to forsake the many for the few, to cut your losses and bury your heads in the sand and beg for the scraps from the empires table.
Damn you to the abyss witch.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.05 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera You will burn witch. --- You should of known your place. You have neither earned a seat at the table or permission to speak.
And they say I sound like an Amarr, these days?
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Masim
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:04:00 -
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This is a personal statement and has nothing to do with my Republic, corporation or alliance.
I don't usually fall for personal insults, but this is enough.
Talking about poilitics and getting heated up is perfectly ok. Actively working against the best of the Republic, not as much so, but can still be understood. Personal attacks against someone who disagrees with you and happens to be my wife *are* not ok.
I will not give you a second warning, Hakera
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Hakera
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Masim Personal attacks against someone who disagrees with you and happens to be my wife *are* not ok.
Love is blind it is said. Gives you strength but also weakness. It has nothing to do with disagreeing with me, and if you were not blind, you would see that.
Sleep well in your cosy tower.
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Hakera
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Masim Personal attacks against someone who disagrees with you and happens to be my wife *are* not ok.
Love is blind it is said. Gives you strength but also weakness. It has nothing to do with disagreeing with me, and if you were not blind, you would see that.
Sleep well in your cosy tower.
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.05 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth I am sad because Ushra'Khan uses his death to push forward their own agenda. To have them call out for new elections is laughable. They have never submitted themselves to Republic law before. Any election result that did not favor them, they would simply cast aside, claiming the fight for freedom comes from a higher authority.
We have never submitted ourselves to Amarr law either but we implore you in our own way to end your ways of slavery. What is your point?
Originally by: Merdaneth I am sad because the Minmatar are slowly regressing back towards aggressive tribes they once were, more concerned with pointless struggles and barbaric forms of justice than true advancement.
Amarrians idea of advancing other people involve orbital bombardmens, cultural genocide and forced servitude. Pretty violent traits you have there youself. Whats your point?
Originally by: Merdaneth I am sad because this is partially our fault. We should have been stronger, not so trusting. We should have prevented the rebellion. We let our children out into the world before they were ready, and now many who ran away from home have fallen in with a bad crowd and turned to a life of crime and depravity.
Yes this is partially your fault, but a little further back than you can see. You should have never invaded our people in the first place. No invasion, no rebellion, no people left behind, no inadiquate and complacant leaders, no fleet officers absconding with fleet equipment because of the injustice of the republic, no hit squads sent to murder him... anyway you get the point. The rebellion was inevitable anyway so you might as well have stayed at home anyway. So what is your point? Ohh yeah, it is all the fault of the Amarr.. we knew that already, what took you so long to figure it out?
Originally by: Merdaneth I am sad because the Ushra'Khan now consider themselves judges, jury and executioners. Their jurisdiction extending beyond the Amarr, but now including anyone they don't agree with. Do you even know those you call Ļour peopleĻ anymore? Don't you have any respect left for authority and the rule of law?
When missued? Kind of like the whole Amarr religion and philosophy is missused to enslave anything that does not conform with what you agree with? Midular missuses her authority over and over and nothing changes so, no I have no respect for that authority now. I should think that would be plainly obvious reading all of this so... whats your point? ------
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Wasabee Upp
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Posted - 2007.02.06 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: Wasabee Upp on 06/02/2007 00:49:20 Edited by: Wasabee Upp on 06/02/2007 00:47:35 ((damn alts))
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Nachshon
Caldari Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.06 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera *snip*
Disgusting.
Hakera, you have just forfeited your credibility.
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Lord Malis
Minmatar Dark Order Of Matar
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Posted - 2007.02.06 01:36:00 -
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Yes, Yes. Do not let the words of the republic lackey's sway you brothers. Only through YOU the Ushra'khan can there be change. Only those who have been forged by fire have any right to lead the rabble. Do not wait for elections that will never come, if you desire change you must make it yourself. You have waited to long already for a weak and shameful republic to aid it people. OUT OF CHOAS WILL COME ORDER |
Hakera
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.06 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nachshon
you have just forfeited your credibility.
I would rather lose credibility from a bunch of profit whoring miners and their harpy queen who only bark and never bite than see them sully the names of great men and women who have done so much for the Matari.
Do not talk to me of credibility when your harpy sits there and launches her campaign to discredit true heroes who made a difference. It is your harpy queen and her lackeys who instantly jump blindly to her support who disgust me.
