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Lentulus Sulla
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.12 19:36:52 -
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CCP Tellus wrote:Marcius Decimus wrote:Do I use that link or is there one i am missing? Use that link. That is the link to the new launcher. The new launcher should take care of migrating your settings over.
Thank you for taking the time for a prompt answer. Much appreciated. |
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
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Posted - 2016.08.20 01:57:17 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Windows XP: Until we make changes on the backend system that the old Launcher relies on then you will be able to use and launch the game. When we make those changes, later this summer or early fall. CCP Falcon wrote:On June 30th 2016 we will discontinue support for the old EVE launcher which will also bring our Windows XP and Vista support to an end. Players still using Windows XP will be unable to update and launch the EVE client from the new EVE Launcher
This is where things get funny;
Yesterday I hooked up my old Windows XP machine because I had to test something (and pulled some files I forgot to pull) and thought to myself "oh why the hell not" and patched Eve online in the meantime ...using the old launcher No, I am not trolling. I do get a nice big announcement smack dab in the middle of the screen that tells me things won't work, but I was still able to successfully patch, launch and play the game without any issues.
How is that possible? And the question remains now, what have you NOT changed? Because it can't be the reason that I'm still able to play and patch eve online on the old computer only because I have a DX11 compatible graphics card in there, if you said you're shutting the launcher down on a software level through changes on the backend system.
Mind you, this is not a complaint at all. It is sheer curiosity of inquisitive nature. Because by all means and by everything you said, this should NOT be possible. But it happened. This beckons the questions what the actual changes were. I don't think it's as simple as having a certain VCredist or a .NET framework installed, but damned if I know, sometimes it's the simplest of things. |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
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Posted - 2016.08.20 11:15:17 -
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Drazz Caylen wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Windows XP: Until we make changes on the backend system that the old Launcher relies on then you will be able to use and launch the game. When we make those changes, later this summer or early fall. CCP Falcon wrote:On June 30th 2016 we will discontinue support for the old EVE launcher which will also bring our Windows XP and Vista support to an end. Players still using Windows XP will be unable to update and launch the EVE client from the new EVE Launcher This is where things get funny; Yesterday I hooked up my old Windows XP machine because I had to test something (and pulled some files I forgot to pull) and thought to myself "oh why the hell not" and patched Eve online in the meantime ...using the old launcherNo, I am not trolling. I do get a nice big announcement smack dab in the middle of the screen that tells me things won't work, but I was still able to successfully patch, launch and play the game without any issues. How is that possible? And the question remains now, what have you NOT changed? Because it can't be the reason that I'm still able to play and patch eve online on the old computer only because I have a DX11 compatible graphics card in there, if you said you're shutting the launcher down on a software level through changes on the backend system. Mind you, this is not a complaint at all. It is sheer curiosity of inquisitive nature. Because by all means and by everything you said, this should NOT be possible. But it happened. This beckons the questions what the actual changes were. I don't think it's as simple as having a certain VCredist or a .NET framework installed, but damned if I know, sometimes it's the simplest of things. They just aren't going to test if any possible changes break the old launcher. It may still work for the time being, but if it stops working, the devs won't care and won't fix it. They're not specifically disabling it.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.21 16:27:40 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Drazz Caylen wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Windows XP: Until we make changes on the backend system that the old Launcher relies on then you will be able to use and launch the game. When we make those changes, later this summer or early fall. CCP Falcon wrote:On June 30th 2016 we will discontinue support for the old EVE launcher which will also bring our Windows XP and Vista support to an end. Players still using Windows XP will be unable to update and launch the EVE client from the new EVE Launcher This is where things get funny; Yesterday I hooked up my old Windows XP machine because I had to test something (and pulled some files I forgot to pull) and thought to myself "oh why the hell not" and patched Eve online in the meantime ...using the old launcherNo, I am not trolling. I do get a nice big announcement smack dab in the middle of the screen that tells me things won't work, but I was still able to successfully patch, launch and play the game without any issues. How is that possible? And the question remains now, what have you NOT changed? Because it can't be the reason that I'm still able to play and patch eve online on the old computer only because I have a DX11 compatible graphics card in there, if you said you're shutting the launcher down on a software level through changes on the backend system. Mind you, this is not a complaint at all. It is sheer curiosity of inquisitive nature. Because by all means and by everything you said, this should NOT be possible. But it happened. This beckons the questions what the actual changes were. I don't think it's as simple as having a certain VCredist or a .NET framework installed, but damned if I know, sometimes it's the simplest of things. They just aren't going to test if any possible changes break the old launcher. It may still work for the time being, but if it stops working, the devs won't care and won't fix it. They're not specifically disabling it. This ^.
