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Leonardo Bonacci
Podlins R Us Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2016.06.01 19:32:54 -
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Indeed, ditching DirectX and instead of it using OpenGL or Vulkan would make it much better. |
tearshed
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.02 14:35:06 -
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Hi CCP can you please respond to this
Kommoddo wrote:what about steam it launches with the old launcher?
Steam is very finnicky when it comes to MMOs that update themselves with their own launcher (EVE, TERA) and asking steam to download files....basically you download steams old files and have to update the game again through the launcher. Huge waste of time and bandwidth. |
Tiranius Avetus
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
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Posted - 2016.06.06 10:35:54 -
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Anyone here understand how many years it will take to move 13 years of development to a new API?
Also, CCP officially supports 2 systems: Win and Mac. While we already seen Vulkan demos on Win, i have real doubts that Apple will support it, as they now have their own Metal API. |
Tim Helmert
Section31
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Posted - 2016.06.07 11:41:57 -
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good news! |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2016.06.07 12:11:49 -
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so if we still play on vista or xp and soon game stops running can we modify our system registry to chet this and still play eve on old OS or there is no other way than upgrading system? not all people are rich eoungh to buy new OS or new machine for the OS change just to play eve. this is discriminating |
Cakahr
Status Unknown. Manifesto.
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Posted - 2016.06.07 12:30:56 -
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I use the old launcher for both my steam and out of steam accounts....on tranquility. So that 4 month notification has turned into less than 30 days.
I used the beta launcher a few times; but the last time it mangled up my overview settings. (last week)
So where is the forum posts / FAQ on how to use the new launcher with my steam account?
Is there a FAQ on how to setup the new launcher with links so it will go the the correct server and use the specific account?
And is there a way to prevent sharing of settings bleed thru; one account is set for specific type of tasks, overlays from impacting the other?
I have installs for each account, and one for the test server to prevent bleed thru of settings or bugs from causing more fun than necessary.
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Mr Zeph
Only Fools and Horses Twelve Monkeys.
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Posted - 2016.06.07 12:59:55 -
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Ok so I have to use the new launcher.
Last time I looked at installing it it didn't seem as if it was going to port my settings.
I have 6 characters across 2 accounts with one Eve install many symlinks and at least two desktop shortcuts per char. This is so I can have multiple setups for each char depending on what am I doing. (3/2/1 screen(s) all windows in Eve setup for different purposes depending on shortcut used to start eve etc.
So will the new launcher port all these settings now? If not can someone point me to an Eli5 guide on moving to the new launcher retaining all my setups?
Many thanks,
MZ
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Kabaos
Fulgur lumene
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Posted - 2016.06.07 13:22:22 -
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Did not pass a couple of days as the ccp warned the players about in the future will refuse from DX9 and Vista. As it turns out, the future begins on 30 June. "All for the players community" |
Kabaos
Fulgur lumene
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Posted - 2016.06.07 13:28:02 -
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I wonder whether it is possible to influence CCP this venture or "truck" do not care. How much should vote for or against. Or decisions are made without an appeal. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.07 15:04:15 -
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Axhind wrote:Any chance you guys can switch over to vulkan? Would be very nice not to be tied down to windows (especially with recent MS ambitions to become a NSA partner). At some time in the maybe-not-so-distant-but-still-a-fair-bit-away future, then DirectX 11, OpenGL and Metal, will start to show their age. APIs such as Vulkan and DirectX 12 will then take over.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Juggalo Stazz
Go'ram Pirates
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Posted - 2016.06.07 15:07:56 -
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Anke Eyrou wrote:So if I cancel my accounts because I dont want to upgrade my OS will I get a refund on them as I will no longer be able to play Eve?
I always get a laugh out of people that pull stuff like this. Always pulling the sympathy/victim card. Maybe if people would read the EULA, there would be less issues with these types of updates.
D. Software Updates
CCP may from time to time update or otherwise modify the Software electronically. You hereby grant CCP permission to: (i) extract hardware system profile data from your computer; (ii) extract information from your computer's file directories pertaining to the Game and your ability to access the System; (iii) download to your computer content and Game files and any data related to the operation of the Game. The foregoing applies to any computer from which you log into the System using your Account.
E. New Releases of the Software
You are not entitled to receive any new releases of the Software, or any expansion packs, updates, upgrades or similar products under the EULA, but CCP may, in its sole discretion, offer any or all of the foregoing to you. CCP may update, upgrade or otherwise enhance the Software at any time, in its sole discretion, without obligation to you. CCP shall not be responsible in any way for your inability to access the System or play EVE, and you shall not be entitled to receive a refund of any prepaid fees or any other form of compensation.
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.07 15:07:57 -
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Elenahina wrote:So quick question. How can I know if I'm using the old launcher or the new one? I'm already on win 7 so switching is fine but I do see the news links so I assume I'm on the new one. If I am on the new one then I'm good to go. It works fine for me. Is the login box on the far-left (old) or somewhere in the middle (new/current)?
