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CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 14064	Posted - 2016.04.01 10:52:55 - [1] - Quote Hello folks! We're ready to announce another change we're planning on making for our Citadel release next month, this one relating to Higgs Anchor rigs and interdiction nullified ships. Over recent months we have been seeing an increase in the use of interdiction nullified cruisers (especially the Victorieux Luxury Yacht) combined with Higgs Anchor rigs for rolling wormholes. This is a very clever and effective use of the game mechanics, but arguments have been raised that it is currently too strong. This topic was raised by the CSM at our most recent summit, and we have been taking a closer look at it since then. Corbexx started a discussion thread on the wormhole forums for this topic after the summit, and I want to thank everyone who participated in that debate. We generally prefer to leave creative uses of game mechanics in place if possible, but sometimes certain mechanics combine to create unhealthy situations that must be changed. We've been watching closely as tactics involving rolling yachts have evolved over the recent months, and have determined that this meta is heading in a harmful direction. Excellent posts like this one from Axel Stenmark were especially helpful when we were making our decision. Our current plan is that as of the Citadel release, fitting a Higgs Anchor rig will disable any Interdiction Nullification on the fitted ship. This means you will continue to be free to use the Higgs Anchor on Yachts, T3 Cruisers and Interceptors, but that while the rig is fitted those ships will be susceptible to non-targeted interdiction effects (bubbles) like a normal ship. Players will also be able to continue to roll wormholes with non-higgs Yachts and Strategic Cruisers while enjoying the benefits of cloaking and nullification, but will take twice as many jumps to close a hole. We will be keeping a close eye on how this change impacts the wormhole meta, and will be ready to step in and make tweaks as necessary. Thanks and happy Truthful Friday! Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Winthorp 3826	Posted - 2016.04.01 10:58:22 - [2] - Quote This is really the best change you could have made. Thanks. Also FIRST.
Borat Guereen Chao3 Chao3 Alliance 58	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:08:12 - [3] - Quote Great to hear! Join our Minarchist Revolution!
Foedus Latro Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens 236	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:08:53 - [4] - Quote What a great decision ;) Isogen 5 \| Wormhole PvP Corporation Director and Diplomat
Anthar Thebess 1484	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:09:13 - [5] - Quote Now just create lowsec gate to Stain and Venal and this will be best day for eve in years. Stop discrimination, help in a fight against terrorists Show your support to The Cause!
Jezza McWaffle Overload This 278	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:13:50 - [6] - Quote Personally CCP I think you missed the critical issue of Yacht rolling, which is being able to fit a 100mn AB, a Yacht one way without a higgs still has, what 64 million mass? Thats 128 in and out which I think is still way too high without higgs. It was higgs combined with 100mn that was ludicrous, but if you lower the PG and / or low slots to prevent a 100mn being fitted then it solves the issue much better. Removing higgs does not solve the issue of uncatchable, cheap and no sp required ships. Wormholes worst badass \| Checkout my Wormhole blog
Serg Sinist Without 0	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:18:50 - [7] - Quote Please, add this feature too: Higgs rigs turn off MWD and MJD, because Megatrons (or others BS) with Higgs rig is imbalance too (so fast closing!) or increase hole mass.
yamamoto suhara Stain Forever Happy Cartel 10	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:19:16 - [8] - Quote CCP PLZ How about exporation modules fitted on non exploration designed ships(aka ceptors).I know load of explorers gona go mad but isome special modules should go on ly for designed ships
ChromeStriker Out of Focus Odin's Call 1025	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:25:14 - [9] - Quote Serg Sinist wrote: Please, add this feature too: if Higgs rigs is installed then pilot can't activate MWD and MJD, because Megatrons (or others BS) with Higgs rig is imbalance too (so fast closing!) or increase hole mass. Please ignore this comment thank you No Worries
Snoooow Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens 1	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:25:36 - [10] - Quote Serg Sinist wrote: Please, add this feature too: if Higgs rigs is installed then pilot can't activate MWD and MJD, because Megatrons (or others BS) with Higgs rig is imbalance too (so fast closing!) or increase hole mass. They're not imbalanced, they spawn like 15km from the hole and only reapproach at like 100m/s. They're easy to catch and kill.
Serg Sinist Without 0	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:27:31 - [11] - Quote Snoooow wrote: Serg Sinist wrote: Please, add this feature too: if Higgs rigs is installed then pilot can't activate MWD and MJD, because Megatrons (or others BS) with Higgs rig is imbalance too (so fast closing!) or increase hole mass. They're not imbalanced, they spawn like 15km from the hole and only reapproach at like 100m/s. They're easy to catch and kill. Overblob kills always.
