We are the villains Eve deserves, and the ones it needs, for we did not come to ruin the game, but your game. You wanted a war for Nullsec, and now you have one. No matter who loses, we all win in the end.

You need us so you can have someone to point to and say "that's the bad guy." These pretzels are makin me thirsty.

CO2 Reset standing with the Imperium!

At last they found the Kahunas to do the right thing.

Like all other events in this war, they were offered a big wad of money to give up their loyalty. And if a little bit of money is enough to tide you over, "we don't want allies like that anyway". CO2 set a trap for their own coalition and it didn't work. Now they may join a coalition of alliances that is being held together by nothing but promises of free money and Goon super kills. Once either of those start drying up, someone in that coalition is going to backstab the rest and everything will fall like dominos. And that will happen long before "The Good Guys" even have a chance of taking Deklein.

So enjoy the good fights for as long as they last. These are exciting times for EVE no doubt. But Goons and the Imperium are not going anywhere :)

I think you are just towing the party rhetoric with your first sentence, Loyalty/Isk wasn't the reason and you know it, Being pushed to one side by the Diplo's/leaders and keeping them in the dark over issues time and time again was more the case.

I agree with your second sentence but which one is first to dry up should be your concern.

There is no doubt that by them leaving you have lost a big offensive/Defensive force.

If the other two alliances being talked about also leave then you have serious problems.

The political and military realities of then and now are quite different.

Defending multiple fronts from multiple attackers was trivial in the old system, where coalition meant everything and distance meant nothing. Now we see what happens when it is both a viable tactic, and there is the collective will to enact it.

Exciting times if it holds.

I don't know the exact history with CO2, of course there was more leading up to this than mere cash, but it was definitely a factor. Their own CEO admitted as much. From their own goodbye statement it became clear that they often didn't see eye to eye with the leadership and chose not to speak up about, even though they could have and should have. Instead of bringing their issues to the table they chose to backstab their allies over their own built up frustrations. That is their decision and it will come to bite them in the ass at some point, but such is the nature of EVE politics I guess.

As for how much of a loss their departure is in the current climate only time will tell.

Like all other events in this war, they were offered a big wad of money to give up their loyalty. And if a little bit of money is enough to tide you over, "we don't want allies like that anyway".

How disgusting of a corp, alliance or a single person to be offered isk to break their loyalty.....hmmmmm wasn't this has The Goons disbanded BoB? The promise of riches for one and infamy for another!

You'll probably just hate whoever ends up on top.

It's what people like you do.

I'm loving the goon tears in this thread. Keep telling everyone you're the best, you might have to shout over the gunfire though. Time will tell how things turn out but I'd not underestimate how much people would like to see goons wrecked. Think of the pride people are going to feel being a major part in the downfall of eves biggest single coalition.

by The Mittani 2011-05-24 19:00

Vale of the Silent has fallen, Geminate is long-lost, Majesta Empire and RAGE (for their sake, I have helpfully eliminated no less than four periods in their alliance name) are in retreat, evacuating to Tribute, the bastion of Morsus Mihi and the core territory of the Northern Coalition bloc. Tribute itself is now at risk, and the eyes of EVE are watching, wondering if the largest bloc in the game (with some 50k members, depending on how you do the math) is about to shatter in the face of an assault spearheaded by the Drone Russian Federation. Six months ago, the commentariat was espousing the consensus that the NC was almost embarrassingly invincible, that particular flavor of power which causes its enemies to beg for CCP to intervene on their behalf; now that same group heralds the NC's imminent doom. What the hell happened?

I'd not underestimate how much people would like to see goons wrecked.

The funny part of this is that those people include highsec players who would be laughing about goons getting destroyed. But if they go get booted out of sov space, with citadels rolling out, there's every chance it might work out worse for many highseccers.

The funny part of this is that those people include highsec players who would be laughing about goons getting destroyed. But if they go get booted out of sov space, with citadels rolling out, there's every chance it might work out worse for many highseccers.

Any chance someone could do a Downfall meme video of this?

You'll probably just hate whoever ends up on top.

It's what people like you do.

I am not ashamed of my tears. I feel sad and betrayed - who wouldn't in this situation? If as an ally for years you feel you need to go, have some basic human decency and do it in a manner acceptable for both sides.

That out of the way, though: Bring it on, "Moneybadger Coalition"! Now more than ever.

The funny part of this is that those people include highsec players who would be laughing about goons getting destroyed. But if they go get booted out of sov space, with citadels rolling out, there's every chance it might work out worse for many highseccers.

I give it about another month or two before the "allies" start bickering and squabbling with each other about how to carve up the Goonspace they haven't even conquered yet, and flounce off all buttmad with each other.

Hello, my name is Kalorned and IGÇÖm the head diplomat for the CODE. Alliance. Up until today it is well known that we have received a large portion of our funding (somewhere between 80-90%) from the Goonswarm Federation. After yesterdayGÇÖs events in M-0EEB and surrounding systems myself, loyalanon, our head FC, and Siegfried Cohenberg, our executor, were pulled aside by Goonswarm directorate and informed that our funding would be cut effective immediately. Suffice to say this is a rather sudden, hugely impacting decision made by Goons and while we respect their decision making process we can no longer support them in this war. We continue to hold high respect for Goons due to their minority status as mandated by The New Halaima Code of Conduct but we will be heading in our own direction to seek new avenues of fiscal support. We wish all the best to our friends in Goonswarm as we make this difficult decision.

hardly as most of allies don't give a jackshit about that space of yours

The CFC hasn't been "villainous" in years. They sat up north running sanctums all day, and their FC's left, their dipsos were driven out, and finally the backbone of their military might, CO2, has finally realized that they've been carrying the biggest bunch of bads in EVE and abandoned you.


The war is over. Now its just a game of slap the mittani till he pods himself.

Interesting news from High Sec.