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.07 15:12:07 -
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Mykale Kwijybow wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:Resinball wrote:IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong. Not everyone wants to put up with that ****. UI ****, system **** and it's pretty much the biggest privacy nightmare on this planet. I'll stick with 7 (used exclusively for gaming and without all these "critical" telemetry / anti-privacy updates) until EVE stops supporting it. And when that happens I'll either find a decent alternative that I can get along with (Wine isn't one... I won't cripple GodsOS with that **** and won't put up with the security nightmare) or stop playing EVE. I couldn't agree more. If CCP discontinues support for Windows 7, I will stop playing EVE. I am already considering going PS4 instead of buying a new PC, as I completely disagree with the Windows 10 ideology. We will at some point in the future stop supporting Windows 7. Perhaps distant future, but we are not supporting it forever.
By comparison then Microsoft's extended support for Windows XP ended in April 8 2014 and we are ending Windows XP support in June 2016. Microsoft's extended support for Windows 7 ends in January 2020 so we *possibly might* end Windows 7 support in March 2022. But I'm not making commitments whatsoever on an exact date (or year).
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.07 15:12:19 -
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Damn i'm going to have to upgrade my potato, don't I? |
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2016.06.07 15:12:30 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Resinball wrote:IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong. Not everyone wants to put up with that ****. UI ****, system **** and it's pretty much the biggest privacy nightmare on this planet. I'll stick with 7 (used exclusively for gaming and without all these "critical" telemetry / anti-privacy updates) until EVE stops supporting it. And when that happens I'll either find a decent alternative that I can get along with (Wine isn't one... I won't cripple GodsOS with that **** and won't put up with the security nightmare) or stop playing EVE.
*uses the internet then demands privacy
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.07 15:16:40 -
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Kabaos wrote:I wonder whether it is possible to influence CCP this venture or "truck" do not care. How much should vote for or against. Or decisions are made without an appeal. I'm not sure what your question is, but we have a timeline on changes we want to make to our infrastructure and the old launcher will stop working once those changes are made. This is why we posted this notice well in advance of starting that work, which will be ongoing over the summer. In early fall/autumn the work will be complete.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Ted LustBear
Chikungunya Fever
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Posted - 2016.06.07 16:19:57 -
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Well my ability to play Eve ends on June 30th, guess I'll be winning Eve! Thx CCP |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2016.06.07 16:21:05 -
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windows vista support ended not long ago at all so why you discontinue supporting vista at all ? theres one vista package thats supported to 2017 afaik .
WILL game still run on windows vista at all or it will give just message "sorry you are running outdated and obsolete system please upgrade to higher to play this game" or we will be allowed to keep going? what will be done exacly |
Horiz Rin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.06.07 16:32:49 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:
I will let customer support comment on if that breaks any rules, I will however say that Vista is a bit different than XP. That is to say that when we drop our old launcher, we know it will not work on XP but it may run on Vista. We will not be putting any measures in place to specifically stop Vista from accessing the game. However Vista will be unsupported so any issues encountered will not be acted upon by our development teams.
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Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
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Posted - 2016.06.07 16:54:17 -
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Can you give us a list of what exactly you do that won't work on windows XP any more or is it just the new launcher you're trying to force on people that will read "winXP" and go "nope" ?
If you decide to talk about dropping support for an old operating system, why don't you go the extra mile and give us an idea of how well the other systems are going to fare?
How long will you be supporting Windows Vista and 7 ? So far I'm not the least bit convinced to upgrade to anything past 7. In fact, I'm more likely to change to Linux if Vulkan runs as smooth as planned.
What are the things you have to do in order to keep compatibility with Vista / 7 / 8 and 10 ? Where do they differ, how much effort is there on your end currently? What is the percentage of people using Windows Vista and 7 playing Eve compared to 8 and 10? Will you provide an additional demographic when a new Windows OS be released to see how much has changed from there?
I remember when you phased out windows 2000 support. The game still worked after you officially discontinued it, but made the point hat support cannot help you to get it working. Back then there was no launcher to annoy us, so now you tie it to the launcher.
There is one workaround for the windows XP users (and anyone who hates launchers with a passion) that maybe might still work even after the 30th of june, so that will be one point of curiosity to satisfy to see if it works. |
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Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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Posted - 2016.06.07 17:10:25 -
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what kind of workaround
Drazz Caylen wrote:Can you give us a list of what exactly you do that won't work on windows XP any more or is it just the new launcher you're trying to force on people that will read "winXP" and go "nope" ?
If you decide to talk about dropping support for an old operating system, why don't you go the extra mile and give us an idea of how well the other systems are going to fare?
How long will you be supporting Windows Vista and 7 ? So far I'm not the least bit convinced to upgrade to anything past 7. In fact, I'm more likely to change to Linux if Vulkan runs as smooth as planned.
What are the things you have to do in order to keep compatibility with Vista / 7 / 8 and 10 ? Where do they differ, how much effort is there on your end currently? What is the percentage of people using Windows Vista and 7 playing Eve compared to 8 and 10? Will you provide an additional demographic when a new Windows OS be released to see how much has changed from there?
