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Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:41:00 - [31] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 16/02/2007 00:39:35 Originally by: Carebear Stare Seriously....why is everyone complaining so much. Because they can mate.. Eve is an extremely political game and it almost always boils over into the forums.. TBH though I'd not have it any other way..
Anton Kamikaze	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:43:00 - [32] Edited by: Anton Kamikaze on 16/02/2007 00:42:33 Originally by: Hakera server numbers are clearly crashing since last week.... Not really. Last weekend: 32422. All-time record: 34420. <corrected> I wouldn't call that crashing numbers. If the numbers would be low next sunday, it would mean something, but I don't see that happen, because many people will be logged in longer than usual because of the war. ok, just noticed that the all-time record was higher.
Naqisaki Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:45:00 - [33] I've canceled... but not for good, just a break for a few months no doubt. My subs don't end till the end of feb though. Sig removed as it does not relate to your in-game persona. Conuion Meow ([email protected])
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:49:00 - [34] Originally by: Naqisaki I've canceled... but not for good, just a break for a few months no doubt. My subs don't end till the end of feb though. And this is a fairly humorous comment that alot seem to make: "I'M QUITTING!! FFS CCP SUXS!!!! GOSHDANGED CHEETORZ!!!! Oh.. but i'll be back in the near future though.." So whats the point of quitting if your just gonna re-sub later? Not picking on you specifically Naqisaki its just that reminded me of alot of other 'cancelled' posts..
Hakera Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:52:00 - [35] Originally by: Anton Kamikaze Edited by: Anton Kamikaze on 16/02/2007 00:46:25 Originally by: Hakera server numbers are clearly crashing since last week.... Not really. Last weekend: 32422. 22th january: 33182 ( some time before it hit the forum ) All-time record: 34420. <corrected> I wouldn't call that crashing numbers. If the numbers would be low next sunday, it would mean something, but I don't see that happen, because many people will be logged in longer than usual because of the war. ok, just noticed that the all-time record was higher. you may of missed the sarcasm
Naqisaki Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Originally by: Naqisaki I've canceled... but not for good, just a break for a few months no doubt. My subs don't end till the end of feb though. And this is a fairly humorous comment that alot seem to make: "I'M QUITTING!! FFS CCP SUXS!!!! GOSHDANGED CHEETORZ!!!! Oh.. but i'll be back in the near future though.." So whats the point of quitting if your just gonna re-sub later? Not picking on you specifically Naqisaki its just that reminded me of alot of other 'cancelled' posts.. Well, I don't know yet if I'm coming back... But this event took all the fun out of the game for me. I usually don't get so worked up over things like this, but when you have invested 2.5yrs in a game and this sort of thing happens, it's not good. [violet]Sig removed as it does n
Anton Kamikaze	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Hakera you may of missed the sarcasm Looks like it. You got me. But it's not easy these days, because often some post is meant serious, although I think it must be a joke.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries	Posted - 2007.02.16 01:09:00 - [38] Originally by: Naqisaki Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Originally by: Naqisaki I've canceled... but not for good, just a break for a few months no doubt. My subs don't end till the end of feb though. And this is a fairly humorous comment that alot seem to make: "I'M QUITTING!! FFS CCP SUXS!!!! GOSHDANGED CHEETORZ!!!! Oh.. but i'll be back in the near future though.." So whats the point of quitting if your just gonna re-sub later? Not picking on you specifically Naqisaki its just that reminded me of alot of other 'cancelled' posts.. Well, I don't know yet if I'm coming back... But this event took all the fun out of the game for me. I usually don't get so worked up over things like this, but when you have invested 2.5yrs in a game and this sort of thing happens, it's not good. Fair enough.. But if you could.. would you please explain why you feel that your 2.5 years experience is not valid anymore? By all accounts the GM was fired for spawning a faction fitted scorp and was promptly caught.. Not really something that effects anyone but his victim.. And the Dev was caught with some t2 ammo bpos and a sabre bpo.. Valuable to an individual yes but hardly the stuff to have any real effect on an alliance war even if it wasnt reteurned for a few months.. So how do you figure that it had any negative effect on you past the normal distaste of finding out about it?
Nacor	Posted - 2007.02.16 01:51:00 - [39] The problem is we pay a fee to these guys. They haven taken advantage of there knowledge gained through being on the inside, by all accounts, on more than 1 occasion in multiple ways. It is the loss of confidence and respect that these sorts of incidence produce. I'm sure the guy that was outed was not the only one, and you can be fairly certain that it was more than those simple BPO's. The problem is employees of companies that make MMO's being in corps/alliances/guilds/factions, what ever. It is all to easy to just give yourself some money/items to get you going, it then escalates from there. That is why, i am fairly certain you will see no one involved with WoW playing it. Or some one who works for the lottery not allowed to enter. This is not a game, it is a business, and as such must be accountable for the actions of it's employees.
