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Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.15 18:10:00 - [1] The pre-launch thread is located here. The Stage 1 thread is located here. The prospectus is located over there, and in these posts for those who don't like the PDF format. BIG BOLD LETTERS Stage 2 Par Value: 1,000,000 isk Stage 1 Reserved: 4,000/25,000 The current size of Stage 2 is determined by three factors: The cost of current bulk-delivery contracts, carried out over a month Forward-looking estimates of the future values for #1 10b for market speculation and investment The factor that's (probably) going to get the most attention is the market speculation. Here's the theory. Due to the glories of the Margin Trading skill, not just our isk need, but our isk USE spikes when our orders are filled and we're about to produce the modules, and then rapidly declines. Similarly, our isk usage spikes higher, and then is brought down by a freighter/industrial run to grab up all the meltable loot we've bought. There's around 10b isk that will be in use continuously to feed our compression and decompression core business. Another 5b will be needed at peak times. Rather than let 5b sit idle, I can work with the market to generate return on the isk. Doing so, however, can mean holding stock for periods longer than the frequency of isk-usage spikes. 10b set aside for market manipulation covers that. Additionally, that gives us room to grow--looking six months or a year down the road, I can scale back market activities to keep (de)compression activities running at full speed. Enough about the budget, through. Let's talk brass tacks. The first TINY. shares sold out in less than six hours. I feel that wasn't fair to other investors who might have wanted in on these shares at IPO prices. For that reason, no reservations will be accepted prior to 00:00 EVE Time. You may note that 4,000 shares are already reserved. I reserved those early for myself, because I'm special. At this time, I am buying back TINY. shares in any quantity at 949,999.99 isk apiece. MP : I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and goshdarnit, people like me!
Votee	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:39:00 - [2] Can you provide some information about the current operations, eg. profit, dividend etc. regards, Votee
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Votee Can you provide some information about the current operations, eg. profit, dividend etc. regards, Votee Month 1 was used to get characters bought, skills trained, BPO's whipped into shape, and to get some copies run off of them. As it is, several BPO's will still be in research for another two or three days. There are no profits or dividends from Month 1; I'm sure if I did a full accounting of assets, I'd find that we took a (small) net loss for the month due to fees. MP
Jon Asus	Posted - 2007.02.15 20:08:00 - [4] What precautions are there to stop the shares selling out apart from waiting until 00.00 eve time? I'd just like to know if I've got to stay-up until 12pm to buy shares or not.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.15 22:18:00 - [5] Edited by: Motivated Prophet on 15/02/2007 22:22:06 Originally by: Jon Asus What precautions are there to stop the shares selling out apart from waiting until 00.00 eve time? Sorry, there are none. Treat it like an auction where you want to snipe-bid right at the end, except here, you want to snipe-bid at the beginning! MP
Cerwyn Taraman Minmatar Phoenix Tech Industries Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:01:00 - [6] Reserving 150 shares please! Thanks, Cerwyn
Naate	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:02:00 - [7] Hello there! I would like to reserver 250 shares in my name please. I can garauntee purchase of those. If you will allow, could I tentatively reserve another 50 for a 300 total? Chances are high (>80%) I can make the full 300 in time. If this isn't possible, still put me down for the 250. :)
Molotka Amarr A.W.M	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:05:00 - [8] 200 shares, please. Also, be sure to contact me about the order we discussed the other night.
c1iche	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:06:00 - [9] 100 please
Auri Hella The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:08:00 - [10] Reserving 400 shares, thanks.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:19:00 - [11] Naate, I'll put you down for the full 300. M, I've got BPO's in research now for you, and others are copying. Buy orders for minerals went up last night. This post will be my official reservation of 4,000 shares for myself. MP
Auri Hella The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:29:00 - [12] I must be stupid, but could you post the character the money needs to be sent to? I couldn't find it myself. Probably because it's past 1 AM and I'm tired (but I wanted in on this one so I have only myself to blame).
Naate Minmatar The Elear	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:43:00 - [13] I would like to reserve a further 50 shares, if I may on top of the existing 300. Just had a rather nice cash injection. :) (Total shares requested: 350. Currently reserved: 300) Then that will likely do me for this offering, if I wish to be able to continue production on my own in addition! ;)
Trotski II Rasta Tropical Club	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:44:00 - [14] Reserve 300 shares for me. I suppose the money is not to sent right now or is it? Will it be sent to Motivated Prophet? Do you plan to keep having a buy back option a few % below IPO price or is it just a thing you did now?
Mular Sumnar Gallente Espire	Posted - 2007.02.16 01:30:00 - [15] Reserving 250 shares.
Executive P	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:27:00 - [16] I would like to reserve 100 please
Dalknor Ithilistar	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:39:00 - [17] I would like to reserve 20 shares, please...
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.16 04:16:00 - [18] Originally by: Auri Hella I must be stupid, but could you post the character the money needs to be sent to? I couldn't find it myself. Probably because it's past 1 AM and I'm tired (but I wanted in on this one so I have only myself to blame). Oops, thank you! ISK to Massive Prophet, please (check the spelling and check the corp before you send it!). If you've already sent isk to Motivated, no worries, I'll transfer it over. MP
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.16 13:03:00 - [19] All paid-for shares have been transferred. MP
Jon Asus	Posted - 2007.02.16 15:21:00 - [20] I'll have 20 shares please.
Jon Asus	Posted - 2007.02.16 15:21:00 - [21] I'll have 20 shares please.
Shintoko Akahoshi Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:43:00 - [22] 500 shares for me, please. Omerta Syndicate Biotechnical Research
Shin Ra BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.16 19:04:00 - [23] Proton Power stated that he thought your second IPO was suspicious and if you did another IP he would be "seriously worried". Would here care to comment? Personally, I have serious doubts about your integrity as it is. This does not bode well for my apprehension. Seriously, why are you people throwing your money at this. It has all the markings of a ponzai scheme.
