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Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1149	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:00:00 - [1] - Quote Hello guys, I'm wondering what's currently happening with everyone killing goons? A few weeks ago there was alot of chest beating on the forums about how the goons will finally die and EVE will all be rainbows and smileys. What's currently happening to the war since I noticed that everyone just kinda stopped posting about how goons are dying and stuff. Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Scruffled South Lords 6	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:01:37 - [2] - Quote ninja "eve is dying" thread. good work OP.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 337	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:12:17 - [3] - Quote No need to post about the goons dying anymore. They died already. So snuff awoxed shadow. Snuff now collapsing. Darius came back and 'real goons' are fighting lumpy in Delve. That won't last. Mittani and his alts are trying to fight Horde, but Asher ends up just hanging out in POS waiting for the hordlings to go away. PL back doing what PL normally do. Waffles had a birthday. Much fun was had. Brave in Querious and fight club fighting each other, but always ready to kill Russians together. Everyone sort of looking for Citadels to kill because shiny. The map is now a rainbow. No blue circle. Lots of small skirmishing happening regularly. The good guys won. The bad guys lost. Lucas continues to whinge in the forum. About sums it up I think.
TigerXtrm KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1507	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:23:29 - [4] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: Hello guys, I'm wondering what's currently happening with everyone killing goons? A few weeks ago there was alot of chest beating on the forums about how the goons will finally die and EVE will all be rainbows and smileys. What's currently happening to the war since I noticed that everyone just kinda stopped posting about how goons are dying and stuff. The exact thing that everyone with half a brain cell predicted would happen, in-fighting in the MBC, the attack burning out, hype draining, wallets emptying and people declaring victory on some arbitrary basis. They said we would be driven from null entirely and not allowed to rebuild. We even allowed them to take the entirety of Deklein without any major opposition. If they had kept up the momentum we'd be out of sov by now. Instead we still own an entire region with barely a sign of the MBC trying to take it. And Fade is being retaken without any collective MBC effort to defend. The only alliances showing up to defend Horde are PL and sometimes TEST. TL;DR: The entire MBC has fallen apart in an hilariously short time span and we're basically just mopping up the mess they made in the northwest right now. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Sustrai Aditua Irubo Kovu 153	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:30:08 - [5] - Quote Such a good recap, Shae. You should be in sports broadcasting. I can see you summing up the run into any playoff.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 338	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:33:11 - [6] - Quote There you have the very different views of the war and both are correct. MBC won the short game. What's left of the Empirium playing the long game and will win.
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1149	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:38:31 - [7] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: There you have the very different views of the war and both are correct. MBC won the short game. What's left of the Empirium playing the long game and will win. So it's a turtle and hare parable? MBC being the hare going 2fast2furious while imperium lets them burn out to win in the end? Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
TigerXtrm KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1509	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:47:03 - [8] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: There you have the very different views of the war and both are correct. MBC won the short game. What's left of the Empirium playing the long game and will win. So it's a turtle and hare parable? MBC being the hare going 2fast2furious while imperium lets them burn out to win in the end? Yup. Funny thing is we've been standing basically on the sidelines this whole time telling them this would happen. Now the entire thing ground to a halt and MBC is declaring victory for reasons. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Pix Severus Empty You 4263	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:50:41 - [9] - Quote Either way, this war was good for EVE. Everyone on both sides got some content, many players resubbed, and many newbies joined the game. -ì-ä-à -£-à+¦-äGêâ-Ç
Sustrai Aditua Irubo Kovu 153	Posted - 2016.05.06 01:51:24 - [10] - Quote The Bees pride themselves on knowing this game inside and out. Their vaunted view of themselves won't allow for a bunch of upstarts give them the heave ho. Obviously, their ace-in-the-hole is longevity. The upstarts don't have the same impetus as they. Their motivation is momentary and will fade with the appearance of immediate success. All the Bees see themselves as having to do is wait it out. Regroup. Regain. If it means changing their name, then so be it. It's only a name. I'll venture to guess along with that, they're convinced the upstarts are so shallow as to believe even that is sign of having defeated the Bees. This, of course, plays into the Bees' hands. The sooner the attacks cease, the sooner they can set out to regroup and regain. Like I said when this all broke out: Only time will tell just who has fell and who's been left behind when you go your way, and I go mine.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 344	Posted - 2016.05.06 02:37:31 - [11] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: There you have the very different views of the war and both are correct. MBC won the short game. What's left of the Empirium playing the long game and will win. So it's a turtle and hare parable? MBC being the hare going 2fast2furious while imperium lets them burn out to win in the end? Well could also be like the parable that the hare is just taking a break because so far no challenge from the turtle. If the turtle catches up, then maybe the hare will take another sprint. I doubt there will be the same level of trust between alliances though. That was kind of snuffed out for now.
