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Naate
Minmatar The Elear
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Posted - 2007.02.16 22:07:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Motivated Prophet
Originally by: Shin Ra Making a profit and running a legit business is not proof your are not a scam. Its not black and white like that.
You accused me of being a Ponzi scheme. I am clearly, PROVEABLY, not. If you'd like to say that I will take the money and run tomorrow, then say that. Don't call me a Ponzi when elementary investigation would show that that assertion is incorrect.
Originally by: Shin Ra For all my suspicions about Proton, he at least handles my criticism well while has put my mind at ease. Your reply just worries me.
You are neither a customer, nor, AFAIK, an investor. You have chosen not to use the "questions, comments and concerns go here!" pre-launch of my IPO to voice your concerns, instead attacking the active thread. I gave in to you once before, and posted the BIG BOLD LETTERS in both my Stage 1 and Stage 2 IPO threads. My patience for your trolling is at an end. Post elsewhere.
MP
And that about sum's up my thoughts on the matter too. Much to my detriment I did not know MP during the release of Zerodot, so I missed out there. But since then I've had nothing but good dealings with him and trust him implicitly. I've seen much of the work going on 'behind the scenes' to get this up and running, the research of the BPOs and general logistics.
Not only are the materials real and available, I know MP has the time, materials, and acuity to make a real go of this. If I was capable of personally investing any more at this time, I would.
I'm fully aware I'm a non-factor so far as EVE and trading goes, there is no reason to trust me any further than the next fellow. So like PP said above, people will chose to invest or not on their own, regardless of what we say. But I felt this had to be said nonetheless.
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TheDevilsJury
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.16 23:30:00 -
[32]
I may be blind because I can't find this anywhere, but what is the expected dividend, when will it start and how often will it be paid?
^^^^ You can hide, but you can't run. ^^^^ |

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.02.17 13:10:00 -
[33]
Originally by: TheDevilsJury I may be blind because I can't find this anywhere, but what is the expected dividend, when will it start and how often will it be paid?
This dividend will be paid monthly. I'll hit the button on or around the 15th, so that I have plenty of time to recover from the ZERO. inventory I have to do at the start of each month. As to expected dividends, those depend entirely on the number of orders I have and the success of my market manipulation. Furthermore, they may range wildly from month to month--if I sell something in June at twice the price I bought it in January, because of the way I do my accounting, that's a huge cash influx.
Now, all that said, keep in mind that I'm probably going to be the biggest single shareholder in this venture; if the dividends aren't up to snuff, I'll start calling for new management. 
MP
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:32:00 -
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If you run a totalyl legit business as a front for a scam then its entirely possible. You cannot proove you are not going to be a scam, in the same way I cannot proove you are a scam. There are much more things to condier.
I would like to know:
If, after this IPO is complete, you sold all your own shares (if any) and all the corps assets and took all the money in the corp wallet, how much isk could you run away with?
You can call me a troll all you want, if you feel anything I'm saying breaks the forum rules please mail [email protected] . From my point of view, getting all up in arms about this doesn't look good. I have a whole array of alts that handle my isk, if I did invest in your corp, you wouldn't know about it. But, there mere fact I'm asking these questions is not because I have nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon, its because I have an interest in the outcome. Read into that what you will. But please answer my first question.
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Mark Weston
Caldari The Graduates Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.02.17 14:34:00 -
[35]
Reserve me 250 shares please. ISK sent - now.
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Trotski II
Rasta Tropical Club
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Posted - 2007.02.17 19:07:00 -
[36]
I have sent the 300 million now.
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LancerSix
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.17 22:52:00 -
[37]
Edited by: LancerSix on 17/02/2007 22:49:05 I'm sorry, but I feel need to comment on Shin Ra's trolling here.
For those of you that don't know, Shin Ra is the CEO of Burn Eden, basically what amounts to EVE's worst griefer corp, hell bent on the idea of pulling every crummy tactic to "win". And by "win", they mean cause as much grief to everyone they possibly can. Now, I hate to be the one pulling credibility here, but... If you play the game of the Markets like you play PVP, I don't trust you as far as I can throw you .
So please, if you are coming here trying to destroy the honor of a completely honest business man, look first at who you are.
I have nothing but trust for MP and his operation. I put a pretty large (at least by my standards) sum of money into Zerodot, and it has been paying nicely. I have also seen the behind-the-scenes goings on, and know they are nothing but legitimate. And for those of you who will say I'm one of MP's alts, I would me more than happy to verify that on TS.
Warning: Sig highly outdated. |