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.16 19:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Shin Ra Proton Power stated that he thought your second IPO was suspicious and if you did another IP he would be "seriously worried". Would here care to comment? Personally, I have serious doubts about your integrity as it is. This does not bode well for my apprehension. Seriously, why are you people throwing your money at this. It has all the markings of a ponzai scheme. This does worry me, and I will not and have not invested into this one. I trust MP enough to not sell my current shares, but would like to see current ventures grow before more isk is asked for. But MP does as he wants, its his thing and people will invest no matter what I think nor what you think. ----------------------------------------------- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=439797Cli
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.16 19:21:00 - [25] Originally by: Shin Ra Proton Power stated that he thought your second IPO was suspicious and if you did another IP he would be "seriously worried". Would here care to comment? Personally, I have serious doubts about your integrity as it is. This does not bode well for my apprehension. Seriously, why are you people throwing your money at this. It has all the markings of a ponzai scheme. What the hell? He stated he was concerned if I started up another corp after these two, because he didn't think I could run more than these two. Go back and read my original prospectus; this Stage 2 funding was planned and public at the time he made that statement. Also, it's Ponzi, not ponzai. Named after Charles Ponzi. There's an excellent Wikipedia article. If you'd like to question my guy in charge of buying for the company whether or not we're a legitimate business, I can arrange a meeting. If you'd like to ask one of the major investors with Junior Accountant access to ZERO.'s wallet to perform an audit, that's fine. If you feel the need to do a complete search going back three months on all my transactions that aren't directly logged in the journal (such as the data interface one), I can give you names and timestamps from my chat and contract logs. But if you'd like to complain simply because I'm starting up a second enterprise? If you feel the need to accuse me of being a Ponzi scheme when a half-dozen people can PROVE that ZERO. is making money, and at least two of the investors in TINY. have seen the BPO's in research? If you continually claim that Proton Power is my alt, and then use his statements to attack me? If you want to do any or all of that, I have a request: go away. Summary: Investigation, audit, and suspicion? Trust but verify? Great. Misinformed speculation, ad hominem, and misquoting? Unacceptable. MP
Auri Hella The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.16 19:22:00 - [26] There's always risk. If I invent the money here and MP runs off with it all, or I put it in PvP ships and lose them which would be the other alternative, I don't really care much. I have enough to fund myself either way. Granted I'll have less if this is a scam. But I have no money in ZERO. so I guess I'm in just as much danger as anyone who jumped on that and is now having doubts. In the end, it's virtual money in a friggin' game, hehe.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.16 21:06:00 - [27] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Originally by: Shin Ra Proton Power stated that he thought your second IPO was suspicious and if you did another IP he would be "seriously worried". Would here care to comment? Personally, I have serious doubts about your integrity as it is. This does not bode well for my apprehension. Seriously, why are you people throwing your money at this. It has all the markings of a ponzai scheme. What the hell? He stated he was concerned if I started up another corp after these two, because he didn't think I could run more than these two. Go back and read my original prospectus; this Stage 2 funding was planned and public at the time he made that statement. Also, it's Ponzi, not ponzai. Named after Charles Ponzi. There's an excellent Wikipedia article. If you'd like to question my guy in charge of buying for the company whether or not we're a legitimate business, I can arrange a meeting. If you'd like to ask one of the major investors with Junior Accountant access to ZERO.'s wallet to perform an audit, that's fine. If you feel the need to do a complete search going back three months on all my transactions that aren't directly logged in the journal (such as the data interface one), I can give you names and timestamps from my chat and contract logs. But if you'd like to complain simply because I'm starting up a second enterprise? If you feel the need to accuse me of being a Ponzi scheme when a half-dozen people can PROVE that ZERO. is making money, and at least two of the investors in TINY. have seen the BPO's in research? If you continually claim that Proton Power is my alt, and then use his statements to attack me? If you want to do any or all of that, I have a request: go away. Summary: Investigation, audit, and suspicion? Trust but verify? Great. Misinformed speculation, ad hominem, and misquoting? Unacceptable. MP I spoke with proton a while ago, he told me who your mains were and I believe him. Suspicion - not entirely unfounded don't you think. It does have all the hallmarks of a ponzai scheme. Making a profit and running a legit business is not proof your are not a scam. Its not black and white like that. For all my suspicions about Proton, he at least handles my criticism well while has put my mind at ease. Your reply just worries me.
Azraelion Nerevar Gallente PLuSQuAMPERFEkT iNc	Posted - 2007.02.16 21:30:00 - [28] Originally by: Shin Ra I spoke with proton a while ago, he told me who your mains were and I believe him. Suspicion - not entirely unfounded don't you think. It does have all the hallmarks of a ponzai scheme. Making a profit and running a legit business is not proof your are not a scam. Its not black and white like that. For all my suspicions about Proton, he at least handles my criticism well while has put my mind at ease. Your reply just worries me. I'm sorry, but the bolded statement confuses me. According to Merriam-Webster's, a scam is: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation How can Zerodot which is, as you put it, a legit buisness, be a scam? The two terms are in direct contradiction. I'm sorry if this is the wrong impression - and it may well be, I haven't had the opportunity to read that many of your posts - but it seems more that you have a grudge against MP than any factual concern with his buisness plan. You consistantly insist that it has "all the hallmarks of a scam" and insult his character, and yet you don't provide any indication of what these "hallmarks" might be. I would recommend you either drop or support your accusations. Apologies if you did post any reasons and I missed them. Cheers, Azraelion Nerevar
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.16 21:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Shin Ra Making a profit and running a legit business is not proof your are not a scam. Its not black and white like that. You accused me of being a Ponzi scheme. I am clearly, PROVEABLY, not. If you'd like to say that I will take the money and run tomorrow, then say that. Don't call me a Ponzi when elementary investigation would show that that assertion is incorrect. Originally by: Shin Ra For all my suspicions about Proton, he at least handles my criticism well while has put my mind at ease. Your reply just worries me. You are neither a customer, nor, AFAIK, an investor. You have chosen not to use the "questions, comments and concerns go here!" pre-launch of my IPO to voice your concerns, instead attacking the active thread. I gave in to you once before, and posted the BIG BOLD LETTERS in both my Stage 1 and Stage 2 IPO threads. My patience for your trolling is at an end. Post elsewhere. MP
Preston FateForger Caldari The Elear	Posted - 2007.02.16 21:35:00 - [30] Put me down for 200 shares.
Naate Minmatar The Elear	Posted - 2007.02.16 22:07:00 - [31] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Originally by: Shin Ra Making a profit and running a legit business is not proof your are not a scam. Its not black and white like that. You accused me of being a Ponzi scheme. I am clearly, PROVEABLY, not. If you'd like to say that I will take the money and run tomorrow, then say that. Don't call me a Ponzi when elementary investigation would show that that assertion is incorrect. Originally by: Shin Ra For all my suspicions about Proton, he at least handles my criticism well while has put my mind at ease. Your reply just worries me. You are neither a customer, nor, AFAIK, an investor. You have chosen not to use the "questions, comments and concerns go here!" pre-launch of my IPO to voice your concerns, instead attacking the active thread. I gave in to you once before, and posted the BIG BOLD LETTERS in both my Stage 1 and Stage 2 IPO threads. My patience for your trolling is at an end. Post elsewhere. MP And that about sum's up my thoughts on the matter too. Much to my detriment I did not know MP during the release of Zerodot, so I missed out there. But since then I've had nothing but good dealings with him and trust him implicitly. I've seen much of the work going on 'behind the scenes' to get this up and running, the research of the BPOs and general logistics. Not only are the materials real and available, I know MP has the time, materials, and acuity to make a real go of this. If I was capable of personally investing any more at this time, I would. I'm fully aware I'm a non-factor so far as EVE and trading goes, there is no reason to trust me any further than the next fellow. So like PP said above, people will chose to invest or not on their own, regardless of what we say. But I felt this had to be said nonetheless.
