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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 10:29:00 -
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Today is a dark day for freedom. Today a great warrior and leader has died. Karishal Muritor, former Republic Captain, Freedom Fighter & leader of The Defiants has been slain. The hero of the Battle of Tears was not killed in combat or at the hands of the slavers. He was assassinated by one of his former fleet officers Kanth Filmir at a secret meeting under a banner of truce. To the best of our knowledge Karishal had no clone or for reasons unknown it failed to activate.
Captain Filmir, I forgive you. As you said, you were following orders. You are just a soldier. You have a heart and a mind of your own but they belong to another. Once upon a time I might have admired your loyalty and discipline. A soldier must follow his commander, you are just a weapon, a tool in his hands. If your were a warrior then you would have been free to judge for yourself whether tricking a man like Karishal into your ambush was right or honourable. If it were not for Karishal's direct order to our forces not to fire upon our "brothers" know that you would have joined him in death. That is twice I know of that the old man saved your life, how you repay your debt to him now he is dead by your hand is a question only you can answer.
The Republic fears a coming war with the Amarr. We have heard the arguments time and again. "They are too strong, we are too weak, we must protect what we have, sacrifices must be made for the greater good".
If a wolf steals into your camp in the dead of night to take your children one by one what do you do? The Republic would say let the wolf take a child tonight as long as it spares the others. After all, we live in the heart of the camp, it will not take our children first and we must protect them. But, say those living on the edge of the camp, our children our precious to us. We will not let this wolf pick them off night after night, we will go out to the wilds and slay this wolf.
Those in the heart of the camp are fearful, but you might anger the wolves and may more will come they say, we cannot allow this, if you leave do not come back. So those on the edge of the camp leave the fireside as exiles to go into the darkness to slay the wolf. They find many caves with many young wolves growing ready for the hunt. They slay the biggest and most dangerous of the pack and in the morning a lone warrior returns to the camp with the head of the wolf and a warning of what they have found. Those from the heart of the camp are again fearful, we must appease the wolves they say so they slay the warrior where he stands. The wolves of course still grow, still hunt and although the edge of the camp grows smaller there are always some ready to be sacrificed to save those in the heart of the camp. At least for tonight.
All the words have been said. Only a fool cannot see that this war began with the reclaiming and has never ended. I will not stand by while the Amarr raid our colonies and take us piece by piece. I will not be ruled by fear to the point I will not take up arms against the slavers. No more talk.
To the Republic Parliament. To the one who gave the order to kill a hero of our people in cold blood to appease the slavers. Do you have the courage to stand before us here and explain this act? Do you have the courage to let your name be known as the coward who ordered this assassination? Or do you fear it will cost you precious votes? ...
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 10:29:00 -
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... To the citizens of the Republic. Are these the leaders you want? Is this how you want to be represented? They kill their own to save their own necks. They seek to please the Amarr so that they will be taken last. They turn a blind eye to the slaver raids on the border daily and they do it in your name. If this is truly what you wish for our people then I say you are no better than the Ammatar but I pray to the ancestors that this is not so. You believe in democracy? you believe in the representation of the tribes? Then call for an election immediately! Take to the streets, fill the skies over Matar with your ships, petition your elders for a motion of no confidence in Midular. Let us see the manner in which our brothers wish to be represented and let us see it now. You have three weeks to convince us that Matari blood has not become thin in the homeland.
The time has come for strong leaders, for warriors. The age of politicians and their assassins must come to an end before it kills the very spirit of our people. Those of you ready to fight these slavers know where to find us. Those of you who would rather sacrifice your own kith and kin than fight are the enemies of freedom and will never know peace. Show us now that the Republic is not as weak and as afraid as it's leaders.
It is time for action, it is time to bring our people home, it is time to rise.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 10:45:00 -
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It looks as though the Republic is prepared to make sacrifices in the name of peace after all.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
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Lowanaera
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.02.02 10:49:00 -
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I am impressed, perhaps the Republic is not wholly without justice and order after all. Predictably, Ushra'Khan cannot see the true meaning of this event and continues down its path to destruction and damnation.
Some of your Matari brethren have seen the light of truth, even if they still operate under the banner of the corrupt Republic. It is not too late for any of you. Go to the Mandate or Empire, surrender yourself, and learn the purification of enlightenment through Him.
