EVE Search - Do DEV's play the 'carebear' role ?

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Do DEV's play the 'carebear' role ?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 9 post(s)
Samuel Freedom Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:31:00 - [1] *Firstly this has no bearing on recent events so don't get my thread locked* Well we all know DEV's have to play the game to have a good understanding of where the game is going, but to what extent do you play? Is it just big allainces that you play in(0.0) or do you play in empire allainces aswell, do you play in NPC corps for months on end, do you set up your own corp and play in that 'from scratch' and see how easy/ hard it is to recruit people and other stuff ? If anybody else wants to ask similar questions that would be great but stay on topic and don't stray into the abyss. ty
Coasterbrian Loss of Sanity	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:34:00 - [2] Kieron has stated in another thread around here somewhere that he runs Cosmos missions in a small corp when he does have time to play. ---------- Loss of Sanity.
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:35:00 - [3] kieron apparently does cosmos missions... t20: "So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level."

Wrangler	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:35:00 - [4] I think it's fairly spread out, I run agent missions and I'm in an NPC corp, the very few times I have to play. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Finigail Abstract	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:36:00 - [5] From whom are you expecting a answer to this question from? The only people who know about devs on TQ aint talking.
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Finigail Abstract From whom are you expecting a answer to this question from? The only people who know about devs on TQ aint talking. Ummm.. maybe the devs themselves?! :O! Devs are allowed to say whether they carebear or not.. just cant be too specific to the point where people figure out who they are and they cant say their names obviously :P Arrow Capital Ship Sales
Samuel Freedom Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:40:00 - [7] Originally by: Coasterbrian Kieron has stated in another thread around here somewhere that he runs Cosmos missions in a small corp when he does have time to play. yea thats cool but im talking more proactive, I mean like spending alot of time(months maybe a year)in the 'low end' and less glamourous part of the game, because alot of people do actually play there and I just wondered if it was a priorety to them in any way, espcially as this is where all newbs start out.
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:48:00 - [8] Edited by: Azerrad InExile on 12/02/2007 23:44:33 Originally by: Samuel Freedom yea thats cool but im talking more proactive, I mean like spending alot of time(months maybe a year)in the 'low end' and less glamourous part of the game, because alot of people do actually play there and I just wondered if it was a priorety to them in any way, espcially as this is where all newbs start out. It seems that the only ones playing on the PVE side of things only play occasionally... t20: "So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level."
Samuel Freedom Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:49:00 - [9] Originally by: Wrangler I think it's fairly spread out, I run agent missions and I'm in an NPC corp, the very few times I have to play. ha! sounds like you don't like playing for the other DEV's though that spend more time.... well if they havn't all ready I think it would be good for some of you( or even one)to start up there own corp and have no special abilities or w/e and carry that along for a few months. If this has been done in the past it might be time to do it again(as times change things evolve) and it may give you an insight as to why some people stay in NPC corps for instance. I don't know its just ideas maybe it should be on the development part of the forum.
Anna Grahm	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:49:00 - [10] Originally by: Wrangler I think it's fairly spread out, I run agent missions and I'm in an NPC corp, the very few times I have to play. No wonder devs won't kick players out of NPC corporations. </sarcasm>

Wrangler	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Samuel Freedom Originally by: Wrangler I think it's fairly spread out, I run agent missions and I'm in an NPC corp, the very few times I have to play. ha! sounds like you don't like playing for the other DEV's though that spend more time.... well if they havn't all ready I think it would be good for some of you( or even one)to start up there own corp and have no special abilities or w/e and carry that along for a few months. If this has been done in the past it might be time to do it again(as times change things evolve) and it may give you an insight as to why some people stay in NPC corps for instance. I don't know its just ideas maybe it should be on the development part of the forum. Well, it's more that I don't have time to play enough to be an addition to a corporation, and I'd just feel like I was a burden to them, so until I have time to play more and join a corp I'll just stay solo and do the occasional mission or whatever. Originally by: Anna Grahm Originally by: Wrangler I think it's fairly spread out, I run agent missions and I'm in an NPC corp, the very few times I have to play. No wonder devs won't kick players out of NPC corporations. </sarcasm> Heh, that isn't my decision to make anyway. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Ruolan Qian	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:35:00 - [12] It's good to see that one of the devs plays as a part time time solo player. I'm one of those too. I enjoy this game a lot but don't have that much time to play. I think having someone in the developement team playing the game the way I do is great. They'll see the game as some of us do.
Kerushi Caldari AeroSpace Engineering	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Wrangler stuff are u doing invention stuff by any chance? 3x cap rig I hyperion for sale
Mortania Minmatar Carbide Industries Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:11:00 - [14] Personally, I think that CCP should have someone start from scratch again and try and use the Player Guide or other obvious documenation on this site to gain an understanding of how to play. There is so much wrong/out of date info on the official site that it's crazy. I pity any new players coming into this game and trying to figure it out. The amount of lore gained from playing for 4 years that is undocumented is mind boggling. I'd offer to come just do documentation for them, but I don't think CCP could afford me for just that job. --- Thoughts on "recent events"
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:16:00 - [15] Originally by: Mortania Personally, I think that CCP should have someone start from scratch again and try and use the Player Guide or other obvious documenation on this site to gain an understanding of how to play. There is so much wrong/out of date info on the official site that it's crazy. I pity any new players coming into this game and trying to figure it out. The amount of lore gained from playing for 4 years that is undocumented is mind boggling. I'd offer to come just do documentation for them, but I don't think CCP could afford me for just that job. Not wanting to draw the wrath of the mods, but a certain dev probably is doing just that right now. When a dev's character is unmasked, I gather it's deleted and they start over. Could be pretty postive, having someone run through the process from a vet perspective. -----------------------------------------------
Ior Mader	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:29:00 - [16] In an interview published on GamesInfo.com on the 13th August 2006 - - EVE Online Lead Programmer, Matthfas Gu=mundsson, took a moment from some of the leaps and bounds EVE has been making lately to answer questions about the changes coming up in EVE with the change to Windows Vista and integration of Vivox . And beer - he is an EVE developer. GamersInfo.net: What's your favorite part of the game when you're in it? How about from a "behind the scenes" kind of situation? Matthfas Gu=mundsson: I play EVE quite casually and sporadically. As such, I rely on my trusty agents to give me juicy kill missions whenever I want. To enjoy the game I need to shut down my programmer brain for a while. Once when I was starting with a new character I did some major career planning by running a lot of queries on the DB. Using that info I was going to maximize my agent / skill / ISK / loot gain in as smallest time as possible. It really didn't work out and it really wasn't any fun either. I came across this interview the other day and thought it might help answer your question for at least one Dev Ior Mader