TheDevilsJury principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.16 23:30:00 - [32] I may be blind because I can't find this anywhere, but what is the expected dividend, when will it start and how often will it be paid? ^^^^ You can hide, but you can't run. ^^^^
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.17 13:10:00 - [33] Originally by: TheDevilsJury I may be blind because I can't find this anywhere, but what is the expected dividend, when will it start and how often will it be paid? This dividend will be paid monthly. I'll hit the button on or around the 15th, so that I have plenty of time to recover from the ZERO. inventory I have to do at the start of each month. As to expected dividends, those depend entirely on the number of orders I have and the success of my market manipulation. Furthermore, they may range wildly from month to month--if I sell something in June at twice the price I bought it in January, because of the way I do my accounting, that's a huge cash influx. Now, all that said, keep in mind that I'm probably going to be the biggest single shareholder in this venture; if the dividends aren't up to snuff, I'll start calling for new management. MP
Shin Ra BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.17 14:32:00 - [34] If you run a totalyl legit business as a front for a scam then its entirely possible. You cannot proove you are not going to be a scam, in the same way I cannot proove you are a scam. There are much more things to condier. I would like to know: If, after this IPO is complete, you sold all your own shares (if any) and all the corps assets and took all the money in the corp wallet, how much isk could you run away with? You can call me a troll all you want, if you feel anything I'm saying breaks the forum rules please mail [email protected] . From my point of view, getting all up in arms about this doesn't look good. I have a whole array of alts that handle my isk, if I did invest in your corp, you wouldn't know about it. But, there mere fact I'm asking these questions is not because I have nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon, its because I have an interest in the outcome. Read into that what you will. But please answer my first question.
Mark Weston Caldari The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.17 14:34:00 - [35] Reserve me 250 shares please. ISK sent - now. New to EVE? Join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Trotski II Rasta Tropical Club	Posted - 2007.02.17 19:07:00 - [36] I have sent the 300 million now.
LancerSix Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.02.17 22:52:00 - [37] Edited by: LancerSix on 17/02/2007 22:49:05 I'm sorry, but I feel need to comment on Shin Ra's trolling here. For those of you that don't know, Shin Ra is the CEO of Burn Eden, basically what amounts to EVE's worst griefer corp, hell bent on the idea of pulling every crummy tactic to "win". And by "win", they mean cause as much grief to everyone they possibly can. Now, I hate to be the one pulling credibility here, but... If you play the game of the Markets like you play PVP, I don't trust you as far as I can throw you . So please, if you are coming here trying to destroy the honor of a completely honest business man, look first at who you are. I have nothing but trust for MP and his operation. I put a pretty large (at least by my standards) sum of money into Zerodot, and it has been paying nicely. I have also seen the behind-the-scenes goings on, and know they are nothing but legitimate. And for those of you who will say I'm one of MP's alts, I would me more than happy to verify that on TS. Warning: Sig highly outdated.
Naate Minmatar The Elear	Posted - 2007.02.17 23:23:00 - [38] Agreed with Lancer, and also willing to verify not an alt via TS if anyone is that curious. To MP: Money has now been transferred to Massive Prophet. :)
David H'Levi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.17 23:47:00 - [39] Originally by: LancerSix Edited by: LancerSix on 17/02/2007 22:49:05 I'm sorry, but I feel need to comment on Shin Ra's trolling here. For those of you that don't know, Shin Ra is the CEO of Burn Eden, basically what amounts to EVE's worst griefer corp, hell bent on the idea of pulling every crummy tactic to "win". And by "win", they mean cause as much grief to everyone they possibly can. Now, I hate to be the one pulling credibility here, but... If you play the game of the Markets like you play PVP, I don't trust you as far as I can throw you . So please, if you are coming here trying to destroy the honor of a completely honest business man, look first at who you are. Your recommendation of MP was quite nice and well stated. Thank you for your input. As for Shin Ra being a troll who you shouldn't trust: (1) He never asked for your trust, and in fact numerous times has said that you can't trust him because he doesn't care much about his reputation. (2) He's a very reliable litmus test for IPOs. When a large IPO starts up, he and DS are usually the first two there demanding answers to certain questions. I've always found these grills very helpful in deciding whether to invest or not, and I haven't gotten burned yet, in no small part due to Shin Ra. (3) He knows what he's talking about. It is as simple as that. He's been contributing on these forums for as long as I've been reading them, he's got insights that other people don't, and most people recognize him as an authority on questioning budding businessmen. I like his contributions, I like the fact that BE hosts Down-time TS, I like the seriousness with which they approach the game, and I like Shin Ra being a hardass to budding IPOs. Sure, he's a smacktard on the CAOD forums from time to time, and BE isn't the funnest corp in EVE to fight against, but that bears absolutely no correlation to his input here. snip Sig not appropriate. Please email [email protected] linking the sig to find out why -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) I must admit, I like the violet.
David H'Levi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.17 23:57:00 - [40] A caveat: I am a shareholder of at least a small amount of (declared) shares, which you can verify in previous threads. I would like to hear your answer(s) to Shin Ra's question(s), please, particularly an updated answer to the "How much could you steal?" question. And no, I am not trying to antagonize you, please don't be offended. You have done some very stellar (pun intended) work so far, and I'd like to see it continue. snip Sig not appropriate. Please email [email protected] linking the sig to find out why -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) I must admit, I like the violet.
LancerSix Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.02.18 05:05:00 - [41] All valid points, although what prompted my response was more the fact that I viewed it as unprovoked mudslinging more than constructive market discussion. With that said, MP's answer to that question is linked in his first post, where it says "Big Bold Letters". I will poke him in-game to see if any changes need to be made to that statement to reflect this new IPO. Warning: Sig highly outdated.
Jon Asus	Posted - 2007.02.18 13:14:00 - [42] Money sent for 20 shares.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.18 15:12:00 - [43] All pending shares have been transferred, original post will be updated in 3... 2... 1.... MP
Naate Minmatar The Elear	Posted - 2007.02.19 01:26:00 - [44] Received. :) Many thanks, MP.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.19 16:16:00 - [45] at 1m/share, put me down for 50 shares. i'll send you the isk when i log on tonight (unless the wife distracts me and i forget, in which case, it might be a tad later tonight). will this phase 2 continue until around 10b is raised?
