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Zrakor
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Posted - 2007.02.22 17:10:00 -
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Could the more experienced mission runners on this forum please write down a list of 5 of the most difficult level 4 missions they have had to face. It would be much appreciated, thanks.
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Elsinaril
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.02.22 17:22:00 -
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Blockade (vs DED) Worlds Collide (vs Sansha + Gallente) Mordus Headhunters Vengeance (vs Mordus) Angel Extravaganza (bonus level)
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Traak
CompleXion Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.22 17:23:00 -
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1. Enemies abound 1 of 5: the warp scramblers and the DPS make it really tough. The risk coupled with the faction hit and the lack of bounties make me reject this every time, so I've never gone further in the storyline
2. Worlds Collide: Hard if you don't know what you're doing.
3. Blockade: Again, hard if you don't know what you're doing or if you trip the wrong ship. It's impossible to tell which is the trigger sometimes.
4. Angel Extravaganza: bonus room is the REAL hard part. Hardest of all rooms in any mission IMO.
5. Pirate Invasion: whole room aggro in nasty
Overall, any mission can be hard if you don't know what you're doing. Drones tripping whole room aggro make them harder. Gangs tripping whole room aggro make them harder. So, some of the ones I've listed *can* be "easy", but these are what I think are the "hardest". __________
Traak
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Tranvisor
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Posted - 2007.02.22 17:24:00 -
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So this is the thread where we decide which missions get taken away from us. Well that's great, I love getting nerfed.
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Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.02.22 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tranvisor So this is the thread where we decide which missions get taken away from us. Well that's great, I love getting nerfed.
Oh yes, CCP is playin their game all right, haha.
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Elsinaril
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.02.22 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dammar
Originally by: Tranvisor So this is the thread where we decide which missions get taken away from us. Well that's great, I love getting nerfed.
Oh yes, CCP is playin their game all right, haha.
Heads up, most of the missions I have listed are not available in the empire space anyway, so they can be hardly taken away from you
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.22 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tranvisor So this is the thread where we decide which missions get taken away from us. Well that's great, I love getting nerfed.
True I guess, some missions are hard, but hard is fun as long as it's doable, asking us which cashcow missions we want removed from high sec is a tad odd...
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Ravenal
The Fated
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Posted - 2007.02.22 17:56:00 -
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my guess goes with oveurs new dev blog about lvl5 agents - meaning the hardest level4 missions will become the easiest level 5 missions. . |
Exlegion
New Light Schism.
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Posted - 2007.02.22 18:01:00 -
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And so the nerfing of level 4's begin... Again.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.02.22 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Shadarle on 22/02/2007 18:29:13 I suggest everyone read the Dev blog before responding here, I should have too.
Yes, the hardest level 4's are being made level 5. Why? Because level 4's are being changed to be less difficult and level 5's are the new challenging missions for players.
So this nerfs level 4's yet.... but we will have level 5's to do if we want a challenge. So that works well for me.
World's Collide is definitely a more challenging level 4 if done incorrectly, but extremely easy if done correctly.
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Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained |
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.22 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Mastin Dragonfly on 22/02/2007 18:16:21 Sad thing is that the hard missions generally are hard because of either lag or drones causing mass agro. So if they want to make lvl 5s hard just put in a ton of objects and at least 50 ships per pocket that all agro and blow away your shield and armor before you're PC has loaded the area in.
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Exlegion
New Light Schism.
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Posted - 2007.02.22 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Exlegion on 22/02/2007 18:46:07
Originally by: Shadarle Edited by: Shadarle on 22/02/2007 18:29:13 I suggest everyone read the Dev blog before responding here, I should have too.
Yes, the hardest level 4's are being made level 5. Why? Because level 4's are being changed to be less difficult and level 5's are the new challenging missions for players.
So this nerfs level 4's yet.... but we will have level 5's to do if we want a challenge. So that works well for me.
World's Collide is definitely a more challenging level 4 if done incorrectly, but extremely easy if done correctly.
Level 4's will now be more like level 3's in diffculty. And level 5+'s will only be available in low/no sec. So yes, level 4 missions in high sec are getting the boot. It seems battleships will no longer be required in high sec.
Read here:
Oveur's Blog# 54
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Majin82
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2007.02.22 18:51:00 -
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Leave the level 4's alone! The hard ones are the only fun ones.
Just fill level 5's with Dreads ------------------------------------- The difference between a Pirate and an Anti-Pirate is that an Anti-Pirate fights ships fitted with guns!
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Dolly Parton
Amarr 5punkorp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.22 18:56:00 -
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i will start attacking every dev i see if they screw with my LP by nerfing my lvl 4 agents. i have 350k LP, 3x different agents, and you will owe me 3 amarr navy BS if you do and i will collect.
now to your request
enemies abound pirate slaughter (gurista) all the others are not hard to me so there you go thats my list
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WrathchildeVOTF
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Posted - 2007.02.22 18:59:00 -
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...And there was much rejoicing.
Yay.
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Saldun Zexu
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Posted - 2007.02.22 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Saldun Zexu on 22/02/2007 19:22:43 I can't say which missions are hardest or easiest. all depends on which ship you on. all sansha's/blood raider's missions are easy when I fly on apoc
all angel's/gurista's missions are easy when I fly on raven
anyway, aggro whole room always "hard"
EDIT: please don't nerf Enemies Abound. I can do this mission with closed eye.