Naate
Minmatar The Elear
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:23:00 -
[38]
Agreed with Lancer, and also willing to verify not an alt via TS if anyone is that curious.
To MP: Money has now been transferred to Massive Prophet. :)
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: LancerSix Edited by: LancerSix on 17/02/2007 22:49:05 I'm sorry, but I feel need to comment on Shin Ra's trolling here.
For those of you that don't know, Shin Ra is the CEO of Burn Eden, basically what amounts to EVE's worst griefer corp, hell bent on the idea of pulling every crummy tactic to "win". And by "win", they mean cause as much grief to everyone they possibly can. Now, I hate to be the one pulling credibility here, but... If you play the game of the Markets like you play PVP, I don't trust you as far as I can throw you .
So please, if you are coming here trying to destroy the honor of a completely honest business man, look first at who you are.
Your recommendation of MP was quite nice and well stated. Thank you for your input.
As for Shin Ra being a troll who you shouldn't trust:
(1) He never asked for your trust, and in fact numerous times has said that you can't trust him because he doesn't care much about his reputation.
(2) He's a very reliable litmus test for IPOs. When a large IPO starts up, he and DS are usually the first two there demanding answers to certain questions. I've always found these grills very helpful in deciding whether to invest or not, and I haven't gotten burned yet, in no small part due to Shin Ra.
(3) He knows what he's talking about. It is as simple as that. He's been contributing on these forums for as long as I've been reading them, he's got insights that other people don't, and most people recognize him as an authority on questioning budding businessmen.
I like his contributions, I like the fact that BE hosts Down-time TS, I like the seriousness with which they approach the game, and I like Shin Ra being a hardass to budding IPOs. Sure, he's a smacktard on the CAOD forums from time to time, and BE isn't the funnest corp in EVE to fight against, but that bears absolutely no correlation to his input here. *snip* Sig not appropriate. Please email [email protected] linking the sig to find out why -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.17 23:57:00 -
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A caveat:
I am a shareholder of at least a small amount of (declared) shares, which you can verify in previous threads.
I would like to hear your answer(s) to Shin Ra's question(s), please, particularly an updated answer to the "How much could you steal?" question.
And no, I am not trying to antagonize you, please don't be offended. You have done some very stellar (pun intended) work so far, and I'd like to see it continue. *snip* Sig not appropriate. Please email [email protected] linking the sig to find out why -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
I must admit, I like the violet. |

LancerSix
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.18 05:05:00 -
[41]
All valid points, although what prompted my response was more the fact that I viewed it as unprovoked mudslinging more than constructive market discussion.
With that said, MP's answer to that question is linked in his first post, where it says "Big Bold Letters". I will poke him in-game to see if any changes need to be made to that statement to reflect this new IPO.
Warning: Sig highly outdated. |

Jon Asus
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Posted - 2007.02.18 13:14:00 -
[42]
Money sent for 20 shares.
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.02.18 15:12:00 -
[43]
All pending shares have been transferred, original post will be updated in 3... 2... 1....
MP
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Naate
Minmatar The Elear
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Posted - 2007.02.19 01:26:00 -
[44]
Received. :) Many thanks, MP.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.02.19 16:16:00 -
[45]
at 1m/share, put me down for 50 shares. i'll send you the isk when i log on tonight (unless the wife distracts me and i forget, in which case, it might be a tad later tonight).
will this phase 2 continue until around 10b is raised? |

Ezoran DuBlaidd
Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.02.19 16:18:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd at 1m/share, put me down for 50 shares. i'll send you the isk when i log on tonight (unless the wife distracts me and i forget, in which case, it might be a tad later tonight).
will this phase 2 continue until around 10b is raised?
edited: reason i ask is that i might put a tad more in later, i'm still far from being a 'big fish' in the ocean, and try to not invest more than 100m in any one stock/share venture. |

Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.02.19 23:42:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Motivated Prophet on 19/02/2007 23:39:57
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd at 1m/share, put me down for 50 shares. i'll send you the isk when i log on tonight (unless the wife distracts me and i forget, in which case, it might be a tad later tonight).
will this phase 2 continue until around 10b is raised?
Phase 2 will stay open until the entirety of the allocated IPO block has been sold.
Edit: And in the meantime, any dividends that are paid prior to a sell-out will be rolled back into the corp.
MP
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Darkwolfi
Conisor Excavations Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.20 02:27:00 -
[48]
50 shares please
money sent
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Kahn Mer
Torchwood Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.20 03:13:00 -
[49]
Would like to reserve 100 shares please. ISK will be sent in the morning as I work the graveyard shift 
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Xantheris
Caldari Anvil Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.20 13:43:00 -
[50]
I would like to reserve 40 shares please. Money sent to Massive Prophet already.
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.02.20 18:02:00 -
[51]
Shares transferred. 
MP
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Nebuchadnezzar I
Shih Yang Tong
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Posted - 2007.02.21 16:16:00 -
[52]
Hmm, not as much traffic as i'd expect (bump)
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.02.23 00:05:00 -
[53]
Ran into some extra isk, put me down for 500mil worth what ever that is... -----------------------------------------------
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=439797Cli |

Pang Grohl
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.23 00:25:00 -
[54]
Reserve 20 shares please.
Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting) |

Sammell
Amarr Symptom Of The Universe Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 04:22:00 -
[55]
Reserve 30 shares...isk incoming
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Khon Shulga
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Posted - 2007.02.24 14:49:00 -
[56]
Put me down for 80 shares please- I'll send the isk to the character you indicated in a moment.
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Akasma Rina
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Posted - 2007.02.24 15:04:00 -
[57]
I will take 37 shares please, money sent to Motivated Prophet at 1500 EVE time.
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Nummb
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Posted - 2007.02.24 15:11:00 -
[58]
100 shares for me, money sent already.
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.02.24 15:31:00 -
[59]
Invasion of the NPC-corp investors! 
All paid-for shares have been transferred. 
MP
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TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs. |

Khon Shulga
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Posted - 2007.02.25 03:19:00 -
[60]
20 more for me, then I'm done.
Maybe next time I post I'll have a corp tag.
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