Ezoran DuBlaidd Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.19 16:18:00 - [46] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd at 1m/share, put me down for 50 shares. i'll send you the isk when i log on tonight (unless the wife distracts me and i forget, in which case, it might be a tad later tonight). will this phase 2 continue until around 10b is raised? edited: reason i ask is that i might put a tad more in later, i'm still far from being a 'big fish' in the ocean, and try to not invest more than 100m in any one stock/share venture.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.19 23:42:00 - [47] Edited by: Motivated Prophet on 19/02/2007 23:39:57 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd at 1m/share, put me down for 50 shares. i'll send you the isk when i log on tonight (unless the wife distracts me and i forget, in which case, it might be a tad later tonight). will this phase 2 continue until around 10b is raised? Phase 2 will stay open until the entirety of the allocated IPO block has been sold. Edit: And in the meantime, any dividends that are paid prior to a sell-out will be rolled back into the corp. MP
Darkwolfi Conisor Excavations Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.20 02:27:00 - [48] 50 shares please money sent
Kahn Mer Torchwood Industries	Posted - 2007.02.20 03:13:00 - [49] Would like to reserve 100 shares please. ISK will be sent in the morning as I work the graveyard shift
Xantheris Caldari Anvil Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 13:43:00 - [50] I would like to reserve 40 shares please. Money sent to Massive Prophet already.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.20 18:02:00 - [51] Shares transferred. MP
Nebuchadnezzar I Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.02.21 16:16:00 - [52] Hmm, not as much traffic as i'd expect (bump)
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.23 00:05:00 - [53] Ran into some extra isk, put me down for 500mil worth what ever that is... ----------------------------------------------- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=439797Cli
Pang Grohl Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.23 00:25:00 - [54] Reserve 20 shares please. Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)
Sammell Amarr Symptom Of The Universe Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.23 04:22:00 - [55] Reserve 30 shares...isk incoming
Khon Shulga	Posted - 2007.02.24 14:49:00 - [56] Put me down for 80 shares please- I'll send the isk to the character you indicated in a moment.
Akasma Rina	Posted - 2007.02.24 15:04:00 - [57] I will take 37 shares please, money sent to Motivated Prophet at 1500 EVE time.
Nummb	Posted - 2007.02.24 15:11:00 - [58] 100 shares for me, money sent already.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.24 15:31:00 - [59] Invasion of the NPC-corp investors! All paid-for shares have been transferred. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Khon Shulga	Posted - 2007.02.25 03:19:00 - [60] 20 more for me, then I'm done. Maybe next time I post I'll have a corp tag.
Obijameskenobi Caldari Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.02.26 09:28:00 - [61] put me down for 400 mill worth of shares. I will transfer the ISK tonite to Massive. Cheers Obi
Angelus Damelon Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.02.26 13:06:00 - [62] Sending 100mil to MP right now for 100 shares.
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.02.27 03:07:00 - [63] Put me down for 50 million, transffering ISK to Massive Prophet as I type :)
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.27 16:00:00 - [64] All paid-for shares transferred. Still looking for isk to fulfill commitments from: Executive P Dalknor Ithilistar Pang Grohl Obijameskenobi If you've already transferred isk and are on this list, please let me know so I can go back through my logs. And remember, if your corporation or alliance needs to move lots of minerals around, send 'em our way! MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Pang Grohl Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.27 20:42:00 - [65] Originally by: Motivated Prophet All paid-for shares transferred. Still looking for isk to fulfill commitments from: Executive P Dalknor Ithilistar Pang Grohl Obijameskenobi If you've already transferred isk and are on this list, please let me know so I can go back through my logs. And remember, if your corporation or alliance needs to move lots of minerals around, send 'em our way! MP Sorry, RL has kept me off EVE for the last few days. I will be on tonight & sending the iskies. Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.27 22:59:00 - [66] Originally by: Motivated Prophet All paid-for shares transferred. Still looking for isk to fulfill commitments from: Executive P Dalknor Ithilistar Pang Grohl Obijameskenobi If you've already transferred isk and are on this list, please let me know so I can go back through my logs. And remember, if your corporation or alliance needs to move lots of minerals around, send 'em our way! MP When do I get my shares? PP has not received any yet and I sent you 500bil isk like you asked. ----------------------------------------------- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=439797Cli
Obijameskenobi Caldari Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.02.28 10:37:00 - [67] Apologies MP, I have been experiencing serious technical difficulty's with my laptop. (its all been sorted now, so I will be able to log in tonight and transfer the 400mill ISk to Massive Prophet. Kind regards Obi
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.28 15:57:00 - [68] Originally by: Proton Power When do I get my shares? PP has not received any yet and I sent you 500bil isk like you asked. I don't know if you forgot--or if you're just being an ass--but, regardless, you asked me to transfer the shares to DG, not PP. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.28 16:56:00 - [69] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Originally by: Proton Power When do I get my shares? PP has not received any yet and I sent you 500bil isk like you asked. I don't know if you forgot--or if you're just being an ass--but, regardless, you asked me to transfer the shares to DG, not PP. MP Being an Ass :) ----------------------------------------------- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=439797Cli
Quinton McTish McTish Industries	Posted - 2007.02.28 19:57:00 - [70] Is there a minimum amount of shares you can purchase? I'm relatively new to the game, but it's stuff like this that I really started playing EVE for to begin with. That being said, I don't have a whole lot of ISK... but enough to purchase maybe 5 or so shares. Be gentle with the laughter. :)
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.02.28 21:36:00 - [71] Originally by: Quinton McTish Is there a minimum amount of shares you can purchase? I'm relatively new to the game, but it's stuff like this that I really started playing EVE for to begin with. That being said, I don't have a whole lot of ISK... but enough to purchase maybe 5 or so shares. Be gentle with the laughter. :) While I am happy to take on investors of any size, please remember the old canard--only invest what you can afford to lose. If you have 5m to invest, you're often better off investing it in yourself and your own advancement than in an IPO. All that said, if you've done a level-headed evaluation of your financial circumstances and still want to invest, it'd be my pleasure to send 5 shares your way. Without even a hint of laughter. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
allanvv Solar Wind	Posted - 2007.02.28 23:02:00 - [72] Could I get 300mil in shares?
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.01 05:27:00 - [73] Originally by: allanvv Could I get 300mil in shares? Yep, just transfer 300m to Massive Prophet and I'll get you those shares. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Obijameskenobi Caldari Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.01 08:35:00 - [74] 400mill ISk finally sent to Massive Prophet last night. Cheers Obi
Chitah Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.03.01 11:45:00 - [75] I would like to purchase 70 shares. 70mill will be sent after DT to Motivated Prophet Cheers
GeneRuss	Posted - 2007.03.01 11:58:00 - [76] I would like buy 20 shares. Sending money to Massive Prophet. Thanks -GR
Ladina Barger	Posted - 2007.03.01 13:09:00 - [77] I'd like to purchase 30M in shares as well. I'll transfer the ISK when I'm in game shortly. Thanks
Quinton McTish McTish Industries	Posted - 2007.03.01 18:16:00 - [78] Edited by: Quinton McTish on 01/03/2007 18:12:52 Originally by: Motivated Prophet While I am happy to take on investors of any size, please remember the old canard--only invest what you can afford to lose. If you have 5m to invest, you're often better off investing it in yourself and your own advancement than in an IPO. All that said, if you've done a level-headed evaluation of your financial circumstances and still want to invest, it'd be my pleasure to send 5 shares your way. Without even a hint of laughter. MP Oh absolutely. Well, as I see it... my market (minerals) has been somewhat limited lately. I've got stockpiles of resources and I'm waiting for the market to recover in some areas, rather than selling low. So while I may only have liquid ISK's of 5 million, I've got much more than that tied up in assets. I don't want to sit and spin on my thumb, waiting for the market to pick up. I'd rather take advantage of this IPO before the shares are all sold off and I miss out on a potentially good thing. 5 shares, may not get me a lot... but something is better than nothing at all. And even it if ends up being a huge flop, I'm not going to be putting a gun to my head or spacing myself because of the loss. I'll send the ISK the next chance I get.
