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Benglada Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.15 05:27:00 - [61] Originally by: Pottsey How can a ship that cank tank over 1000dps as a shield tank in PvE while being cheap not be classed as good? Its a carebares dream ship if they like drones. Have you ever made a post without mentioning the word shield? EVER? --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends. Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected]) Sig By Ortos
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.15 06:27:00 - [62] The myrm is a ship that screams versatility this is why. 5 mid slots for shield tank or ewar or cap boosters n such. Dont want to shield tank?Armor tanking with the myrm is also a beast. 125m3 dronebay with a drone damage bonus. enough pg and cpu to fit a nos setup or a med blaster ganking setup. Now i see your point about killing the drones,but that only happens if your enemy is far out of your range because if your close enough to your drones you can simply just recall them,which works whether your using a blaster setup or nos setup. And if you use med drones 125 dronebay is pretty nice. All in all i do have to agree it isnt the typical gellente droneboat,but thats not necessarily a bad thing. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr.
Gallente Caliente Anti-BoB Flash Mob	Posted - 2007.02.15 07:58:00 - [63] Edited by: Gallente Caliente on 15/02/2007 07:57:11 ^^^^^ what he said. The beauty of the vexor/myrmy/domi line is you don't always know what you're going to get since they are so versatile. Is it gonna nos you? Blaster you? Attack at range with drones/rails? ----------------------------------------------- www.nobob.info
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.15 09:14:00 - [64] Originally by: Gamble Dakota Damp + Drone Cycling and any half brained myrm pilot just beat the intelligent Drake pilot without breaking a sweat. Of course, if that Drake pilot was actually intelligent, he never would have engaged a battleship in the first place. Oh, sorry, meant Gallente tier 2 BC. You sure about that? I can't get my buddy's passive Drake much below 50% shields. Btw, I'm using OgreIIs with BC4 and Drone Interfacing5. Then again I can easily escape too so it's pretty much a draw. Nossed Drake = no cap for scram.
El'Tar Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.15 11:39:00 - [65] I faught a myrm in my drake, just went for his drones, and there went his dps, couldnt keep scramb on him though due to nos :( I do think Myrm's are overpowerd though
Pottsey Gallente Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.02.15 18:54:00 - [66] ôOriginally by: Benglada Have you ever made a post without mentioning the word shield? EVER?ö There was that one time I accidentally posted with my alt who doesnÆt have a sig with the word ôshieldö in. Passive shield tanking guide click here
SN3263827 The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:21:00 - [67] Originally by: Tibrius Archer If you used a more agressive NOS/Neut fitting you would win more! I doubt it. The myrmidon has more flexibility than the dominix when it comes to nosferatu fitting, but if I had 1750MW spare to throw at each high slot I'd be using large blasters not nos. If we're waving anecdotal evidence around, I've solo'd multiple BS in my single-nos domi, and multiple cruisers/battlecruisers and well as solo BS in my single/dual nos myrmidon. Sometimes under sentry fire. I'm not going to pretend that that makes my setup the best though. Quote: Its rediculous that my mega with 200m in fittings can't do what my cheapo nos domi can achive. Its ridiculous that my hyperion can't warp cloaked when my 40 million isk arazu can. Apples and oranges. Quote: P.S injectors don't save people as my NOS/Neut rate exceeds 900cap units every 12 seconds. A well managed cap booster won't give a damn. _____________________________________________
