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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2011.12.28 00:01:00 -
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Monica Sharezan wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Monica Sharezan wrote:well when i see someone attacking other people and using their killboard to try and justify their claims i decided to look to see if there was any merit or if it was as i suspected just a typical nullsec blobbing noob with no skills who thinks they are special because they KM whored on tons of kills.
i guess when people act like that they put themselves up for criticism and thats what they got ... ironic isnt it? =)
time to go BUH BYE The irony here is ******* hilarious. -Liang and i apologize for my adolescent deconstruction of Mfume's Killboard. I too get angry when i see people attacking other people .... it seems like everyone wants to 1-up the next guy here in some way. in the end we are all more alike then we would like to admit. but somehow end up communicating to each other on the negative side of the spectrum. seems like these forums breed these type of social interactions. I am sure Mfume is a great fleet member and good soldier for his corporation and apologoze to him as well. cant we all just get along?  i will energy rep you liang ... if you energy rep me back 
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Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
168
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Posted - 2011.12.28 00:36:00 -
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Monica Sharezan wrote:snip
never claimed to be elite lol
i was just saying that certain people in this thread are making outrageous claims. they are also posting from forum alts. two of the people posting that gallente and blasters are fine/balanced are sub 100 BC ranks, so if you think im actually bad this game, take their word for it instead.
edit: just realized i have more kills in gallente ship (lach) than any other this month, oh yeaa |
Trinkets friend
Obstergo
NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2011.12.28 02:01:00 -
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What i am seeing is;
"Claim!"
"Counterclaim"
"lolfag"
"no u"
"I looked at ur KB u is nub trololol"
"My KB is immaterial cause I'm a logi pilot"
"Well, so am I"
Right. STFU and GTFO the conversation if you are a logi pilot.
The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man.
Sun Tzu
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Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2011.12.28 02:47:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:Monica Sharezan wrote:snip never claimed to be elite lol i was just saying that certain people in this thread are making outrageous claims. they are also posting from forum alts. two of the people posting that gallente and blasters are fine/balanced are sub 100 BC ranks, so if you think im actually bad this game, take their word for it instead. edit: just realized i have more kills in gallente ship (lach) than any other this month, oh yeaa
The devs obviously don-Št agree with those leet persona, since -last we heard regarding that topic from them- they are still working on a load of problems the blasters still have. Because -according to them- what they want to achieve is making close combat a widespread and viable tactic for all kinds of situations.
So the apparently awesome pvp ranking didn-Št help the allegedly leet legends of pvp in any way to know what they are talking about (since their "working as intended" doesn-Št match the actual intentions of the ones actually creating the game). It just meant they are adapted well to the current situation and don-Št want it to change.
That much for the usefulness of using kb-entries or stats as qualification.
"You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
246
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Posted - 2011.12.28 03:00:00 -
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Sebastian N Cain wrote:Mfume Apocal wrote:Monica Sharezan wrote:snip never claimed to be elite lol i was just saying that certain people in this thread are making outrageous claims. they are also posting from forum alts. two of the people posting that gallente and blasters are fine/balanced are sub 100 BC ranks, so if you think im actually bad this game, take their word for it instead. edit: just realized i have more kills in gallente ship (lach) than any other this month, oh yeaa The devs obviously don-Št agree with those leet persona, since -last we heard regarding that topic from them- they are still working on a load of problems the blasters still have. Because -according to them- what they want to achieve is making close combat a widespread and viable tactic for all kinds of situations. So the apparently awesome pvp ranking didn-Št help the allegedly leet legends of pvp in any way to know what they are talking about (since their "working as intended" doesn-Št match the actual intentions of the ones actually creating the game). It just meant they are adapted well to the current situation and don-Št want it to change. That much for the usefulness of using kb-entries or stats as qualification.
Funny, last I saw they were mostly happy with the way hybrids perform and were going to work on individual ship issues.... ?
-Liang
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Julius Foederatus
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2011.12.28 04:18:00 -
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From CCP Tallest in the Test Server Feedback thread for hybrids:
As you may have noticed, I have been afk for the last week or so.
I am back at work now and will try to address the concerns that have been expressed while I was away.
As Soundwave and Affinity have explained for me in my absence, the cutoff date for changes that make it into the Crucible expansion has already passed (and had already passed when I went away).
As it turned out, I only had time to do one extra pass on the changes after they hit SISI. These changes (to the changes) were based on your feedback from this thread. There were many other suggestions here that I would love to do, but didn't have enough time to do them properly for this release. In the future, I will make sure that I have more time to make changes based on your feedback. The feedback that you was posted after the cutoff is far from worthless. I've read every single post and written down notes for future reference.