ChromeStriker Out of Focus Odin's Call 1025	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:29:37 - [12] - Quote Serg Sinist wrote: Snoooow wrote: Serg Sinist wrote: Please, add this feature too: if Higgs rigs is installed then pilot can't activate MWD and MJD, because Megatrons (or others BS) with Higgs rig is imbalance too (so fast closing!) or increase hole mass. They're not imbalanced, they spawn like 15km from the hole and only reapproach at like 100m/s. They're easy to catch and kill. Overblob kills always. .... Or a bubble.... a single bubble and a little dps... maybe a web and a scram to stop an mjd... no blob needed lol No Worries
Serg Sinist Without 0	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:48:26 - [13] - Quote Or this feature: Ship with Higgs anchor rig may with the Icelandic chance close wormhole whatever life or mass (if not verge of collapce of course).
Dominus Alterai Star Freaks 113	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:51:56 - [14] - Quote Quote: 2016-04-01 Please choose a better date to release feature posts. I'm not 100% certain that this isn't some elaborate ruse. Good change, however. Gets rid of both the yacht rolling and Cloaky T3 rolling safety nets. Reducing your holes to a quivering mess since 2009.
Dewey Cheetham No Vacancies 0	Posted - 2016.04.01 11:55:18 - [15] - Quote April fool's day change.
Mai Khumm Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 826	Posted - 2016.04.01 12:03:17 - [16] - Quote April 1st...I'm not believing the Internet today! Come back tomorrow...
Callduron SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 635	Posted - 2016.04.01 12:05:06 - [17] - Quote Came expecting an April Fool's post about interdiction nullified Citadels warping around being immune to bubbles. Left disappointed. I write http://stabbedup.blogspot.co.uk/ I post on reddit as /u/callduron.
Duo Roman Warp Nomads 10	Posted - 2016.04.01 12:33:21 - [18] - Quote No matter the solution to the "No risk in rolling Wormholes" problem, Yachts should have at least Evasive Maneuvering lvl 5 (same as interceptors which has the same nullifying bonus).
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2372	Posted - 2016.04.01 14:21:00 - [19] - Quote Good change. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
Desiree Moufette SarahG CO 0	Posted - 2016.04.01 14:51:41 - [20] - Quote is this an April's fools joke?
Ransu Asanari V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA 491	Posted - 2016.04.01 15:58:31 - [21] - Quote I can accept this change, because it still leaves the option to roll a hole with a 100MN Yacht. It'll just take a lot longer to do it, but with enough of them you can still mass holes. If the only choices are doing this in the face of a gang you can't possibly fight - it's giving them an option, rather than just POS up or log off for the day. It'll give more time for the invaders to set up some kind of attempt to catch the Yachts or bring ships to roll prematurely and trap them, or try to decloak them with capitals and target with remote sensor boosters.
Iam Cloaked Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2016.04.01 17:05:03 - [22] - Quote Goons + W-space = bad, mmkay?
Domminique Francon Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.04.01 17:44:30 - [23] - Quote Will we be able to unfit the rigs then?
Chesterfield Fancypantz The Golden Horde. 59	Posted - 2016.04.01 18:01:48 - [24] - Quote Honestly, I wanted yachts nerfed as much as anyone and I am okay with that. I feel that the t3s getting nerfed at the same time is heavy handed. I felt that they were in a good place with the risk of being caught not impossible, and expensive/sp loss etc. I think that the correct change was to pull nullification off of the yacht itself and leave t3's alone. I also proposed that t3s should have their align time increased a bit to make them easier to catch. This is heavy handed, and in reality all it means is that everyone will just have MORE alts, and make MORE passes, and waste more of our time.
Alexhandr Shkarov Swamphole Inc. Swamphole 30	Posted - 2016.04.01 19:30:24 - [25] - Quote Or you know, Commit more ISK and fight for the connection if it's contested. Which you used to do, Chester. All my posts are on my personal title and should not be confused as me speaking for anyone else.
Flyinghotpocket Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica 569	Posted - 2016.04.01 20:02:58 - [26] - Quote thats cute. but from what i read. the collapsing happens during no combat activities. so this change is pointless unless you plan on gate camping the wh permanently. Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
Kenneth Feld Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 335	Posted - 2016.04.01 20:07:18 - [27] - Quote Dewey Cheetham wrote: April fool's day change. You realize Fozzie has a penchant for posting on April first, but none have been jokes. He is setting us up for a doozie
Alyssia Benar Vision Inc Hole Control 33	Posted - 2016.04.01 20:14:09 - [28] - Quote If this is going live, THANK YOU Fozzie!
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2372	Posted - 2016.04.02 00:41:46 - [29] - Quote Domminique Francon wrote: Will we be able to unfit the rigs then? Yes, you can destroy them. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2338	Posted - 2016.04.02 04:46:33 - [30] - Quote Hah! Intentionally collapsing holes is terrible and you should feel bad for your carebear ways. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~

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