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Ugleb
Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:06:00 -
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Ugleb appears haggard, eyes red and bleary, words slurred.
Brother Thrace speaks wiser words than I can manage at this time, I see only treachery and murder. I see only a dead hero of Matar, hero of the people. This is an atrocity, such a great man killed under a flag of truce by his own... I can't accept it.
And the Amarr speak of sacrifice, of justice. This was no justice.
Perhaps it is fortunate that I was not there, had I been there with Admiral Filmir only one of us would have left Auga alive. I would have torn the muderers apart with my bare hands for what they did.
A hero of Matar is fallen, I will remember him and honour his name as I do Hnolku. Their loss lessens us.
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Shakor on 02/02/2007 11:07:08 We see the real truth all to well Khanid. Not the twisted truth that the Republic or your ilk would serve us. The Republic is indeed willing to make sacrifices... this is the whole problem. They are making these all the time to stay in the good books of the Amarr. I ask the Republic what the Amarr have sacrificed that is as permenant as this? Or as lasting as the ban on displaying the Khumaak at official gatherings with Amarr dignitaries?
One sacrifice after another to a people that take our own for their deamon God's will and we have asked what in returnn? Midular, you are a fool and a coward of the highest order. You do not deserve your mark or the place it has granted you in society as our so called leader. If you had any honour left in you, you would stand down for having signed off on that order along with Admiral Filmir and accept the shame that is on your heads for your fleet assassinating one of our own, however justified you feel it might be. ------
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 02/02/2007 11:13:21 Before answering Thrace's questions as the citizen of the Republic they are aimed for, I would like to ask for any further information, proof, recording, comm logs, whatever anyone has that will help to assess the situation.
Before I have a full picture, all I say is I have come to know Admiral Filmir as a noble man, and I believe whataever his involvement in this, he is acting out of loyalty to his nation, with a better understanding of the situation I have. The Republic must come first, always, and sometimes harsh measures are called for. The path Muritor was taking was a dark one and could have lead to the destruction of all. If this story is true, and the measures taken were necessary given the information he and his superiors had, the only blame I can put on him was doing it in front of those who would betray him by going public with what should have been kept in the shadows.
If you feel you cannot publically submit evidence that you have, bring it to myself in private. I promise you complete confidence as to what my sources are in case you contact me privately. I will, if I feel it necessary after viewing the information, publish my opinion and my understanding about the events, but I will not publish where that understanding came from.
Those who know me know I do not betray my word.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace
If this is truly what you wish for our people then I say you are no better than the Ammatar but I pray to the ancestors that this is not so.
You can't imply that any of the ill-begotten 'tribes' ever were near matching our superiority. The crime of 23216 collectively hangs like a millstone round all their necks. Guilt is bringing them closer to the light. Such is justice.
I pray for any possible extension of the eternal damnation our slain foe is condemned to.
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:24:00 -
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My respects to the deceased. ----------------------------------------------
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Ugleb
Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon The path Muritor was taking was a dark one and could have lead to the destruction of all. If this story is true, and the measures taken were necessary given the information he and his superiors had, the only blame I can put on him was doing it in front of those who would betray him by going public with what should have been kept in the shadows.
Ugleb appears again, dishevelled and head held in tembling hands.
You would have concealed the truth? A patriot is murdered by his own and you would hide it? This man gave his life in service to his people and was killed for, for what? Political expediency? No, the people will hear, they will all hear of this.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:37:00 -
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Ugleb, I do not take any joy in these happenings, if it turns out they are true. Muritor was my hero too, though I disagreed strongly with his latest actions.
But if a situation is such that you need to resort to assasination - and make no mistake, if it was necessary, for the safety and freedom of my Republic I would do that, or take any other action necessary - you need to follow-through and do it properly. The more extreme an action, the more carefully you need to think before taking it, and the more careful you need to be it does not cause more harm than good.
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Masim
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:49:00 -
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Muritor ceased being a patriot the day he acted against the Republic. He is a hero for what he did before that day. But he is also a traitor, both of the Republic and the people it presents. He showed us all that even heroes can fall and become traitors.
Now, where is the proof on Muritor's death or any Republic involvement in it?
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Nekumi
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:56:00 -
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Witness the folly of turning into the very thing your people fought and died fighting against.
