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Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Liquid Vision on 21/02/2007 02:50:34 2007.02.21 02:41:16 Notify The station Lotka Volterra 77S8 Outpost I Hadrians Wall has been captured by GoonFleet corporation! Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Enarc Dobachi Gallente Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:51:00 - [2] Shocking why?
Gareth Angel Blue Star Enterprises	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:51:00 - [3] OMGOHNOES!!!11!1!1eleven
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:52:00 - [4] The outpost name is amusingly ironic. This is worth a post just for information sake ..... but a better title would be useful. The Enemy's Gate is Down
nickycakes Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:53:00 - [5] sov is bugged, Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:55:00 - [6] Originally by: nickycakes sov is bugged, Actually i think it's because all but 1 of LV POS are offline or dead....shrug. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Pattonator CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:59:00 - [7] Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again.
Tom Gunn Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:03:00 - [8] grats!
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:05:00 - [9] I have my suspicions, and they all use legal game mechanics.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:05:00 - [10] Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/02/2007 03:01:33 Originally by: Liquid Vision Originally by: nickycakes sov is bugged, Actually i think it's because all but 1 of LV POS are offline or dead....shrug. Don't know, what's happening there, but if one LV pos (large pos I assume) is still fully operational, then sovereignty switches 5 days after they lost the majority of (large) poses in that system afaik. If you want sovereignty to switch instantly, you need to take down all poses (or at least all large poses, not sure about that detail), but I'm sure about the 5-days. _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.

BrerLapin Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:06:00 - [11] This is it, finally LV suffers. Whoever names these goon stations is a god. I still laugh at "1v- teenagers have poor judgement"
Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:08:00 - [12] From what I heard someone forgot about fuel =\|
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:09:00 - [13] /me Golf Claps -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
Asylum Seaker Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:10:00 - [14] Edited by: Asylum Seaker on 21/02/2007 03:06:23 Coalition saboteurs offlining stuff from within LV ranks maybe? Ah.. excuse my corporation, I forgot I left my corp recently. Memento Mori.
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:10:00 - [15] Originally by: BrerLapin This is it, finally LV suffers. Whoever names these goon stations is a god. I still laugh at "1v- teenagers have poor judgement" maybe you can explain it, because I don't get it. Well English is not my mother language.... Tbh, I expect there is some stupid smack behind it, so I haven't missed anything worthy so far by not understanding the joke.
Darc Kaahar Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:11:00 - [16] Well done Lads. Great name as well
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:14:00 - [17] Seriously. . .I chalk it all up to those Gooniedevhaxsploits we've all been hearing about. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
BrerLapin Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:16:00 - [18] Edited by: BrerLapin on 21/02/2007 03:14:15 Originally by: Topaz Skydiver Originally by: BrerLapin This is it, finally LV suffers. Whoever names these goon stations is a god. I still laugh at "1v- teenagers have poor judgement" maybe you can explain it, because I don't get it. Well English is not my mother language.... Tbh, I expect there is some stupid smack behind it, so I haven't missed anything worthy so far by not understanding the joke. Edited by: BrerLapin on 21/02/2007 03:13:19 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_failure
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Liquid Vision Seriously. . .I chalk it all up to those Gooniedevhaxsploits we've all been hearing about. Hope Backdoor Bandit takes you hard some day. _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Liquid Vision Seriously. . .I chalk it all up to those Gooniedevhaxsploits we've all been hearing about. Hope Backdoor Bandit takes you hard some day. Seems like he's already taken you and your friends. . . Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!

Violent Jake	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:26:00 - [21] Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. Obnoxious comments and baseless accusations of cheating have been working out exceptionally well for LV lately. Keep 'em coming.
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:31:00 - [22] Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 21/02/2007 03:31:25 Originally by: BrerLapin Edited by: BrerLapin on 21/02/2007 03:14:15 Originally by: Topaz Skydiver Originally by: BrerLapin This is it, finally LV suffers. Whoever names these goon stations is a god. I still laugh at "1v- teenagers have poor judgement" maybe you can explain it, because I don't get it. Well English is not my mother language.... Tbh, I expect there is some stupid smack behind it, so I haven't missed anything worthy so far by not understanding the joke. Edited by: BrerLapin on 21/02/2007 03:13:19 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascading_failure I meant 'teenagers have poor judgement'. I understand what it means, but not at what it was aimed.
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:34:00 - [23] New News!! A Phoenix flown by Mr Testy undocked from the recently captured station and is dying as we speak. Think he set auto self-destruct. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Nothing Ends	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:36:00 - [24] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:38:00 - [25] Originally by: Nothing Ends Originally by: Liquid Vision Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Liquid Vision Seriously. . .I chalk it all up to those Gooniedevhaxsploits we've all been hearing about. Hope Backdoor Bandit takes you hard some day. Seems like he's already taken you and your friends. . . Who are you. In all of this? Too scared to post with your main, or just a cheerleader on the side? We'll see how your corporation fares after this war. I'm too scared to post with my main supposedly yet you're posting with an alt. Classic! Yes, this is my main. . .yes, I'm on the coalition's side. New News: Station renamed to "I Didn't Need That Dread Anywayz." Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:39:00 - [26] Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. this is to funny. LV crying. just have your Dev friends BOD put it back in your name. LV and bob are the biggest cheaters in eve, but when they lose there space FAIR, its OMG YOU CAN'T DO THAT!! i thought there was no goons.... or RA.. you must be fighting Ghosts again.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:39:00 - [27] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 21/02/2007 03:36:01 Originally by: nickycakes sov is bugged, These must have been bugs too, Quote: 2007.02.21 03:31:10 Notify Mr Testy has initiated self-destruct of their Phoenix, it will explode in 120 seconds. Quote: 2007.02.21 03:33:11 Notify Phoenix belonging to Mr Testy self-destructs. LV is the new ASCN. ---- "I've never cheated, I've never witnessed those I fly with, cheat and I guarentee you that if I DID witness such a thing I would be first in line to petition it." - Dianabolic
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:40:00 - [28] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 21/02/2007 03:36:54 Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. Sorry to hear that, but odd things happen to us too...(quite often actually) Yes the game seems to be bugged and CCP deny it. It's usually us guys on the receiving end, so welcome to our world Collect your tinfoil hat on the way in and enjoy the strippers
Nebuchadnezzar I Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:41:00 - [29] Post with your main OP? Aha, so when mysterious circumstances happen to an alliance NOT in your bandwagonclub TM obviously it is a game mechanic and most certainly no "metagaming" involved either, no sir!
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:42:00 - [30] Edited by: Graalum on 21/02/2007 03:39:13 Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/02/2007 03:01:33 Originally by: Liquid Vision Originally by: nickycakes sov is bugged, Actually i think it's because all but 1 of LV POS are offline or dead....shrug. Don't know, what's happening there, but if one LV pos (large pos I assume) is still fully operational, then sovereignty switches 5 days after they lost the majority of (large) poses in that system afaik. If you want sovereignty to switch instantly, you need to take down all poses (or at least all large poses, not sure about that detail), but I'm sure about the 5-days. I thought that poses count oward soveriengty after 5 days, but sovereignty changes over downtime if the group with the most sovereignty claiming poses changes in the prior 24 hours, or since the prior downtime so to speak. edit i could be completely and horrorably wrong though.

Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:45:00 - [31] Edited by: Liquid Vision on 21/02/2007 03:43:23 Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I Post with your main OP? Aha, so when mysterious circumstances happen to an alliance NOT in your bandwagonclub TM obviously it is a game mechanic and most certainly no "metagaming" involved either, no sir! This is my main, you whiner. Thanks. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:55:00 - [32] Originally by: Liquid Vision Yes, this is my main. . .yes, I'm on the coalition's side. New News: Station renamed to "I Didn't Need That Dread Anywayz." 'The scumsucker is located at Reisen VI - CreoDron Factory station in the Reisen system of the Ihatalo constellation.' So are you sitting in LV space with an alt ? Bored ? _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.
TBONE 9th Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:56:00 - [33] TECH II TISSUE ANYONE?
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:57:00 - [34] Originally by: TBONE 9th TECH II TISSUE ANYONE? Don't derail this thread, please.
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:59:00 - [35] Maybe you should online all the small POS you spamed instead of keeping them offline? I remember Shinra/the 5 got all *****y when RA were small pos spaming...Hypocrites? Click above for my killboard stats.
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:01:00 - [36] Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Liquid Vision Yes, this is my main. . .yes, I'm on the coalition's side. New News: Station renamed to "I Didn't Need That Dread Anywayz." 'The scumsucker is located at Reisen VI - CreoDron Factory station in the Reisen system of the Ihatalo constellation.' So are you sitting in LV space with an alt ? Bored ? Man. . .at least send me roses first you stalker! And yeah, you're right, no alts join up with alliances and whatnot. Actually, I'm in LV, and I'm sick of the lies. . .and the noobage. . .and most of all. . .nickycakes and his whiny little voice. And apologize before I petition you for calling me a scumsucker. That wasn't very nice at all you big bad bully you!! Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:03:00 - [37] Originally by: Liquid Vision And apologize before I petition you for calling me a scumsucker. That wasn't very nice at all you big bad bully you!! It's a standard reply from a locator agent
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:06:00 - [38] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Liquid Vision And apologize before I petition you for calling me a scumsucker. That wasn't very nice at all you big bad bully you!! It's a standard reply from a locator agent Yes, just quoted Agirtad Dotudink. She lives in Gelfiven. If they ban her for flaming, the Republic Fleet will hunt you down and mayn lvl.4 mission runners. _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.
Roland 99 Minmatar Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:06:00 - [39] Originally by: Topaz Skydiver Don't derail this thread, please. That is all a "speedbump" is capable of ^_^ remember that as your carrier wrecks are being salvaged _______
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:06:00 - [40] Edited by: Liquid Vision on 21/02/2007 04:03:16 Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Liquid Vision And apologize before I petition you for calling me a scumsucker. That wasn't very nice at all you big bad bully you!! It's a standard reply from a locator agent See. . .I'm such a gentle soul I don't even try and do mean things like find people to harrass them. I really don't understand all the hate. . . Still, I'm super glad to know Plutonium loves me enough to waste the ISK looking up where I am. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!

Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:06:00 - [41] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Liquid Vision And apologize before I petition you for calling me a scumsucker. That wasn't very nice at all you big bad bully you!! It's a standard reply from a locator agent Yes, just quoted Agirtad Dotudink. She lives in Gelfiven. If they ban her for flaming, the Republic Fleet will hunt Liquid Vision down and many lvl.4 mission runners. _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:09:00 - [42] Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Liquid Vision And apologize before I petition you for calling me a scumsucker. That wasn't very nice at all you big bad bully you!! It's a standard reply from a locator agent Yes, just quoted Agirtad Dotudink. She lives in Gelfiven. If they ban her for flaming, the Republic Fleet will hunt Liquid Vision down and many lvl.4 mission runners. Jesus. . .I make a subtle shot at LV and all their petitions/whines and people don't figure it out. Maybe I should call up BOB and ask for some pointers on the best way to dumb down the sarcasm without ruining its flavor, zing, and awesomeness. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Nothing Ends	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:12:00 - [43] Originally by: Liquid Vision Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Liquid Vision And apologize before I petition you for calling me a scumsucker. That wasn't very nice at all you big bad bully you!! It's a standard reply from a locator agent Yes, just quoted Agirtad Dotudink. She lives in Gelfiven. If they ban her for flaming, the Republic Fleet will hunt Liquid Vision down and many lvl.4 mission runners. Jesus. . .I make a subtle shot at LV and all their petitions/whines and people don't figure it out. Maybe I should call up BOB and ask for some pointers on the best way to dumb down the sarcasm without ruining its flavor, zing, and awesomeness. 60% Fake LV alt. 40% Characide 100% Babbling Idiot.
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:26:00 - [44] Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 21/02/2007 04:33:58 someone dropped the ball and forgot to fuel a pos that sucks Sig removed - I love BoB so you cant have this sig.
Tetsujin Caldari Band of Brosefs GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:37:00 - [45] Edited by: Tetsujin on 21/02/2007 04:34:10 Originally by: Topaz Skydiver maybe you can explain it, because I don't get it. Well English is not my mother language.... Tbh, I expect there is some stupid smack behind it, so I haven't missed anything worthy so far by not understanding the joke. Teenagers Have Poor Judgement. Judgement is the Avatar's DD. The first LV Avatar pilot the Swarm faced was a teenager. It's one of those things where taken at face value you can kind of nod and go, "Yeah I guess that is true, teenagers do have pretty poor judgement about most things..." but then when it clicks that it's also a reference to the titan suddenly you go, "OOOOOH! Riiiiight!" Don't worry, it took me two months to figure it out myself. :P Originally by: BrerLapin Whoever names these goon stations is a god. I still laugh at "1v- teenagers have poor judgement" Man the station naming threads are multiple pages long.
USN CVN72 Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:42:00 - [46] Keep it up Guys - regardless of what LV claims GREAT JOB!!! Fix is next after LV Falls!!!
Dal Thrax Caldari Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:43:00 - [47] Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. Um if a "bunch" of your POS's went offline for "1 minute" at just the right time could the "cheat" not involve several billion isk changing hands. Just a though.
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.21 04:47:00 - [48] Get on the horn with your bob bud's and tell them to quit playing so much eve and fix sov instead. shamis Censorship is bad
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:25:00 - [49] Let us see: will LV continue defending their systems with 40 man gangs in their primetime, or will they be invading Jita and attempting to crash the node in protest for not getting their aborted Titan reimbursed?
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:25:00 - [50] Originally by: Nothing Ends Originally by: Liquid Vision Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Liquid Vision And apologize before I petition you for calling me a scumsucker. That wasn't very nice at all you big bad bully you!! It's a standard reply from a locator agent Yes, just quoted Agirtad Dotudink. She lives in Gelfiven. If they ban her for flaming, the Republic Fleet will hunt Liquid Vision down and many lvl.4 mission runners. Jesus. . .I make a subtle shot at LV and all their petitions/whines and people don't figure it out. Maybe I should call up BOB and ask for some pointers on the best way to dumb down the sarcasm without ruining its flavor, zing, and awesomeness. 60% Fake LV alt. 40% Characide 100% Babbling Idiot. Thanks for the support! I hope the mods do their job and band you from EVE-O for continually breaking the rules even after they notify ya to stop posting here, you altastic super-trooper. And yes. . .I'm SO worried about repurcussions on this character. I'm sure all the ebil LVers will come and war-dec me after they get sent back to Jita. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!

Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:28:00 - [51] Originally by: Dal Thrax Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. Um if a "bunch" of your POS's went offline for "1 minute" at just the right time could the "cheat" not involve several billion isk changing hands. Just a though. At this point, it could simply be millions, it is looking pretty bleak for LV atm.
PDoggy Minmatar Valid Character Corporation	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:32:00 - [52] 2007.02.21 03:33:11 Notify Phoenix belonging to Mr Testy self-destructs. do we get to count this as a capship kill? - Wait for your email, do not put it back - Ductoris
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:36:00 - [53] Truth is: Xirtam got a job at CCP. You're all ****** now No matter what you achieve in this game, it'll will always be tainted by the fact you cheated to get there.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:42:00 - [54] Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/02/2007 05:40:01 Originally by: w0rmy Truth is: Xirtam got a job at CCP. You're all ****** now Emptying the trash bins shouldn't have a big impact on the game. Sorry, couldn't resist. _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.
Roland 99 Minmatar Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 05:44:00 - [55] Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: w0rmy Truth is: Xirtam got a job at CCP. You're all ****** now emtpying the trash bins shouldn't have a big impact on the game. Sorry, couldn't resist. run back to empire again when we bring even numbers and stfu _______
Tod Klemp Gallente K-Street Project	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:15:00 - [56] Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/02/2007 05:40:01 Originally by: w0rmy Truth is: Xirtam got a job at CCP. You're all ****** now Emptying the trash bins shouldn't have a big impact on the game. Sorry, couldn't resist. nah, he'd rather sit around playing eve while collecting food stamps.
Ben Derindar KelBen Productions	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:15:00 - [57] Originally by: Liquid Vision I'm SO worried about repurcussions on this character. Post with your main. /Ben How to fix Eve
Bienurdau Hywoaf Minmatar Matari Holo News Network	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:19:00 - [58] Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. I have a few questions How does a POS only go offline for 1 minute? As far as I can tell this is impossible as they take much longer than that to online. Your claim to have POSs up in system and online, have they all had their sovereignty box checked? If not then it doesn't matter how many are there, they aren't counting towards sovereignty.
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:28:00 - [59] Originally by: Ben Derindar Originally by: Liquid Vision I'm SO worried about repurcussions on this character. Post with your main. /Ben This is my main for the upteenth time. Thanks for caring. Again, don't shoot the messenger. I could be like Diana and post a bunch of *******s and half-truths. Instead I just let ya know how it is. LV lost a station and a self-destructed dread to a buncha T1 frigs. Why? Not haxsploits or bugs or CCP. . .because they're inept. End of story. Why do I care? Sooner LV gets rolled up the sooner the Swarm start knocking on BOB's door. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:36:00 - [60] Edited by: R0ot on 21/02/2007 06:34:49 Originally by: Liquid Vision Why? Not haxsploits or bugs or CCP. . .because they're inept. End of story. Why do I care? Sooner LV gets rolled up the sooner the Swarm start knocking on BOB's door. Okay, i know what to buy the North/Goonies side for next christmas, a dictionary in+ept ûadjective 1.without skill or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit: He is inept at mechanical tasks. She is inept at dealing with people. 2.generally awkward or clumsy; haplessly incompetent. 3.inappropriate; unsuitable; out of place. 4.absurd or foolish: an inept remark. Now imo thats exactly what goonies are but im sure you ment something else. Also please if the goonies take a station let them post it, if this really is your main character as you are insisting it is then stop stealing their glory. ___________________________________________________________________

Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 06:53:00 - [61] Originally by: R0ot Edited by: R0ot on 21/02/2007 06:34:49 Originally by: Liquid Vision Why? Not haxsploits or bugs or CCP. . .because they're inept. End of story. Why do I care? Sooner LV gets rolled up the sooner the Swarm start knocking on BOB's door. Okay, i know what to buy the North/Goonies side for next christmas, a dictionary in+ept ûadjective 1.without skill or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit: He is inept at mechanical tasks. She is inept at dealing with people. 2.generally awkward or clumsy; haplessly incompetent. 3.inappropriate; unsuitable; out of place. 4.absurd or foolish: an inept remark. Now imo thats exactly what goonies are but im sure you ment something else. Also please if the goonies take a station let them post it, if this really is your main character as you are insisting it is then stop stealing their glory. So. . .the Goonies are inept, but they are completely rolling LV. So, what's that make LV? And no. . .I'ma steal all their glory and keep it locked away in my station vault all for myself. Myyyyyyyyyy precccccccccciiiiiiiiiiiousssssssssssssssssss. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Admiral Feelgood Even-Flow	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:00:00 - [62] Originally by: Liquid Vision So. . .the Goonies are inept, but they are completely rolling LV. So, what's that make LV? And no. . .I'ma steal all their glory and keep it locked away in my station vault all for myself. Myyyyyyyyyy precccccccccciiiiiiiiiiiousssssssssssssssssss. No you don't get it, Red Swarm Federation & co. are out blobbing LV, because obviously LV is better than the best and can't lose fights and always has the most/best friends obviously RSF is cheating and are inept idiots.
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:03:00 - [63] Originally by: Liquid Vision So. . .the Goonies are inept, but they are completely rolling LV. So, what's that make LV? Well tbh completely rolling LV isn't a great analogy of the situation, if it were then LV would already be in Empire and id be seeing goonies in my local window. Id be interested to know who has more kills/losses in a purely inquisitive manner. And also to know how much space LV has lost to the goons and the pos spamming russians. ___________________________________________________________________
Dao 2 The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:10:00 - [64] Originally by: R0ot Originally by: Liquid Vision So. . .the Goonies are inept, but they are completely rolling LV. So, what's that make LV? Well tbh completely rolling LV isn't a great analogy of the situation, if it were then LV would already be in Empire and id be seeing goonies in my local window. Id be interested to know who has more kills/losses in a purely inquisitive manner. And also to know how much space LV has lost to the goons and the pos spamming russians. they have 3 regions ;p mods this is my main ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Zeveron Generals Of Destruction Syndicate X-PACT	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:13:00 - [65] Originally by: Dao 2 they have 3 regions ;p mods this is my main ;p Hey Dao, when u comming back m8? :-) And QFT btw :-) ----------------------------------
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:17:00 - [66] Originally by: R0ot Originally by: Liquid Vision So. . .the Goonies are inept, but they are completely rolling LV. So, what's that make LV? Well tbh completely rolling LV isn't a great analogy of the situation, if it were then LV would already be in Empire and id be seeing goonies in my local window. Id be interested to know who has more kills/losses in a purely inquisitive manner. And also to know how much space LV has lost to the goons and the pos spamming russians. Funny. . .because that dread pilot that undocked and self-destructed? I just saw him in empire. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:18:00 - [67] Originally by: Admiral Feelgood Originally by: Liquid Vision So. . .the Goonies are inept, but they are completely rolling LV. So, what's that make LV? And no. . .I'ma steal all their glory and keep it locked away in my station vault all for myself. Myyyyyyyyyy precccccccccciiiiiiiiiiiousssssssssssssssssss. No you don't get it, Red Swarm Federation & co. are out blobbing LV, because obviously LV is better than the best and can't lose fights and always has the most/best friends obviously RSF is cheating and are inept idiots. Ok. I TOTALLY get it now. It was so obvious I just can't see why I didn't get it before. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Aaron Static Igneus Auctorita	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:18:00 - [68] Originally by: R0ot Originally by: Liquid Vision So. . .the Goonies are inept, but they are completely rolling LV. So, what's that make LV? Well tbh completely rolling LV isn't a great analogy of the situation, if it were then LV would already be in Empire and id be seeing goonies in my local window. Id be interested to know who has more kills/losses in a purely inquisitive manner. And also to know how much space LV has lost to the goons and the pos spamming russians. The in-game map will tell you who has taken what space, also sign up to the outpost alert for a summary of outpost systems taken each week... Another thing is to regularly check Josh's map thread in this forum for sovereignty claims. - Igneus Auctorita Video -
Jane Spondogolo NoobWaffe	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:25:00 - [69] Originally by: R0ot Edited by: R0ot on 21/02/2007 06:34:49 Originally by: Liquid Vision Why? Not haxsploits or bugs or CCP. . .because they're inept. End of story. Why do I care? Sooner LV gets rolled up the sooner the Swarm start knocking on BOB's door. Okay, i know what to buy the North/Goonies side for next christmas, a dictionary in+ept ûadjective 1.without skill or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit: He is inept at mechanical tasks. She is inept at dealing with people. 2.generally awkward or clumsy; haplessly incompetent. 3.inappropriate; unsuitable; out of place. 4.absurd or foolish: an inept remark. Now imo thats exactly what goonies are but im sure you ment something else. Also please if the goonies take a station let them post it, if this really is your main character as you are insisting it is then stop stealing their glory. I think this might be the 7th station they've taken in this war. 1v 28y ryc jlo kzf Theres another SP station just been taken, and now this one. Comeing up soon! jv1v and 9-9! That'll take it up to 9! Laugh now Xelas, soon they will be in charge.
searchi tiberian suns	Posted - 2007.02.21 07:30:00 - [70] Edited by: searchi on 21/02/2007 07:28:06 would be enough to unclick the souverainity button in the pos manage window no?