Caleb Seremshur Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance 769	Posted - 2016.05.06 03:32:26 - [12] - Quote CFC shifting the goal posts is one of its favourite past times. I'd personally like to see the pressure increase back to original levels. You always know a great leader by the bloodletting he makes to shed dead weight. Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
Mephiztopheleze Republic University Minmatar Republic 678	Posted - 2016.05.06 03:32:47 - [13] - Quote Goons lost a lot of their Sov while shedding members and allies like a moulting parrot. As was widely predicted: MBC infighting has pretty much ground the offensive to a crawl. Snuff's little awoxing session has left a bad taste in everyone's mouths. The Big Question currently revolves around the fate of the vaunted Goons Super Capital/Titan fleet. With many of the supers logged off at what is no-longer a friendly POS or trapped deep in what is now hostile space, it remains to be seen if Goons can successfully extract those assets or if they'll continue to be sold off at rock bottom prices (I heard tale of an officer fit Goon Avatar changing hands to PL for ISK40b). Whatever the outcome, anyone who thinks it's all over now is kidding themselves. One thing is certain, The Imperium is dead. Good riddance to bad rubbish I say. As a former member, I can say the CFC was all kinds of good fun while The Imperium was a bunch of nerds with broomsticks shoved firmly up their proverbial. The shift from CFC to The Imperium will go down in EVE History as The Mittani's greatest ever mistake. Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
Sustrai Aditua Irubo Kovu 155	Posted - 2016.05.06 05:01:25 - [14] - Quote All that being as it may, what CFC lost it can quickly regain. Money talks, and they have essentially an endless supply of that. I'd go so far as to say, a few of them would mortgage their mother's basements to sell PLEX if there should be a shortfall. The only hope the aggressors have is to pursue this with intensifying effort until they've stomped the breath out of CFC. This is an "in for the long haul" proposition. CFC has always known this. Their only hope is the leadership of their nemesis doesn't. That's why time will tell. We'll see what the aggressor leadership is about when we see the proof in the putting. (Or, "pudding" as the limies prefer.) Some of the stories I've heard of this coalition leads me to believe they aren't long-range in their motivations or their thinking. Even if they are, the way they've acquired their muscle had them hiring mercenaries, essentially, or adventurers similar to the failed Spanish Revolution. Look how long Generalissimo Fransisco Franco lasted. Unfortunately, unless there's a major shift and reorganization - redirection in this upstart aggressor camp, the Bees will prevail eventually; not without loss, mind you. And, the losses could be such that they are vulnerable to one or two of the more well-established alliances on the sidelines watching this transpire. If I were a Goonwaffle, they're the ones I'd be worried about...the clean-up crew.
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron 1760	Posted - 2016.05.06 05:33:25 - [15] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: Hello guys, I'm wondering what's currently happening with everyone killing goons? A few weeks ago there was alot of chest beating on the forums about how the goons will finally die and EVE will all be rainbows and smileys. What's currently happening to the war since I noticed that everyone just kinda stopped posting about how goons are dying and stuff. well... goons left the sov-space into NPC and low-sec. All fights now are mostly fun roams. Goons show sometimes very nice wins. Goons started to crab sov back lately. PH responds: 'we didn't want it anyway' (sounds familiar). The most of this war happens in Reddit atm The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1149	Posted - 2016.05.06 06:03:51 - [16] - Quote March rabbit wrote: Yang Aurilen wrote: Hello guys, I'm wondering what's currently happening with everyone killing goons? A few weeks ago there was alot of chest beating on the forums about how the goons will finally die and EVE will all be rainbows and smileys. What's currently happening to the war since I noticed that everyone just kinda stopped posting about how goons are dying and stuff. well... goons left the sov-space into NPC and low-sec. All fights now are mostly fun roams. Goons show sometimes very nice wins. Goons started to crab sov back lately. PH responds: 'we didn't want it anyway' (sounds familiar). The most of this war happens in Reddit atm Ah I see. But what about the other alliances in the imperium? Whatever happened to them? They just kinda disappeared from the map. Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 345	Posted - 2016.05.06 06:10:03 - [17] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: March rabbit wrote: Yang Aurilen wrote: Hello guys, I'm wondering what's currently happening with everyone killing goons? A few weeks ago there was alot of chest beating on the forums about how the goons will finally die and EVE will all be rainbows and smileys. What's currently happening to the war since I noticed that everyone just kinda stopped posting about how goons are dying and stuff. well... goons left the sov-space into NPC and low-sec. All fights now are mostly fun roams. Goons show sometimes very nice wins. Goons started to crab sov back lately. PH responds: 'we didn't want it anyway' (sounds familiar). The most of this war happens in Reddit atm Ah I see. But what about the other alliances in the imperium? Whatever happened to them? They just kinda disappeared from the map. CO2 left the Emporium early and kept their space. SMA limped off to NPC null, but some found outer ring to be too boring because they couldn't AFK Krab their way to trillions of ISK, so they went and joined CO2. FCON found new friendlies so they can PVE to their hearts content in the south. They took systems as far from the war as they could. Razor kind of scattered to the four winds. I see them everywhere. Always docked. Others went lowsec. Haven't looked, but guessing is that sentry guns have been really active because goons are terrible at lowsec and always forget some structures shoot you. Emporium kept some space and are fighting back in Fade.
