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Crucifier
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Crucifier Mc is sh*t, bring it wannabes..

Arent you supposed to be like, whining to ccp to get your belts back in jita?
LOL just when you think the toilet is already full of crap, along come BE with their usual verbal diarrhea ...
eat sh*t then, that way youll shut up and well get rid of some of the crap. ------
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Johncrab
Minmatar Typo Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:36:00 -
[272]
Test: BoD
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Eamz
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Eamz on 27/02/2007 23:34:26
Originally by: Ben Derindar Edited by: Ben Derindar on 27/02/2007 23:19:00 Two points. Firstly, where does it say mercs have to be politically neutral? Yes it would be in their best interests in order to maintain as wide a client base as possible, but if they can get by on what's available when taking any perceived political stance also into account, then more power to them I say.
Secondly:
Originally by: rig0r This game would be so much better without this forum.
So, so true. They should merge this with the summit and delete everything that isn't RP. That'd sort it out. 
/Ben
who said they did? its just MC arent admitting that they are .
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 27/02/2007 23:43:37 Edited by: Plutoinum on 27/02/2007 23:40:43
Originally by: Taison and in addition to my post on the previous page - When this all eve war started - AAA declared on MC. And i bet the lack of contrackt interest was for the reason that everyone thought, u have fun enough with them. As someone mentioned - u could have stated public that u dont hang on that BoB space u occupy and are ready to move out and be real mercs. instead we all read tons of yarrr and we will defend our home posts from MC members..... U can make the conclusion urself i guess
I see it a bit different. Maybe MC would have even rejected the contract offer from BoB, if the coalition of anti-bobs had respected and treated them as a neutral party. I have no idea. But now you guys will never now it and it has also become pointless.
The coalition have brandmarked MC as BoB pets already a long time ago and stated that they want MC's heads too. So this announcement is not surprising. In case BoB dies, MC would have been next target of the coalition anymay, no matter, if MC kept only playing with RAT in their personal war or if they take this contract from BoB and organize their efforts with them.
Under these circumstances taking the contract from BoB makes a lot more sense, than not accepting it in a last try to please the masses. Noone would have listened anyway and if BoB died, the would have been next. So really no point not to work together with BoB. The anti-bob masses have passed judgement on MC already a long time ago and at this point it looks like not much could have changed it, except something totally rediculous and unprofessional, like MC joining the anti-BoB coalition without a contract. That would have been a joke.
P.S.: Useless to think about it too much, now it's happy *pew* *pew* time and looks like everyone has to deal with it, until it's over this or the other way.  ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |

Trooper B99
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hatuk
everyone knows that. im not saying MC leaders are but at least 50% of MC members have mains in BoB (see, now im nice). personally know 2 MC guys that comfirmed me that long time ago. why i mention this? we will come to that later...

Oh thats priceless. And you *actually* believe this? 
As for the rest . . . sigh, everyones entitled to their own opinions. Our many clients and our leadership group know who they are and know what they've paid to have our services. Nothing we can say can change that to the majority of the people who've already decided what they want to know the truth is because it fits thier world view. Personally, I as a player know I'm telling the truth, I have access to ALL the forums (not just spied out or hacked out snippets), the TS with the alliance, the people in charge of our wee group, hell I've met alot of them personally. But my reputation built from my days in Curse Alliance doesn't count for much against, to be frank, the rising tide of utter ****e thats been seen of the Eve-O forums recently.
Believe what you want, at the end of the day, its what you all do no matter the proof anyways.
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:47:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Crucifier Mc is sh*t, bring it wannabes..

Arent you supposed to be like, whining to ccp to get your belts back in jita?
LOL just when you think the toilet is already full of crap, along come BE with their usual verbal diarrhea ...
eat sh*t then, that way youll shut up and well get rid of some of the crap.
 Now I'm curious... Tell me, do BE players do a special course to become E-Peen waving little smack-tard attention seekers. Or is there an entrance test before you join or what?
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:49:00 -
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Well I personally hope the MC burns with BoB but you're a good bunch so I also wish you the best of luck and hope you enjoy it.
Gl.
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XxAngelxX
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:51:00 -
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Quote:
no good luck to triumvirate though. you evil greifers dont need it.  