Nerfherder2000 Gallente Serenity Co.	Posted - 2007.02.16 01:54:00 - [40] Eve's player count has been steadily rising, right? I bet CCP saw a smaller than usual increase in total accounts..., but still an increase..., despite any cancellations... Anyone who has left, has probably already been replaced by 5 people who have heard how great this game is... And you know, this is game is still as great as it's always been... Anyone deluding themselves that EVE has somehow been radically altered over the last few days is a fool. Everyone calling for t20's head needs to remember that you have been playing in this supposedly broken game since whatever it is he did. Did it really affect you? It certainly hasn't affected me. I still log in, give my ships a spin, etc. My ship still shoots missiles, the roids in my belt still give trit when refined. My agent still hates me and never offers anything good... This is still the same game, we just know there is one dev who got tempted and couldn't resist, that's it...
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries	Posted - 2007.02.16 01:59:00 - [41] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 16/02/2007 02:02:09 Originally by: Nacor The problem is we pay a fee to these guys. They haven taken advantage of there knowledge gained through being on the inside, by all accounts, on more than 1 occasion in multiple ways. It is the loss of confidence and respect that these sorts of incidence produce. I'm sure the guy that was outed was not the only one, and you can be fairly certain that it was more than those simple BPO's. The problem is employees of companies that make MMO's being in corps/alliances/guilds/factions, what ever. It is all to easy to just give yourself some money/items to get you going, it then escalates from there. That is why, i am fairly certain you will see no one involved with WoW playing it. Or some one who works for the lottery not allowed to enter. This is not a game, it is a business, and as such must be accountable for the actions of it's employees. Paranoia.. And as far as accountability have you not read this thread? IA is in teh house now..
Sophia Regatis Caldari The Reaper Enterprises	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:12:00 - [42] Edited by: Sophia Regatis on 16/02/2007 02:09:40 Originally by: Nacor That is why, i am fairly certain you will see no one involved with WoW playing it. You mean, apart from the GMs.... who are recruited from the player base. Fantastic argument mate. Quote: This is not a game, it is a business, and as such must be accountable for the actions of it's employees. You don't know all the cercumstances in this case. I don't know al the circumstances in this case. Disciplinary procedures are private and confidantial. They are this way for a reason. Deal with it.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:18:00 - [43] Originally by: Apocryphai Originally by: Crumplecorn Flame! Spam! IBTL! I bet there are about 3. You used to post interesting and useful stuff Crumplecorn, what happened? Ummm, how about this: It is highly unlikely that you will get an answer to your request, as despite CCP's apparent desire to have good communication with the playerbase, they always tend to limit it to in-game related topics. This is understandable, because at the end of the day they are a company trying to make money, no matter how much they may dedicate themselves to an ideal or principle. The playerbase indirectly hold great sway over the direction the game takes within CCP's overall vision, as the recurring whines and 'flavor of the month' threads are actually listened to, and if they address a valid issue or highlight an aspect of the game which, while not broken, can be changed to suit the players better, they are acted upon. In this way the forum acts as the primary method the players have of directing CCPs actions regarding the game. Because of this however it would not be appropriate to allow the discussion of more serious topics, such as developer 'corruption' or the repercussions of any events related to the game which may impact the company's financial status in any way on this forum. While in theory it would be nice for the players to have some say on these topics, the discussions and decisions have to be kept within the company itself. By moderating all discussion of the topic on the official forum, CCP simultaneously remove any possible appearance that the player base may have any influence on business decisions, no doubt important for the company to be taken seriously by anyone, and they also remove the influence that would inevitably be held by tens if not hundreds of paying customers rabbling on day and night while they are trying to determine the best course of action. If the entire forum were overrun with discussion on the topic and the general consensus was one which opposed the decision CCP made, they would be left in the unfortunate position of either going against the wishes of the most vocal (though not necessarily most important) customers and creating mass disapproval of their actions, or trying to appease the customers to the point that they make decisions which they believe are not the correct ones, leaving them in an exceptionally poor state should a poor decision made for the sake of crowd pleasing have unfortunate consequences. ---------- IBTL \o/ Fix the ******* map! Privateers FTW
Pan Crastus	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:38:00 - [44] Originally by: Carebear Stare Seriously....why is everyone complaining so much. This just started WW3! PVPers are gonna be happy because there are gonna be some massive battles As an ex-PVPer (cancelled 2 accounts) I can tell you: no, the battles won't be fun if your opponent just laughs at you when you destroy his T2 ship, because his alliance gave it to him for free and they got the BPO spawned by cheating Devs. I'm not going to waste any more time to earn ISK for my ships.
Megadon Caldari Deathshead Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:53:00 - [45] Have they fired T-20 yet? That's all I want to know...