Varathius Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 229	Posted - 2016.05.06 08:52:09 - [18] - Quote Odd, at fanfest this year, CCP was for the first time representing the history all alliances from the birth of eve until fanfest 2016 by using algorithmic calculations, and for some strange reason, every single alliance but the CFC/Imperium was showing big variations (corps leaving, joining, inter-alliance dramas, wars, etc), while Imperium/CFC appeared to be completely stable, showing not even minor variations. I mean, it literally showed the fall of all bigger alliances, and even small changes to smaller less known alliances, and again, CFC and now Imperium were completely stable on the data representations.... that is at least on the data results based on algorithms that were used to obtain these results. The closest to the CFC/Imperium in behavior on the data representations was PL, that is worth mentioning.
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 348	Posted - 2016.05.06 08:55:49 - [19] - Quote Varathius wrote: Odd, at fanfest this year, CCP was for the first time representing the history all alliances from the birth of eve until fanfest 2016 by using algorithmic calculations, and for some strange reason, every single alliance but the CFC/Imperium was showing big variations (corps leaving, joining, inter-alliance dramas, wars, etc), while Imperium/CFC appeared to be completely stable, showing not even minor variations. I mean, it literally showed the fall of all bigger alliances, and even small changes to smaller less known alliances, and again, CFC and now Imperium were completely stable on the data representations.... that is at least on the data results based on algorithms that were used to obtain these results. The closest to the CFC/Imperium in behavior on the data representations was PL, that is worth mentioning. I think CCP bent the knee to avoid Mittens sending a very upset email to the President or something.
Amarrchecko Hedion University Amarr Empire 108	Posted - 2016.05.06 09:09:13 - [20] - Quote Sustrai Aditua wrote: All that being as it may, what CFC lost it can quickly regain. Money talks, and they have essentially an endless supply of that. How exactly is a bunch of isk going to help the Imperium regain (let alone "quickly regain" and/or maintain) multiple regions of fozziesov, or recover the membership they lost?
Yarosara Ruil 245	Posted - 2016.05.06 09:35:37 - [21] - Quote The MBC's Grr Goons was so strong that now we have two Goon groups in EVE! Aren't schisms fun?~ And I for one welcome our new Pandemic Legion (Horde?) overlords.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 17629	Posted - 2016.05.06 11:11:14 - [22] - Quote Amarrchecko wrote: Sustrai Aditua wrote: All that being as it may, what CFC lost it can quickly regain. Money talks, and they have essentially an endless supply of that. How exactly is a bunch of isk going to help the Imperium regain (let alone "quickly regain" and/or maintain) multiple regions of fozziesov, or recover the membership they lost? It isnt. The loss of their empire isnt the biggest blow, the big blow is the loss of their back room talent. The GIA is gone, the replacement "black hand" is nowhere near as effective. They have lost their top tier FC's and whats worse, a good many of them are now working against them. They have lost their talented diplomats and wordsmiths, which is why you see their leadership managing to put their foot in their mouths so much of late and the total lack of quality propaganda from their side. They have managed to alienate almost everyone that built the empire. The imperium won't recover from this, the people it needs to do that have all been pushed out.
Memphis Baas 1498	Posted - 2016.05.06 13:10:43 - [23] - Quote GIA, the FC's, and all the "talent" are still in the game, playing. No dictator / leader has EVER stepped down of their own free will, "for the good of the people", in the history of humanity; it's just not built into our psychological profile to do so. With the war aimed at Mittani et al, I think what we've seen is everyone throwing him out, so to speak, the only way that it could be done (by leaving his organization). The "talent" will be fine; the game is interesting right now, and there are plenty of employment options between the various alliances, and Darius Johnson coming back from being a CCP dev, to provide another option. PL et al aren't "the good guys"; the goons could reform, and if they play it right, manage to lay the blame for all the "evil" behavior on Mittani, while painting themselves as the good guys struggling to rescue their brothers who are stuck in Deklein, fighting valiantly against bigger, bloodthirsty, evil entities such as PL. All they need to do is be very friendly to new players via recruiting into (new?)KarmaFleet etc. CCP wants to see a continuous war, and especially wants to see newbies introduced to it as soon as they create their first character, so KarmaFleet vs. PandemicHorde vs. BNI vs. other similar entities could be a thing. A null alliance would just need to fund a newbie group, and fund constant wars for them, to be acceptable to CCP even if they don't otherwise participate too often in major wars involving supers.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 17632	Posted - 2016.05.06 13:21:49 - [24] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: GIA, the FC's, and all the "talent" are still in the game, playing. Not in the imperium.
