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goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.22 08:39:00 - [91] Originally by: Night Tripper Originally by: goodby4u Tbh the way its suppose to be... link or reference please The caldari carrier should have the fighter damage bonus according to the backstory,sorry dont know which one but im sure somebody knows...I know the story itself though. The caldari produced the fighters to help take back some random planet and it worked so well that gellente attempted to match and surpass the caldari with fighters,they failed and produced smaller drones(ie heavy drones and lower)whereas caldari decided they didnt want to chase gellente with drones so they worked on missiles. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
Jurushy SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.22 09:34:00 - [92] i bump this Theard ando give it my fully support may TUX will finally give a statment if we spam the forum whit "BOOST MINMATAR CARRIER" theards ------ REVENGE IS A DISH BEST SERVED COLD Old Klingon prover
Pesadel0 Vagabundos THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:23:00 - [93] Originally by: goodby4u Originally by: Night Tripper Originally by: goodby4u Tbh the way its suppose to be... link or reference please The caldari carrier should have the fighter damage bonus according to the backstory,sorry dont know which one but im sure somebody knows...I know the story itself though. The caldari produced the fighters to help take back some random planet and it worked so well that gellente attempted to match and surpass the caldari with fighters,they failed and produced smaller drones(ie heavy drones and lower)whereas caldari decided they didnt want to chase gellente with drones so they worked on missiles. And were did you read that the nig is "rigth" in RP terms? If so i want to have a Kamikaze bonus on figthers:"5% to kamikaze damage after impact" ,should do wonders verssus those crazy blobs . I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
Victor Ivanov Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.03.22 14:30:00 - [94] Quick post regarding the whole backstory: I've seen this argument made a million times: Caldari invented fighters, indeed. Gallente tried to backwards engineer them, and failed, but got some interesting technology from the nonetheless and thus drones were created. This happened a 1000 years ago or something. Since then the gallenteans have been focusing highly on their drones, and they became more and more advanced. Once upon a time, the Gallanteans had become such masters at drone technology that building fighters and improving on their original design was child's play. ..Ever heard of the Student surpassing the Master? Happens from time to time, especially if one is dedicated and the other doesn't really care, preffering to focus on missiles instead. Now to say something on the nidhoggur again: Read my elaboration on the bottom of the third page! Boost the nidhoggur!
Pesadel0 Vagabundos THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:12:00 - [95] All carriers should be boosted ,the nig just needs more boosting :) I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
VanNostrum	Posted - 2007.03.22 16:18:00 - [96] oh yah, and Phoenix too
Jack Target	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:20:00 - [97] /BUMP I fly minmatar, and Nidhoggur needs some love.
VanNostrum	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:29:00 - [98] ^ omg I just found my long lost brother ^
SasRipper DIE WITH HONOUR Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:33:00 - [99] fix it! or I shall post working nanosetups ! & your unskiled changes will have been for nothing! muahhhahh snip Sas has spoken this tread shall be locked.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:39:00 - [100] I predict that the following bonuses will be put on the Minmatar Carriers: 7.5% Bonus to the strength of target painters/level of Minmatar carrier. 10% bonus to the optimal range of target painters/level of Minmatar carrier. /me now expects to be banned from SHC --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Victor Ivanov Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:46:00 - [101] Bwahaha. I say they give us a sensor booster boost. Fear us, minnie pilots. :P
Kar Anshral	Posted - 2007.03.22 20:19:00 - [102] Originally by: Chode Rizoum if this really is the way they want the nidhoggur... they should double the bonus... since the ROF only improves like 1 sec on lvl 5 aprox lvl 5 minmatar carrier reduces the time by 25%, that's 5 * 0.75 = 3.75 or 1.25s. doesn't seem like much but you have to look at the hp/s rather then the duration itself. If duration is reduced by 25% then the hp/s goes up by 33%(25% at lvl 4). Or it goes from 300 hp/s base to a maximum of 400 hp/s. The issue with the bonus imo is that it also affects the cap use which is increased by the same amount as the hp/s. Changing the bonus to a boost amount bonus of 7.5% instead would keep the cap/s the same but increase the hp/s by approx. the same. I'd vote for a cap reduction bonus(-7.5% cap)though, increased hp/s is nice but allowing the nidhoggur to run the remote shield/armor repairers significantly longer then any other carrier would be a very nice thing(nicer then having better boost then other carriers).