Karl Chroimcer Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:31:00 - [17] Originally by: Mortania Personally, I think that CCP should have someone start from scratch again and try and use the Player Guide or other obvious documenation on this site to gain an understanding of how to play. There is so much wrong/out of date info on the official site that it's crazy. I pity any new players coming into this game and trying to figure it out. The amount of lore gained from playing for 4 years that is undocumented is mind boggling. I'd offer to come just do documentation for them, but I don't think CCP could afford me for just that job. CCP understands that the guide has become out of date, and ISD are currently in the process of creating a new up to date guide to replace the current player guide. While I cannot give an exact time for its completion (As is the nature of it being created by volunteers that have other things to do in their lives) it is coming. The Aussie Mod

Samuel Freedom Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:34:00 - [18] thx for posts and yes the posts so far have helped alot.
Salvis Tallan Gallente Team Condor	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:54:00 - [19] Originally by: Karl Chroimcer Originally by: Mortania Personally, I think that CCP should have someone start from scratch again and try and use the Player Guide or other obvious documenation on this site to gain an understanding of how to play. There is so much wrong/out of date info on the official site that it's crazy. I pity any new players coming into this game and trying to figure it out. The amount of lore gained from playing for 4 years that is undocumented is mind boggling. I'd offer to come just do documentation for them, but I don't think CCP could afford me for just that job. CCP understands that the guide has become out of date, and ISD are currently in the process of creating a new up to date guide to replace the current player guide. While I cannot give an exact time for its completion (As is the nature of it being created by volunteers that have other things to do in their lives) it is coming. If you ever need any help on any of the parts, dont hesitate to ask any of us! ------
TwIsTeDSoLdIeR	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:26:00 - [20] this is what the community would like to see is posts like this Originally by: Wrangler I think it's fairly spread out, I run agent missions and I'm in an NPC corp, the very few times I have to play. and that post from kieron stating what he was getting up to in the game (most likely there tea breaks ), so guys because we know this and when they give there character name out dont go spamming there private chat invites and dont be offended if they are mostly declined (not that i have tried) and im sure you guys will get a fair few lol, but this is one great step will the other devs follow in youre footsteps ? PS I hope you guys know what youre letting urself in for hehe
maximus babbarus Freelance Economics Astrological resources	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Patch86 Edited by: Patch86 on 13/02/2007 01:15:04 Originally by: Mortania Personally, I think that CCP should have someone start from scratch again and try and use the Player Guide or other obvious documenation on this site to gain an understanding of how to play. There is so much wrong/out of date info on the official site that it's crazy. I pity any new players coming into this game and trying to figure it out. The amount of lore gained from playing for 4 years that is undocumented is mind boggling. I'd offer to come just do documentation for them, but I don't think CCP could afford me for just that job. EDIT: Rephrase. When a dev has his character's secret identity revealed, I gather they have that character deleted and create another. That means that presumably at least one is expereincing it a-fresh recently, and it could well be happening all the time (who knows how often dev characters are forced to re-roll?). It'd be good to have some dev's, with their veteran eyes on, giving it a good go through from a practical "I want a character" point of view, rather than an "I'm bug testing" one. from what ive heared the name and pics are changed and they have to leave the corp but sp wise its the same person, heared that a few times on hear cant rem if that was the offical stance on it though Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
Soporo	Posted - 2007.02.13 06:03:00 - [22] I somehow cant wrap my mind around a Dev mining scord in a n00b ship to earn enough to get that mackdaddy Bantam, can you?
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.02.13 06:07:00 - [23] mmm so the devs know how frustarting exploration is 3 hours trying to find mag siganutre and squat and my skills are nearly maxed out
Vastation	Posted - 2007.02.13 07:33:00 - [24] Edited by: Vastation on 13/02/2007 07:29:59 What I'd like to know is if the devs have ever played on an average computer system with an average connection from north america for exemple? Or do you mostly play from the office with great computers and of course a very good connection? Altho I wonder how good the connection from Iceland to London is. I was in two fleet battles last weekend, large battles 100 ships on both sides and I saw about 14 frames of the first and none of the second which is a shame because I got Doomsdayed so I wish I could of seen that. I guess what I'm getting at is, do the devs have a good idea of what the average player's game experience is like? V.
Ishana Minmatar The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.13 07:39:00 - [25] I for one would love to know what Tuxford does excactly in the game when he's playing. I would love to know if the person responsible for every single PvP change, actually does any PvP himself? Care to comment Tuxiepoe? _________________________________________________________ Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected])
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.13 08:14:00 - [26] As a developer (not of Eve) I can think of several reasons why the CCP Devs might not be play Eve a lot: * They wrote it. Programmers are notoriously bad at testing their own code and it can extend into simply not wanting to run it. A lot of good developers have this reaction because they know that it will seriously annoy them if they find something wrong. In my experience only a bad developer can shrug away a bug in their code. A good developer will be annoyed and try to fix it or (if stuck at home without the source code) worry away it losing sleep and getting an upset stomach. * They are sick of it. Well, maybe not sick of it but if you are thining about Eve all day at work do you really think you're going to go home and play it for another three hours straight? * They are tired. Well this isn't restricted to programmers but after a hard day at the office I can sometimes barely summon the effort to watch TV. Carebaring in Empire is a nice compromise the rest of the time. Not to brainless, not too taxing. * Friends & Family 'nuff said. * Social life 'nuff said. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] Please don't read this signature.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.13 08:14:00 - [27] As a developer (not of Eve) I can think of several reasons why the CCP Devs might not be play Eve a lot: * They wrote it. Programmers are notoriously bad at testing their own code and it can extend into simply not wanting to run it. A lot of good developers have this reaction because they know that it will seriously annoy them if they find something wrong. In my experience only a bad developer can shrug away a bug in their code. A good developer will be annoyed and try to fix it or (if stuck at home without the source code) worry away it losing sleep and getting an upset stomach. * They are sick of it. Well, maybe not sick of it but if you are thining about Eve all day at work do you really think you're going to go home and play it for another three hours straight? * They are tired. Well this isn't restricted to programmers but after a hard day at the office I can sometimes barely summon the effort to watch TV. Carebaring in Empire is a nice compromise the rest of the time. Not to brainless, not too taxing. * Friends & Family 'nuff said. * Social life 'nuff said. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] Please don't read this signature.