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 14071	Posted - 2016.05.06 13:30:43 - [25] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: Hello guys, I'm wondering what's currently happening with everyone killing goons? A few weeks ago there was alot of chest beating on the forums about how the goons will finally die and EVE will all be rainbows and smileys. What's currently happening to the war since I noticed that everyone just kinda stopped posting about how goons are dying and stuff. Balon Greyjoy voice What is docked may never die. /Balon Greyjoy voice
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 14071	Posted - 2016.05.06 13:36:31 - [26] - Quote Yarosara Ruil wrote: The MBC's Grr Goons was so strong that now we have two Goon groups in EVE! Aren't schisms fun?~ Yes they actually are. The Goons schism reminds me of one from my other favorite Sci-fi IP, Battletech. I know there are other BT fans here that will understand what I'm about to say. Mittens Goons are old Comstar, the new goons are the Word of Blake lol.
Seven Koskanaiken FinFleet Northern Coalition. 1750	Posted - 2016.05.06 15:40:15 - [27] - Quote "Not winning fast enough"
Kaska Iskalar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2016.05.06 15:48:18 - [28] - Quote Mephiztopheleze wrote: As a former member, I can say the CFC was all kinds of good fun while The Imperium was a bunch of nerds with broomsticks shoved firmly up their proverbial. The shift from CFC to The Imperium will go down in EVE History as The Mittani's greatest ever mistake. Oh shut up. CFC has been new BoB for years. Nothing changed but the name.
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 17634	Posted - 2016.05.06 16:16:22 - [29] - Quote Kaska Iskalar wrote: Mephiztopheleze wrote: As a former member, I can say the CFC was all kinds of good fun while The Imperium was a bunch of nerds with broomsticks shoved firmly up their proverbial. The shift from CFC to The Imperium will go down in EVE History as The Mittani's greatest ever mistake. Oh shut up. CFC has been new BoB for years. Nothing changed but the name. Nah he's right. CFC we all knew and loved ended when they "rebranded" to the Imperium.
Kaska Iskalar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 67	Posted - 2016.05.06 17:46:02 - [30] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Kaska Iskalar wrote: Mephiztopheleze wrote: As a former member, I can say the CFC was all kinds of good fun while The Imperium was a bunch of nerds with broomsticks shoved firmly up their proverbial. The shift from CFC to The Imperium will go down in EVE History as The Mittani's greatest ever mistake. Oh shut up. CFC has been new BoB for years. Nothing changed but the name. Nah he's right. CFC we all knew and loved ended when they "rebranded" to the Imperium. Speak for yourself. I haven't liked them since they became BoB.
Cien Banchiere Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution 56	Posted - 2016.05.06 19:10:50 - [31] - Quote Momentum sorta died down when they crushed and slaughtered everything in 2 months time or so. In that time The Imperium shed most of its talent, lost its land, lost its carebears, and is now left with dillusional leadership. Right now it looks like clean up time. MBC fully expected to fight each other eventually. Maybe now even more fun can be brought in by others.
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 885	Posted - 2016.05.06 20:17:15 - [32] - Quote The MBC right now. "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 1060	Posted - 2016.05.06 21:48:37 - [33] - Quote The GSF right now. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. Je suis Paris Je suis Köln Je suis Brüssel Je suis [?]
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 885	Posted - 2016.05.06 22:11:35 - [34] - Quote Nerath Naaris wrote: The GSF right now. So DEAD and gone also not holding any territory Mission Accomplished, or If I upvote on reddit and like the posts on GD that call Goons dead, hard enough the mean ebil Goonies will go away Mission Accomplished? Because that looks like the latter than the former. So Mission Accomplished. Can you share with the rest of us, cause you be tripping hard. "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 14072	Posted - 2016.05.06 22:58:47 - [35] - Quote The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol.
