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fallen merovigean KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.19 19:32:00 - [61] the next huge war all of eve vs INA ? how will the news be reported then ? DD was fired in jita killing 2 friendlys and 1 news reporter, the collertal dam - 600 noobs, oh now were killing newbs along with hostiles and friendlys...............aHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH save the noobs. I report you decide. [url=http://ig.eve-fix.com/kb/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=60246]
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.19 19:37:00 - [62] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 19/02/2007 19:44:19 Originally by: Husari Painen Originally by: Dark Shikari The ratio was still over 3:1, so not bad IMO. You are calling 3:1 in favour of own losses a good ratio? Or are you saying that Shrike killed 3 times more hostile ships with his DD then FI and BOB ships? In that case I suggest looking at killboards again, becouse what you are saying is not the truth. Battleship kills, enemy: 17. Battleship losses, friendly: 5. 17/5 is roughly 3. The friendly losses were not even BoB's fault; they were a mistake by our command due to miscommunication. I mean, come on, this is ridiculous; Band of Brothers kills 15 dreadnoughts in a day and you whine about whether they accidentally killed half a dozen friendly, mostly T1-fitted ships? So when Goonfleet loses an entire fleet of T1 battleships it "doesn't matter", but when FIX loses five, its a huge deal and should be argued about for pages and pages? Besides, its five bloody battleships. We probably lose more than that each day due to people undocking without asking whether the station is camped. EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard
Isonkon Serikain Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.19 19:37:00 - [63] Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 19/02/2007 19:37:27 Originally by: Husari Painen Originally by: VekkTor if u want a report ive been blown in that DD (choo choo) the thing all went how it was supposed to go, an hostile gang (not 3 ships) warped at range, BoBs were aligned and warped out, we've been told to do as well, but there was a large bubble on the station and some support was inside, and some BoB pilots didn't warp yet as well. Shrike did a ninja warp and i said myself "wooohooo DD screenies!" ^^ id post a screen but meh there's too much infos about us in it btw: 1. DD isn't the "i just own reds" weapon 2. imho u should check friendly AND enemy kms 3. being a Independant News Agent is a BIG responsability, bigger than firing a DD on 5+ friendly bses So Shrike fired disregarding allies after BOB warped off? And ended up killing more of FIX then hostiles? Would you say that Shrike didn't care or that you failed to listen to orders? And do you feel protected with titan in system or do you have to be scared every time he uncloaks even though you are allied? Wow, you guys are starting to sound like FOX news (Hmm someone else feels the same)... I don't listen to their garbage, INA is in the same bin now. Change your name to TNA... T, for troll Pity the fool
Weka Dart Caldari Banned of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.19 19:41:00 - [64] snip Do not troll. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.19 19:45:00 - [65] Originally by: Weka Dart We did not intend to kill FIX. You can't really classify it as 'friendly fire' anyway. 'Meatshield Fire' wud be a better phrase. We tank well!!! While BOB our DPS throws more dots more dots more dots!!!
Won Swunglow Dead By Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.19 20:18:00 - [66] This Shrike person is my hero, she seems to be able to play eve 23/7... Man i wish i could do that
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.02.19 20:22:00 - [67] People still arguing with the "reporter" should probably read here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=478763
DaveyE Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.19 21:53:00 - [68] Well my Megathron got it in that Blast (curse you Shrike) :)) I made it back to the POS with 2% structure and wooped with joy and 2 secs later BOOOOOOOOOM and Davey starts bubblin - I loved that ship, I really did sigh
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:47:00 - [69] Originally by: Herculite Edited by: Herculite on 19/02/2007 13:28:47 Originally by: Sardukon Change your corp name to "Fox News" please. Actually unidentified character, a UCLA study showed Fox News to be the most balanced news program in the US in terms of left-right bias. They had only one program that was rated slightly biased right. It was far more centrist than any other network. Your flame would have been more accurate if you said 'Change your corp name to 'CBS News please'. mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/MediaBias.doc We report, you decide If it wouldn't get modded, I'd post why exactly Fox isn't the propaganda machine its opponents claim it to be... Well I think I just summed it up. Question for BoB, D2, aAa, and anyone else with a Titan: How many manhours of mining go into getting the supplies for a single blast? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Salda Smoke Hurricane	Posted - 2007.02.19 22:55:00 - [70] Edited by: Salda on 19/02/2007 22:53:33 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Herculite Edited by: Herculite on 19/02/2007 13:28:47 Originally by: Sardukon Change your corp name to "Fox News" please. Actually unidentified character, a UCLA study showed Fox News to be the most balanced news program in the US in terms of left-right bias. They had only one program that was rated slightly biased right. It was far more centrist than any other network. Your flame would have been more accurate if you said 'Change your corp name to 'CBS News please'. mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/MediaBias.doc We report, you decide If it wouldn't get modded, I'd post why exactly Fox isn't the propaganda machine its opponents claim it to be... Well I think I just summed it up. Question for BoB, D2, aAa, and anyone else with a Titan: How many manhours of mining go into getting the supplies for a single blast? Well, Based on in game information, a DD takes 75k racial isotopes. Judgement on the Avatar uses helium, you can buy 75k for about 17M isk in heimitar (229pu). Market history shows it recently averaged 160 for several million units, which would only be 12M per blast. How long does it take to mine 17M isk, i dunno, 20 minutes? Salda
Blumpkin	Posted - 2007.02.20 00:57:00 - [71]
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.02.20 01:05:00 - [72] THIS JUST IN! Husari Painen is a **er who trys to stuff some horse sT news story down everyone's throat meanwhile his main's alliance is getting waxed in every way! News at 11: Husari Painen enjoys the pleasurable company of mutant livestock - tune in!