Us? We didnt even deserve a wardec from fix via kia :( sooo in our evil griefing ways we have just decced them.
GL to all involved. May the corpses be plentiful --------------------------------------
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:57:00 -
[279]
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Quote:
no good luck to triumvirate though. you evil greifers dont need it.  
Us? We didnt even deserve a wardec from fix via kia :( sooo in our evil griefing ways we have just decced them.
GL to all involved. May the corpses be plentiful
I am sure they will mate. Of course we're hoping there will be more of yours than there are of ours 
See you tomorrow evening... 
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Fedaykinn
Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:57:00 -
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Well I for one look forward to the future and the great fights this is gonna bring. Officially now all the lead alliances are in place. I knew mc would side with BOB it was obvious.
Lets look forward to many weeks/months of awesome pew pew action :)
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David Godfrey
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:04:00 -
[281]
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Quote:
no good luck to triumvirate though. you evil greifers dont need it.  
Us? We didnt even deserve a wardec from fix via kia :( sooo in our evil griefing ways we have just decced them.
GL to all involved. May the corpses be plentiful
I am sure they will mate. Of course we're hoping there will be more of yours than there are of ours 
See you tomorrow evening... 
Well if you keep engaging my poor curse when you arent at war with us then concorde are going to get most of the kills :\
You spelt Concord wrong god dont they teach you stuff at school oh yeah you suck!!!!! Good luck KIA will be fun like always
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: XxAngelxX
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Quote:
no good luck to triumvirate though. you evil greifers dont need it.  
Us? We didnt even deserve a wardec from fix via kia :( sooo in our evil griefing ways we have just decced them.
GL to all involved. May the corpses be plentiful
I am sure they will mate. Of course we're hoping there will be more of yours than there are of ours 
See you tomorrow evening... 
Well if you keep engaging my poor curse when you arent at war with us then concorde are going to get most of the kills :\
rolf...
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Mariko San
Saints Surrounded
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Larsson7 BDCI/FRICK/CONIN/ETNY on your doorstep, combined with DICE/BNC/EVOL/RKK/TAOSP is a frightening prospect for anyone.
Deny that fact and you are simply deluding yourself 
If this coalition won then all this would prove is long term powergamers with every t2 bpo in the game (quell surprise) are the eve i-win button so for everyone else, why even bother?
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Rawstyle
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:13:00 -
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MC motherships have been helping bob siege pos's in northern Querious for over a week before this announcement.....spin for the win 
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 28/02/2007 00:15:03
Originally by: Chewan Mesa
Originally by: Eamz Im neutral and to be honest it seems MC didnt do themselves any favours here. Ill be honest, i think BoB and MC will wipe the floor with the coalition etc. But you cannot come in here claiming some neutrality and its clear you dont particularly like being accused of being in BoB's pocket so why didnt you make a post two weeks ago offering your services to anyone who paid enough. The fact that you have never taken a contract against bob + its allies makes it clear enough. Ive always liked MC and had a soft spot if you will, and im sure they certainly started off as "mercenaries" and i believed this to be the case even when i was contracted against.
Something changed somewhere along the line and to be honest i think that this "needed our own space" thing kind of showed it up. Infact by having your own space you are no longer mercenaries in the true sense. The fact is you DIDNT need your own space to progress and arm a capital fleet, it just made things easier. Every time another post is made like this it ends up just convincing more and more people of your favouritism.
Anyway, gl in the war, i dont think you really need it but this is a sad state of affairs. Would have been much much more interesting and im sure much much more fun and beneficial to your organisation if you had made more of an effort to be contracted by someone else and prove once and for all your neutrality.
Sorry the rest of you (coalition), you really are going to need some luck.
What he said.
Aye, only a few have sifted through all the crap said about the MC over the years and realised that whether they'd take a contract against BoB is besides the point and has been since they took up residence in Delve. The "Will they, won't they!?" question was answered a long time ago, many of us just haven't realised it yet.
This is why these MCBoB threads are essentially pointless*. I personally think The MC would have just been better off openly siding with BoB a long time ago while remaining mercs. Eve entities are generally without morals, they'd still get hired either way.