R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 08:08:00 - [71] Edited by: R0ot on 21/02/2007 08:05:58 Edited by: R0ot on 21/02/2007 08:05:41 Originally by: Aaron Static Another thing is to regularly check Josh's map thread in this forum for sovereignty claims. Josh's map (no offence mate) is full of it, says venal is d2 owned yet its clearly gurista pirates Originally by: Jane Spondogolo Laugh now Xelas Ok ___________________________________________________________________
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:11:00 - [72] Edited by: Komolov on 21/02/2007 09:08:43 Originally by: Topaz Skydiver I meant 'teenagers have poor judgement'. I understand what it means, but not at what it was aimed. The Enslaver from LV is a teenager in RL and a pilot of Avatar titan in-game. Avatar's superweapon named Judgement. So station's name is referring both to his exercises with that weapon and his abilities to properly estimate strategical situation (despite he scored 200+ kills in one go LV/V lost system in that day anyway) EDIT: still my favorite is "28y Bjoern's Bitter". Sorry BB but it is just lol. --------------------
Kiwimagic Caldari Star Ocean Corporation	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:28:00 - [73] Quote: this is to funny. LV crying. snip do not try to derail the thread - hutch LV and bob are the biggest cheaters in eve, but when they lose there space FAIR, its OMG YOU CAN'T DO THAT!! Its called kama, looks like it just jumped LV fair on the butt. If it was a cheat reap it. If it wasn't looks like the trains rolling
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:36:00 - [74] CCP reset system sov to clear bugged POS's in that system which were online but had no shields. During Sov neutrality enemy have taken the station. Well done guys, great achievement. M.Corp BPC Packages
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:40:00 - [75] Originally by: Velios CCP reset system sov to clear bugged POS's in that system which were online but had no shields. During Sov neutrality enemy have taken the station. Well done guys, great achievement. Really? You have some sort of proof of this? Cause supposedly there was an ISD guy down there interviewing folks while it was going on. Surely he'd know or would inform the devs so they'd tell the attackers, right? Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:40:00 - [76] For those who are intrested in the truth. All POS in 77s where bugged. We filed a petition because of this. CCP then restted the system Sad thing for us is that they did it with out notification So we lost SOV over 77s. As RA and crew found out they took the station. It will return back soon TM. ->My Vids<- CCP= More skilz more moneh!
Fedaykinn Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:40:00 - [77] Lol UL LV thats what you get for backstabbing and betraying so many of your allies. Its called KARMA and you lot have betrayed and backstabbed so many people its now your turn to pay the price. One thing you can learn from this LV is that you need others alliances to help you so never betray them :)
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:43:00 - [78] stfu M.Corp BPC Packages
keesie	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:44:00 - [79] Originally by: Garia666 For those who are intrested in the truth. All POS in 77s where bugged. We filed a petition because of this. CCP then restted the system Sad thing for us is that they did it with out notification So we lost SOV over 77s. As RA and crew found out they took the station. It will return back soon TM. Why don't you all selfdestruct now rightaway, the hurting will be less plus the coalition won't be getting their killmails!
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:46:00 - [80] ALT Troll above ^^ M.Corp BPC Packages

hybridundertaker Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:52:00 - [81] again and again smone lost and loosers say cheating and winners say fair. Welcome to eve where adults behave like school children. and mr OP if that is ure main, u should stfu and let ppl who were there and who actually won post on forums. We have enought ** as it is over here no need for u to post threads mate: unleess it is good for buisiness to advertise ure carebear services. EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER**
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:52:00 - [82] so Velios since you're here, is it true you were lying about LV having a second titan ? ADDRESS TEH RUMOR !!1 http://eve.klaki.net/
Jags Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:53:00 - [83] Wonder how many DEVs in RA to notice this exactly when it happened ? Far too much of a coincidence for my liking ... TBH im **in pig sick of these exploiting **s getting away with everything in this game
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:57:00 - [84] Originally by: Jags Wonder how many DEVs in RA to notice this exactly when it happened ? Far too much of a coincidence for my liking ... TBH im **in pig sick of these exploiting **s getting away with everything in this game Dude, all it takes is to fly through the system to see nobody has sov ;P Get a lid on that paranoia. http://eve.klaki.net/
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:02:00 - [85] Originally by: hybridundertaker again and again smone lost and loosers say cheating and winners say fair. Welcome to eve where adults behave like school children. and mr OP if that is ure main, u should stfu and let ppl who were there and who actually won post on forums. We have enought **** as it is over here no need for u to post threads mate: unleess it is good for buisiness to advertise ure carebear services. Actually LV alts (I'm assuming because no one else would be that lame) have been spamming my business thread saying I'm a corp thief and that I stole a 1 billion ISK battleship BPO and things like that. They must be REALLY sore about that self-destructing dreadnought and losing all those stations. But yeah. . .I'll post when and where I like and who's to say I'm not down there doing the pew-pew as well. Just because I consider this to be my main doesn't mean I don't have other guys going shooty-shooty elsewhere. Besides, I help the war effort in other ways with this character. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Fedaykinn Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:04:00 - [86] Stop trolling LV its not gonna get your station back is it hehe. I would feel bad for you but I cant im afraid its too funny hehe. See you in JV1V (Again)
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:07:00 - [87] RIP LV You've been caught cheating a few weeks ago...soooo, what goes around comes around _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Jags Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:09:00 - [88] Originally by: R'adeh RIP LV You've been caught cheating a few weeks ago...soooo, what goes around comes around When ? Go on enlighten me here.
Sheriff Badden Amarr Legion Federation Amen Anera	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:15:00 - [89] Originally by: Garia666 CCP then restted the system Sad thing for us is that they did it with out notification that's bad
DREDD Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:26:00 - [90] Way to go Goon Fleet! God I love these guys

Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:29:00 - [91] Yeah GO GO Goons!!!! God I love these guys!!! Wooooooooooo!!! Rapetrain Yaaaaar! Chooooo Choooooooo!!! Hey everyone! Wave your hands in the air!!! ------------- Tards. M.Corp BPC Packages
Jags Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:31:00 - [92] Originally by: R'adeh Well, the one dev (think it was sharkbait) catching some of you using passive targets at POS...and certain rumors about Jita and crashing nodes you THINK Proof or STFU. Look out for my bombaphoon in Jita on Sunday , hey if im gonna go out im going out with a bang
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:32:00 - [93] CHOOOOO CHOOOOOOOO I take it that's a no comment then Velios ? http://eve.klaki.net/
prsr Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:34:00 - [94] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk CHOOOOO CHOOOOOOOO I take it that's a no comment then Velios ? Bring your ships and find out. -- .sig apathy ftw
DREDD Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:37:00 - [95] Originally by: Velios Yeah GO GO Goons!!!! God I love these guys!!! Wooooooooooo!!! Rapetrain Yaaaaar! Chooooo Choooooooo!!! Hey everyone! Wave your hands in the air!!! ------------- Tards. ROFL, someone sounds bitter..... or is it that burning sensation & the need to pucker up your pie hole from the Boot that's just been shoved up your........ I think you need to put more thought into your responses
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:38:00 - [96] Originally by: Jags Originally by: R'adeh Well, the one dev (think it was sharkbait) catching some of you using passive targets at POS...and certain rumors about Jita and crashing nodes you THINK Proof or STFU. Look out for my bombaphoon in Jita on Sunday , hey if im gonna go out im going out with a bang Yes, crashing the node and griefing noobs in Jita will put you waaaaaaay above Goons when it comes to being mature Class A idea! The "I think" was in regards to which GM caught you, not about the fact that some of you've been caught exploiting a few weeks ago *R'adeh waves hands and makes "choochoo" noises _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:41:00 - [97] honestly OP, you should either post with your main in LV, or stfu, becaus if this is your main, you have nothing to discuss in CAOD. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
TheArchJudge Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:58:00 - [98] Edited by: TheArchJudge on 21/02/2007 10:58:43 nvm
Davey Locke VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:59:00 - [99] Well Done Lads!!! The freighter of beer and strippers is on its way down...
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 10:59:00 - [100] Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 21/02/2007 11:07:55 From a grunt who has been in just about every fight since F4R2: 1-Regardless of eventual outcome it would be nice if the pointless **-talk would cease from all sides. And tarring the vast majority of LV pilots with the smack brush is getting really old. 2-For most of us (friends and enemies alike) the already discussed-to-death JV1V was not a fight. It would have been fun had CCP been able to sustain the numbers within the node to see how it played out. It's too bad most of us spent the wee hours of the morning staring at a black logon screen. With regard to yesterday's assault by RA and pals on JV1V they brought a bigger stick. Simple as that. 3-I logged out last night prior to events in 77s. My honest understanding is there was a CCP reset in system that caused a sov bug. If the advantage was taken after that-well....whatever. Who knows...I certainly don't. 4-The enemy did not kill a Titan. They killed a bunch of minerals destined to become one. 5-It appears that CCP fully condone logon/logoff and node crash tactics. If this is how they wish to see the game evolve thats up to them. But it's not a whole lot of fun to play that way...regardless of side. I think most players on all sides would again far prefer a real fight than resorting to boring "tactics" such as these. 6-The race/creed/nationality/etc offensive comments, shipnames etc are disgusting. This is supposed to be a game...not a forum for individual real life social and political ignorance. 7-To LV pilots thinking of doing ignorant stuff such as smart-bombing Jita....STFU and give the rest of us your stuff to fight with. Don't be a tool with some sort of misguided protest at events ingame. 8-To LV enemies...the fight is raging. And will continue to do so. And finally...a special comment just for Liquid Vision: Nobody gives a who you are. Nobody cares for your useless posts. Actually--go yourself choad boy EDITAnd by the way-for the low life spy on the LV forums who is hinting at grandiose LV plans to crash nodes and/or smart bomb Jita....the stupid thread suggesting that was flamed and locked. Next time post accurately you slimey green afterbirth of a goat-** "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the ** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA

Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:03:00 - [101] Yeah, I am very bitter about the entire situation. As LV we always knew that we would only remain "king of the hill" for so long until people came in superior numbers that wanted to take away what we have. This has now happened, but what we didnt expect was that in just a couple of critical days, that due to THE GAME ITSELF not working that we would be completely rolled over in our most important systems without even the chance to put up a defence. I cite the JV1V 6 NODE CRASH & the current 77s Sov debacle as major incidents among many that have all conspired to **** us over. NONE of these two events were within our control, or the enemy control, but the end result is the same. 1.5 Years of building, creating an empire destroyed by two "game mechanic" screw ups in the space of a few days. There are SO many bitter people in LV right now it's just unbelievable. Our enemies can take joy in that, but CCP needs to think hard about this as if we are going down, we are going to document this episode HEAVILY until CCP is forced to address the problems with their game. LV appreciates that a proper reimbursement of our Titan POS was never going to happen. It's too big a can of worms for CCP to wan't to open no matter how cast-iron our petittion was. After the recent Dev scandal, just imagine the amount of forum hype and bad mouthing CCP would have gotten if they had had the balls to take our petittion seriously. Afterall, the combined voice (and subs) of CA / Goon / Tau / RA / + All the other BoB haters is potentially more damaging to CCP than the voice of LV alone. I love EVE, have done for 4 years now but this whole experience has rocked my belief in the game to the point where I'm about to jack it all in (no you can't have my stuff ) It was fun while it lasted guys. M.Corp BPC Packages
hybridundertaker Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:05:00 - [102] Originally by: Liquid Vision Originally by: hybridundertaker bla bla. Actually LV alts (I'm assuming because no one else would be that lame) have been spamming my business thread saying I'm a corp thief and that I stole a 1 billion ISK battleship BPO and things like that. They must be REALLY sore about that self-destructing dreadnought and losing all those stations. But yeah. . .I'll post when and where I like and who's to say I'm not down there doing the pew-pew as well. Just because I consider this to be my main doesn't mean I don't have other guys going shooty-shooty elsewhere. Besides, I help the war effort in other ways with this character. ok makes sense EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:09:00 - [103] Originally by: RuleoftheBone From a grunt who has been in just about every fight since F4R2: 7-To LV pilots thinking of doing ignorant stuff such as smart-bombing Jita....STFU and give the rest of us your stuff to fight with. Don't be a tool with some sort of misguided protest at events ingame. 8-To LV enemies...the fight is raging. And will continue to do so. This post proves that you can't generalise alliances. Thx for not being one of the bitter ones resorting to name calling or stupid Jita griefer ideas! Wish we had more players like that in this game! _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
The Slayer Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:12:00 - [104] If (and this is a big IF) what LV guys are saying is true does that not mean they should retain the station?? I mean they lost Sov dues to CCP incompitence or a bug or somesuch other stuff. Shouldnt they get the station back? I'm no great fan of LV/BoCCPDEVS but I mean fairs fair y'know.
Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:14:00 - [105] Originally by: The Slayer If (and this is a big IF) what LV guys are saying is true does that not mean they should retain the station?? I mean they lost Sov dues to CCP incompitence or a bug or somesuch other stuff. Shouldnt they get the station back? I'm no great fan of LV/BoCCPDEVS but I mean fairs fair y'know. Ofcourse they will get the station back, something as stupid as what happened with that will ofcourse be fixed; apparently after downtime. However what happened in jv1 what nothing but pathetic... Those who claim the node was not intentionally crashed seriously makes me sick, almost if not more so than the devs / gm's who seem to condone this sort of game play.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:16:00 - [106] Originally by: R'adeh Originally by: RuleoftheBone This post proves that you can't generalise alliances. Thx for not being one of the bitter ones resorting to name calling or stupid Jita griefer ideas! Wish we had more players like that in this game! The vast majority of the players in the game would-I suspect-feel this way. Its the twerp minority that attempt to wreck it for the others who were playing for fun (CCP take note...but you won't ) "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
Lenaria Caldari Draconis Navitas Aeterna	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:16:00 - [107] LV are like little crying babies... JV1V lag was nothing exceptional. Such node crashes happend ALL the times last 2 years in any war. In RA vs LV/V/KOS/etc. war node crached literally dayly. Shall we remember C-J? With 600 Coalition (OLD coalition!) pilots in system ? By the time LV cryed what stupid crashes favors RA defenders so much what its not funny... Shall we remeber 1V & KZF? Crashes all the time again... There is absolutly NOTHING new in JV1V crashes. Except what its now LV territory. RaGoons & Co destroyed all LV allies (and there was a LOT of them, full LV/V/KOS/ etc coalition was like 10k pilots). LV is just the last step, they thinked what they didnt lost they stations until now becouse they are so great - nope, mistake. They didnt lost stations becouse RA was busy with they betrayed pets KOS/V/ERA/etc. Now its LV under attack, and they lose stations just like anyone else. And experience node crashes just like anyone else. LV was always sharing "most smacking" forum title with BOB - now they just proved that title.
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:18:00 - [108] If you write like that for your English language paper... You can expect an F. M.Corp BPC Packages
TheArchJudge Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:19:00 - [109] Originally by: Lenaria LV are like little crying babies... JV1V lag was nothing exceptional. Such node crashes happend ALL the times last 2 years in any war. In RA vs LV/V/KOS/etc. war node crached literally dayly. Shall we remember C-J? With 600 Coalition (OLD coalition!) pilots in system ? By the time LV cryed what stupid crashes favors RA defenders so much what its not funny... Shall we remeber 1V & KZF? Crashes all the time again... There is absolutly NOTHING new in JV1V crashes. Except what its now LV territory. RaGoons & Co destroyed all LV allies (and there was a LOT of them, full LV/V/KOS/ etc coalition was like 10k pilots). LV is just the last step, they thinked what they didnt lost they stations until now becouse they are so great - nope, mistake. They didnt lost stations becouse RA was busy with they betrayed pets KOS/V/ERA/etc. Now its LV under attack, and they lose stations just like anyone else. And experience node crashes just like anyone else. LV was always sharing "most smacking" forum title with BOB - now they just proved that title. Ok, you can post with your main now
Zeveron Generals Of Destruction Syndicate X-PACT	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:19:00 - [110] Originally by: Lenaria LV are like little crying babies... JV1V lag was nothing exceptional. Such node crashes happend ALL the times last 2 years in any war. In RA vs LV/V/KOS/etc. war node crached literally dayly. Shall we remember C-J? With 600 Coalition (OLD coalition!) pilots in system ? By the time LV cryed what stupid crashes favors RA defenders so much what its not funny... Shall we remeber 1V & KZF? Crashes all the time again... There is absolutly NOTHING new in JV1V crashes. Except what its now LV territory. RaGoons & Co destroyed all LV allies (and there was a LOT of them, full LV/V/KOS/ etc coalition was like 10k pilots). LV is just the last step, they thinked what they didnt lost they stations until now becouse they are so great - nope, mistake. They didnt lost stations becouse RA was busy with they betrayed pets KOS/V/ERA/etc. Now its LV under attack, and they lose stations just like anyone else. And experience node crashes just like anyone else. LV was always sharing "most smacking" forum title with BOB - now they just proved that title. paragraphs are your friend :-) ----------------------------------

RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:22:00 - [111] Originally by: Lenaria Prime example of what I pointed out above... See what I mean In any event...lag is one thing-fair enough. Server crash/operator node reset is a different case. Pointless arguement. Move along...nothing else to see here. Return to space and fight it out there "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:22:00 - [112] Originally by: Lenaria LV are like little crying babies... JV1V lag was nothing exceptional. Such node crashes happend ALL the times last 2 years in any war. In RA vs LV/V/KOS/etc. war node crached literally dayly. Shall we remember C-J? With 600 Coalition (OLD coalition!) pilots in system ? By the time LV cryed what stupid crashes favors RA defenders so much what its not funny... Shall we remeber 1V & KZF? Crashes all the time again... There is absolutly NOTHING new in JV1V crashes. Except what its now LV territory. RaGoons & Co destroyed all LV allies (and there was a LOT of them, full LV/V/KOS/ etc coalition was like 10k pilots). LV is just the last step, they thinked what they didnt lost they stations until now becouse they are so great - nope, mistake. They didnt lost stations becouse RA was busy with they betrayed pets KOS/V/ERA/etc. Now its LV under attack, and they lose stations just like anyone else. And experience node crashes just like anyone else. LV was always sharing "most smacking" forum title with BOB - now they just proved that title. You simply are a moron, there is no other way to describe you after that sorta post.
Captain Plum	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:23:00 - [113] Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. You know LV is beat when there using there enemies excuses. Except that BOB was caught working with a developer
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:25:00 - [114] Originally by: Velios If you write like that for your English language paper... You can expect an F. Regardless of the content of his/her post u might want to activate that brain mod and stop insulting ppls english abilities. Not all of eve-community writes english perfectly as you do , since they actually might not be native english.
Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:26:00 - [115] Originally by: Captain Plum Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. You know LV is beat when there using there enemies excuses. Except that BOB was caught working with a developer As you dont have your corp ticket / alliance ticket and eve is in DT I can only persume you are on the ragoon side... How can you honestly deny or even make comment towards what Pattonator said? It was CCP's **** up, how do you explain an entire system loosing sov with online POS's?
Severian Maura	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:28:00 - [116] Originally by: Jake Noble Originally by: Captain Plum Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. You know LV is beat when there using there enemies excuses. Except that BOB was caught working with a developer As you dont have your corp ticket / alliance ticket and eve is in DT I can only persume you are on the ragoon side... How can you honestly deny or even make comment towards what Pattonator said? It was CCP's ** up, how do you explain an entire system loosing sov with online POS's? Look at the ascn war posts you will see ascn complaining a ton about situations like, this and you will also see bob lovers saying its game mechanics its fair stop beeing a p*y. Now the tables are turned.
DOGNOSH Minmatar Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:31:00 - [117] Originally by: Velios Yeah, I am very bitter about the entire situation.........I'm about to jack it all in you just showed us,with your post, that we need more like you and less like the foul mouthed Ruleofthebone stick with it your enemy, dognosh -------------------------
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:32:00 - [118] Edited by: Victor Vision on 21/02/2007 11:32:05 Edited by: Victor Vision on 21/02/2007 11:30:56 Originally by: Velios Yeah, I am very bitter about the entire situation. As LV we always knew that we would only remain "king of the hill" for so long until people came in superior numbers that wanted to take away what we have. This has now happened, but what we didnt expect was that in just a couple of critical days, that due to THE GAME ITSELF not working that we would be completely rolled over in our most important systems without even the chance to put up a defence. I cite the JV1V 6 NODE CRASH & the current 77s Sov debacle as major incidents among many that have all conspired to **** us over. NONE of these two events were within our control, or the enemy control, but the end result is the same. 1.5 Years of building, creating an empire destroyed by two "game mechanic" screw ups in the space of a few days. There are SO many bitter people in LV right now it's just unbelievable. Our enemies can take joy in that, but CCP needs to think hard about this as if we are going down, we are going to document this episode HEAVILY until CCP is forced to address the problems with their game. LV appreciates that a proper reimbursement of our Titan POS was never going to happen. It's too big a can of worms for CCP to wan't to open no matter how cast-iron our petittion was. After the recent Dev scandal, just imagine the amount of forum hype and bad mouthing CCP would have gotten if they had had the balls to take our petittion seriously. Afterall, the combined voice (and subs) of CA / Goon / Tau / RA / + All the other BoB haters is potentially more damaging to CCP than the voice of LV alone. I love EVE, have done for 4 years now but this whole experience has rocked my belief in the game to the point where I'm about to jack it all in (no you can't have my stuff ) It was fun while it lasted guys. Mr. Velios, node crashes are not good. I think all reasonable persons will agree with that. However what brings destruction and mayhem over LV is not node crashes. It is a numericaly superior and highly motivated fleet of enemies. Many of them as highly skilled in pvp as the best. LV will die because of its association with BoB. Let this be a warning to all those alliances still fighting alongside BoB. It is still time to abandon BoB and fight alongside the coalition, or move out of the area. The war is far from over. Have a nice day, VV In my business there is no black, nor white. Just a million different shades of grey.
Aceonfire Caldari JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:34:00 - [119] Originally by: Jake Noble Originally by: The Slayer If (and this is a big IF) what LV guys are saying is true does that not mean they should retain the station?? I mean they lost Sov dues to CCP incompitence or a bug or somesuch other stuff. Shouldnt they get the station back? I'm no great fan of LV/BoCCPDEVS but I mean fairs fair y'know. Ofcourse they will get the station back, something as stupid as what happened with that will ofcourse be fixed; apparently after downtime. However what happened in jv1 what nothing but pathetic... Those who claim the node was not intentionally crashed seriously makes me sick, almost if not more so than the devs / gm's who seem to condone this sort of game play. RA, and Goon know that the station should still be in the hands of LV. They knew exactly how many pos's were ours, (all but 1) in that system, and they should know that shooting the station under those circumstances is nothing but, wait for it, yet another flawed game mechanic. Instead of informing their members of this, trolls and alts of trolls are sent to the forums and proclaim some glorious victory. This is typical of the goons though, no surprise. (and they have so many people supporting them why?) Many people in LV are discouraged over the events of the last week, with good reason. As has been said so many times, the only way to really defeat an alliance in this game, is to tear them apart from the inside. RAGOONS and company have not nor could not do this. The only reason LV is discouraged, is because CCP has dropped the ball entirely with this conflict. The only way RAGOONS and co. will win this conflict will be due to a broken game. They lack the skill to do it otherwise. They lack the resolve to do it otherwise. And more importantly, they lack the character to do it anyway but using broken game mechanics. And CCP said they would never dumb down the game - psshh
Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:34:00 - [120] Originally by: Severian Maura Originally by: Jake Noble Originally by: Captain Plum Originally by: Pattonator Are we surprised? CCP screws up again. A bunch of POS's were offlined for 1 minute for no apparent reason and not by LV. Sovereignty goes neutral. And LV and BOB get accused of owning or bribing GM's. This game is so screwed. There are a bunch of online POS's in 77S. Congratulations on winning by cheating again. You know LV is beat when there using there enemies excuses. Except that BOB was caught working with a developer As you dont have your corp ticket / alliance ticket and eve is in DT I can only persume you are on the ragoon side... How can you honestly deny or even make comment towards what Pattonator said? It was CCP's ** up, how do you explain an entire system loosing sov with online POS's? Look at the ascn war posts you will see ascn complaining a ton about situations like, this and you will also see bob lovers saying its game mechanics its fair stop beeing a p*y. Now the tables are turned. Game mechanics? How? LV reported via petition that the 77s pos's showed having no shields, a GM game in and fixed them by offlining them for 1 minute and re-on lining them or w/e he did... This caused sovereignty loss how is that a game mechanic? It was something a GM did that screwed up sov...

RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:36:00 - [121] Originally by: DOGNOSH Originally by: Velios Yeah, I am very bitter about the entire situation.........I'm about to jack it all in you just showed us,with your post, that we need more like you and less like the foul mouthed Ruleofthebone stick with it your enemy, dognosh Yup...I confess...I have a foul nasty evil mouth. But yet somehow literate and readable BTW...are you also LV enemies? I have lost track at this point. Sigh....adds another name to the list "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
Kastar Chronodynamics	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:37:00 - [122] Reading the last week's worth of posts makes me wanna cry. What Eve needs today is two things: - CCP get their act together and respond to bugs/issues/incidents swift and thorough like they used to do in the beginning. - Most of the people involved in this global war take a deep breath, find themselves a sport or other hobby for a few days, cool down, make it less personal, and only then, after a while return to shooting spaceships in a computer game. It's always been fun reading up in here, but what people throw at each other recently is madness. That said, I'm going to do what many do, take a break from these boards and trying to have fun ingame. One more thing though... I can't speak for LV, but I had some business deals with MCORP recently, and I've been a frequent customer of them in the past. There were a few delays seen the nature of my order and the circumstances, but these guys pulled through for their customers in what's a difficult time for them. Communication was excellent and everyboy was briefed. In short, I can hardly believe the stuff that's being thrown at them on this board. For an outsider, they are extremely trustworthy and look hardworking. I can hardly believe they would put up with other corps not similar to them. Credit where credit is due. Kas -----------------------------------------------
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:41:00 - [123] Edited by: Plutoinum on 21/02/2007 11:39:39 Originally by: Kirex Maybe you should online all the small POS you spamed instead of keeping them offline? I remember Shinra/the 5 got all *****y when RA were small pos spaming...Hypocrites? If you don't have full moon-coverage, the attacker spams towers, instead of attacking your poses. A no-brainer. During [5] vs. RA, pos spammage was new, game-mechanics was also a bit different, a small tower cost 40mil or so and the whole pos warfare was not so advanced, like it is now. Nowadays dozens of POS are normal, like dozens of dreads are normal, like spending billions on pos fuel. People have adapted to this game mechanics, because if you don't put up a pos, your enemy does it, instead of attacking a battlestar pos, because anchoring a tower is easier and less risk. Anyway, all blabla, let's see, how it goes on. Hope it goes on. Personally I'd rather switch corp&alliance, before I have goonfleet+co. napped for convenience. For me it's over, when Goonies are defeated. ( Personally no diplomatic nap-bullsh... for me for convenience anytime soon, I said that already when V disbanded and I still see it the same way ) _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.
Admiral Goberius Amarr The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:42:00 - [124] Velios sov bugs and code failures strike against EVERY alliance in the game at some point or another, you arent special. The difference is when it happens to someone else people generally laugh and dismiss it as a whine, but then its not really as funny when you become the victim is it? - Gob ________ Alt of Goberth Ludwig
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:42:00 - [125] I dont like the fact we got the station because of a CCP problem, I dont agree with those things. However I got thinking about it, and came up with a solution. We'll give you back the station, if you give the MS you cheated to win back to CCP
Admiral Goberius Amarr The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:42:00 - [126] Edited by: Admiral Goberius on 21/02/2007 11:40:03 double post ________ Alt of Goberth Ludwig
DOGNOSH Minmatar Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:44:00 - [127] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: DOGNOSH Originally by: Velios Yeah, I am very bitter about the entire situation.........I'm about to jack it all in you just showed us,with your post, that we need more like you and less like the foul mouthed Ruleofthebone stick with it your enemy, dognosh Yup...I confess...I have a foul nasty evil mouth. But yet somehow literate and readable BTW...are you also LV enemies? I have lost track at this point. Sigh....adds another name to the list erm, I think at best we dislike each other so much war yours from somerset, dognosh -------------------------
Electric Cucumber Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:46:00 - [128] Originally by: Aceonfire The only way RAGOONS and co. will win this conflict will be due to a broken game. They lack the skill to do it otherwise. They lack the resolve to do it otherwise. And more importantly, they lack the character to do it anyway but using broken game mechanics. And CCP said they would never dumb down the game - psshh Typical from LV, it's always the others fault
Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:46:00 - [129] Edited by: Jake Noble on 21/02/2007 11:45:28 Originally by: KIATolon I dont like the fact we got the station because of a CCP problem, I dont agree with those things. However I got thinking about it, and came up with a solution. We'll give you back the station, if you give the MS you cheated to win back to CCP Or how about LV get the station back in 3 minutes 30 seconds :) The MS " cheat " has never been proven until it is, its just speculation.
Aceonfire Caldari JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:50:00 - [130] Edited by: Aceonfire on 21/02/2007 11:47:33 Originally by: Electric Cucumber Originally by: Aceonfire The only way RAGOONS and co. will win this conflict will be due to a broken game. They lack the skill to do it otherwise. They lack the resolve to do it otherwise. And more importantly, they lack the character to do it anyway but using broken game mechanics. And CCP said they would never dumb down the game - psshh Typical from LV, it's always the others fault Hmm and I suppose you have an argument that shows anything I said isnt the truth? No? So then your just a forum troll, upset that your isk farming operations were disrupted then? I can here it now, "Isk farming, who? us?"

KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:52:00 - [131] I have logs, it wont prove anything to you but it proves it to me, and I'm the one making the offer.
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 11:53:00 - [132] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 21/02/2007 11:07:55 From a grunt who has been in just about every fight since F4R2: 1-Regardless of eventual outcome it would be nice if the pointless **-talk would cease from all sides. And tarring the vast majority of LV pilots with the smack brush is getting really old. 2-For most of us (friends and enemies alike) the already discussed-to-death JV1V was not a fight. It would have been fun had CCP been able to sustain the numbers within the node to see how it played out. It's too bad most of us spent the wee hours of the morning staring at a black logon screen. With regard to yesterday's assault by RA and pals on JV1V they brought a bigger stick. Simple as that. 3-I logged out last night prior to events in 77s. My honest understanding is there was a CCP reset in system that caused a sov bug. If the advantage was taken after that-well....whatever. Who knows...I certainly don't. 4-The enemy did not kill a Titan. They killed a bunch of minerals destined to become one. 5-It appears that CCP fully condone logon/logoff and node crash tactics. If this is how they wish to see the game evolve thats up to them. But it's not a whole lot of fun to play that way...regardless of side. I think most players on all sides would again far prefer a real fight than resorting to boring "tactics" such as these. 6-The race/creed/nationality/etc offensive comments, shipnames etc are disgusting. This is supposed to be a game...not a forum for individual real life social and political ignorance. 7-To LV pilots thinking of doing ignorant stuff such as smart-bombing Jita....STFU and give the rest of us your stuff to fight with. Don't be a tool with some sort of misguided protest at events ingame. 8-To LV enemies...the fight is raging. And will continue to do so. And finally...a special comment just for Liquid Vision: Nobody gives a who you are. Nobody cares for your useless posts. Actually--go yourself choad boy EDITAnd by the way-for the low life spy on the LV forums who is hinting at grandiose LV plans to crash nodes and/or smart bomb Jita....the stupid thread suggesting that was flamed and locked. Next time post accurately you slimey green afterbirth of a goat-** ** Man. . .choad boy. . .damn. That seems like a comment we're SUPPOSED to hear from Goons. . .not the honorable Lotka Volterra. Maybe I should call you guys a buncha "choad boys" for spamming my business thread with nothing but lies to try and ruin my business. See you in empire in a few weeks. . .or a few days if "the game" messes you guys over any more. And prepare to be banned from the forums I think. Not very nice to be throwing around the F-bomb and nonsense in EVE-O. Teenagers DO have poor judgement! Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Bruce Newman Caldari NoobWaffe	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:00:00 - [133] Hm, the problem with using every means to achieve victory is that this leaves no rules to player base made rules of engagement. PvP will never be 100% clean and mistakes do happen, but IMHO player made rules are a huge improvement to PvP. If someone screws up his reputation he won't be allowed in a major alliance. If a alliance does not follow the rules it gets jumped by all other alliances. System in EVE seems pretty much screwed up to me and if CCP can't adapt fast enough the playerbase could still prove itself with rather clean PvP that way. I hope that this war will change the minds of some people - so far the first response from both sides is "exploit exploit!" when the other side wins. But that's really silly - do you expect your opponent to fight fair if you don't do so yourself? Maybe LV just reaps the whirlwind resulting of the wind BoB sowed first. And maybe the BoB members will suffer the same faith Ars Caelestis did once the war outcome is predicteable... There was that job offer - didn't knew it would turn out as a suicide mission - duh!
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:01:00 - [134] Originally by: Aceonfire Originally by: Jake Noble Originally by: The Slayer If (and this is a big IF) what LV guys are saying is true does that not mean they should retain the station?? I mean they lost Sov dues to CCP incompitence or a bug or somesuch other stuff. Shouldnt they get the station back? I'm no great fan of LV/BoCCPDEVS but I mean fairs fair y'know. Ofcourse they will get the station back, something as stupid as what happened with that will ofcourse be fixed; apparently after downtime. However what happened in jv1 what nothing but pathetic... Those who claim the node was not intentionally crashed seriously makes me sick, almost if not more so than the devs / gm's who seem to condone this sort of game play. RA, and Goon know that the station should still be in the hands of LV. They knew exactly how many pos's were ours, (all but 1) in that system, and they should know that shooting the station under those circumstances is nothing but, wait for it, yet another flawed game mechanic. Instead of informing their members of this, trolls and alts of trolls are sent to the forums and proclaim some glorious victory. This is typical of the goons though, no surprise. (and they have so many people supporting them why?) Many people in LV are discouraged over the events of the last week, with good reason. As has been said so many times, the only way to really defeat an alliance in this game, is to tear them apart from the inside. RAGOONS and company have not nor could not do this. The only reason LV is discouraged, is because CCP has dropped the ball entirely with this conflict. The only way RAGOONS and co. will win this conflict will be due to a broken game. They lack the skill to do it otherwise. They lack the resolve to do it otherwise. And more importantly, they lack the character to do it anyway but using broken game mechanics. And CCP said they would never dumb down the game - psshh Seriously, you couldn't propaganda your way out of a wet paper bag. So what "bug", "goondevhaxsploit", or overall "game problem specifically screwing LV and no one else" caused Mr Testy to undock in his dread and proceed to self-destruct it once all the T1 frigs caught him? Just wondering. Since it seems like you guys are getting SUCH bad breaks here lately and EVERYONE is out to get ya I'd like to know how he's gonna petition the loss. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Chewan Mesa Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:05:00 - [135] Edited by: Chewan Mesa on 21/02/2007 12:02:49 Originally by: Aceonfire Hmm and I suppose you have an argument that shows anything I said isnt the truth? No? So then your just a forum troll, upset that your isk farming operations were disrupted then? I can here it now, "Isk farming, who? us?" EC stop Isk-farming!
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:06:00 - [136] Originally by: Liquid Vision Maybe I should call you guys a buncha "choad boys" for spamming my business thread 8)] Business? Whats that got to do with the war? And regarding the choad comment--if it fits in your tiny pants....neener neener neener Now begone insignificant alt roach. Scuttle away under the fridge to feast on garbage "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:07:00 - [137] Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 21/02/2007 12:06:01 Originally by: DOGNOSH Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: DOGNOSH Originally by: Velios Yeah, I am very bitter about the entire situation.........I'm about to jack it all in you just showed us,with your post, that we need more like you and less like the foul mouthed Ruleofthebone stick with it your enemy, dognosh Yup...I confess...I have a foul nasty evil mouth. But yet somehow literate and readable BTW...are you also LV enemies? I have lost track at this point. Sigh....adds another name to the list erm, I think at best we dislike each other so much war yours from somerset, dognosh Hove.....actually...Minmatar possibly enemy mine "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:14:00 - [138] I don't understand that. Are the LV POS still there but just offline? And only one coalition POS online, therefore getting the coalition sov? If that is so then why isn't LV just putting the POS back online? If all my POS were suddenly offline I would call in everyone and their mother to get the hell comming and helping putting back the towers online. No clue what is going on there, maybe someone can help me and enlighten me there?
Liquid Vision Caldari Liquid Research	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:14:00 - [139] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: Liquid Vision Maybe I should call you guys a buncha "choad boys" for spamming my business thread 8)] Business? Whats that got to do with the war? And regarding the choad comment--if it fits in your tiny pants....neener neener neener Now begone insignificant alt roach. Scuttle away under the fridge to feast on garbage Man, seriously. . .you shouldda just flamed away with your 13 yr old. nonsense on an alt instead of this main you seem to be so proud of. I'm gonna miss all your super funny flames when you go on your extended hiatus from EVE-O. Seriously, I'll send ya a postcard and let you know how things are going in your absence. Prolly more LV stations being lost, more dreads undocking and self-destructing, and more whines from LV. . .so don't be too surprised if that's all that happens. I suppose I'm supposed to throw in some lame flame here about your mom knowing all about my "choad" or whatever. . .but really, I just can't seem to find the energy for it. Tired of 30 day plus research wait times? Want to produce your stuff faster? Try Liquid Research!!
Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:21:00 - [140] Originally by: Liquid Vision Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: Liquid Vision Maybe I should call you guys a buncha "choad boys" for spamming my business thread 8)] Business? Whats that got to do with the war? And regarding the choad comment--if it fits in your tiny pants....neener neener neener Now begone insignificant alt roach. Scuttle away under the fridge to feast on garbage Man, seriously. . .you shouldda just flamed away with your 13 yr old. nonsense on an alt instead of this main you seem to be so proud of. I'm gonna miss all your super funny flames when you go on your extended hiatus from EVE-O. Seriously, I'll send ya a postcard and let you know how things are going in your absence. Prolly more LV stations being lost, more dreads undocking and self-destructing, and more whines from LV. . .so don't be too surprised if that's all that happens. I suppose I'm supposed to throw in some lame flame here about your mom knowing all about my "choad" or whatever. . .but really, I just can't seem to find the energy for it. Well if you think about it... That dread pilot wouldnt have needed to if the bug with the sov hadnt happened - as he could have just re-docked. Soooo technically I think he could be in grounds for a reimbursement but then again I am not going to go into that :)

Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:22:00 - [141] Originally by: Liquid Vision Man, seriously. . .you shouldda just flamed away with your 13 yr old. nonsense on an alt instead of this main you seem to be so proud of. I'm gonna miss all your super funny flames when you go on your extended hiatus from EVE-O. Seriously, I'll send ya a postcard and let you know how things are going in your absence. Prolly more LV stations being lost, more dreads undocking and self-destructing, and more whines from LV. . .so don't be too surprised if that's all that happens. I suppose I'm supposed to throw in some lame flame here about your mom knowing all about my "choad" or whatever. . .but really, I just can't seem to find the energy for it. actually, its your kind of posts that a frustrated 13 y/o teenager would most likely produce. ----- Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker At this time I am more disgusted by the player base then with the dev to be honest! QFT!!
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:22:00 - [142] Originally by: Liquid Vision Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: Liquid Vision Business? Whats that got to do with the war? And regarding the choad comment--if it fits in your tiny pants....neener neener neener Now begone insignificant alt roach. Scuttle away under the fridge to feast on garbage Sigh....roach smear always gets stuck to the soles of Minmatar boots....ya just can't shake it off "Lead me...Follow me...Or get the **** out of my way...." -General George Patton USA
Zeveron Generals Of Destruction Syndicate X-PACT	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:23:00 - [143] Originally by: Gnulpie Edited by: Gnulpie on 21/02/2007 12:11:36 I don't understand that. Are the LV POS still there but just offline? And only one coalition POS online, therefore getting the coalition sov? If that is so then why isn't LV just putting the POS back online? If all my POS were suddenly offline I would call in everyone and their mother to get the hell comming and helping putting back the towers online. No clue what is going on there, maybe someone can help me and enlighten me? The one RaGoon large tower claimed system suv, bcs the LV towers didnt do it bcs of the bug that the GM tried to fix, offlining the POSes. So the GM "gave" the system suv to RaGoons. The RaGoons had the chance firing at the station and conquering it. Even onlining the LV POSes would have fixed this, bcs the if there is a enemy POS at the system, it take 5 days to shoot at the station. So the GM should have first offline the RaGoon POS then offline the LV to fix the bug. CCPs incompetence strikes again :-) ----------------------------------
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:24:00 - [144] As an outstander view on LV/Ragoon conflict i would like to add this. Ive been reading these back and forth from when the conflict started between LV and RA. And the smacking has been equal from both sides. Without exception. With a less presence from RA the last months. Bugs is a known feature in this game and we all suffer from them. Its a shame for all parts that this happens, as it ruins the fun of victory. If it is a bug as LV claims, then you should petition it and wait for GM's response. They will most likely fix it. As they have done for other alliances in the past. It happened during the TCF vs MM conflict. And it has happened in countless of other conflicts. And GM's pretty much fixed all of them (with some exceptions as always). This is a long and sore conflict. And i understand the frustration. But jumping on eachothers throats on forum will not solve it. Fight the battles ingame and be polite here. And let the gm's look into the bugs.
Mista Pain Minmatar Goony Hand Social Club	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:27:00 - [145] Originally by: Velios I cite the JV1V 6 NODE CRASH & the current 77s Sov debacle as major incidents among many that have all conspired to ** us over. NONE of these two events were within our control, or the enemy control, but the end result is the same. Oh. Oh! Of course! It was this, wasn't it, Velios? You didn't lose station after station because you systematically hung one ally after the other out to dry like the "meatshields" you saw them as, until half of them were in Empire, and the other half joined the forces arrayed against you! Nor was it your inability to make any effective use of your Titan the way, say, BoB does. Nor was it even your inability to fuel POSs, time strontium so it wouldn't come out in the enemy's primetime, assault hostile control towers without losing sixteen dreads or generally run an alliance at all! This** is where it all went wrong for Lotka Volterra, where sweet victory turned to bitter defeat! Well Velios, worry not. The EVE community will remember well this brave last stand, this refusal to cry bitter tears and to blame anyone but yourself for the failure of your alliance, all that Lotka Volterra stands for now, after a year and a half of building an empire. [Bizzaro EVE will be right back after a brief word from our sponsors]
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:29:00 - [146] Originally by: Zeveron Even onlining the LV POSes would have fixed this, bcs the if there is a enemy POS at the system, it take 5 days to shoot at the station. LOOL, you are kidding! No wonder that LV is upset by this. This becomes every day more absurd. Killing offline titans, node crashes, sov changes due to bugs, shooting through pos shields. Humour is if you are still laughing
Jags Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:29:00 - [147] Originally by: KIATolon I have logs, it wont prove anything to you but it proves it to me, and I'm the one making the offer. Wanna see those logs m8 , can you send them to me or speak in game ? I spotted the thread in the events forum along with one other in our corp and we went for it. As far as I am aware there was no cheating on MCORPs part here
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:32:00 - [148] Originally by: R0ot Edited by: R0ot on 21/02/2007 06:34:49 Originally by: Liquid Vision Why? Not haxsploits or bugs or CCP. . .because they're inept. End of story. Why do I care? Sooner LV gets rolled up the sooner the Swarm start knocking on BOB's door. Okay, i know what to buy the North/Goonies side for next christmas, a dictionary in+ept ûadjective 1.without skill or aptitude for a particular task or assignment; maladroit: He is inept at mechanical tasks. She is inept at dealing with people. 2.generally awkward or clumsy; haplessly incompetent. 3.inappropriate; unsuitable; out of place. 4.absurd or foolish: an inept remark. Now imo thats exactly what goonies are but im sure you ment something else. Also please if the goonies take a station let them post it, if this really is your main character as you are insisting it is then stop stealing their glory. We know what to buy you for christmas as well. The wow expansion.
Otellus Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:34:00 - [149] Originally by: Gnulpie Originally by: Zeveron Even onlining the LV POSes would have fixed this, bcs the if there is a enemy POS at the system, it take 5 days to shoot at the station. LOOL, you are kidding! No wonder that LV is upset by this. This becomes every day more absurd. Killing offline titans, node crashes, sov changes due to bugs, shooting through pos shields. Humour is if you are still laughing What I understand is this: LV had 1 large POS and lots of small POSses in system claiming sovereignty. RAGOON had 1 POS in system claiming sovereignty. All had been up for 5+ days. Then, for some reason, the small POSses get bugged. GM comes, tries to fix them. To do so he offlined them, then onlined them again. Problem ensues. An offline POS loses its claim to sovereignty, and it will take 5 days for the claim to restart. Which means that the only real sovereignty claiming POSses are 1 large LV POS and 1 large RAGOON POS. I.e. they nullify each other, noone has sovereignty, and thus the station can be shot. Does that sum it up correctly?
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:35:00 - [150] Grr, above is me. Bloody forum. -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.

KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:39:00 - [151] Wait so LV only had one large up? And we put up a large and now sov is neutral... and it's a bug?
Riggwelter Caldari Drinkers Appreciation Soiciety	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:40:00 - [152] Originally by: Le Cardinal Bugs is a known feature in this game and we all suffer from them. Its a shame for all parts that this happens, as it ruins the fun of victory. If it is a bug as LV claims, then you should petition it and wait for GM's response. They will most likely fix it. As they have done for other alliances in the past. It happened during the TCF vs MM conflict. And it has happened in countless of other conflicts. And GM's pretty much fixed all of them (with some exceptions as always). This is a long and sore conflict. And i understand the frustration. But jumping on eachothers throats on forum will not solve it. Fight the battles ingame and be polite here. And let the gm's look into the bugs. Was a slighlty different bug that time MM had recaptrued the H-W station after gaining soverienty, the node crashed and when it came back up the station still belonged to MM but had the all the settings from the TCF ownership. Hence the owners couldnt dock at the station and all the hostiles could. We had to wait until DT for the situaiton to wright itself.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:42:00 - [153] Edited by: Malachon Draco on 21/02/2007 12:38:56 Originally by: KIATolon Wait so LV only had one large up? And we put up a large and now sov is neutral... and it's a bug? Well, yes it would be a bug. Not because of the large vs large nullifying each other (that's intended), but because of the bug that caused a GM to reset the small POSes by offlining them and thus losing their sov claim. If the small POS hadn't been bugged and thus needed GM attention, LV would have retained Sov. At least, if my reading of the situation is correct. -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:43:00 - [154] Wrong. Smalls have no claim on sov if a large is in system. If lv had 20,000 smalls and 1 large, and GS had 1 large then sov SHOULD be neutral.
prsr Gallente JuBa Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:46:00 - [155] Originally by: KIATolon I have logs, it wont prove anything to you but it proves it to me This makes you just as profound as every other troll about the subject Tolon. And i don't think it helps to offer something you cannot give. If you have evidence, bring it forth, submit it to CCP and let people look at it. If it's real evidence it will not matter who is looking at it afterall. If you don't bring anything forward, stop wasting peoples time. -- .sig apathy ftw
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:48:00 - [156] out of game logs have no weight with CCP and therefore there's no point. I am just pointing out that "I" have a reason to believe it. I can just as easily falsify logs as dig them up and so I dont expect you to believe me.
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:50:00 - [157] Originally by: Riggwelter Edited by: Riggwelter on 21/02/2007 12:37:07 Originally by: Le Cardinal Bugs is a known feature in this game and we all suffer from them. Its a shame for all parts that this happens, as it ruins the fun of victory. If it is a bug as LV claims, then you should petition it and wait for GM's response. They will most likely fix it. As they have done for other alliances in the past. It happened during the TCF vs MM conflict. And it has happened in countless of other conflicts. And GM's pretty much fixed all of them (with some exceptions as always). This is a long and sore conflict. And i understand the frustration. But jumping on eachothers throats on forum will not solve it. Fight the battles ingame and be polite here. And let the gm's look into the bugs. Was a slighlty different bug that time MM had recaptrued the H-W station after gaining soverienty, the node crashed and when it came back up the station still belonged to MM but had the all the settings from the TCF ownership. Hence the owners couldnt dock at the station and all the hostiles could. We had to wait until DT for the situaiton to wright itself. Yes you are absolutely right iirc. But nevertheless a couple of gm's came and stopped the fighting until it was investigated and demanded a cease fire. So they kinda sorted it anyways
Lenaria Caldari Draconis Navitas Aeterna	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:30:00 - [158] Originally by: Valkazm Agree, Its a simple fact that Goons and co are using numbers that Eve cannot handle, im not sure they even care about LV space to be honest. what would goons do with Omist? Goonswarm alliance: 3025 members LV alliance : 2749 members Any other questions about "never ever seen" swarm of goons? =============================================== LV are like little crying babies... Full story
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:43:00 - [159] JV1V is in RedSwarm hands. BoB has given some LV corps a kind offer to become pets. The cascade continues.
Kam SingDu'k Singularity.	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:49:00 - [160] Originally by: The Mittani JV1V is in RedSwarm hands. BoB has given some LV corps a kind offer to become pets. The cascade continues. :D i like.... hi five!!! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Taiatia (mods@ccpgames)