Oveur	Posted - 2007.02.13 08:55:00 - [28] Originally by: Andrue As a developer (not of Eve) I can think of several reasons why the CCP Devs might not be play Eve a lot: * They wrote it. Programmers are notoriously bad at testing their own code and it can extend into simply not wanting to run it. A lot of good developers have this reaction because they know that it will seriously annoy them if they find something wrong. In my experience only a bad developer can shrug away a bug in their code. A good developer will be annoyed and try to fix it or (if stuck at home without the source code) worry away it losing sleep and getting an upset stomach. * They are sick of it. Well, maybe not sick of it but if you are thining about Eve all day at work do you really think you're going to go home and play it for another three hours straight? * They are tired. Well this isn't restricted to programmers but after a hard day at the office I can sometimes barely summon the effort to watch TV. Carebaring in Empire is a nice compromise the rest of the time. Not to brainless, not too taxing. * Friends & Family 'nuff said. * Social life 'nuff said. We're also up to 200 staff members now, I think we're fairly well spread over the different playstyles. However, your points are quite valid On the topic of the player guide, I'm hoping we have the person and assets to start our EVElopedia and other initiatives of the same sort. Wether we play the tutorial on new characters, yes we most certainly do. In fact, it's mandatory. Senior Producer EVE Online


Wrangler	Posted - 2007.02.13 09:23:00 - [29] Originally by: Soporo I somehow cant wrap my mind around a Dev mining scord in a n00b ship to earn enough to get that mackdaddy Bantam, can you? When I started EVE there had been so many threads about how solo players could never make it and it would take them ages to get a cruiser or whatever. So even though I was in a corp at the time I made it a point to play by myself, mining, until I could afford a cruiser. And even though I can't remember exactly how long it took, it was considerably less than what people were saying. I think Devs sometimes start over, of course there are the outed ones, but sometimes you just get tired of your main, you want to experience being new, have no ties, that kind of stuff. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Eomar Standard Operations Building Services	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Wrangler Originally by: Soporo but sometimes you just get tired of your main, you want to experience being new, have no ties, that kind of stuff. oh god no. I personally HATE new characters (my own not other people) I like having shiny lewts and BIGF***INGGUNS. its what makes it fun. im rating this thread a 5/5. its about time people realised devs are people too and actually play the game like normal people. ...in accordance with the prophecy

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.