Ladina Barger	Posted - 2007.03.01 23:19:00 - [79] 30M ISK transfered
Sophie Marceaux Akhetaten	Posted - 2007.03.02 09:00:00 - [80] 100 mil sent to Massive Prophet Sophie
Jaedar Metron Deadly Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:46:00 - [81] Edited by: Jaedar Metron on 04/03/2007 21:48:14 I want 50 shares please, need to get into the stock market again after Emfi went boom Will send money ASAP EDIT: Seems EvE's having technical difficulties Will send the iskies tomorrow after DT. EDIT2: Changed amount of shares from 10 to 50. -JM
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.05 06:24:00 - [82] I would like to buy 100 shares. Isk has been sent. New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Jaedar Metron Deadly Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 17:29:00 - [83] Yo, iskies for 50 shares sent. Hoep you get around to them soon, as I see you online Good luck with your Grandma btw , dunno much about such diseases...
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.06 01:47:00 - [84] All share transfers are now up-to-date. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Lotus Sixx	Posted - 2007.03.06 03:35:00 - [85] could I reserve 20 shares please...
WillisCorto	Posted - 2007.03.06 21:03:00 - [86] 100 Shares Please. ISK Transferred
Auri Hella The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.06 22:38:00 - [87] I found some extra money, 100 additional shares please.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.07 14:47:00 - [88] All transfers are up-to-date. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.09 15:03:00 - [89] Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 09/03/2007 14:59:49 Originally by: Motivated Prophet Edited by: Motivated Prophet on 19/02/2007 23:39:57 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd at 1m/share, put me down for 50 shares. i'll send you the isk when i log on tonight (unless the wife distracts me and i forget, in which case, it might be a tad later tonight). will this phase 2 continue until around 10b is raised? Phase 2 will stay open until the entirety of the allocated IPO block has been sold. Edit: And in the meantime, any dividends that are paid prior to a sell-out will be rolled back into the corp. MP MP: Would it not be an idea to maybe re-adjust this? I mean with the current level of investment activity getting another 15k shares sold could take quite a while, meanhile no dividens? Also if the dividens are relatively high this may, in turn, attract new investors to fill the remaining 15k shares faster?
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.09 18:04:00 - [90] Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 09/03/2007 14:59:49 Originally by: Motivated Prophet Edited by: Motivated Prophet on 19/02/2007 23:39:57 Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd at 1m/share, put me down for 50 shares. i'll send you the isk when i log on tonight (unless the wife distracts me and i forget, in which case, it might be a tad later tonight). will this phase 2 continue until around 10b is raised? Phase 2 will stay open until the entirety of the allocated IPO block has been sold. Edit: And in the meantime, any dividends that are paid prior to a sell-out will be rolled back into the corp. MP MP: Would it not be an idea to maybe re-adjust this? I mean with the current level of investment activity getting another 15k shares sold could take quite a while, meanhile no dividens? Also if the dividens are relatively high this may, in turn, attract new investors to fill the remaining 15k shares faster? Sorry if I was unclear. Dividends will be paid. The only portion of isk that investors will not see is that which would go to unsold shares. That isk will stay in the corp wallet, raising the base value of all shares (both sold and unsold). The other two options I can see are to have the corp purchase shares in itself, or to modify the dividend in such a way that unsold shares are not paid. If one of these other options--or some fourth option I had not considered--has the support of the community, I'd be happy to do that, instead. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Braendig	Posted - 2007.03.09 20:02:00 - [91] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Sorry if I was unclear. Dividends will be paid. The only portion of isk that investors will not see is that which would go to unsold shares. That isk will stay in the corp wallet, raising the base value of all shares (both sold and unsold). The other two options I can see are to have the corp purchase shares in itself, or to modify the dividend in such a way that unsold shares are not paid. If one of these other options--or some fourth option I had not considered--has the support of the community, I'd be happy to do that, instead. MP As a minor shareholder, I am pleased with the current dividend distribution plan. Unsold shares are still corporate property and the dividends to be paid to those shares should be retained by the corporation to further incentivize those shares for purchase.
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:24:00 - [92] Edited by: Sun Win on 10/03/2007 16:24:07 Quote: Dividends will be paid. The only portion of isk that investors will not see is that which would go to unsold shares. That isk will stay in the corp wallet, raising the base value of all shares (both sold and unsold). The other two options I can see are to have the corp purchase shares in itself, or to modify the dividend in such a way that unsold shares are not paid. If one of these other options--or some fourth option I had not considered--has the support of the community, I'd be happy to do that, instead. Not an accountant so I'm trying to wrap my head around this. I think that issuing a dividend in the way that you suggest penalizes current investors by allowing future investors to buy shares as a discount. Here's the math as I see it with easy numbers: You IPO 2,000 shares at 1ISK ea. on a company with no current assets. Half of them sell. --Company net worth: 1,000 ISK.' --I get 10 of them. Value of my investment: 10 ISK Company does business and realizes 20% profits. --Value of company: 1,200 ISK --Value of my shares 12 ISK You issue a dividend for 100% of those profits to both the current and unsold shares (so 0.10 ISK/share) --Dividend paid to investors: 100 ISK --Dividend reinvested: 100 ISK --Value of company: 1,100 ISK --Value of my investment 11ISK + 1ISK cash = 12ISK So far so good. News of your excellent business sense reaches Eve, remaining IPO shares are bought at 1ISK each. --Value of company: 2,100ISK --So shares are actually worth 1.05 each --Value of my investment: 10.5 ISK(!) + 1ISK cash --Newcomers are now buying 1.05 ISK shares for 1ISK. I am not sure if my reasoning is right here and I welcome comments and corrections but it seems to me that issuing a percentage of the dividends back to the company on unsold shares is in effect subsidising future share purchases and my expense (unless I also buy up lots of future shares ). New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Braendig	Posted - 2007.03.10 16:53:00 - [93] Originally by: Sun Win <snip> You are absolutely right. However, the benefit that you get that the person purchasing the shares at a later date does not get is the dividend. Company issues 10 shares at 10 million ISK a share. Say you buy 10% of the company (1 share). The company sells 50% of the shares on the market (5 shares total, including the one you purchased). The company then makes 10 million ISK. It issues a dividend for 10 million ISK. The company retains 5 million ISK (due to unsold shares), and you recieve 1 million ISK. Now your shares are worth an additional 500 thousand ISK (10% of 5 million ISK retained earnings) and you've also recieved 1 million ISK. The person buying new shares will be recieving shares worth 10.5 million ISK for the bargain price of 10 million ISK, but they will not have recieved the 1 million ISK dividend. This in no way affects your share value. You're still gaining ISK from an increase in corporate NAV. It just rewards people who participate later than you as they get the opportunity to purchase the assets at pre NAV increase prices. And the opportunity to purchase these shares is open to you as well. With all that said, however, it wouldn't be a bad idea to increase the share price by a corresponding number to compensate for the increased NAV of the company. Since it's a single point of sale for the IPO, it would be relatively easy for MP to increase the price of the shares to reflect the increase in corporate NAV due to retained earnings. It would also give a very clear picture of the increase in the value of the company due to dividend retention.