I remember when you phased out windows 2000 support. The game still worked after you officially discontinued it, but made the point hat support cannot help you to get it working. Back then there was no launcher to annoy us, so now you tie it to the launcher.
There is one workaround for the windows XP users (and anyone who hates launchers with a passion) that maybe might still work even after the 30th of june, so that will be one point of curiosity to satisfy to see if it works.
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Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
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Posted - 2016.06.07 18:16:07 -
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Amak Boma wrote:what kind of workaround I know someone who hasn't seen a launcher in ages and only boots directly from the bin folder. If there is a patch, that person uses the repair function to "patch", which is outside of any launcher. |
Azahar Ortenegro
Astromechanica Maxima Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2016.06.07 19:15:30 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:On June 30th 2016 we will discontinue support for the old EVE launcher
As was said in another thread, if the new launcher doesn't allow management of several installs of the game separately by then, it means that I'm gone. You've been doing a lot of bad UI/user experience decisions over the last two years, the last three (ads in station, current behavior of the new launcher and forcing the broken new camera on players) being too stupid to put up with. |
Aya Audeles
C20H25N3O Co.
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Posted - 2016.06.07 19:39:05 -
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You guys should focus on Vulcan API instead DX11. Will be much better for all (Linux and Win) users.
Pardon my English.
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V Solutio
Vinland Solutions
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Posted - 2016.06.07 19:59:32 -
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I understand dropping support for XP, it had to happen sooner or later, but forcing this new launcher is ridiculous. The fact that the new launcher isn't stable has been covered, but it needs to be pointed out that its interface is terrible and looks like it was designed by a first year web designer that has never even heard of desktop interface design.
The use of floating panels is disgusting and may be common place on the web, but it has no place on desktop applications. The amount of wasted real estate is jaw dropping and should make any experienced designer ashamed. Regardless of the layout option chosen, the login panel covers up one or more of the other panels or lists of information, which is the kind of rookie mistake I shouldn't expect from an experienced company like CCP, though I sadly do expect such things these days.
And I guess I will mention that I brought up the new launcher while writing this, so I could verify what I am saying, and the thing crashed twice in this short amount of time.
In summary, the new launcher is subpar software and most certainly needs more than a month of work before it is any where near ready to be made mandatory. This is the quality work one might expect from a fly by night mobile app company, but not from a multiyear, desktop oriented company like CCP. |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2085
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Posted - 2016.06.07 21:29:29 -
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If you are running Windows XP, that Microsoft stopped offering security patches for it on April 8, 2014 means that you're taking on a substantial security risk. The only way to mitigate this risk is to upgrade to a currently-supported version of Windows or migrate to another operating system that is being currently maintained, such as one of a number of available Linux distributions. I strongly recommend that you consider all possible options for doing so.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3090
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Posted - 2016.06.07 21:47:56 -
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V Solutio wrote:I understand dropping support for XP, it had to happen sooner or later, but forcing this new launcher is ridiculous. The fact that the new launcher isn't stable has been covered, but it needs to be pointed out that its interface is terrible and looks like it was designed by a first year web designer that has never even heard of desktop interface design.
The use of floating panels is disgusting and may be common place on the web, but it has no place on desktop applications. The amount of wasted real estate is jaw dropping and should make any experienced designer ashamed. Regardless of the layout option chosen, the login panel covers up one or more of the other panels or lists of information, which is the kind of rookie mistake I shouldn't expect from an experienced company like CCP, though I sadly do expect such things these days.
And I guess I will mention that I brought up the new launcher while writing this, so I could verify what I am saying, and the thing crashed twice in this short amount of time.
In summary, the new launcher is subpar software and most certainly needs more than a month of work before it is any where near ready to be made mandatory. This is the quality work one might expect from a fly by night mobile app company, but not from a multiyear, desktop oriented company like CCP.
what do you expect from a game launcher? all the options are easily visible and the interface is pretty easy to navigate, the floating panel in the centre is pretty much a call to action which immediately targets your eyes so you can log in quickly.
never had an issue with the launcher crashing so its probably a fault in your own system.
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V Solutio
Vinland Solutions
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Posted - 2016.06.07 22:49:49 -
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Lan Wang wrote:what do you expect from a game launcher? all the options are easily visible and the interface is pretty easy to navigate, the floating panel in the centre is pretty much a call to action which immediately targets your eyes so you can log in quickly.
never had an issue with the launcher crashing so its probably a fault in your own system.
Take a look at the clean, organized layout of the old launcher and you will see what I expect.
As for the crashes, if I was the only one experiencing them, then I would agree with you, but reading through this thread, I'm not.
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.07 22:59:31 -
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If you're having trouble with the current launcher, I recommend posting in the EVE Launcher forum.
The relevant developers are active about following up on reported issues.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2016.06.07 23:42:35 -
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3.2% of the playerbase uses vista or XP still?? That was me a month or two ago.
Omar Alharazaad > Pretty much any time you blow something up in space it's bound to annoy someone or something.
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