You are the only ones who take stock in credibility, you worry so much about your appearances, about your little propaganda machines, you work hard to bury the truth, to bend it into something it is not. I am not afraid, I walk the dangerous path, where the greatest assassins come from behind with knives. With one hand they preach peace and with the other they plunge the knife into your back.
Dance to the organ grinders song. It suits you.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.06 01:45:00 -
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"If you would stand before me and call this state of affairs in which we are held right and true, then I am sure that it is better for me and my men to fight and die without any right than to live in such a lie."
Karishal Muritor said that the day he officially left the service of the Republic. He and all who followed him were made outlaws that day by the Republic they fought so long for. They fought, they won glorious victories against the Amarr. Karishal now lies dead at the hands of a Republic death squad.
Is this state of affairs right and true? Judging by the reactions of those loyal to the Republic I feel that the consensus believes it to be. My heart tells me the silent voices feel otherwise.
What of the student population? Too young to have had the chance to vote for Midular. What do the members of the Pator Tech School, the Republic University or even the Republic Military School have to say? What of the countless mining corporations and shipyard operators around Rens and Abudban? Do you think this state of affairs is right and true?
Do you wish to sit in silence and let your leaders do the dirty work of the Amarr? Call for elections, call for equal representation of the tribes, call now for an end to this madness.
17 Days.
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.06 03:10:00 -
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Let's be quite clear about the actions of the Defiants and of their leader, Karishal Muritor.
Towards the end of last year, we were asked to provide protection for a Defiant search team that was looking for Amarran "breeding facilities". What we found turned the stomachs of even the most hardened among us. CONCORD conveniently provided the words to describe these segments of hell, so that I don't have to.
Quote: This breeding facility produces Minmatar children ready to assume their place as servants to the Amarr. Once they reach puberty, the boys are sent away to take their place amongst the lower classes in Amarr society.
The girls, on the other hand, are left behind. Their place is here, stretched out on cold metal tables, silent and tense. The facility wears out its brood, but that's all right; more are created all the time.
And every now and then, a caravan will arrive, carrying men with cold eyes and clammy hands, ready and willing to help with the production.
This is what your precious Midular is willing to sacrifice in the name of peace. This is what these slavers are laughing about, when they commend you for your reasonableness. This will never stop until we make it stop by force.
This is what one man gave first his career -- and then his life -- to put an end to. I am privileged to have flown with him. There can be no compromise.
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Theron Gyrow
Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.06 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace "If you would stand before me and call this state of affairs in which we are held right and true, then I am sure that it is better for me and my men to fight and die without any right than to live in such a lie."
If you find someone calling this state "right and true" and meaning it, feel free to scorn that person. I, personally, call this state "getting ready".
Telemicus, perhaps you'll answer this question I posed in another thread: according to your analysis, does the Republic have a good chance of victory in an offensive war against the Amarr Empire, if led by someone you consider competent?
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace 17 Days.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.06 06:59:00 -
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Originally by: Theron Gyrow Telemicus, perhaps you'll answer this question I posed in another thread: according to your analysis, does the Republic have a good chance of victory in an offensive war against the Amarr Empire, if led by someone you consider competent?
Yes, of course. Especially when they are so fractured. The Chamberlin is no substitute for an Emperor. We have all seen the tensions within the Empire rise to open bloodshed between Holders.
This is one of the reasons they are so keen to foster civil war in the Republic by putting pressure on weak leaders like Midular. They seek to keep us distracted at least until they are ready to launch the invasion.
You have seen what Karishal managed with a small group of oficers and the support of rag tag freedom fighters. Imagine what a new Republic could do. A new Republic prepared to fight slavers. A new Republic in which all Matari, freedom fighters and Thukker alike can find a home. A truly united Republic fleet.
The Amar will not wait until you are ready. The time has come, to rise or fall.
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Theron Gyrow
Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.06 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Theron Gyrow on 06/02/2007 11:10:40
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Originally by: Theron Gyrow Telemicus, perhaps you'll answer this question I posed in another thread: according to your analysis, does the Republic have a good chance of victory in an offensive war against the Amarr Empire, if led by someone you consider competent?
Yes, of course. Especially when they are so fractured. The Chamberlin is no substitute for an Emperor. We have all seen the tensions within the Empire rise to open bloodshed between Holders.