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.10 22:06:00 - [94] Thx for clearing it up MP :)
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.11 00:22:00 - [95] Originally by: Braendig The person buying new shares will be recieving shares worth 10.5 million ISK for the bargain price of 10 million ISK, but they will not have recieved the 1 million ISK dividend. This in no way affects your share value. Here's where I get confused. See if this other person HADN'T bought those shares then my shares would have been worth 11 million (the company was only worth 50 million +5 million = 55 million/5 shares = 11million/share). Then when these other people bought their shares their 10 million investment jumped to 10.5 instantly while the value of mine fell from 11 million to 10.5 million. In this scenario, half of the reinvested profits, which were realized off of my investment went to investors who had not yet invested. That doesn't seem right. New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Braendig	Posted - 2007.03.11 14:02:00 - [96] The shares that the company holds must be considered an asset at market value. If they're not considered an asset at that value, then the company 'magically' gains value when it sells the shares. It doesn't. It's converting an asset (unsold shares) into cash. However, there's no net change in corporate value.
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.11 17:12:00 - [97] Edited by: Sun Win on 11/03/2007 17:13:36 It seems to me that when the company issues a share it doesn't magically gain value. A share has no value until its been bought. It gains value due to an injection of ISK into the company when someone exchanges ISK for a share. Otherwise when TINY. created the 25,000 shares then suddenly the company magically gained 25bil in assets. At any rate, I fear taking this thread further off topic which is the IPO itself. So I'll let the matter lie and wait for a comment from MP. EDIT: actually if the dividend will be paid out using the formula on page 3 of the prospectus then all is well. Also, I'd like to reserve an additional 50 shares. I'll try to transfer the ISK before the weekend is out. New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Ezoran DuBlaidd Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.11 20:34:00 - [98] you guys could always just start a new thread, maybe even copy some of the posts from this one, and have it just be on the ins and outs of what you're discussing and how it practically applies in the eve universe, versus what we see irl.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.12 02:51:00 - [99] i might've missed it; but, when do we get our shares? when all of them are sold?
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.12 03:45:00 - [100] Originally by: Sun Win Otherwise when TINY. created the 25,000 shares then suddenly the company magically gained 25bil in assets. For purposes of my accounting, it did. Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd you guys could always just start a new thread, maybe even copy some of the posts from this one, and have it just be on the ins and outs of what you're discussing and how it practically applies in the eve universe, versus what we see irl. I'd read it. Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd i might've missed it; but, when do we get our shares? when all of them are sold? I show your shares as being transferred: paid XXEzoran DuBlaidd - 50 Do you not have them? If not, I'll need to bring in the GM's to trace them down. Everyone else should have theirs. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.12 10:38:00 - [101] sorry, it was a long day yesterday, i missed them. yup, i have them. again, oops on my part.
Silver Night Caldari Intergalactic Combined Technologies THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.03.12 20:40:00 - [102] Money sent for 70 shares -------------- Director. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
Tiodus Gallente City of Certitude	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:55:00 - [103] Isk sent for 250 shares Regards, -Tiodus
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.03.13 22:37:00 - [104] Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 13/03/2007 22:37:08 Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 13/03/2007 22:34:00 Put me down for another 100 million, ISK transferred :)
Hyung Mao LiveTech	Posted - 2007.03.16 06:57:00 - [105] 10 shares. ISK sent.
Auri Hella The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.16 16:13:00 - [106] I was glad to see dividends coming in today. However I'm slightly alarmed at them being only 0.5%. Should the investors be alarmed or is this just a small dividend because operations are still being setup properly?
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.16 18:42:00 - [107] Originally by: Auri Hella I was glad to see dividends coming in today. However I'm slightly alarmed at them being only 0.5%. Should the investors be alarmed or is this just a small dividend because operations are still being setup properly? I screwed up. Absolute dividends should have been 350m; since the corp holds 50%+1 of the shares, the paid dividend should have been 700,010,000 isk. A second dividend has been issued. My apologies. Multiple issues held down dividends this month. I'll try to list some of them. TINY. had just begun large-scale production of propellant injection vents. I need to take stock of what's building and what's on the market, but I estimate a direct loss of at least 300m from this change, with additional losses related to the devaluation of stockpiled rig components. Capitalization has been slow to materialize. While there have been a few sniffs, no large-scale (3b+) commitments have been made as of yet. This has cramped my ability to aggressively move into markets. There haven't been a whole lot of compression orders coming in. Again, if you know a group in need of very-large-scale mineral deliveries--lowends, highends, or a mix--let me know! For approximately a week, TINY. was without a great deal of leadership while I dealt with some issues relating to my grandmother's sickness. I appreciate all of your comments on the thread about that, so I won't drag it back in here, other than to say, thank you for understanding. By the very nature of market speculation, if I buy something now for 50m expecting it to be worth 100m in three months, the first and second months are going to have suboptimal RoI. I'm not sure there's a way around this one, to be honest; the first month in any business like this will be a little rocky as a result. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:34:00 - [108] Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 17/03/2007 00:31:10 Hey its cool MP :) Things will take off, I don't think as an invester that it has been a reflection on the IPO or you which I believe to be solid and worth investing in, small dividends this month were somewhat expected but thanks for your candidness as for the reasons, and if I can help at all give me a shout, not that I will be much use :P I would throw you some more ISK (expecting good returns of course :P )if I could afford it, but I am desperately saving up at the moment. Being as open with your investers as you are is what I would hope for in an investment, your communication has been great thus far. And I thank you. Imperius Edit : Damn typo deamon.
Auri Hella The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:38:00 - [109] Thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated.