SN3263827 The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:26:00 - [68] Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: ForeverKnight gotta comment that if tech 2 battleships ever come out you will probably have to have both Battleship and Battlecruiser 5 I doubt it. I don't. Look at all the T2 ship classes. AF requires Frig 5 HACs require AF 4 Command ships require HAC 4 It makes sense that a T2 BS will require Command ships 4 following the existing pattern. _____________________________________________
Jerick Ludhowe Internet Tough Guys Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:49:00 - [69] Originally by: Kruel You sure about that? I can't get my buddy's passive Drake much below 50% shields. Btw, I'm using OgreIIs with BC4 and Drone Interfacing5. Then again I can easily escape too so it's pretty much a draw. Nossed Drake = no cap for scram. Scram does not even really matter as you have an mwd and he doesnt. If he happens to have both a scram and MWD fitted then his tank is going to suffer, significantly. For that reason running several nos when fighting a passive drake is stupid as you're not fighting his cap you're fighting his capless passive regen. Put 6 guns on it and let me know how well he holds up Heinrich Klaus: "You need to get a leet signature you****got"
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.15 20:54:00 - [70] Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 15/02/2007 20:54:08 Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 15/02/2007 20:53:49 Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 15/02/2007 20:52:59 Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 15/02/2007 20:52:30 Originally by: SN3263827 Originally by: Tibrius Archer If you used a more agressive NOS/Neut fitting you would win more! I doubt it. The myrmidon has more flexibility than the dominix when it comes to nosferatu fitting, but if I had 1750MW spare to throw at each high slot I'd be using large blasters not nos. If we're waving anecdotal evidence around, I've solo'd multiple BS in my single-nos domi, and multiple cruisers/battlecruisers and well as solo BS in my single/dual nos myrmidon. Sometimes under sentry fire. I'm not going to pretend that that makes my setup the best though. Quote: Its rediculous that my mega with 200m in fittings can't do what my cheapo nos domi can achive.[/quoteIts ridiculous that my hyperion can't warp cloaked when my 40 million isk arazu can. Apples and oranges Quote: P.S injectors don't save people as my NOS/Neut rate exceeds 900cap units every 12 seconds. A well managed cap booster won't give a damn. But could you really have had those victorys in the hinted at racial setup? i.e could that have been achived with blasters? You HAVE to answer no. Please don't repost and lie to me either and say that you could have had those vitorys using blasters.....be honest this thread is about furthering EvE not lying to me to win an argument. (this comment is not directly pointed at you.) Apples and oranges? eh? So its OK that a the cheaper BS of a race fitted, not with its racial weapon, can achive more than the more expensive BS the once top of the line megathron when fitted with its designed for racial weapon racial weapon? Comon please! Do you really belive thats ok. Are you really trying to say it makes balanced sense that a NOS domi can achive more 8/10 than a blasterthron? Comically sighting the differance between Arazu and a hyperion as some sort of comparison designed principly to draw ridicule to my quote was strange. I don't know why you did that it served no point. Seriously You can out drain cap boosting ships when you have those levels of CAP attack on someone. As soon as they inject its gone.... Seriously I am not lying about this I am no n00b I have done it to people and had it done to me. ***************************************** "Get in my way and I will burn your fleet from stem to stern"
ForeverKnight Caldari World Order	Posted - 2007.02.15 21:06:00 - [71] bah in the end who cares? people with low SP prefer drones, nos, and missiles. People with more SP prefer guns because they can use them effectively. End of story.