Work is pending for the fall where support will explicitly break. Those changes will be deployed without further notification.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Solecist Project
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Posted - 2016.08.21 16:38:48 -
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Asking for a friend ...
Will we finally get new explosions this year? Like, maybe even combined with the new shipwrecks? Then it would at least make sense why we've been waiting so long ....
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
Typos. the curse of mobility.
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Naseera Arshad
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.08.21 17:40:27 -
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Nakaara Adahsa wrote:If the process of upgrading the launcher is complicated enough that it requires a video, that means you've already failed in your responsibilities as software developers to CCP's customers. Sadly, this is the experience of EVE players: we see many areas of excellence in the game and its implementation that are too often marred by bouts of gross incompetence by the developers. This launcher upgrade is one of the latter.
It doesn't require a video at all. |
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
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Posted - 2016.08.23 16:03:59 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Work is pending for the fall where support will explicitly break. Those changes will be deployed without further notification. CCP Falcon said the game will be unplayable for XP and Vista post 30th of June, or didn't he? Wasn't that an inaccurate statement then? I mean I would have known 2 people who would have been able to spend more than a month in the game if they'd knew that.
If I can make a careful suggestion, then please mention as a permanent "last message" that windows XP and Vista playability has died once you make that change to the backend system. Because on the old launcher, you still see the most up-to-date news. I don't think another news entry written in 2 minutes is going to hurt your time tremendously. Because it still could happen that you have to postpone something in your schedule, and it will still work longer as expected, who knows? |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
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Posted - 2016.08.23 16:30:29 -
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ssshhh! Don't provoke them! Let us have our XP while it lasts, as the Mac client still performs a tad sluggish and overheats my rig. After a few hours, or when (trying to) dualbox, my machine flips a gasket. Can dualbox no prob under 32bit XP ...
I'm still in denial.
It still runs - for now.
XP FOREVERRRR! |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.08.23 16:39:36 -
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Drazz Caylen wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Work is pending for the fall where support will explicitly break. Those changes will be deployed without further notification. CCP Falcon said the game will be unplayable for XP and Vista post 30th of June, or didn't he? Wasn't that an inaccurate statement then? I mean I would have known 2 people who would have been able to spend more than a month in the game if they'd knew that. He was in no position to promise any support beyond 30th of June, the work that would explicitly break support was committed to but the date was not set exactly. From his viewpoint this was the most prudent messaging.
Drazz Caylen wrote:If I can make a careful suggestion, then please mention as a permanent "last message" that windows XP and Vista playability has died once you make that change to the backend system. Because on the old launcher, you still see the most up-to-date news. I don't think another news entry written in 2 minutes is going to hurt your time tremendously. Because it still could happen that you have to postpone something in your schedule, and it will still work longer as expected, who knows? We have already communicated end of Windows XP support and the Old Launcher will stop to function at some point in the near future without further communication. Windows Vista will continue to work with the New Launcher for some time, possibly even years but we are not testing on Windows Vista anymore so I won't be able to tell you right before it breaks.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
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Posted - 2016.08.23 17:10:35 -
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CCP Tellus wrote:Can we finally upgrade from Visual Studio 2010?