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.22 22:18:00 - [103] Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: goodby4u Originally by: Night Tripper Originally by: goodby4u Tbh the way its suppose to be... link or reference please The caldari carrier should have the fighter damage bonus according to the backstory,sorry dont know which one but im sure somebody knows...I know the story itself though. The caldari produced the fighters to help take back some random planet and it worked so well that gellente attempted to match and surpass the caldari with fighters,they failed and produced smaller drones(ie heavy drones and lower)whereas caldari decided they didnt want to chase gellente with drones so they worked on missiles. And were did you read that the nig is "rigth" in RP terms? If so i want to have a Kamikaze bonus on figthers:"5% to kamikaze damage after impact" ,should do wonders verssus those crazy blobs . The nid is a caldari ship?Obviously you didnt read my origional post,i said... "Tbh the caldari carrier should get the fighter bonus"or something along those lines... And about gellente drone fighter thing,fighters and drones are not the same thing,fighters are mini ships with pilots,therefore unless we have a story about gellente surpassing caldari with fighters,caldari should still be better with fighters. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
Capt Rob Minmatar Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.22 22:28:00 - [104] some interesting new posts and ideas, thx for them all. If tux wont take notice till we get like a 20page thread, i wont rest till that is done
Victor Ivanov Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.03.22 23:08:00 - [105] Amen, I am with you on that. Any number of well thought out arguments were given to elaborate on our reasoning.
Speed Devil Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.22 23:35:00 - [106] Edited by: Speed Devil on 22/03/2007 23:31:46 200% to webberrange per lvl and targetpainting bonus would be cool Originally by: Merkanas To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.23 08:59:00 - [107] Originally by: Capt Rob some interesting new posts and ideas, thx for them all. If tux wont take notice till we get like a 20page thread, i wont rest till that is done He ignored the like 100 page amarr boost post so most likely 20 pages wont do it. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
Capt Rob Minmatar Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.23 12:36:00 - [108] Originally by: goodby4u Originally by: Capt Rob some interesting new posts and ideas, thx for them all. If tux wont take notice till we get like a 20page thread, i wont rest till that is done He ignored the like 100 page amarr boost post so most likely 20 pages wont do it. Different circumstances and i dont like amarr so maby tux dont like em either
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.23 13:28:00 - [109] Originally by: Capt Rob Originally by: goodby4u Originally by: Capt Rob some interesting new posts and ideas, thx for them all. If tux wont take notice till we get like a 20page thread, i wont rest till that is done He ignored the like 100 page amarr boost post so most likely 20 pages wont do it. Different circumstances and i dont like amarr so maby tux dont like em either Herecy.... __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space.
Tarron Sarek Gallente Endica Enterprises	Posted - 2007.03.23 13:30:00 - [110] Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 23/03/2007 13:27:19 Originally by: Kustra FIRE 5% reduction in capital shield booster needs per level ok so looking at racial ships caldari usually get a shield resinstance bonus, which its carrier has. amarr gets a armor hardening bonus, whihc its carrier also has. gallente get drones bonus OR armor rep amount bonus which its carrier has drones bonus. Minmatar get a shield boost bonus per level bonus... and why doesnt the carrier have it?? CCP hello? I understand it might make it very overpowered, but at least how about a shield booster cap reduction bonus then... any thoughts on this guys? Seconded. One odd/unique bonus isn't the way to go. Either all get their typical bonus (tank/dmg), or all get a special one. Or: - Make offensive bonuses small, defensive ones medium and logistic bonuses big. ___________________________________ _/_/ Game balance isn't just a luxury _/_/
Hiro Kazamatsuri Caldari Fatal Rabbits	Posted - 2007.03.23 14:21:00 - [111] minmatar is the mobile/speed race => Nid need a jump range bonus. Simple, useful, not overpowered.