Yes, I agree that Republic does have a good chance against fractured Amarr.
Now then, what would unify the factions within Empire as nothing else? That's right, an invasion by the Republic.
The Empire is not going to pull itself together, it's on the route to dissolution. After this long a wait, the next emperor is almost certainly going to be a figurehead, being pulled this way and that by the political plays of the houses. It's not keeping up with the technological advances very well either: largest population by far, smallest number of pod pilots - and a very small number of those toe the official line.
When the dissolution gets a bit more advanced, trust the Empire to try to keep the edifice up by giving the people some external problem, that is, a war. However, _that_ future war, declared by Empire against the Republic, is winnable by the Republic, if we prepare for it properly.
First, Federation would support the Republic, which it would probably not do in an offensive war.
Second, a number of holders would keep on playing the game of houses, seeking personal advantage.
Third, the Republic would unify against the threat. No way you could get the same response to an offensive war.
It seems to me that Amarr are the only party whose interests would be served by Republic openly attacking the Empire.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.06 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Theron Gyrow
The Empire is not going to pull itself together, it's on the route to dissolution. After this long a wait, the next emperor is almost certainly going to be a figurehead
Or vastly more likely one powerful and fanatical Holder will make a grab for power then occupy his competitors by calling for a new crusade of Reclamation.
You paint a pretty picture but if the Republic follows that path your people will blissfully unaware of the end until the sky is burned away again.
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
... you do have reviewed your security procedures after the Hamish affair?
My my. What an interesting subject to bring up. Of what interest are our security procedures to the Namtz'aar k'in? Why do you choose to raise the matter of the Hamish affair at this juncture?
In league with him are you? working for his backers? Oh how low has the Republic sunk.
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Gangus
Minmatar Matari BackBone
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Posted - 2007.02.06 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Masim Personal attacks against someone who disagrees with you and happens to be my wife *are* not ok.
this is a total divergence from this thread, but am i to understand from this, that it's no longer permitted to disagree with someone because they happen to be married? Thank The Good Lord that i'm not married.... i'd have to agree with everything she said...
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Theron Gyrow
Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.06 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
The Empire is not going to pull itself together, it's on the route to dissolution. After this long a wait, the next emperor is almost certainly going to be a figurehead
Or vastly more likely one powerful and fanatical Holder will make a grab for power then occupy his competitors by calling for a new crusade of Reclamation.
You paint a pretty picture but if the Republic follows that path your people will blissfully unaware of the end until the sky is burned away again.
If someone could do that, that person would have done it already.
Oh well, for the sake of the argument, let's say that one pops up. Unified Empire with zero internal dissent attacking the Republic. I also have this map to Jove treasure planet I need to cash in, but I'll mail you about that separately.
Since you did not comment on the three points I laid out in the previous post, let's consider first and third to hold in this case as well - second is handled in the "zero internal dissent" above. To recap:
First, Federation would support the Republic, which it would probably not do in an offensive war.
(Second, a number of holders would keep on playing the game of houses, seeking personal advantage.)
Third, the Republic would unify against the threat. No way you could get the same response to an offensive war.
Given that, even that case is better than offensive war against Amarr now, no matter how competent the replaced admirality would be.
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
... you do have reviewed your security procedures after the Hamish affair?
My my. What an interesting subject to bring up. Of what interest are our security procedures to the Namtz'aar k'in? Why do you choose to raise the matter of the Hamish affair at this juncture?
In league with him are you? working for his backers? Oh how low has the Republic sunk.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.07 09:39:00 -
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Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 07/02/2007 09:36:26 16 Days remain.
I see no call for elections. I see no condemnation of the murder of one our greatest freedom fighters. Is it any wonder so many of those we free choose to be migrants in the Federation. Things have changed in the Republic since I have been away. Either that or distance allows me to see more clearly.
Are there none of you left in the Republic with the heart to make it a better place? to re-ignite the beacon of hope it once was? Or have you all left her to dwindle under the leadership of those who will take up arms to prevent our people being freed?
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
... you do have reviewed your security procedures after the Hamish affair?
My my. What an interesting subject to bring up. Of what interest are our security procedures to the Namtz'aar k'in? Why do you choose to raise the matter of the Hamish affair at this juncture?
In league with him are you? working for his backers? Oh how low has the Republic sunk.