SN3263827 The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.15 21:28:00 - [72] Originally by: Tibrius Archer But could you really have had those victorys in the hinted at racial setup? i.e could that have been achived with blasters? You HAVE to answer no. No I don't. I only recently started using autocannons and before that used Heavy Ions on my myrmidon with similar success. Changing to ACs saves me some cap that's all. I don't see anything anywhere saying I have to use medium hybrids on a battlecruiser, and without a damage bonus there's little point. However, fitting small blasters on a myrm is stupid because you'll have hundreds of MW going spare that give you no advantage, and anyone with medium blasters fitted will destroy you. I love it, for example, when a small-gun platerax engages my medium-gun thorax, Orbit at optimal and web and the small guns can't hit me. Quote: Please don't repost and lie to me either and say that you could have had those vitorys using blasters..... Actually a lot of the victories I had in mind when I posted were with medium blasters, and the examples were showing that guns and 1 or 2 nos are better than just nos, and not autocannons over blasters. I certainly wouldn't have won my dominix vs 2 raven fight with a nos domi. And that one was definitely a blaster fight because I didn't even have the autocannon skills at that point. Quote: Apples and oranges? eh? So its OK that a the cheaper BS of a race fitted, not with its racial weapon, can achive more than the more expensive BS the once top of the line megathron when fitted with its designed for racial weapon racial weapon? Comon please Yes. Its all about role. You wouldn't take a domi in a sniper fleet would you? Quote: Do you really belive thats ok. Are you really trying to say it makes balanced sense that a NOS domi can achive more 8/10 than a blasterthron? Comically sighting the differance between Arazu and a hyperion as some sort of comparison designed principly to draw ridicule to my quote was strange. I don't know why you did that it served no point. You mising the point doesn't negate the point. Blasterthrons definitely have their uses, but they aren't as good solo as dominixes. Not every ship is good in every circumstance. Quote: Seriously You can out drain cap boosting ships when you have those levels of CAP attack on someone. As soon as they inject its gone.... Unless you have magical nos and neuts that have zero cycle time all I have to do is activate modules as soon as the booster cycles. It is possible to step the nos so that you cover as much of the booster cycle as possible but it isn't perfect and I have the advantage of being able to see my mod cycle. _____________________________________________
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.15 21:32:00 - [73] Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 15/02/2007 21:32:35 Okay maybe I need re clarify some core arguments here. This is NOT a thread saying ôI donÆt think the myrm is good cause I canÆt fit it blah blah ô or ôOr the myrm is ** because it has crap this that or the otherö This is a myrm is post because of what it represents. Its a ship that potentially gives the gallante more versatility than they deserve. Every other race has a ship in the myrm class that plays to their battle ethic. Myrm is very generous on fitting and very open minded in fitted which bad if youÆre on the outside looking in (Especially if your amarr it looks like a another opportunity not to get hit with blasters and tank like your supposed too, it looks like another way to pick at your cap with NOS) It pays to small gun use without its hybrid bonus and panders to NOS because of this too. And it then has a good slot layout as conciliation for a lost hybrid bonus that probably would not give it the edge over a NOS setup in 80%+ of combat scenarios. The CORE problems with EvE, I cannot stress this enough: Ships fitted with * loads of NOS and perhaps small guns particularly if the ship is a drone ship largely dominates. Not just other ships but would even dominate itself if it was fitted with the weapon system it was designed around* Quiz time. 1) How many ISHTAR setups have medium blasters? Be honest? Go to the movies section of the forums and it will be very much harder to find PvP vids with medium blaster ISHTARS than it will be to find NOS/Small gun ISHTAR videos. 2) How many Domis have you seen in the last 6 months that did not have ** loads of NOS? Not just defensive either but an aggressive cap devastation setup NOS/neut setup? Now compare this to the amount of hybrid based Domi you see? The CORE statements. I will fully admit that it would cost me over 200m to fit my mega to be able to destroy my own NOS Domi if I was flying it. I will go on to say that for an Amarr ship to destroy me with lasers it would take almost an act of God when flying the NOS Domi. I hate myrm as I said earlier not for the instant coffee reason people first assume that I sighted at the top. I hate it for what it represents in EvE. The way things are going with the combat model. I do believe EvE should have surprise setups that work; I think it would be boring if every ship did what the description suggested exactly. I even will go as far and concede that NOS instead of hybrids should be better in 50% of situations on a lot of setups (typically drone boats) !!(I think that is very liberal of me) But I feel itÆs a sham when NOS out performs auto guns, hybrids and lasers ( all of the correct size) for a lot of setups. *************************************** "Get in my way and I will burn your fleet from stem to stern"
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.15 21:46:00 - [74] Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe Originally by: Kruel You sure about that? I can't get my buddy's passive Drake much below 50% shields. Btw, I'm using OgreIIs with BC4 and Drone Interfacing5. Then again I can easily escape too so it's pretty much a draw. Nossed Drake = no cap for scram. Scram does not even really matter as you have an mwd and he doesnt. If he happens to have both a scram and MWD fitted then his tank is going to suffer, significantly. For that reason running several nos when fighting a passive drake is stupid as you're not fighting his cap you're fighting his capless passive regen. Put 6 guns on it and let me know how well he holds up True, but then I'd lose to a nos-a-don and face more difficulty with long range orbiters. Rock paper scissors I guess.
