How many times has this been said? Weren't people going to quit in droves after fozziesov, Injectors dropped, etc. Now we have a war going with log-in figures over 40k. People are getting fights and have more flexibility over their skill queue to get back in the game.

But from where is this SP coming? SP Fairies? Do we need other fairies in space, other than me?

SP is tied to your personal brain attributes. It can come in some injectors and boosters. But this proposed system is like fairies in space! I am the only fairy you need in space!

But from where is this SP coming? SP Fairies?

Yeah it's weird. Every time I log on I've got more SP than when I logged off

With how it's proposed, they aren't rewarding players for being active. They are rewarding them for logging each character in for a minute.

If this goes live in this form, I'll just make sure that each one of my accounts has all 3 character slots used and log them out in a belt. That way, I just need to log in, target, hit F1, log out. 30k SP per account and day for doing nothing beyond logging in for a minute. After a couple of weeks, I can just extract and sell. What a great deal of activity and content, right?

So you mean that people who can't spend 30 minutes or one hour ingame should not bother to log in? What do you have against busy people?

No, I think people shouldn't be made to log in to do the same mindless stuff every ******* day. Especially if they don't have the time.

People who don't have much time and still want to do mindless work for whatever ******* reason can do several things already in Eve. They can just login to update their market orders or move their PI extractor heads. And they don't even need to do that every day if they don't have time to play.

What purpose does killing the rat serve in this anyway? Is this just a sad alibi for content? Just killing one random rat is not exacly engaging gameplay after all. Why not cut the hypocrisy and give out the reward for just logging in for a minute? Not that I'd be ok with that either, but that way at least people can do what they like in the game, and still get the reward.

The idea is just lazy and uninspired. If they want to implement a daily reward system, they could at least put some effort into it and make it at least somewhat entertaining and interesting.

This boils down to "people shouldn't".

No, it boils down to "people shouldn't be made to".

It's all about choice - with this system you don't really have one. It's by far the highest reward you can get for a minute of gametime, second to maybe trading. But then again, trading will not be that effective right from the start - you have to build that up.

So, If I had just a couple of minutes, and had the choice between updating my PI, updating my measly 500k profit market orders or killing a rat just to grab the daily reward, I'd be stupid not to go for the latter, as it rewards a whopping 10k SP per character.

As I said earlier - change the rewards to LP of some sort, bring them in line with other activities and make the possible daily tasks more varied, and I'll be fine with this. If you don't have much time to play and still want to do something that gets you something, you can do it. If you however don't feel like grinding senseless tasks, you can just ignore it, get your money elsewhere and buy the LP store items off the market if you want them.

With how it's proposed, they aren't rewarding players for being active. They are rewarding them for logging each character in for a minute.

If this goes live in this form, I'll just make sure that each one of my accounts has all 3 character slots used and log them out in a belt. That way, I just need to log in, target, hit F1, log out. 30k SP per account and day for doing nothing beyond logging in for a minute. After a couple of weeks, I can just extract and sell. What a great deal of activity and content, right?

IMHO it's just a way to help fresh players. After a year it's nice but not really important to climb mount Skillpoint fast. After a year you have a solid stock of different things you can do. So this helps new players to get there faster by doing some grinding.

I will bet that most complains comes from older players. This daily SPs help mostly new players to start faster. I'm a 3 month old char and I'm looking at 120+d of of just more or less basic INT/MEM skillqueue. No ships in there and without the reskill this would be 150+d. At the end of that queue I will start the Will/Perc skills that will take a lot longer. Every SP is welcome to shorten that line.
Even if people sell these point for plex it will just raise the price for plex as this will not create a greater number of PLEX so you can take higher prices.

a small perk that will benefit newer players and those that can't afford dual training . it's a choice , not mandatory . you're not 'losing out' if you decide it's not worth your time .

skill points are a commodity now , like any other . you can do this 'daily' (the bad name the propaganda experts have bestowed it) or buy a skill injector .

the 'sp from thin air' argument is crap ; if you need lore to make you feel better , make something up . the 'one minute' to find a high sec rat is crap also ; undock your jita alt and try to find a rat with a couple thousand others doing the same thing .

the only down side i see is people begging to be fleeted so they can kill their daily rat . which will become a new mini-profession running level ones a jump or two out of market hubs . and there will be much more interaction , as those hated spammers and scammers die en masse on the undock .

of course , the space-rich will object to having to dirty their hands . shooting red crosses . the horror ..

...IMHO it's just a way to help fresh players.

That is a by-product, not the intent. The primary purpose of this change is to increase the number of active online players that CCP can report.

And with this, it's barely going to work. If every account in Eve had 3 chars, and they would all log in for a minute every day (which won't happen) this will raise the daily average by a bit more than 1000, which is less than stellar. Sure, some players might stay logged after that, but most players won't even bother after a while, because it will become tedious rather quickly.

If they want players to play the game, they should *gasp* add content to the game. Ludicrous idea, I know.

And with this, it's barely going to work. If every account in Eve had 3 chars, and they would all log in for a minute every day (which won't happen) this will raise the daily average by a bit more than 1000, which is less than stellar. Sure, some players might stay logged after that, but most players won't even bother after a while, because it will become tedious rather quickly.

If they want players to play the game, they should *gasp* add content to the game. Ludicrous idea, I know.