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 800	Posted - 2016.05.06 23:43:33 - [36] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol. and so the wheel turns... Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1149	Posted - 2016.05.07 00:04:56 - [37] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Yarosara Ruil wrote: The MBC's Grr Goons was so strong that now we have two Goon groups in EVE! Aren't schisms fun?~ Yes they actually are. The Goons schism reminds me of one from my other favorite Sci-fi IP, Battletech. I know there are other BT fans here that will understand what I'm about to say. Mittens Goons are old Comstar, the new goons are the Word of Blake lol. Does that mean the MBC are clanners? That would explain why they like to shoot each other. Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 886	Posted - 2016.05.07 00:57:20 - [38] - Quote John E Normus wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol. and so the wheel turns... So who gets to be called BoB this time? "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
Aiwha Infinite Point Violence of Action. 1173	Posted - 2016.05.07 01:18:43 - [39] - Quote Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation. GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now. War is over. Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Kieron VonDeux 193	Posted - 2016.05.07 01:33:30 - [40] - Quote Falin Whalen wrote: John E Normus wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol. and so the wheel turns... So who gets to be called BoB this time? I don't think the ass-hat-ness has worn off from the goons yet, so they will probably be the default tards of Eve until their Organization decides to move on from Eve Online.
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 887	Posted - 2016.05.07 03:47:00 - [41] - Quote Aiwha wrote: Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation. GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now. War is over. AW c'mon, You forgot the best part. Where you all reset each other, and live happily ever after in a magic rainbow land of PvP, and GF's. If you are going to tell fairy stories, at least make them happy ones. "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
Chewytowel Haklar Project RESET 147	Posted - 2016.05.07 03:55:49 - [42] - Quote I have a feeling that Sov is in transition. Systems now can change hands far easier than before, and after seeing just what is possible now I feel and believe that this is the beginning of a much larger war. I don't know how it will play out, but the whole World War Bee thing was very likely just the start of something that is going to be very massive and very bloody this summer. No one is Null is safe any longer.... and the blood gods demand blood!
Aiwha Infinite Point Violence of Action. 1173	Posted - 2016.05.07 04:20:17 - [43] - Quote Falin Whalen wrote: Aiwha wrote: Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation. GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now. War is over. AW c'mon, You forgot the best part. Where you all reset each other, and live happily ever after in a magic rainbow land of PvP, and GF's. If you are going to tell fairy stories, at least make them happy ones. We already did. VoA/CN and The Culture are already storming in our Fountain Teapot. You guys got stomped. Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 887	Posted - 2016.05.07 15:32:22 - [44] - Quote Aiwha wrote: Falin Whalen wrote: Aiwha wrote: Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation. GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now. War is over. AW c'mon, You forgot the best part. Where you all reset each other, and live happily ever after in a magic rainbow land of PvP, and GF's. If you are going to tell fairy stories, at least make them happy ones. We already did. VoA/CN and The Culture are already storming in our Fountain Teapot. You guys got stomped. So you all are breaking up, and going your separate ways, after only a month. We lost territory, we knew that was going to happen, given the amount of sycophantic hangers on you guys collected. I wonder who predicted that you guys would take territory, claim victory and split up after about a month? Hell it hadn't been a month before your 'allies' started AWOXing each others supers. You just don't understand, Goons didn't get stomped, we were just waiting for you to declare: Mission Accomplished, get bored, and flounce off all proud of yourselves that you 'defeated the ebil Goonies'. Meanwhile the all important slope that truly declares Goonswarm dead isn't there, in fact you guys are crowing about the ratting alts drooping corp(which happens to be less than 5% BTW) and calling it a failure cascade. Maybe you don't understand what a failure cascade really is. I'll give you an example http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/En_Garde/stats/2012-11-01:2013-02-13 is a failure cascade, this is not a failure cascade http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/stats/2016-03-06:2016-08-08 Notice the difference? So please continue to write your fan fiction about how Goonies got stomped, lost all their territory, and will never be allowed to form up and hold space ever again. Oh and we don't undock "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders 4393	Posted - 2016.05.07 16:30:28 - [45] - Quote MBC: we won because the coalition known as cfc/imperium is all but dead. Goons: we didn't lose, because we'll surely retake some sov if the MBC stops fighting us. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Ka Plaa Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 178	Posted - 2016.05.07 18:44:14 - [46] - Quote "Orkses are never defeated in battle. If we win, we win, an' if we die, we die, so it don't count as defeat 'cos it don't matter to uz. If we run away we don't die neither, so we can always come back for annuver go, see?" "The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Chewytowel Haklar Project RESET 148	Posted - 2016.05.07 18:57:22 - [47] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: MBC: we won because the coalition known as cfc/imperium is all but dead. Goons: we didn't lose, because we'll surely retake some sov if the MBC stops fighting us. I do not think you understand the Goons very well. You could take all their space and they will just keep on buzzing. Everyone in the game knows their history and what they are capable of, so you know they aren't delusional. I would also add that if the coffers of IWI and entire forces of MBC has not broken their spirits and determination, then nothing will! Not to even mention how they already failed to keep taking their space while goons easily retake it daily. I suppose that is because people are too busy leeching off IWI and taking all they can get from them while the candy is still being passed out. Many seem to expect this war to be swift, and for Goons to fall apart. They further add to this idea by pointing out all those leaving Goonswarm, as well as DJ returning proclaiming to usher in the new era of true goons. The enemy seems to see this as weakness but lacks the depth to truly grasp the complexities of what is really going on. What they fail to understand is that goons are everywhere, they aren't all just in GSF. There is a much bigger meta game going on here that just seems to go over the heads of the clearly simple minded folk; those who prop up their MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banners and look like goofs in the process. Goons aren't going anywhere, they are going everywhere.