Victor Ivanov Minmatar Liberty Rogues Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.03.23 14:38:00 - [112] While not a bad idea in itself, it has been pointed out that such a bonus becomes slightly unfeasible due to the fact that other carriers can't jump that far. Thus, you'd need a fleet of ONLY nidhoggurs to make use of that bonus. As soon as even one other carrier comes into the gang, he/she dictates the jump range.
Dray Caldari Endgame.	Posted - 2007.03.23 15:58:00 - [113] Originally by: Hiro Kazamatsuri minmatar is the mobile/speed race => Nid need a jump range bonus. Simple, useful, not overpowered. Like the previous post its no use unless its a nidhoggur fleet, get rid of the 2nd bonus its useless, kind of like giving a one legged man in an arsekicking contest first go...
Capt Rob Minmatar Black Omega Security GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.23 16:26:00 - [114] Originally by: Hiro Kazamatsuri minmatar is the mobile/speed race => Nid need a jump range bonus. Simple, useful, not overpowered. Well there have already been ideas expressed on why this woudt be good and anyway. this would have to go along with slot lay out fixes and cap fixs, or this just turn it into a carebear carrier for ppl to jump supplies in and our. which is not what a carriers true purpose should be
Pesadel0 Vagabundos	Posted - 2007.03.23 20:10:00 - [115] Originally by: Tarron Sarek Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 23/03/2007 13:27:19 Originally by: Kustra FIRE 5% reduction in capital shield booster needs per level ok so looking at racial ships caldari usually get a shield resinstance bonus, which its carrier has. amarr gets a armor hardening bonus, whihc its carrier also has. gallente get drones bonus OR armor rep amount bonus which its carrier has drones bonus. Minmatar get a shield boost bonus per level bonus... and why doesnt the carrier have it?? CCP hello? I understand it might make it very overpowered, but at least how about a shield booster cap reduction bonus then... any thoughts on this guys? Seconded. One odd/unique bonus isn't the way to go. Either all get their typical bonus (tank/dmg), or all get a special one. Or: - Make offensive bonuses small, defensive ones medium and logistic bonuses big. The boosting bonus seems cool ;) I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
Overlord Agnew Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.23 20:55:00 - [116] Well if they do a shield boost bonus which would be fine, they should give the Armor Rep boost bonus to the thanatos. Would fit in well with the established parameters of design and both would be good in their own ways. The archon is the best carrier in the game now anyways. Its tank is massive and if you are on the front line that is what counts. The jump range bonus, believe it or not, is a perfect bonus for the niddy too because it allows guerrilla warfare tactics that cannot be done with other carriers. Also, it allows short term supplies to be delivered to the guerrilla pilots. Any abuse from that skill isn't something that isn't already done anyway. A jump range rig should probaly be made btw Tux... if you are reading.
Sensless Killing	Posted - 2007.03.25 12:20:00 - [117] agree with most of the proposed changes and would love if tux acted on it
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios	Posted - 2007.03.25 13:17:00 - [118] Originally by: Sensless Killing agree with most of the proposed changes and would love if tux acted on it Tux doesnt read this forum anymore ;(,or if he reads he doesn't respond.I would be happy if he puts here STFU i pawned a **lente carrier on test server you minies should learn how to play. I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.*
Plymer Ization Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.26 15:50:00 - [119] Bump! I still have about 2 months of training before I'm flying my Nid, but boosts are welcome. Increase the CPU and give us a shieldboost bonus if you want us shield tanking with the current slot layout. Else swap a mid to a low please :)
James Avery	Posted - 2007.03.27 15:55:00 - [120] Nidhoggur needs to be meaner! /bump /signed

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