What we have now is a start. After Crucible come out, I will definitely be doing further balancing.
Here are some of the things relating to hybrid ships that we will be looking further into in the coming weeks/months:
* Further tweaking of individual ships.
* Tech II ammo needs a better look at, especially Null-Scorch-Barrage.
* Active tanking vs passive tanking. And by extension, armor tanking vs shield tanking.
* Small and Medium Webifier drones.
* Give tech I hybrid ammo variations for each range, like projectile ammo. Maybe the same for lasers.
* Something to help blaster ships get into range. There are several good suggestions on how to do this; Webifier range bonus, MWD speed bonus, change the armor rig penalty, increase base speed or even a new type of module. We might do some of them, all of them or something completely different.
p.s. I have also updated the OP with the final list of changes.
So it sounds like the guns themselves are performing as expected, which imo is correct, but they're going to keep addressing the ships themselves to address the things that we've been talking about in this thread, i.e. speed, armor rig penalties, etc. Seems to me CCP thinks that while the guns are fine by themselves, the platforms need lots of work. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
168
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Posted - 2011.12.28 05:01:00 -
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Sebastian N Cain wrote:So the apparently awesome pvp ranking didn-Št help the allegedly leet legends of pvp in any way to know what they are talking about (since their "working as intended" doesn-Št match the actual intentions of the ones actually creating the game). It just meant they are adapted well to the current situation and don-Št want it to change.
That much for the usefulness of using kb-entries or stats as qualification.
Well, shifts in the metagame take awhile to happen, so I'm pretty sure any kind of "man, these hybrids still aren't topping the KB? boost again!" is going to result in a whiplash effect down the road where we all realize, "holy ****, blasters are OP, everyone train this ****!" Ofc, the popularity is going to restrained on armor platforms, just because armor generally means committing balls-deep into a fight and when you go balls deep, anything that tips the scales against you means you die. |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
56
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Posted - 2011.12.28 06:28:00 -
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Monica Sharezan wrote:well when i see someone attacking other people and using their killboard to try and justify their claims i decided to look to see if there was any merit or if it was as i suspected just a typical nullsec blobbing noob with no skills who thinks they are special because they KM whored on tons of kills.
i guess when people act like that they put themselves up for criticism and thats what they got ... ironic isnt it? =)
time to go BUH BYE
Oddly enough I've fought that nullsec blobbing nub.
They my poor fleet stabber actually
They rolled into our staging system maybe 30 deep in an ahac gang which is kinda ballzy with 160 or so in local. It's was a decent game of tag till PL decided to **** titans all over it. |
Hrett
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.28 06:53:00 -
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Killboard epeening FTL. Ad hominum FTL. Attacking Mfune (who, for the record, I rarely agree with) and other posters combat records with THAT Monica toon is just silly. I dont always support alt posting - but in that situation, I daresay you shouldda used a noobcorp alt. ;)
And as something useful to say - someone suggested the idea of tweaking Gallent shps (base ship stat) with a quicker lock time - like to the equivilant of a sebo. It maks short range and tackle better, and doesnt reqire taking the vaunted 'fastest ship' title from the mimmies. It give Gallente the 'quickest tackle' niche at gates.
It makes rails better because they would be more effective at killing smaller support more quickly. It gives rails the 'quick damage' or 'support killer' niche in fleets.
And best of all, you dont have to make changes to any other racial weapons. All still have unique flavor to them to keep them unique.
Just something to kick around. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.28 11:11:00 -
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Hrett wrote:Killboard epeening FTL. Ad hominum FTL. Attacking Mfune (who, for the record, I rarely agree with) and other posters combat records with THAT Monica toon is just silly. I dont always support alt posting - but in that situation, I daresay you shouldda used a noobcorp alt. ;)
And as something useful to say - someone suggested the idea of tweaking Gallent shps (base ship stat) with a quicker lock time - like to the equivilant of a sebo. It maks short range and tackle better, and doesnt reqire taking the vaunted 'fastest ship' title from the mimmies. It give Gallente the 'quickest tackle' niche at gates.
It makes rails better because they would be more effective at killing smaller support more quickly. It gives rails the 'quick damage' or 'support killer' niche in fleets.
And best of all, you dont have to make changes to any other racial weapons. All still have unique flavor to them to keep them unique.
Just something to kick around.
I agree that some matar advantages should be shared between the other races, but this change wouldnt rly solve hybrid ships problem, especially as it would only applied to gall ships only and do nothing to help caldari hybrid ships.
I still find it strange that the supposed to be electronics superior race caldari has the shittiest sensors... |
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