BlackDog Rackh'am Minmatar Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:53:00 - [161] We are not allowed to post GM correspondence here, but there are other wonderful forums where these things get leaked. Enjoy Btw, the scrapheap is the best community forum by far. Excellent moderation, you either behave or be an ass and shown the way out, which means a good signal to noise ratio. I am mainly getting war updates from there, as people on opposing sides can actually maintain some common decency to eachother. Originally by: Eloryan Persago, Goonfleet I welcome you to the coalition of people with user access to EvE
KIATolon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.22 14:55:00 - [162] Originally by: Crellion Did you all die or did you have "emergency warps"? No, this is what happened from my point of view. We were heavily out gunned on the gate, and their caps were engaging one of our POS. I decided to take the fight to our POS to have those guns on our side. We jumped into local in waves and held cloak. I trash talked them for a few seconds then gave the order to put some remote reps on me. I de-cloaked, the entire fleet pounded on me, I held out for a while, I died, most of the rest of the fleet were out of the bubble by that time, I gang warped us to the POS, we killed 2 of their dreads, and then bubbled their fleet whilst letting the pos guns even things up accounting for their fighters. I sensed chow was about to come on so we get bubbles on their major bs groups and I called an align, which people did - I saw a lone ship come in, we gang warped out, chow killed a lot of his ships, we warped back in and finished them off.
Royaldo Old Farts	Posted - 2007.02.22 15:04:00 - [163] want to rent space!
Diana Marc Fourteen Points	Posted - 2007.02.22 15:25:00 - [164] Originally by: Valkazm There overwhelming beacuse they have dedicated players i mean wasent ASCN the biggest alliance once and did they have the same activity as the goons have .. what your bassicly saying they shouldnt win beacuse they have huge numbers and it creates lag on the contrary i think you will notice that eve is heading in the right way pushing some of theese aside to open up a new political arena aswell as new oportunities for say new players .. remember Goons dont discriminate like most alliances .. /signed The older alliances think you're worthless unless you have lots of assets and battleships and 20m skill points. RaGoon members fly T1 frigates and cruisers and know how to use them. All this whining boils down to "waaah waaah my T2 battleship got blown up by a pack of frigates and cruisers with less SP than me CCP please give me back my stuff." It's evolution -- if LV can't adapt to the new environment, they deserve to die.
Jake Noble Amarr Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.02.22 15:28:00 - [165] Quote: The older alliances think you're worthless unless you have lots of assets and battleships and 20m skill points. RaGoon members fly T1 frigates and cruisers and know how to use them. Correction, Goons fly t1 frigs and cruisers and do not know how to use them... RA do not stoop to that level.
Myrddin Emiris Prizm Ventures Ltd.	Posted - 2007.02.22 15:29:00 - [166] Originally by: Diana Marc Originally by: Valkazm There overwhelming beacuse they have dedicated players i mean wasent ASCN the biggest alliance once and did they have the same activity as the goons have .. what your bassicly saying they shouldnt win beacuse they have huge numbers and it creates lag on the contrary i think you will notice that eve is heading in the right way pushing some of theese aside to open up a new political arena aswell as new oportunities for say new players .. remember Goons dont discriminate like most alliances .. /signed The older alliances think you're worthless unless you have lots of assets and battleships and 20m skill points. RaGoon members fly T1 frigates and cruisers and know how to use them. All this whining boils down to "waaah waaah my T2 battleship got blown up by a pack of frigates and cruisers with less SP than me CCP please give me back my stuff." It's evolution -- if LV can't adapt to the new environment, they deserve to die. And die they will....
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:34:00 - [167] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: Crellion Did you all die or did you have "emergency warps"? No, this is what happened from my point of view. We were heavily out gunned on the gate, and their caps were engaging one of our POS. I decided to take the fight to our POS to have those guns on our side. We jumped into local in waves and held cloak. I trash talked them for a few seconds then gave the order to put some remote reps on me. I de-cloaked, the entire fleet pounded on me, I held out for a while, I died, most of the rest of the fleet were out of the bubble by that time, I gang warped us to the POS, we killed 2 of their dreads, and then bubbled their fleet whilst letting the pos guns even things up accounting for their fighters. I sensed chow was about to come on so we get bubbles on their major bs groups and I called an align, which people did - I saw a lone ship come in, we gang warped out, chow killed a lot of his ships, we warped back in and finished them off. Sounds like good strategy to be fair. But clarify please 3 more points. 1) How did the majority of the fleet get out of the bubbles (of 40 kms or so I was told) in the time it took 1 BS to go down to 150 + fighters? 2) How come you gangwarped people to POS while dying to 150 guns? I have had tht happen to me and usually you lag out from half shields to wake up in station. 3) What happened to the LV fleet of 150+ support? Did they not also warp to the POS right behind you? Or were you 150 vs 150 at the POS and you still killed them and their capitals? I am asking becaue i have heard reports that the first "Coallition" wave died because the node held. Then the second wave crashed the node. Then no one in the system could move but the 3rd and 4th waves managed to jump through and go to the POS. Still cool use of numbers I guess (though perhaps against the much debated game mechanics? dont know) but a whole different story from your initial post. I dont know these things its just what I heard. Please clarify for me. Ty. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:40:00 - [168] Originally by: Crellion Sounds like good strategy to be fair. But clarify please 3 more points. 1) How did the majority of the fleet get out of the bubbles (of 40 kms or so I was told) in the time it took 1 BS to go down to 150 + fighters? 2) How come you gangwarped people to POS while dying to 150 guns? I have had tht happen to me and usually you lag out from half shields to wake up in station. 3) What happened to the LV fleet of 150+ support? Did they not also warp to the POS right behind you? Or were you 150 vs 150 at the POS and you still killed them and their capitals? I am asking becaue i have heard reports that the first "Coallition" wave died because the node held. Then the second wave crashed the node. Then no one in the system could move but the 3rd and 4th waves managed to jump through and go to the POS. Still cool use of numbers I guess (though perhaps against the much debated game mechanics? dont know) but a whole different story from your initial post. I dont know these things its just what I heard. Please clarify for me. Ty. If i may try and anwser these things for Kiatolon. 1. More ships were lost than just 1 bs when jumping in, also it is called an mwd. 2. Once in a pod he wasn't targeted from what i can tell. 3. I saw ranged snipers plus some assorted smaller ships warp in to help the dreads, but the pos was pretty ruthless and i guess not all wanted to brave the pos guns. But yes they did follow and yes we did still kill their capitals. I hope that clears some of that up. ---- Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] -Targoviste
Heldane Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:42:00 - [169] Wasn't it just a short time ago that LV outnumbered GoonSwarm on the alliance population list? I keep seeing LV crying about goons and their overwhelming numbers, but LV is a huge alliance and were larger than everyone. Both alliances number near 3000 members and it isn't the goon's fault if 75% of your members would rather rat and mine than defend their territory. Every time an LV member makes a post about the numbers, cheating and other general useless smack it only makes them look worse. The way you people whine and moan I'd be surprised if any of the BoB friendly alliances would welcome you.
Azrael Bierce Cult of Lemen	Posted - 2007.02.22 17:57:00 - [170] Originally by: Heldane Wasn't it just a short time ago that LV outnumbered GoonSwarm on the alliance population list? I keep seeing LV crying about goons and their overwhelming numbers, but LV is a huge alliance and were larger than everyone. Both alliances number near 3000 members and it isn't the goon's fault if 75% of your members would rather rat and mine than defend their territory. If LV is anything like ASCN, a ton of those people are alts. Survey on the ASCN forum had a large number of people with 4+ accounts.

Cvuos GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.22 19:01:00 - [171] Originally by: Crellion Sounds like good strategy to be fair. But clarify please 3 more points. 1) How did the majority of the fleet get out of the bubbles (of 40 kms or so I was told) in the time it took 1 BS to go down to 150 + fighters? 2) How come you gangwarped people to POS while dying to 150 guns? I have had tht happen to me and usually you lag out from half shields to wake up in station. 3) What happened to the LV fleet of 150+ support? Did they not also warp to the POS right behind you? Or were you 150 vs 150 at the POS and you still killed them and their capitals? I am asking becaue i have heard reports that the first "Coallition" wave died because the node held. Then the second wave crashed the node. Then no one in the system could move but the 3rd and 4th waves managed to jump through and go to the POS. Still cool use of numbers I guess (though perhaps against the much debated game mechanics? dont know) but a whole different story from your initial post. I dont know these things its just what I heard. Please clarify for me. Ty. I'll probably get fined for this, but I thought I should mention that you are talking about a different battle. When we killed the Capship array, we had no pos in system. The battle Tolon is talking about was when LV were testing our reaction time and attacking the pos we set up in place of the Titan builder.
Bodark Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.02.22 22:50:00 - [172] Originally by: Valkazm Agree, Its a simple fact that Goons and co are using numbers that Eve cannot handle, im not sure they even care about LV space to be honest. what would goons do with Omist? If the Goons were not in this war the numbers would be fairly even, it would make the war more interesting, less lag, use of tactics for both sides. But now it seems you can win simply by overwhelming numbers, This imo is bad for eve. There overwhelming beacuse they have dedicated players i mean wasent ASCN the biggest alliance once and did they have the same activity as the goons have .. 3 weeks old "dedicated" players ftw
Silas Linch Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.23 00:35:00 - [173] Originally by: Bodark Originally by: Valkazm Agree, Its a simple fact that Goons and co are using numbers that Eve cannot handle, im not sure they even care about LV space to be honest. what would goons do with Omist? If the Goons were not in this war the numbers would be fairly even, it would make the war more interesting, less lag, use of tactics for both sides. But now it seems you can win simply by overwhelming numbers, This imo is bad for eve. There overwhelming beacuse they have dedicated players i mean wasent ASCN the biggest alliance once and did they have the same activity as the goons have .. 3 weeks old "dedicated" players ftw keep in mind that most of us knew each other from SA long before we joined the swarm. whatev.
Heldane Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.02.23 00:51:00 - [174] Edited by: Heldane on 23/02/2007 00:48:49 I can't believe that some of you still fall for this goons are all newbies and fly T1 frigates garbage. I've been reading about various goon wars on these forums for a year now. It might be possible that a few of them decided to train their skills during that time and they probably have a fair amount of combat experience considering they have been fighting pretty much non stop since last fall. I would even hazard a guess that the average goon player has more combat experience than 90% of the people they are fighting. Add to this the fact that killboards mean nothing to them and its no wonder LV is getting massacred.
Ackaroth Gallente Plundering Penguins	Posted - 2007.02.23 00:55:00 - [175] Agreed with above. Has no one noticed they have a capfleet? May not be the biggest, but not a t1 frig by any means. Either stand up to them or stop whining about the tactics they used when they were a brand new group. Originally by: Hamatitio "Oregon Trail ALliance [Wagon]" Description: You Caught Malaria and died. Plundering Penguins is recruiting. Convo/Evemail, or join channel PING1 in game.
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.02.23 01:32:00 - [176] its ignorant to discount any enemy as worthless at best, at worst its suicidal. add to that fact goons have a hell of alot of numbers and a growing capital fleet to use those numbers in, with some potent comrades they are a serious force and ignoring that or treating it as anything less then it is, is just plain stupid but go on ahead discounting em to ease your subconscious fears a bit more.... personally I would rather take every moment I have to learn how to beat em then sit there and pass em off as no threat Originally by: Stamm Some people might have been convinced by the official announcement posted by Steelrat, but not me, I wasn't convinced until some random alt posts a brand new thread.
Diana Marc Fourteen Points	Posted - 2007.02.23 01:49:00 - [177] Originally by: Ackaroth Agreed with above. Has no one noticed they have a capfleet? May not be the biggest, but not a t1 frig by any means. Either stand up to them or stop whining about the tactics they used when they were a brand new group. Apparently the goonies have stooped so low as to crash nodes by deploying their hopelessly obsolete T1 capital fleet! That would explain why the goonies haven't seen LV capital ships in days -- they're a "tech two alliance", so I guess the goonies will be seeing their mighty tech two capital hulls any day now! Or maybe LV is just doomed.
Duke Grail Darkblade Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.23 02:22:00 - [178] Originally by: Jags IMO the one thing GOONs have proven is that you do not need SPs to inflict damage on your enemy. Which is a good thing. The bad thing they have brought is that numbers matter more than tactics now. In the past you would have fairly equal gangs (most of the time) and whoever called the tactics the best would win. Now if you bring say 150 , you can get blobbed by 300+ meaning any tactics are pretty much out the window. Is that GOONs fault ? Not directly but its a serious flaw in game mechanics IMO. Still , I wish whoever ends up in JV good luck , the game moves on. LV were the "big dogs" for nearly 18 months , can you keep a hold on it that long ? Just be aware that we will do everything we can to make your life down there a ****in misery We WILL be back to take back what is ours. This Post was like a breath of fresh air in these forums. Good Luck and good fights to all involved!!!
Aliea Konovalev F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.02.28 02:22:00 - [179] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic I've never seen a thread full of so much whining in my life, and that's something. LIES!!! I know for a fact you've seen more whining in a thread than this.
Allen Deckard Gallente WTB Supplies	Posted - 2007.02.28 03:12:00 - [180] just currious but when was it that everyone realized that supperior numbers won eve? I mean 3 years ago a gate camp in .0 was supperior numbers. Attacking someone was superior numbers. You cant add up the total sp of group a then add the sp's of group b and say that is going to determine anything. A group is 99% of the time focused fire. Meaning 1 target at a time no matter the size of the goup. so 1 target gets fired on no matter his sp's he may die .0000001 sec faster if hit by t2 but hate to say 99% of the time it's near insta pop no matter what ship your in or your fittings. Kentucky where the goats roam and the rednecks run free

Jack Thurner Fusion Enterprises Ltd The Fifth Race	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:04:00 - [181] Originally by: Allen Deckard just currious but when was it that everyone realized that supperior numbers won eve? I mean 3 years ago a gate camp in .0 was supperior numbers. Attacking someone was superior numbers. You cant add up the total sp of group a then add the sp's of group b and say that is going to determine anything. A group is 99% of the time focused fire. Meaning 1 target at a time no matter the size of the goup. so 1 target gets fired on no matter his sp's he may die .0000001 sec faster if hit by t2 but hate to say 99% of the time it's near insta pop no matter what ship your in or your fittings. If said gang gets hit by a lag-spike theres no way in hell they can even lock on something before theyre dead :P
Skrypt Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.03 09:54:00 - [182] sniffs air I do believe I smell a load of ***. ---------- "I know. I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men."* ~ Malcolm Wallace (Braveheart)
Vampyr3sssssssssssssssss	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:21:00 - [183] Originally by: Skrypt sniffs air I do believe I smell a load of ****. Yo man, you gotta remember to wipe after you take a dump


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