The day the Minmatar formed the Republic was the day they made the same mistakes as the Caldari when they left the Federation.
You are not free as long as the few control the actions of the many.
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Karn Mithralia
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:04:00 -
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Karn throws a glass across the room narrowly missing Marcias head, it explodes against a bulkhead
Fools!
Do you doubt Thraces words?
The Captain was killed in cold blood, defences offline, his body left to float in space.
If you can't trust the word of brother, if the endless scheming of the politicians has loosened your grasp on the meaning of honor, then seek evidence in private. This is not something for the drooling masses to pick apart.
Karishal is dead, murdered in cold blood.
A new day dawns and a tempest brews in the east.
Karn slaps the transmit key and swears under his breath as he cuts comms -----------------------------------------
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:06:00 -
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Good riddance.
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Patamon
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:09:00 -
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I do not know the details of this incident so I am not sure how much I can comment. I can say that if the person in question was violating Republic law and was warned to stop and did not then no matter his "good" deads a punishment was needed. We have to many that are out for blood against the Amarr without any real direction to their anger. We need to turn our energies inward for now, build out people up and provide our people security so the Amarr may never return to enslave us again.
Our Republic is not perfect but you cannot fix it by being outside of it yelling at windmills. You need to work within it and make it what you want it to be.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 02/02/2007 12:20:33 Karn, if you imply we should accept the words of any one person on a matter as grave as this without asking for proof or details, you are indeed a fool.
I did not say I doubt Thrace's word. If you must insist knowing, personally, right now, if I had to take a bet I would put my money on his account of the incident to be true, if possibly incomplete. That has nothing to do with anything, though - I have been wrong about Telemicus Thrace before. In a matter like this, we need the hard evidence reviewed by all political factions. Had it been me bringing such facts to public, I would submit the same.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:41:00 -
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Government is the art of compromise. This would appear to be an art the politicians of the Republic have mastered indeed. A sad day for all those who fight in liberty's name.
The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2007.02.02 13:06:00 -
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Wise words Telemicus, wise words indeed.
Me and my brothers and sisters morn over the loss of Karishal Muritor. However I to do not blaim the people that executed their orders.
I have seen the logs from a connection i have in Auga. It indeed started friendly and it was obvious Kanth Filmir did not want to take this action. He tried as hard as possible to avoid this outcome.
I also do not blaim the Republic or it leaders. It is obvious for me the real reason are the amarr that keeps holding every minmatar responsible for the actions of only a few.
Karishal Muritor made it clear what we can do as we put aside our differences and fight as a single tribe. Some amarr have become frightened by this and use political pressure to end any threats to them.
I would have joined him and fought under his banner if the time and call came. Unfortunately I am tied to my current Corperation and Alliance as they looked after me in my time of need and that too is something that must be respected and repaid in full.
If all minmatar, including capsuleers, came together and fougth as one, we still face horrible options. If we fight against the amarr our brothers and sisters in their empire will pay the price.
It is a vicious circle and some amarr will make sure they can keep us under control by using these horrible methods.
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Shi'ra Kull
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Posted - 2007.02.02 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Shi''ra Kull on 02/02/2007 13:12:18
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Padaxes
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 13:49:00 -
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I watched in Horror as Admiral Filmir approached Karishal extending the hand of friendship, using Muritors deep trust of him to get close before sinking in the knife.
Filmir may once have been an honorable man but he owed his life to the Defiant!
We speak the truth Elsebeth, dont doubt it for a second. The rot eating away at the Republic has been exposed.
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 13:57:00 -
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Finally, Midular reveals her true, treacherous face. I ask the Republic Fleet to think hard about what they might be told to do next. If this woman can order you to strike down a former comrade under a flag of truce, what else will she require of you?
This is a person without honor or shame. She seeks only to increase her personal power and wealth, and will strike down any whom she sees as a threat to that.
Soon, people will say that the "Ray of Matar" is a laser.
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Tart Kovsky
Khumatari Holdings Administration
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Telemicus Thrace To the best of our knowledge Karishal had no clone or for reasons unknown it failed to activate.
Unity Station management asked the Captain several times to move his clone to 9UY4-H, but he demurred, saying that the people to whom his clone were currently entrusted were of unimpeachable integrity.