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.15 21:49:00 - [75] Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 15/02/2007 21:48:42 Originally by: SN3263827 Originally by: Tibrius Archer But could you really have had those victorys in the hinted at racial setup? i.e could that have been achived with blasters? You HAVE to answer no. No I don't. I only recently started using autocannons and before that used Heavy Ions on my myrmidon with similar success. Changing to ACs saves me some cap that's all. I don't see anything anywhere saying I have to use medium hybrids on a battlecruiser, and without a damage bonus there's little point. However, fitting small blasters on a myrm is stupid because you'll have hundreds of MW going spare that give you no advantage, and anyone with medium blasters fitted will destroy you. I love it, for example, when a small-gun platerax engages my medium-gun thorax, Orbit at optimal and web and the small guns can't hit me. Quote: Please don't repost and lie to me either and say that you could have had those vitorys using blasters..... Actually a lot of the victories I had in mind when I posted were with medium blasters, and the examples were showing that guns and 1 or 2 nos are better than just nos, and not autocannons over blasters. I certainly wouldn't have won my dominix vs 2 raven fight with a nos domi. And that one was definitely a blaster fight because I didn't even have the autocannon skills at that point. Quote: Apples and oranges? eh? So its OK that a the cheaper BS of a race fitted, not with its racial weapon, can achive more than the more expensive BS the once top of the line megathron when fitted with its designed for racial weapon racial weapon? Comon please Yes. Its all about role. You wouldn't take a domi in a sniper fleet would you? Quote: Do you really belive thats ok. Are you really trying to say it makes balanced sense that a NOS domi can achive more 8/10 than a blasterthron? Comically sighting the differance between Arazu and a hyperion as some sort of comparison designed principly to draw ridicule to my quote was strange. I don't know why you did that it served no point. You mising the point doesn't negate the point. Blasterthrons definitely have their uses, but they aren't as good solo as dominixes. Not every ship is good in every circumstance. Quote: Seriously You can out drain cap boosting ships when you have those levels of CAP attack on someone. As soon as they inject its gone.... Unless you have magical nos and neuts that have zero cycle time all I have to do is activate modules as soon as the booster cycles. It is possible to step the nos so that you cover as much of the booster cycle as possible but it isn't perfect and I have the advantage of being able to see my mod cycle. Seriosuly when NOSed that much it effects your repping loads U can still get the odd cycle in but its problaby not enough to stop there heavy drone bonused drones or tank breaking weapon..... unless there miles below you in skill. Oh and if your in a laser ship you are dead. Surely you will at least agree with me on that Y/N? Inshort. I was going to answer you point by point but you seem not to see any of my arguments anyway. Its like we play totally different games? Are you the same Rabbits that hang out around Jan? Cause if your a pirate ganker fighting mostly unprepaired people we may well be playing different games. I think its suspicious as you really fight me on every point I may well be talking ** here but I am no n00b I am not making this up. I ask you this. Is NOS, and small gun undersizing balanced verses the hinted at decription defacto setup of ships for the say 90% of PvP comon ships in EvE Y/N? *************************************** "Get in my way and I will burn your fleet from stem to stern"
BANDID NED-Clan R i s e	Posted - 2007.02.16 12:40:00 - [76] I dont get the author all the new BC are exellent ships in the right hands and with the rights skills (imo get in a tier 2 BC when having BC lvl 5 for max bonus) if not skilled enough stop whining get in a cyclone , ferox or brutix prophecy they are fine and deadly ships allso just because (i think u are unexperianced in pvp and skill wise) dont whine about ships ive seen a Myr Tank 2 BS and kill both ive seen a Hurricane do the Same (it was mine) so pls stop talking or make topics about this ship is bad or that ship is bad Every ship is good for the right purpose. And Yeah Myr is an UBER PVE/NPC ship im loving it! Train ure drones skills dude !!! T2 heavy are IMBA
Phoenicia Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.02.16 13:03:00 - [77] Originally by: Tibrius Archer Any ship can be good by fitting NOS to it and smaller class guns. Yea, like that one time when I fitted my Raven with 4x small lasers and 4x large NOS. HA! I totally pwned those 0.9 sec rats. Not to mention when my 75mm T2 railgun Deimos went up against that Vaga.... Sure I lost the ship but Ohohoho it was so good in that fight. Peace is a lie, there is only BOOBIES!
smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2007.02.16 13:08:00 - [78] can see the point, gall are meant to be blaster + drone, amarr are meant to be able to tank it. On the other hand the tradeoff with nos vs dps is massive and makes them less effective in small fleet fights. To illustrate, you bring your fleet of nosdomis and i'll bring my fleet of gankapests. By the time the drones get from the primay to the secondary you've probably lost most of your fleet. Nos boats have a role, solo / very small gang pvp. They are perhaps a little too good at this. But they're nowhere near as good as people make out, especially with the ew nerf. sgb
smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2007.02.16 13:09:00 - [79] P.S. Perhaps a better name for this thread would be 'the myrm is too versitile, give it a more specific role'. If you want that. sgb
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.17 13:38:00 - [80] Originally by: smallgreenblur can see the point, gall are meant to be blaster + drone, amarr are meant to be able to tank it. On the other hand the tradeoff with nos vs dps is massive and makes them less effective in small fleet fights. To illustrate, you bring your fleet of nosdomis and i'll bring my fleet of gankapests. By the time the drones get from the primay to the secondary you've probably lost most of your fleet. Nos boats have a role, solo / very small gang pvp. They are perhaps a little too good at this. But they're nowhere near as good as people make out, especially with the ew nerf. sgb Excellent post! Not only have you understood my point you came back with a hypervalid counter argument that made me think. The people above are just either ignorant to reading or just jump at opertunitys where they think they can flame or suggest I have low skills (if you read up you will see that I am virtually MAXED in all thinks gallante and tanking with armor with maxed energy skills). To answer your post.... I am bothered more because I hate fleets. I like small solo/gang warfare so you can see my whine. For me that aspect of the game is broken. In a warp distruper range gate fight of a few people my fav and most comon in empire the game combat is slightly broken. But you are right in what you said thats why loads of people are not arsed. I herd a good quote "The differance between pirate and anti pirate is that pirates use guns and anti-pirates use NOS" ***************************************** "Get in my way and I will burn your fleet from stem to stern"
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.17 13:39:00 - [81] Originally by: Phoenicia Edited by: Phoenicia on 16/02/2007 13:26:38 Originally by: Tibrius Archer Any ship can be good by fitting NOS to it and smaller class guns. Yea, like that one time when I fitted my Raven with 4x small lasers and 4x large NOS. HA! I totally pwned those 0.9 sec rats. Not to mention when my 75mm T2 railgun Deimos went up against that Vaga.... Sure I lost the ship but Ohohoho it was so good in that fight. ---edit--- To put it bluntly: How is the MYRMIDON overpowered if you say ANY ship can fit an oversized module, NOS and small guns? Is it because this ship is actually moderately effective when... say... a Ferox with a cruise launcher and 4 assault launchers isn't? I had a Rax once with 2 125mm rails, 3 med NOS and a 1600mm plate. Good? Yes. Overpowered? Hell no. There would be plenty of "normal" cruiser setups out there that would kick the bejeezas out of me. An EW Cerb comes to mind. Celestis. I lost that ship in a 1v1 against a Sacriledge. Sure it took him a while to kill me, but in no way was the Sac ever in danger of me breaking his tank. If I had medium guns it may've been different. I think understanding escaped you. ***************************************** "Get in my way and I will burn your fleet from stem to stern"
Fokus Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.02.17 13:48:00 - [82] Edited by: Fokus on 17/02/2007 13:52:12 Edited by: Fokus on 17/02/2007 13:44:37 The Myrmidon is my favorite ship right now. Its just awesome. Best battlecruiser in the game. I would go as far as to say it may need a nerf. Anyone using it with NOS is just..just terrible. Nos is not the way to use this ship. Neither is small guns. With my current Myrmidon setup I dont really think most battleships could break my tank before they die (my myrmidon does more DPS than my Machariel without cruise launchers).