Husari Painen Independant News Agency	Posted - 2007.02.20 01:16:00 - [73] Originally by: Wylker THIS JUST IN! Husari Painen is a **er who trys to stuff some horse sT news story down everyone's throat meanwhile his main's alliance is getting waxed in every way! News at 11: Husari Painen enjoys the pleasurable company of mutant livestock - tune in! Hi Seleene, too late now girl, your real face is exposed... and it ain't pretty... quite the opposite. I guess your bootlickers still can't face the thruth that you are as honorable as a european politician. We deliver the news, you live with them
Talen Reaper	Posted - 2007.02.20 01:16:00 - [74] I was in the system when bob showed up it was quite an amazing sight and it created a huge lag spike I couldn't do anything to escape as my ship wouldn't respond I was popped & podded in seconds ...several others at the gate got away so the lag could just be associated to the network each player is on.... I know that when the fc`s started giving orders a lot of our pilots were complaining about the sudden spike in lag ( a 100 or so ships appearing suddenly can do that to a node) bob seemed to be able to group quickly and get to there assigned targets . I haven't been in many fleet operations this big in a long time and it seems the lag is no were near as bad as it was in 2004/5 ..when I was last in actions like this . bob could have deployed the dd sooner and had a much bigger impact on the battle as far as losses go why he diden`t I have no idea maby we will get a report on that later. 1 other thing that many haven't commented on is the fact the the coalition or anti bob or what ever tag the forces fighting bob (and this is about bob ) haven't had a long time of working together as time goes on the anti bob forces will get better ..we have all seen bob`s best there tactics wont grow from just getting a Level of trust that the antibob`s will get as time goes by. another thing is just the sheer amount of anger/distrust that has grown in eve in general it seems to many that the playing field that we all pay for has been tilted to one side ..this may or not be true but thats the perception ....for some I am sure not all I for 1 will have as much fun in this war as I can & hopefully will learn much .. the bob allies are taking the brunt of the attacks & most of the losses Fix for all there posting here are taking a pounding but they haven't given up it seems that bob chooses there allies well.. this war EvE 1 as many have dubbed it will go on for a long time & there will be a reshaping of OO space & the powers that govern ..how that reshaping comes into being will be very interesting .
Haren Saalsejuk Impel Industrial	Posted - 2007.02.20 01:36:00 - [75] Originally by: Husari Painen Originally by: Wylker THIS JUST IN! Husari Painen is a **er who trys to stuff some horse sT news story down everyone's throat meanwhile his main's alliance is getting waxed in every way! News at 11: Husari Painen enjoys the pleasurable company of mutant livestock - tune in! Hi Seleene, too late now girl, your real face is exposed... and it ain't pretty... quite the opposite. I guess your bootlickers still can't face the thruth that you are as honorable as a european politician. Independent, not -dant. Truth, not 'thruth'. Also, 'news' is a singular, not plural, so you should alter your snappy one-liner to "it" and not "them." Also, you should remove the word "we" and replace it with "I", and strike the word "news" and replace it with "random crap." Also, your broad casting of European politicians as particularly dishonorable ignores the fact that all politicians are at some point dishonorable, such as when they stoop to hiring pawns to sit in press conferences and ask questions that makes the whole room roll its eyes. Oh, wait. Is your whole existence an ironic commentary on so-called impartial news agencies? You got the sanctimonious attitude, the poor grasp of language, and the obvious-but-frequently-denied slant down almost perfectly. Well done, Sir. Well done.