Aiwha Infinite Point Violence of Action. 1173	Posted - 2016.05.07 21:58:13 - [48] - Quote Falin Whalen wrote: Aiwha wrote: Falin Whalen wrote: Aiwha wrote: Well "The Imperium" is gone, SMA is dying quietly in Cloud Ring, "Refubee Coalition" of Fcon and a few others have moved to tenerferis to try and get out of their situation. GSF is trying to widot the rest of their "allies", who are all is still camped in Saranen, bleeding membership and directors. Their entire super fleet is logged off inside of enemy POSes, so PL are probably going to live up there for awhile picking those off. Everybody else is pretty much packing it up and going home. Except TEST and Darkness who are apparently living up there now. War is over. AW c'mon, You forgot the best part. Where you all reset each other, and live happily ever after in a magic rainbow land of PvP, and GF's. If you are going to tell fairy stories, at least make them happy ones. We already did. VoA/CN and The Culture are already storming in our Fountain Teapot. You guys got stomped. So you all are breaking up, and going your separate ways, after only a month. We lost territory, we knew that was going to happen, given the amount of sycophantic hangers on you guys collected. I wonder who predicted that you guys would take territory, claim victory and split up after about a month? Hell it hadn't been a month before your 'allies' started AWOXing each others supers. You just don't understand, Goons didn't get stomped, we were just waiting for you to declare: Mission Accomplished, get bored, and flounce off all proud of yourselves that you 'defeated the ebil Goonies'. Meanwhile the all important slope that truly declares Goonswarm dead isn't there, in fact you guys are crowing about the ratting alts drooping corp(which happens to be less than 5% BTW) and calling it a failure cascade. Maybe you don't understand what a failure cascade really is. I'll give you an example http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/En_Garde/stats/2012-11-01:2013-02-13 is a failure cascade, this is not a failure cascade http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/stats/2016-03-06:2016-08-08 Notice the difference? So please continue to write your fan fiction about how Goonies got stomped, lost all their territory, and will never be allowed to form up and hold space ever again. Oh and we don't undock Keep telling yourself that while sitting on the Saranen undock. Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Moac Tor Cyber Core Stain Confederation 508	Posted - 2016.05.07 22:11:43 - [49] - Quote The MBC needed to keep the pressure on goons for much longer to have any lasting effect. They had a good initial push, but an initial push is all it has been. Modulated ECM Effects An Alternative to Skill Trading
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders 4394	Posted - 2016.05.07 22:55:56 - [50] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar wrote: Goons aren't going anywhere, ~~they are going everywhere~~ because they're docked in Saranen. FTFY Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 889	Posted - 2016.05.07 23:36:57 - [51] - Quote Aiwha wrote: Keep telling yourself that while sitting on the Saranen undock. You're right, we never leave Saranen undock. "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
Digits Kho Infinity Engine Sleeping Dragons 80	Posted - 2016.05.07 23:46:59 - [52] - Quote IMO the recent beatings made GSF lose some excess fat (sma and so ), they got a firm conclusion on who can and cant be relied on and what their alliance is actualy capable of and what not. Assuming they / their leadership learn from all these events then maybe it was infact just what they needed for sometime now . As for the mbc, it aint built to last anyways and when it dissolves, any of its former members will crack just from 16k people GSF being in a constellation near them, let alone trying to stop them from rebuilding lol
Khanh'rhh GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3508	Posted - 2016.05.07 23:50:33 - [53] - Quote GSF is the most active alliance on zKillboard. MBC says we don't undock GSF has a long history of coming back from almost nothing and doing so stronger MBC says 'no no this time they are done' GSF supers are apparently 'hell camped forever' MBC largely ignores super fleets trapped in this way invariably break out If you wish really hard I guess maybe it'll come true. Or you can keep staring at the Saranen undock and imagine all the Imperium is in there, and gains in the north aren't happening at the same time. "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 712	Posted - 2016.05.08 00:26:13 - [54] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: GSF is the