Lol, really? Sounds like my workplace |
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Makdo
Ghost Net Industrialists Sock Puppet Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.25 02:48:24 -
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Disregard any attempt to make sense of this... |
Drazz Caylen
Team-Pyro Industries
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Posted - 2016.08.27 11:54:44 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:*snip* Ah well, you know what they say, it was worth trying :)
But seriously though, thank you for keeping Windows XP as long as you did /) It was much appreciated. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.11.03 13:57:52 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Work is pending for the fall where support will explicitly break. Those changes will be deployed without further notification. As some may have noticed those changes were deployed on 2 Nov. The old launcher now doesn't display a login box anymore and various other features in it have been disabled. A couple of things will continue to work until Jan when we sunset the old launcher's backend.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Malcorath Sacerdos
Rogue Meddlers
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Posted - 2016.11.03 16:31:12 -
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Resinball wrote:thank ******* god... the chip manufacturers are even on board with this, which is even more reason to force an upgrade for an old dead systems with huge security holes. NO MORE SUB 10!!! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.
Thank you CCP For ending legacy device support.
is win 10 bugfree and ready to use then ?
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helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
615
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Posted - 2016.11.03 22:00:59 -
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@CCP Explorer
I guess this is a bit of a complaint.
Before citadels I could run two clients with max settings and adaptive anti aliasing (setting on my amd card). I had great graphics and no jaggies. (aliasing) Eve looked great and I was happily running at 50-60fps on both clients.
Post citadels... Now I need to turn off post processing and switch off adaptive anti aliasing on my card (downgrade to standard multipsampling AA) to get a framerate above 30 fps. Which means eve is now full of jaggies (aliasing) Is fairly unsatisfactory.
I have AMD r9270x 2gb card, 8gb of ram and runnig at 2.6 ghz.
What on earth did you guys do to up the system requirements so much !
"...ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new.... thats where eve is placed... not in cave." | zoonr-Korsairs |
Meanwhile Citadel release issues: "tried to bug report this and the bug report is bugged as well" | Rafeau |
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Vigirr
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Posted - 2016.11.04 08:37:52 -
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Malcorath Sacerdos wrote:Resinball wrote:thank ******* god... the chip manufacturers are even on board with this, which is even more reason to force an upgrade for an old dead systems with huge security holes. NO MORE SUB 10!!! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU CANT USE THE WINDOWS 10 FREE UPGRADE (Even from HACKED Versions this WORKS!!!!) YOU'RE Doing it wrong.
Thank you CCP For ending legacy device support. is win 10 bugfree and ready to use then ?
I waited till the last day to do the free upgrade to avoid being a beta tester as much as possible. Tried it for a month and found it to be slower than 7 with more issues and little quirks, decided to reinstall win7 again. |
Elektra Vngeance
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.04 20:11:51 -
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helana Tsero wrote:@CCP Explorer
I guess this is a bit of a complaint.
Before citadels I could run two clients with max settings and adaptive anti aliasing (setting on my amd card). I had great graphics and no jaggies. (aliasing) Eve looked great and I was happily running at 50-60fps on both clients.
Post citadels... Now I need to turn off post processing and switch off adaptive anti aliasing on my card (downgrade to standard multipsampling AA) to get a framerate above 30 fps. Which means eve is now full of jaggies (aliasing) Is fairly unsatisfactory.
I have AMD r9270x 2gb card, 8gb of ram and runnig at 2.6 ghz.
What on earth did you guys do to up the system requirements so much !
No wonder my PC gets shutdown by himself when i want to warp ... Geez .. I thought it's a software problem at some point .... .. By the way , i haven't read the forums lately so excuse my late discovery of the news ...
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Altair Taurus
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Posted - 2016.11.04 21:33:12 -
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I report no issues with new EVE launcher on my new rig:
CPU Intel i5-6600K @ 4.6 GHz OC RAM Kingston 8 GB DDR4 @ 2400 MHz graphic card GIGABYTE GTX1070 G1 GAMING OC Windows 10 64-bit 25-inch LCD IPS monitor
All EVE graphic setting maxed-out - resolution 1440p @ 60Hz. Game looks beautiful! :) |
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