Weak, Thrace, weak.
Weak? if I sought to bring you harm you would about it through a declaration of war and an assault wing. Not some half arsed, thinly veiled threat of spies and corp theft.
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Masim
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.07 10:36:00 -
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Thrace, distance has only clouded your vision.
If you would actually come to Matar and talk to the people, you'd know the majority supports the current leaders. You'd see things are improving daily. You'd see how many refugees and former slaves come in every day. The same is true on other settled planets in the Republic too.
It is very easy to shout from the outside and miss the truth.
As to your question, yes, there are countless pilots and citizens who work every day to make the Republic a beacon of hope. Not just for everyone in the Republic, but also for our people still in chains. We work daily to bring them all home to a strong Republic, we work to give them a home to be freed to.
There will be a time for open war with the Empire, but that time is not now. And for certain, the way to achieve that is not treason and stealing Fleet ships. I work everyday for the good of our people, yes all of them, and I do not want to see that work taken away by people who just can not see the big picture.
You used to be a good man, Thrace. In many ways you still are. Don't let all the work go to waste for short term gain.
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Theron Gyrow
Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.07 13:12:00 -
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Since you do not comment on my viewpoints on the non-desirability of an offensive war against the Empire, can I take it that you agree with them?
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 07/02/2007 09:36:26
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
Originally by: Theron Gyrow
... you do have reviewed your security procedures after the Hamish affair?
My my. What an interesting subject to bring up. Of what interest are our security procedures to the Namtz'aar k'in? Why do you choose to raise the matter of the Hamish affair at this juncture?
In league with him are you? working for his backers? Oh how low has the Republic sunk.
Weak, Thrace, weak.
Weak? if I sought to bring you harm you would about it through a declaration of war and an assault wing. Not some half arsed, thinly veiled threat of spies and corp theft.
Can it really be that the Hamish incident has been buried by Ushra'Khan so deeply that even their council members do not know the truth? Or are you mixing him up with someone else?
The Hamish I was speaking about was the CEO and founder of Tribal Trust of Pator, founding member of both People's Republic of Minmatar and Ushra'Khan, trusted council member of Ushra'Khan, ardent detractor of Republic, and an Amarr agent. You'll excuse me if seeing Ushra'Khan striving for a war that is very much in the Empire's interests somehow reminds me of him. -- NMTZ forum |
Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.08 01:07:00 -
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15 Days remain. If not a single voice in the Republic wishes to see elections then we can only assume you support Midular and the actions of the Republic against Matari freedom fighters.
I know some of you now consider leaving the Republic at this time. I urge you to reconsider. While you are still within the Republic you can call for elections and if they are granted have your voices heard. If after that time you are still disillusioned then leave. Of course the choice is yours and yours alone. Those who will stand against the night in the name of freedom are always welcome in our halls.
Originally by: Theron Gyrow Since you do not comment on my viewpoints on the non-desirability of an offensive war against the Empire, can I take it that you agree with them?
No, you cannot. I have presented my analysis here and previously in more detail. You analysis is directly opposed to mine. I do not agree with you, quite the opposite. I am suprised you need it spelled out.
Wait obediently for the slavers to come for you if you wish. If the Republic follows your analysis they doom themselves and everyone within their domain to slavery. But since everyone in the Republic appears to support this strategem I suppose they have brought it upon themselves.
Originally by: Theron Gyrow ....Can it really be that the Hamish incident has been buried by Ushra'Khan so deeply that even their council members do not know the truth? Or are you mixing him up with someone else?
The Hamish I was speaking about was the CEO and founder of Tribal Trust of Pator, founding member of both People's Republic of Minmatar and Ushra'Khan, trusted council member of Ushra'Khan, ardent detractor of Republic, and an Amarr agent. You'll excuse me if seeing Ushra'Khan striving for a war that is very much in the Empire's interests somehow reminds me of him.
Hahahaha. Oh, is that all you know. I am privy to a great many things boy, clearly more than you.
So that blundering was not a threat but a shambolic attempt to accuse us of being guided by an Amarr agent. We are here because the Republic has started killing freedom fighters. This is a reaction. If anything I would say the Republic has been infiltrated at it's highest levels. Some of the Defiants even mentioned Fleet personal acting strange "as if their minds were no longer their own." I just took it to be that they are following distasteful orders that they do not believe in but perhaps it is more than that.
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