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.17 14:02:00 - [83] Originally by: BANDID I dont get the author all the new BC are exellent ships in the right hands and with the rights skills (imo get in a tier 2 BC when having BC lvl 5 for max bonus) if not skilled enough stop whining get in a cyclone , ferox or brutix prophecy they are fine and deadly ships allso just because (i think u are unexperianced in pvp and skill wise) dont whine about ships ive seen a Myr Tank 2 BS and kill both ive seen a Hurricane do the Same (it was mine) so pls stop talking or make topics about this ship is bad or that ship is bad Every ship is good for the right purpose. And Yeah Myr is an UBER PVE/NPC ship im loving it! Train ure drones skills dude !!! T2 heavy are IMBA Glad to see you have not read a thing. Tibrius archer = Heavy drone 5 Gallante Drone spec 4 Drone interfacing 5. That means 466 Ogre 2 DPS. I am not underskilled with gallante or droneships. I will say this once more. I AM NOT UNDERSKILLED AND COMPLAINING ABOUT I CAN'T USE A SHIP. Why are people so hung up about trying to somehow suggest that I tried to use the myrm and was angry because I could not and thus decided to make a hate post. Its the kind off thing people who think I am doing this would do themselves. I am not you. All the new BC's are not equally awsome. The harbringer would be except that its main racial boosts are in laser damage and long term tanking(not so much in the harbringer I will agree) The harbringer represents the Amarr medium criuser range pulse laser carnage advantage espcially with that damage bonus. Problem is NOS (which is raped en-mass) will switch off the harbringer very quickly if it tanks or ganks. Its not like the old days where it was accepted that the Hargbringer or any amarr/Blaster gallante pilot could think: "NOSing bastards I am going to fit 6 heat sink'2s and see if they can switch me off before there floating in a pod..." Oh and don't say a harbringer can play the NOS game too as amarr never have enough CPU. And scarecly have the healthy none highslot damage that gallante droneships have. myrm with no hybrid bonus and lots of CPU is a nod to the NOS game.
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.17 14:14:00 - [84] Originally by: smallgreenblur P.S. Perhaps a better name for this thread would be 'the myrm is too versitile, give it a more specific role'. If you want that. sgb Fair point. But I wanted to make people think about the myrm and is slot layout and bonuses and see why its a crap ship. I am trying to get across my annoyance of the Dev thinking behind the myrm design... moving away from racial ships (no 5% damage). I stand by my title. You managed to understand yourself. So have a few others. Still they are many people who I suspect are 16yrs old who feel a ship is not crap even if it overpowers core game mechanics and logic as long as they can fly it. saying there fav new ship is crap puts them into flame mode.... ***************************************** "Get in my way and I will burn your fleet from stem to stern"
Eva Archer	Posted - 2007.02.17 14:19:00 - [85] Originally by: Tibrius Archer Originally by: smallgreenblur P.S. Perhaps a better name for this thread would be 'the myrm is too versitile, give it a more specific role'. If you want that. sgb Fair point. But I wanted to make people think about the myrm and is slot layout and bonuses and see why its a crap ship. I am trying to get across my annoyance of the Dev thinking behind the myrm design... moving away from racial ships (no 5% damage). I stand by my title. You managed to understand yourself. So have a few others. Still they are many people who I suspect are 16yrs old who feel a ship is not crap even if it overpowers core game mechanics and logic as long as they can fly it. saying there fav new ship is crap puts them into flame mode.... Grow up big brother, forums around the world are all just like this. People with there finger on the flame/none-understanding button so stop *****ing that everyone is not playing along with your post how you wanted.
Serkis Caldari The Funkalistic SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 14:32:00 - [86] The myrm is good! Nerf it!

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