VinceNoir Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.02.20 02:19:00 - [76] Please do not flame -Targoviste([email protected])
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.02.20 02:21:00 - [77] Please do not flame -Targoviste([email protected])
VinceNoir Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.02.20 02:22:00 - [78] Originally by: Haren Saalsejuk Please do not flame -Targoviste([email protected]) That seems kind of racist.
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.02.20 02:24:00 - [79] Originally by: VinceNoir Originally by: Haren Saalsejuk Please do not flame -Targoviste([email protected]) That seems kind of racist. Vince, get the heck out of my thread of victory, not only can I come out as being a Seleene alt, but I am trying to find out WHERE all the good livestock is being stored. I was hoping he would tell, but he wants it all for himself it seems.
Talen Reaper AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.02.20 05:23:00 - [80] now that I put my info back in settings ya want to return my post
Trinity Faetal 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.20 07:12:00 - [81] dont feed the independant new reporter -- Enjoy The Silence
Minigin Caldari Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.20 07:20:00 - [82] i dont think this is a huge issue. stuff like this happens... and we dont need to hear about it... really the cost of a few bs's is nothing in the grand scheme of this war!
Empyre ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.21 21:58:00 - [83] snip - keep it on topic please. -Ivan K People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue
Griefer Troll Troll Industries	Posted - 2007.02.21 22:15:00 - [84] Edited by: Griefer Troll on 21/02/2007 22:19:04 Originally by: Weebear If you check BoB's killboard, they have never hidden from posting friendly fire incidents from their DD weapon before. Ah that's where you're going wrong. snip not needed - hutch However to be balanced, that applies to most killboards anywhere. Simply cross-check killboards against the eve-map kill stats to see how utterly bogus and padded they are. During the ASCN war BoB were routinely posting more 'kills' on their board from one 'battle' than had occurred in 24 hours in total in that system. I think having alot of killboard points keeps people from feeling lonely when they are home-alone shooting POS on christmas day. To each his own.
Griefer Troll Troll Industries	Posted - 2007.02.21 22:31:00 - [85] If you suspect someone of cheating, please feel free to petition it and let the GMs investigate it. Please avoid discussing it on the forums however. I also point you to this topic. -Ivan K
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.21 23:35:00 - [86] Wow... has this thread ever spiralled downward... actually I don't really mean that, it didn't have much in the way of content to begin with. /goes off to look for unbiased reporting (fat chance of finding it) Blog
Veras Mendacity Templars of Space CORE.	Posted - 2007.02.22 00:03:00 - [87] I had to log off and go to sleep at 4 a.m., just as this was developing. So I came to the forums tonight specifically to find out what happened. Thanks for the news item. The critics can go to Jita for all I care.
titanstory	Posted - 2007.02.22 02:43:00 - [88] Posting with an unidentified character in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.22 09:02:00 - [89] Originally by: Apolyon I Edited by: Apolyon I on 19/02/2007 11:13:12 Originally by: Imperil But for not posting losses, well, most alliances does not post losses. FIX policy is alway post lost regardless what it is, so if some guys in FIX dont post their own lost, dont blame the whole alliance. I think lots of alliance having the policy to post lost as well but due to personal pride, some dont post it. About the DD friendly blast, we're already had had order to warp out well before it happen on TS and gang chat. The problem is some people still hanging out in the bubble dont know what is fun for or some lagging too much to do anything when hostile fleet warped in, ie., in my personal case, I was lagging like hell when my Rokh blow up and entering my pod, so I lost pod to the DD. Although there were certain... discrepancy's between the iron and FIX killboards at the start of our first war... I will say that recently they have been pretty good about posting their losses, Shame theres no killmail from fighters... And as far as your sig goes Apolyon, i know your pain, i hear your name called primary early.. right about the time that im also copping a face full of arty and railgun fire T_T We should lead a red vs blue revolt.. get all the guys with A in their name to fly 4 plates and a damage control... maybe then the z guys will hurt a bit?
Aira Phlux Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.22 11:13:00 - [90] LOL you want to trying being an "Ai" thats fricken ouch ... "Ap" is a walk in the park :P Lightning fast ships ftw

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