most active alliance on zKillboard. MBC says we don't undock GSF has a long history of coming back from almost nothing and doing so stronger MBC says 'no no this time they are done' GSF supers are apparently 'hell camped forever' MBC largely ignores super fleets trapped in this way invariably break out If you wish really hard I guess maybe it'll come true. Or you can keep staring at the Saranen undock and imagine all the Imperium is in there, and gains in the north aren't happening at the same time. Goons may have survived but the Imperium didn't, and honestly thats good enough for me. Mega coalitions were always cancerous to EVE and now the last one is dead and gone. Whether goons can accept that fact is entirely up to them. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 4486	Posted - 2016.05.08 00:30:29 - [55] - Quote The Imperium and The Romeingrad fell to the Huns, Magyars, Goths, Visigoths, Punks and Vandals. There's still a True Goon sector, and some of them are running hit-and-run (sword) fleets. Who knows how deep their pockets are? Or if there's any HAL 9000 controlling them? Or some HAL 3000s, 1500s, and HAL 486s feeding them? Or are they just volunteers living off the land and KB juice? Anyway, EVE is not dead, and neither is grr goons But, on the other hand, it is the novice usually who gets the famous ace by doing at some moment the unexpected thing. -Eddie Rickenbacker
Chewytowel Haklar Project RESET 148	Posted - 2016.05.08 01:11:01 - [56] - Quote Khergit Deserters wrote: The Imperium and The Romeingrad fell to the Huns, Magyars, Goths, Visigoths, Punks and Vandals. There's still a True Goon sector, and some of them are running hit-and-run (sword) fleets. Who knows how deep their pockets are? Or if there's any HAL 9000 controlling them? Or some HAL 3000s, 1500s, and HAL 486s feeding them? Or are they just volunteers living off the land and KB juice? Anyway, EVE is not dead, and neither is grr goons For sure, you don't even have to be a die hard EVE player to know that this isn't the end but verily I say this is just the beginning. Nothing is quite as it seems O.O
Aiwha Infinite Point Violence of Action. 1173	Posted - 2016.05.08 02:21:32 - [57] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: GSF is the most active alliance on zKillboard. MBC says we don't undock GSF has a long history of coming back from almost nothing and doing so stronger MBC says 'no no this time they are done' GSF supers are apparently 'hell camped forever' MBC largely ignores super fleets trapped in this way invariably break out If you wish really hard I guess maybe it'll come true. Or you can keep staring at the Saranen undock and imagine all the Imperium is in there, and gains in the north aren't happening at the same time. Like I said, enjoy saranen. Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Khanh'rhh GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3510	Posted - 2016.05.08 14:29:38 - [58] - Quote Aiwha wrote: Like I said, enjoy saranen. I don't find it much on this list http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/kills Can you help? "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,
Evasive Shadow Assassin Evocationz Adhera YouTube Corporation 3276	Posted - 2016.05.08 14:53:12 - [59] - Quote Same ** with Bob tbh eve rose up threw bad guys down bad guys lol bads guys won bads guys came back n lol'ed on forums rest of eve goes silent on forums rinse and repeat incoming blue ball for ratting and POS access stagnant as ** n people wonder why i stay in high sec.... 200+ Videos On Eve Online, Missions, Anomalys, PvP, Guides
baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Legion 17645	Posted - 2016.05.09 10:13:40 - [60] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar wrote: I do not think you understand the Goons very well. You could take all their space and they will just keep on buzzing. Thats the goons I was part of, what fell apart when we hit it was the imperium. The goons of old is gone, all the people that made it a thing have either stopped playing or left the organisation.
RabbitX Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1	Posted - 2016.05.09 13:16:11 - [61] - Quote Ding Dong the Witch is dead
Hemmo Paskiainen 518	Posted - 2016.05.09 21:59:31 - [62] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: Either way, this war was good for EVE. Everyone on both sides got some content, many players resubbed, and many newbies joined the game. Yeah, and now just realized what it has costed ccp for ALL THOSE YEARS LONG, in missed subscription income..... Hahahaha Toad ya soooooooooo "Relativity equals time plus momentum: if it can be erased by a single click on a button, would it be worth spending your time?"