Another instance of misplaced trust, and a warning to capsuleers that the States may have more power over your future than you might think.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:03:00 -
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The rot eating the Republic was revealed when Muritor turned traitor, and took others with him.
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Forty Three
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:05:00 -
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*Forty Three's face appears in the comlink, tear streaming down from his glasses. His voice is shaking, not from insecurity, but from rage, and he can barely control his movements*
I can't believe it... simply can't believe it... I have feared the day where our own people would succumb to such atrocities... Karishal Muritor... he was not killed, he did not die in battle... he was murdered... MURDERED!!! he stood there, with his defenses down, his modules inactive, while his 'friend' MURDERED HIM IN COLD BLOOD!!!
*Forty Three stops to regain control, wipes his cheeks with his sleeve*
Midular... you make me want to throw up... and the republicans... they have... the GUILE to call Admiral Muritor a traitor?? A TRAITOR?!?!?! THEM who MURDERED in cold blood the single biggest hope there was for the freedom of the tribes?! You have no right to call anyone a traitor, you hypocritical, stinking sons of *****es... I demand REVENGE!!! I demand ACTION!!! BROTHERS, SISTERS, WE MUST RISE... YOU HAVE SEEN WHAT THE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT OF THE DECAYING REPUBLIC IS AIMING TOWARDS... OUR PEOPLE WILL BE TAKEN ONE BY ONE, UNTIL NONE REMAIN BUT THE HYPOCRITICAL BASTARDS WHO WOULD SELL THEIR BROTHERS TO DEATH AND TORTURE ONLY TO SAVE THEIR OWN SKINS!!!
*Forty Three takes a break again, now not only crying, but sweating profusely*
Muritor, may you rest in peace... You always have and always will stay in my hearts and the hearts of all the people you worked to free... I salute you, great Defiant... I salute you.......
*Forty Three angrily closes the comlink, now with a continuous stream of tears coming down from his glasses... He does not bother to hide them*
UNITY!!!
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 02/02/2007 14:49:13 (Speculation deleted till I have the facts.) -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now. |
Nekumi
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon The rot eating the Republic was revealed when Muritor turned traitor, and took others with him.
The rot was there long before it was revealed Elsebeth. How long will you and your organisation turn a blind eye before you wake up and see what you are actually doing. This is not the first assasination and it certainly won't be the last. Maybe you should try listening to people like Muritor while they're still alive, instead of dealing with the reverbations of their words when they die. You are worse than the assassins because you prop up their misdeeds out of sheer ignorant loyalty.
You must stick to your conviction, but be ready to abandon your assumptions.
This is a sad day, and not just because of the death of one freedom fighter.
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Thomas Maleficus
Caldari Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:59:00 -
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He is indeed dead, there is no entry for him anymore in any databases. Muritor is dead, I saw the body myself which I respectfully collected along with his effects from the wreckage. Rest assured it has been and continues to be guarded with utmost respect, honour and dignity.
Pirates stole my signature.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.02 15:01:00 -
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It is a sad day indeed.
On a happier one I might laugh at the idea of Jericho Fraction being worried about people killing other people - isn't it in your doctrine to allow exactly the right to do that for everyone? You speak against governments, but what difference is there in you banding together to kill whomever you call enemy, and in me giving my support to my organizations - my clan, my tribe, my nation - out of my own free will, and supporting them in their fights?
If I was an Amarr, or otherwise forced or coerced to my support to my Republic, now then I would understand your concern about morality, but where I am defending the freedom of our clans and tribes to govern themselves independently without the oppression by the Empire, I find Jericho Fraction opposing to that misguided at best. JF was not, last I checked, about peace, safety, and morality for all. You kill people to achieve freedoms, too. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now. |
Ituralde
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.02.02 15:14:00 -
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A sad day when a valiant man falls to such underhanded means, when a great fighter succumbs to treachery.
It is up to us now to do a great man honor by respecting his memory. Once again, nations show they cannot be trusted. Even those originally born to fight tyranny. The republic is shows itself again to be nothing more than a shell, supported by the lies of its proponents, living on nothing but protectionism and self-interest rather than any care for its people.
The cluster has no need for a republic that carefully licks the edge of Imperial boots and appeases evil. Tell your republic masters to try killing the enemy rather that an ally hunting a common foe, Elsebeth Rhiannon.
This is not killing people for freedom. This is killing to silence the voice that speaks for it. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
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