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Pakalolo
Tha Shiznit
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Posted - 2007.02.22 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Pakalolo on 22/02/2007 19:45:37 The only room that is even remotely difficult in a solo t2 fitted raven is lvl4 AE bonus. I run Gallente (Quafe) and Minmatar (Republic Fleet).
Many of the lower lvl missions are harder because you are limited by ship class. Most fun ever was doing lvl3s in a cruise rifter with mwd (to reload).
The top 5 will become lvl5 agent missions?
edit: add url
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Sivlar Sylvannathas
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2007.02.22 19:51:00 -
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As the last poster said, a lot seems to depend on what ship you fly. I fly a Domi so the drones causing entire stages to mass aggro I hope will be addressed one day. Some friends that fly Ravens seem to have less trouble on these missions.
Hard Missions (for me at least)
Worlds Collide (Serpentis/Guristas) - Mass Stage Aggros
Pirates Slaughter (Angel Cartel) - Mass Stage Aggros
Smuggler Interception (Angel Cartel) - I find the new version of this mission with the REV patch to be a royal pain. Entire stage aggros when you attack and doesn't seem to be broken up into groups of rats. Just one big blob of angel ships.
Angel Extravaganza - The bonus rooms is especially crazy. |
Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.22 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pakalolo Edited by: Pakalolo on 22/02/2007 19:45:37 The only room that is even remotely difficult in a solo t2 fitted raven is lvl4 AE bonus. I run Gallente (Quafe) and Minmatar (Republic Fleet).
Many of the lower lvl missions are harder because you are limited by ship class. Most fun ever was doing lvl3s in a cruise rifter with mwd (to reload).
The top 5 will become lvl5 agent missions?
edit: add url
Not everybody wants to fly that ugly piece of scrapmetal.
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Ghan Tylous
Caldari The Graduates Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.02.22 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Elsinaril Blockade (vs DED) Worlds Collide (vs Sansha + Gallente) Mordus Headhunters Vengeance (vs Mordus) Angel Extravaganza (bonus level)
Vengance vs Guristas is not hard IMO. --- It have always fallen to a few to sacrifice for the good of many |
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.02.22 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 22/02/2007 20:55:58 If those missions are gunna become lvl5s, I would say:
Angel Extravaganza Pirate Invasion Pirate Slaughter Stop the Thief Silence the Informant
(Yes those are my top 5 most declined missions so I would not miss them one bit)
--------- There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Kestrel
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.22 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 22/02/2007 20:55:58 If those missions are gunna become lvl5s, I would say:
Angel Extravaganza Pirate Invasion Pirate Slaughter Stop the Thief Silence the Informant
(Yes those are my top 5 most declined missions so I would not miss them one bit)
And 3 of those are among my favorites...
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Macmuelli
Gallente Gallente Mercantile Exchange Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.02.22 21:22:00 -
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worlds collide angel extravaganza (bonus level) blockade shipyard theft (storyline lev 4 ) angel strike (storyline lev 4)
If u know which enemies u had to attack first, they will go fast. At least 1 tank + 1 dmg dealer team makes them easy
I prefer damnation pilot + hyperion in a team.
Damnation (ab + orbiting enemie ) as full tank damage based from npc.(optimal eos pilot) Hyperion as dmg dealer + repair support the damnation (drones).
This team make it possible to insta aggro the most missions.
Whats a human without dreams?.....
DEATH
"Ein jeder ernte Ruhm auf seine Weise.....Gunnar von Hlidarendi "
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Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.02.22 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Elsinaril
Originally by: Dammar
Originally by: Tranvisor So this is the thread where we decide which missions get taken away from us. Well that's great, I love getting nerfed.
Oh yes, CCP is playin their game all right, haha.
Heads up, most of the missions I have listed are not available in the empire space anyway, so they can be hardly taken away from you
haha I guess when I did all those missions I was just imagining it then? That would be in a 0.9 btw.
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Siri Blue
Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:30:00 -
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The Mordus Headhunters Vengeance Silence the Informant Worlds Collide (if you try killing em all)
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FalconHawk
Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:39:00 -
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enemies abound 5/5 (cause i¦m 99% amarr ) pirate slaughter/ invasion vs. guris (only with mass aggro, jamming is simply annoying) worlds collide sansha/angel (only with mass aggro at last stage and you are totaly clueless) angel ex. cause ... it¦s angel ex
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Kharo Khann
Cosmology
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:43:00 -
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- enemies abound ( more because of faction drops) - worlds collide ( the gurista part of it)
the rest i wouldnt adress as: "most difficult missions you know"
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Hektor Ramirez on 22/02/2007 23:19:42 As Gallente: Any mission with full drone aggro (Serpvaganza, Worlds Collide), Silence the Informant, Pirate Invasion and I guess In the Midst of Deadspace (It's been a while).
Depends entirely on the ship and weapons I suppose. I'll do Mordus Headhunters in a Domi no problem but I'd never bother in an Apoc. I also wouldn't do harder Sansha missions in a Raven probably. -
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Kharo Khann
Cosmology
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:45:00 -
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forgot:
- Angel extra stage - Bloccade (ded)
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W1ck3d 8uZz
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.22 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Majin82 Just fill level 5's with Dreads
only dreads? that would be easy if those dreads are not caldari ones
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