Hemmo Paskiainen 518	Posted - 2016.05.09 22:23:22 - [63] - Quote Falin Whalen wrote: John E Normus wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: The goons can say what they like, but every guristas maze escalation I do in space the spent years building up is all the victory I need lol. and so the wheel turns... So who gets to be called BoB this time? Just follow the same characters. Cross ref which persons of the old BoB corps joined goons just after bob mc2, are in cfc positions and go to their next 'thing'. Some has The Collective, EVO, or were in T20's corp. By checking the forum posting history, with the dev player rules in mind, im sure you can figur it outby what they say, or not say. "Relativity equals time plus momentum: if it can be erased by a single click on a button, would it be worth spending your time?"
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 6036	Posted - 2016.05.09 23:13:51 - [64] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Yang Aurilen wrote: Hello guys, I'm wondering what's currently happening with everyone killing goons? A few weeks ago there was alot of chest beating on the forums about how the goons will finally die and EVE will all be rainbows and smileys. What's currently happening to the war since I noticed that everyone just kinda stopped posting about how goons are dying and stuff. Balon Greyjoy voice What is docked may never die. /Balon Greyjoy voice Boredom also kills.
Tiddle Jr Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 852	Posted - 2016.05.10 00:04:32 - [65] - Quote baltec1 wrote: It isnt. The loss of their empire isnt the biggest blow, the big blow is the loss of their back room talent. The GIA is gone, the replacement "black hand" is nowhere near as effective. They have lost their top tier FC's and whats worse, a good many of them are now working against them. They have lost their talented diplomats and wordsmiths, which is why you see their leadership managing to put their foot in their mouths so much of late and the total lack of quality propaganda from their side. They have managed to alienate almost everyone that built the empire. The imperium won't recover from this, the people it needs to do that have all been pushed out. this is the common mistake when the majority thinking if one person was taking specific position for quite sometimes and was performing well that he is the only one who could handle that. Talented persons are still there and there is their time has come to step up since the old guard who believed that GSF they've built are the only one have right for existence. i wonder how they feel now between the line of their ex-enemies and current 'friends". Same story about CFC leadership. If its members ever felt that the Mittani and Co. were doing wrong things they should've move away or made an effort to replace those managers but everyone were happy. No matter we've been kicked from GSF (i was in raging ducks) and this story was full of drama i still do love the Environment that GSF has it is unique and unforgettable. baltec1 wrote: CFC we all knew and loved ended when they "rebranded" to the Imperium. strange to hear since you personally didn't left the next day Imperium was born, and it happened a little bit later
Arthur Aihaken CODE.d 5063	Posted - 2016.05.10 00:12:31 - [66] - Quote Amarrchecko wrote: How exactly is a bunch of isk going to help the Imperium regain (let alone "quickly regain" and/or maintain) multiple regions of fozziesov, or recover the membership they lost? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RgN9ijwE4 I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Sustrai Aditua Irubo Kovu 187	Posted - 2016.05.10 02:50:57 - [67] - Quote Amarrchecko wrote: Sustrai Aditua wrote: All that being as it may, what CFC lost it can quickly regain. Money talks, and they have essentially an endless supply of that. How exactly is a bunch of isk going to help the Imperium regain (let alone "quickly regain" and/or maintain) multiple regions of fozziesov, or recover the membership they lost? Quickly as in, when the time comes it won't be much of a problem. NOT quickly as in the immediate timeframe. They can afford to wait. They can afford to rebuild. If and when the "opposition" loses interest, wanders off to do other things, or downloads another game, THEN...quickly. I'm surprised you had to ask. By the way, you haven't noticed the internet is inundated with "players" who custom fit their "play style"? If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Tiddle Jr Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 853	Posted - 2016.05.10 22:30:28 - [68] - Quote btw John Snow... yeah he is alive just like goons...
Aiwha Infinite Point Violence of Action. 1175	Posted - 2016.05.11 03:25:30 - [69] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: Aiwha wrote: Like I said, enjoy saranen. I don't find it much on this list http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/kills Can you help? Check out the SMA page. Or even your own "sov" page. Compare that with C02 and even FCon. Then realize your place in the universe when even FCon is doing better than you at holding sov. Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Kjeri Ko The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.05.11 07:57:01 - [70] - Quote basically goons didn't lose the war 'cause they decided not to play the game itself. some people need to take the game as what it is...a game. Even if i guess people who decide to quit their RL job to play eve may have some problems to catch this concept.
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron 1760	Posted - 2016.05.11 08:46:53 - [71] - Quote Aiwha wrote: Khanh'rhh wrote: Aiwha wrote: Like I said, enjoy saranen. I don't find it much on this list http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federation/kills Can you help? Check out the SMA page. Or even your own "sov" page. Compare that with C02 and even FCon. Then realize your place in the universe when even FCon is doing better than you at holding sov. he talks about kills (you know: PVP), you talk about farms. That's the difference The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

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