Sholack Garant The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.20 10:09:00 - [110] Edited by: Sholack Garant on 20/03/2007 10:16:47 Can I purchase 50 shares please? I'll transfer the 50 mill when I'm next in game. Edited for clarity
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.20 20:04:00 - [111] All transfers are up-to-date. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Sholack Garant The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.20 20:08:00 - [112] Just wanted to say thanks for the quick response
Weakmind	Posted - 2007.03.23 20:47:00 - [113] Friendly bumpage :O
Ezoran DuBlaidd Minmatar Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.03.23 20:56:00 - [114] i don't know about others; but, honestly, after reading (and then investing) in this venture, i didn't expect to see any return on this for at least a couple of months. i may have skimmed over items which mentioned there would be a min %, or divs starting the first month; but, based upon what i HAD read, i just went under the impression that whenever you had that good deal come in, we'd see divs. cheers for the, to me, much earlier than expected divs.
Jaedar Metron Artificial Horizons YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.29 00:54:00 - [115] Edited by: Jaedar Metron on 29/03/2007 00:50:26 Bumpanage! Come on investors, this is gonna be a good one, hopefully
DeTox MinRohim Madhatters Inc. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.30 09:18:00 - [116] 15 Shares - Isks sent! ------ ~~Proud member of the !s~~ I take no responsability for your paranoia ! This sig space is Read-only !
Tutreak	Posted - 2007.03.30 22:16:00 - [117] Edited by: Tutreak on 30/03/2007 22:12:57 Wrong character
istasi Artificial Horizons YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.30 22:20:00 - [118] 20shares, Isk sent ------------------------------ My doctor have tried to tell me serveral times that eve isn't the real world... Poor dude, and people say i need to see a doctor ?
Lypert Zemindar Supermacy	Posted - 2007.04.02 02:09:00 - [119] 5 shares in TINY ISKs sent -------------------------------------------------- Zemindar Supermacy is recruiting
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.04.02 02:15:00 - [120] This IPO for simpletons. Give the nice MP money... she gives you lots back... doooo it now!
Kesson Daslef	Posted - 2007.04.02 07:52:00 - [121] Power Friends Inc. is interested in purchasing 40 shares.
Shogie Etiene Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.04.02 23:27:00 - [122] 150 shares please Iskies sent.
Kua Immortal RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.03 00:42:00 - [123] Sorry if I've over looked it, but is there somewhere a record (or could you in fact tell me) of what kind of dividends you expect to hit once things start rolling? Also, sorry to be an utter noobus, but the shares are one million apiece right?
Kua Immortal RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.03 01:26:00 - [124] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Originally by: TheDevilsJury I may be blind because I can't find this anywhere, but what is the expected dividend, when will it start and how often will it be paid? This dividend will be paid monthly. I'll hit the button on or around the 15th, so that I have plenty of time to recover from the ZERO. inventory I have to do at the start of each month. As to expected dividends, those depend entirely on the number of orders I have and the success of my market manipulation. Furthermore, they may range wildly from month to month--if I sell something in June at twice the price I bought it in January, because of the way I do my accounting, that's a huge cash influx. Now, all that said, keep in mind that I'm probably going to be the biggest single shareholder in this venture; if the dividends aren't up to snuff, I'll start calling for new management. MP Just found this which kind of answers my question, I know it depends on a lot of things, but what would be a top (what you hope for and if conditions go your way is achievable) and bottom (what is possible if things do not pan out as intended) estimate for the average dividend you expect to pay out over the next year. This might not be written in good economospeak, but I'm pretty sure it makes sense :).
DeTox MinRohim Madhatters Inc. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.03 06:54:00 - [125] Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 03/04/2007 06:52:13 Originally by: DeTox MinRohim 15 Shares - Isks sent! ~~Still waiting...~~ Sorry, thought it had been longer than I though and noticed the dates, not been that long I've been waiting. Bump then. ------ ~~Proud member of the !s~~ I take no responsability for your paranoia ! This sig space is Read-only !
WhitePhantom Gallente Edenists	Posted - 2007.04.03 10:01:00 - [126] What is the current count on the shares in this investment? Looking to invest into coperations like this, in order have future income at a later date. Besides I have no trouble making money it seems, the level 4 mission salvags from my coperation I suppose has a hand in that. Looking to make a small investment, long-term investment in future dealings mostly likely going to happen.
Carmen Casca Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.04.03 13:54:00 - [127] Would very much like to purchase 50 shares please? Transfering ISK to Massive Prophet as we speak. Thank you.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.03 18:29:00 - [128] All share transfers are now up-to-date. I'll update the first post showing number of available shares, and answer any other questions on the thread, once the servers settle down a bit tonight. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Remedios Sonrisa Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.04.03 20:02:00 - [129] Pending your next post and the availability, I would like to buy 100 shares. Will send money to Massive Prophet if shares are available. ....
Catga Coltrain Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.04.04 03:43:00 - [130] 100 shares please, isk sent to Massive Prophet. "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him."- Voltaire
Spacer203 Caldari Iniquity Inc	Posted - 2007.04.04 05:56:00 - [131] ill take 160 shares Money sent to massive prophet
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.05 17:09:00 - [132] All transfers are up-to-date, first post has been updated. Originally by: Kua Immortal Just found this which kind of answers my question, I know it depends on a lot of things, but what would be a top (what you hope for and if conditions go your way is achievable) and bottom (what is possible if things do not pan out as intended) estimate for the average dividend you expect to pay out over the next year. This might not be written in good economospeak, but I'm pretty sure it makes sense :). It made perfect sense to me! I'm giving out exactly ZERO profit estimates. You can beat me with birch switches, you can hire mercs to attack me, you can insult my mom--I don't care, I refuse to estimate returns. I will commit to trying to keep them above 0%. If you want them higher, send me compressed mineral orders, sell me stuff below mins cost, and play into my sinister--I mean, inherently and irrepressibly benevolent--market manipulations. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Jade Aoko	Posted - 2007.04.07 10:55:00 - [133] 25 shares, ISK sent.
Alana DuBlaidd Minmatar Council on Foreign Relations	Posted - 2007.04.07 13:26:00 - [134] I'll take 25 shares (if there's still shares to be had). I'll send the money at lunch.
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:47:00 - [135] Say i had 100 shares and I see the end coming or i just want to liquidate, how do i "jump ship" so to speak? might even be willing to fork over 200 shares worth of isk if I like the answer. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Imperius Blackheart Caldari Reprocity Pure.	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:56:00 - [136] Originally by: Lithalnas Say i had 100 shares and I see the end coming or i just want to liquidate, how do i "jump ship" so to speak? might even be willing to fork over 200 shares worth of isk if I like the answer. From MP's introduction in the OP "At this time, I am buying back TINY. shares in any quantity at 949,999.99 isk apiece."
Sturmgod	Posted - 2007.04.10 20:41:00 - [137] I'd like to take 100 shares please. Eve-mail me to confirm availability and I'll transfer the cash. Cheers.
Alana DuBlaidd Minmatar Council on Foreign Relations	Posted - 2007.04.13 13:06:00 - [138] check my evemail please.
Silver Night Caldari Intergalactic Combined Technologies	Posted - 2007.04.13 21:48:00 - [139] 10 more shares please -------------- Director. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.14 15:36:00 - [140] Share transfers are up-to-date. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Dimitri Forgroth The Bolt	Posted - 2007.04.14 16:08:00 - [141] 200 shares please. Isk has been sent.