This is of course my opinion.
*Note I'm not saying Seleenes announcement is pointless but rather the bickering and arguing that goes hand in hand with these posts.
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:16:00 -
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Expected this a week earlier tbh.
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Herculite
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ewa Quillam @Marko : Your jugement is biased since you assume MC are doing cool stuff, but later you are tacking into consideration the isk factor.
The coolest and funniest and most interesting thing for MC to do would have been to fight against BoB. Instead they've chosen, well they didn't chose, nothing has changed. So this is where all begins and ends.
Waiting 2 weeks to think and wait for offers? Who are we kidding around... The war is supposed to last months and even more. Pausing 2 weeks after finishing doubtfull contracts is let's say... light and doubtfull.
By the way, contracting works both way, you have to gain the client's trust. As a result, MC has won only BoB's and BoB's allies trust.
Since when is joining the zerg cool?
To my friends in MC (Yes thats you too Tomas), you don't know how jealous I am, you are getting paid to do what I do for fun. At least you can't get bored camping people in stations in empire with this one 
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:24:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Herculite
Originally by: Ewa Quillam @Marko : Your jugement is biased since you assume MC are doing cool stuff, but later you are tacking into consideration the isk factor.
The coolest and funniest and most interesting thing for MC to do would have been to fight against BoB. Instead they've chosen, well they didn't chose, nothing has changed. So this is where all begins and ends.
Waiting 2 weeks to think and wait for offers? Who are we kidding around... The war is supposed to last months and even more. Pausing 2 weeks after finishing doubtfull contracts is let's say... light and doubtfull.
By the way, contracting works both way, you have to gain the client's trust. As a result, MC has won only BoB's and BoB's allies trust.
Since when is joining the zerg cool?
To my friends in MC (Yes thats you too Tomas), you don't know how jealous I am, you are getting paid to do what I do for fun. At least you can't get bored camping people in stations in empire with this one 
Alot cooler then beeing the SLAVE you are ------
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Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:26:00 -
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There are no slaves in FIX, only muppets.
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:26:00 -
[290]
Could care less about the he said she said stuff. <3 selene and company. Don't mistake my respect to you guys as not wanting to kill your motherships! I want a nyx kill too 
See you in battle.
Team Minmatar
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:28:00 -
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In my eyes MC were never going to be neutral in this war. They are mercs, theyve shown it time and time again and they take contracts against most people. Whether they admit it or not having one powerful alliance behind you while not agreeable with some is probably the best move.
They are good fighters, capable fighters. However, i think with the war bob is fighting they need a few friends. Whether the coalition wins or loses, my alliance while small welcomes the MC's participation and KIA's AGAINST us. The more challenging the better regardless of winning or losing, we shall be there til the end.
Good luck MC Good luck KIA
I do have a question though to MC, is this war going to be in empire and 0.0 or just 0.0? Im assuming since you didnt post the war decs its just to be 0.0 but would like confirmation.
Regards Dark
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:30:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Audri Fisher
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Quote:
no good luck to triumvirate though. you evil greifers dont need it.  
Us? We didnt even deserve a wardec from fix via kia :( sooo in our evil griefing ways we have just decced them.
GL to all involved. May the corpses be plentiful
I am sure they will mate. Of course we're hoping there will be more of yours than there are of ours 
See you tomorrow evening... 
Well if you keep engaging my poor curse when you arent at war with us then concorde are going to get most of the kills :\
rolf...
Errrr.. yeah well, in my case it was the deadly combination of old age, short-sightedness, over-excitment and the usual "feature" filled overview.... . Plus I'm crap at PVP :)
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Therem Harth
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Debreault
2. Think she's lying and that she would never work against BoB.
If someone thinks Seleene is lying and would never fight BoB, that person is displaying the sort of preconceptions that kept the folks who are fighting BoB and LV from contacting her in the first place. They have not yet recognized that their preconceptions caused them to miss an opportunity and that those preconceptions need to be acknowledged and revised. The MC is role playing Mercenaries in EVE. If you approach them in a reasonable fashion and offer them a reasonable deal, they'll fight people for you.
That's what I think.