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:56:00 - [46] Originally by: Megadon Have they fired T-20 yet? That's all I want to know... No, and they won't, so stfu.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:59:00 - [47] Originally by: Pan Crastus Originally by: Carebear Stare Seriously....why is everyone complaining so much. This just started WW3! PVPers are gonna be happy because there are gonna be some massive battles As an ex-PVPer (cancelled 2 accounts) I can tell you: no, the battles won't be fun if your opponent just laughs at you when you destroy his T2 ship, because his alliance gave it to him for free and they got the BPO spawned by cheating Devs. I'm not going to waste any more time to earn ISK for my ships. So BoB now fields whole fleets of Sabres armed only with cargo holds filled with t2 ammo now? Phear them!! (At least thats the image I got from your descripton of the effect the bpos had on their offensive capability.. )
Nacor	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:59:00 - [48] In respoonse to Dred'Pirate Jesus i was very wrong about WoW, so edited out, lottery point still valid Can't be paranoid if it's true. As for the link, already read it, then re-read it. it's a good start These latest events have became news in the gaming community not just EVE. More needs to be done and publicly shown, so that new and old players can be confident the playing field is even. In response top Sophia Regatis This is a very public incident, and in this case keeping disciplinary procedures private will not help matters. It just gives people the opportunity to say things are being overlooked. For those that missed the point of the post. These things hurt a game we all seem to enjoy playing, we all pay the monthly fee. The employee's though, need to held to a high standard of conduct and be beyond reproach.
Megadon Caldari Deathshead Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:06:00 - [49] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Megadon Have they fired T-20 yet? That's all I want to know... No, and they won't, so stfu. I wonder why... I mean if there ever was a reason to fire someone, it would seem this would take the cake.
Dagrin RDM Caldari The Knights of the New Republic Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:13:00 - [50] TBH, we won't really know thew total fallout for a little while...some ppl may have cancelled, but still be playing while waiting for their sub to expire, and some people who were thinking of trying the game may have changed their mind. All you can do is check the server numbers over a few weeks and see if there is a noticable difference in numbers as time to expiry passes. Will there be a big difference in the long run? I don't know, but I am rather interested in finding out. A winning strategy! Are we going for a NBSI post policy, now? Because I seriously though CCP were better than that.
Saaya Irie	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:36:00 - [51] I have not cancelled my acounts... YET. But I personaly know 2 other players who have cancelled specificaly over the shennanigans of the last couple of weeks. I still love this game and am holding out some hope that CCP will fix itself. But I dont have a lot of faith in them at the moment, considering how this whole thing has been handled.
ElweSingollo The Vanyar Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:45:00 - [52] Originally by: fire 59 Who give's a dam, ffs, get over it and act like an adult, unless your a kid ? Agreed... if you play within the rules that is.... Oh and not everyone that "cares" about this is a kid btw Fire. TBH I don't think a huge proportion of the player base will have cancelled I know of only one friend ingame that has done so. I was considering it but haven't made my mind up yet waiting to see what if anything more comes from CCP but will probably stay active.
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:50:00 - [53] I heard the story and it is so not a big deal. It has bean dealt with anyways, the best thing is it won't happen again, and if these things were EVER more then just temporary then maybe people would cancel for that exact reason. Any one who cancels mostly needs a brake anyways, no big deal either. But shoot, more people cancel because they lost their biggest ship in a fight.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:53:00 - [54] A lot of people I know both from the forums and ingame, unfortunately, no longer play because of this. Most I ran into because of my textboard, where a lot of people who I thought would never quit have now let go of all their accounts. Some kept their stuff, expecting to come back; others gave it away. EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries	Posted - 2007.02.16 03:59:00 - [55] Well thats just sad to hear..
ElweSingollo The Vanyar Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.02.16 04:13:00 - [56] Originally by: Dark Shikari A lot of people I know both from the forums and ingame, unfortunately, no longer play because of this. Most I ran into because of my textboard, where a lot of people who I thought would never quit have now let go of all their accounts. Some kept their stuff, expecting to come back; others gave it away. Hmm that maybe puts paid to what I said above.....
Cyrus Ageis Messerschmitt Shipyards Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.16 04:17:00 - [57] To the OP: I think you're not going to get an answer to this, not because they won't, but because they can't. I lot of people posted "OMG, I'm QUITTING!!!! one !!", and some posted I'm leaving when my game card expires. So, while there may have been a sudden surge in active calls/cancellation, some are just going to quit when their pre-paid time is up. With 30, 50, 90, etc day GTC's, that's going to be hard to calculate. Who's to say who's going to quit from looking at the number of active GTC's in use? Also, many posted, "I'm leaving now, but, I'll be back if it cleans up/turns out better." Do you count them? HOW can you count them? It's just a numbers nightmare to "say" how many quit, due to the fuzzy math involved.
Weirda Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.02.16 04:50:00 - [58] Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus I canceled all my accounts in protest of all the idiocy.. Just ignore the fact that I'm actually still posting.. Weirda is cancelled! Swear it!!! __ Weirda Nosferatu - Time for Change
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.02.16 04:53:00 - [59] Bottom line is, an insignificant portion of the population will quit BECAUSE of the recent scandal, and that part of the population will probably end up back in a couple of months. Nothing groundbreakingly heinous happened, the crisis was handled as fair as it could have been, I don't get what the insane fuss is all about. If anything, I expect a massive SURGE in active subscriber numbers due to the publicity (even if negative) created by this event. P.S. You know WHEN does a character truly quit the game ? When he says "here, have my stuff, and by the way, does anybody want my character transfered ?" Everybody else plans to come back later. _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Minerva Radisky Caldari The Arcanum	Posted - 2007.02.16 04:59:00 - [60] scrolls through topic, sees no dev replies ...why has this gone on for a little over 3 pages, now?

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