BhurakStarkiller	Posted - 2007.04.15 15:38:00 - [142] Reserve 200 shares, please
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.16 09:16:00 - [143] Total profits for the last month were something on the order of 40m isk. I'm not going to insult my shareholders by paying that out. Anyway, it's needed to finance this month, the highlight of which is a SIX BILLION isk contract. The Veldspar won't know what's hit it! Meantime, sorry for the dividend drought, but as I've said all along, this is a long-term investment, and things are sure looking up for next month! MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Xanthar Rex Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.04.16 16:13:00 - [144] 200 shares please. ISK sent to Massive Prophet.
Pang Grohl Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.16 18:04:00 - [145] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Total profits for the last month were something on the order of 40m isk. I'm not going to insult my shareholders by paying that out. Anyway, it's needed to finance this month, the highlight of which is a SIX BILLION isk contract. The Veldspar won't know what's hit it! Meantime, sorry for the dividend drought, but as I've said all along, this is a long-term investment, and things are sure looking up for next month! MP That's fine as long as TINY's value is increasing. It is increasing right? Congrats on landing a big contract. Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)
Undertomb	Posted - 2007.04.18 18:30:00 - [146] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Share transfers are up-to-date. MP I haven't recieved my shares yet.
La Bete	Posted - 2007.04.20 00:02:00 - [147] I'd like to get 20 shares for me and 10 for Lamp shade. ISK's will come from me in the morning.
Remedios Sonrisa Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.04.20 12:57:00 - [148] Originally by: Undertomb I haven't recieved my shares yet. Nor I; perhaps too busy with the new contract? Awaiting confirmation etc.... ....
Ginea Moya Caldari O.P.T	Posted - 2007.04.21 14:47:00 - [149] Edited by: Ginea Moya on 21/04/2007 14:44:35 I'd like 20 shares. Money sent to Massive Prophet in about ten minutes of this post.
Sturmgod	Posted - 2007.04.21 14:56:00 - [150] Paid on the 14th, still no shares. Not happy.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.21 19:04:00 - [151] That's my bad, guys. That account got disabled when its GTC ran out, and I kept getting distracted from renewing it. I've reactivated it for three months with my credit card now, and I'm sending out shares as I write this. Again, my apologies for the slowness. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2007.04.21 19:13:00 - [152] Originally by: Motivated Prophet my credit card They let you have a credit card? \| How To Afford A Tech II BPO \| BMBE \|
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.24 16:03:00 - [153] Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: Motivated Prophet my credit card They let you have a credit card? Remind me to pod you. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Angelus Damelon Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.04.27 07:14:00 - [154] MP, are you still buying back shares at 949,999.99 per? If so, I'd like to sell back my 100 shares in order to rustle up some spare ISK. Feel free to contact me via Eve-mail or convo. Thanks.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.27 14:43:00 - [155] Originally by: Angelus Damelon MP, are you still buying back shares at 949,999.99 per? If so, I'd like to sell back my 100 shares in order to rustle up some spare ISK. Feel free to contact me via Eve-mail or convo. Thanks. Of course! Just transfer the shares to Massive Prophet and send an EVEMail to this character, and I'll send the isk. :) MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Tech Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.27 15:27:00 - [156] How many shares are left for sale? I may be interested in another bil or 2 worth. ----------------------------------------------- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=439797Cli
Jaedar Metron Artificial Horizons YouWhat	Posted - 2007.04.27 16:38:00 - [157] I'm pretty sure theres at least 10bil left of shares in this venture Too slow ...
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.04.27 18:45:00 - [158] Share transfers are up-to-date. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Angelus Damelon Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.04.30 00:29:00 - [159] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Originally by: Angelus Damelon MP, are you still buying back shares at 949,999.99 per? If so, I'd like to sell back my 100 shares in order to rustle up some spare ISK. Feel free to contact me via Eve-mail or convo. Thanks. Of course! Just transfer the shares to Massive Prophet and send an EVEMail to this character, and I'll send the isk. :) MP ISK sent. Thanks again for the investment opportunity. :)
La Bete	Posted - 2007.05.01 20:54:00 - [160] MP, I have not yet got the shares requested. I have send isk. Perhaps you could go over your records again?
Dalknor Ithilistar Orion Academy	Posted - 2007.05.01 21:03:00 - [161] Would like 25 shares... ISK sent.
Cerwyn Taraman Minmatar Phoenix Tech Industries Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2007.05.02 13:49:00 - [162] Originally by: Motivated Prophet Originally by: Angelus Damelon MP, are you still buying back shares at 949,999.99 per? If so, I'd like to sell back my 100 shares in order to rustle up some spare ISK. Feel free to contact me via Eve-mail or convo. Thanks. Of course! Just transfer the shares to Massive Prophet and send an EVEMail to this character, and I'll send the isk. :) MP Not to hijack but I did this on April 27th, transferred you 150 shares and eve-mailed Motivated Prophet but haven't heard back from you yet. Hopefully you are just busy just making sure you were aware of the transfer. Thanks, Cerwyn --------- You have now entered the sig zone! Want to know what Apoapsis means? Visit our recruitment post here.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.05.04 00:14:00 - [163] Originally by: Cerwyn Taraman Originally by: Motivated Prophet Originally by: Angelus Damelon MP, are you still buying back shares at 949,999.99 per? If so, I'd like to sell back my 100 shares in order to rustle up some spare ISK. Feel free to contact me via Eve-mail or convo. Thanks. Of course! Just transfer the shares to Massive Prophet and send an EVEMail to this character, and I'll send the isk. :) MP Not to hijack but I did this on April 27th, transferred you 150 shares and eve-mailed Motivated Prophet but haven't heard back from you yet. Hopefully you are just busy just making sure you were aware of the transfer. Thanks, Cerwyn Isk transferred to you both. This share issue is sold out. Go go gadget Investors, with a capital "I"! MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.05.04 00:16:00 - [164] Originally by: La Bete MP, I have not yet got the shares requested. I have send isk. Perhaps you could go over your records again? I can't find a record of this transfer. Can you give me an exact date/time of your transfer from your wallet? I have reserved 30 shares for you in the meantime. MP -- TINY. Stage 2 IPO, because good things come in pairs.
La Bete	Posted - 2007.05.07 10:57:00 - [165] MP, A bit complicated here, it seems I'm posting as a different character than I play with. I made the transfer on 04/20/2007 around 13:30. It was from a character named Gastnor. I had also sent you an eve-mail about the transfer from that character. Hope we can clear this up :)
Veran Nijoba Amarr Ihatalo Heavy Industries Ihatalo Cartel	Posted - 2007.05.07 20:47:00 - [166] Can you update the current value of the shares on the first post? or is there a place i could check this... Eve-Mail me in Game

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