Unfortunately, this position of yours, Marko, is compromised by a simple fact that most of the time it was impossible to contact MC unless they had a reason to respond. And in a curious coincidence, most of the time the response wasn't forthcoming was when it was not in the interest of pro-BoB clique. In "impossible to contact" I mean exactly that - no response to funky website forms, no response to evemails to different designated contacts. Several occurences, various circumstances, different war theaters, yes I have first-hand knowledge and no, I won't be posting proofs/screenies/logs, people quoting internal MC forums in this thread are quite enough :)
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:33:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Herculite
Originally by: Ewa Quillam @Marko : Your jugement is biased since you assume MC are doing cool stuff, but later you are tacking into consideration the isk factor.
The coolest and funniest and most interesting thing for MC to do would have been to fight against BoB. Instead they've chosen, well they didn't chose, nothing has changed. So this is where all begins and ends.
Waiting 2 weeks to think and wait for offers? Who are we kidding around... The war is supposed to last months and even more. Pausing 2 weeks after finishing doubtfull contracts is let's say... light and doubtfull.
By the way, contracting works both way, you have to gain the client's trust. As a result, MC has won only BoB's and BoB's allies trust.
Since when is joining the zerg cool?
To my friends in MC (Yes thats you too Tomas), you don't know how jealous I am, you are getting paid to do what I do for fun. At least you can't get bored camping people in stations in empire with this one 
Alot cooler then beeing the SLAVE you are
I hear that if you keep calling them "slaves" or "pets", then you automatically get the last word in no matter what, because no one could ever think of a comeback to that! ------- Someone from MC peer-pressured me to smoke pot, now I'm cool. |

Sorela
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:35:00 -
[295]
Well I'm looking forward to some interesting fights at least since this war has been an absolute snoozefest so far.
That post elicits some thoughts of course.
Flat out MC have failed to continue to be mercenaries. Unlike what other people are saying though I don't think this has a single thing to do with you living in BoB space. The problem is that your mercenary company has too much military power. Your neutrality was impossible. The price required to pay you to fight vs bob was too high for the return whoever paid it would of gotten. The price you had to charge was too high because of the risk you'd have to take by fighting BoB. The degree of the risk for you in fighting BoB was that you would lose and they would come for you afterwards. They'd come after you because you'd cause so much damage. Catch 22. I'd be willing to bet the offer you got from BoB is nowhere near as good in terms of profit per pilot compared to what KIA is getting from FIX.
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:47:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Studi Well, no surprise at all, but respect for outing yourself as BOB pets now after this long hide as mercs 
Guns are waiting ... dismissed!
Hmmm, the term 'pets' even though being enduring to a certain point is apparently being postured in a negative by you vermin. Soo having said that, you oposing forces shall be known from this day on as:
bob's loo
Now, let's see if you can figure that one out.
No they are the Coalition of United Northern Territories (you can do the math) as I have said previously and has been echoed elsewhere on these forums. Did you ever know a C...T that was not a pet?
Have fun MC.
The time for talking is over. The C . . . T's doth protest too loudly about thee, oh MC.
Remember, sharks smell fear in the water. MC are the sharks. You figure the rest out.
Fail, fail, fail.
I know of a certain slave whos a little bitter, sucking so much c*ck for the territory they are about to loose, dont worry, ill think about letting you lick the dirt under my shoes. ------
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor
Originally by: Lord XSiV
Originally by: Studi Well, no surprise at all, but respect for outing yourself as BOB pets now after this long hide as mercs 
Guns are waiting ... dismissed!
Hmmm, the term 'pets' even though being enduring to a certain point is apparently being postured in a negative by you vermin. Soo having said that, you oposing forces shall be known from this day on as:
bob's loo
Now, let's see if you can figure that one out.
No they are the Coalition of United Northern Territories (you can do the math) as I have said previously and has been echoed elsewhere on these forums. Did you ever know a C...T that was not a pet?
Have fun MC.
The time for talking is over. The C . . . T's doth protest too loudly about thee, oh MC.
Remember, sharks smell fear in the water. MC are the sharks. You figure the rest out.
Fail, fail, fail.
I know of a certain slave whos a little bitter, sucking so much c*ck for the territory they are about to loose, dont worry, ill think about letting you lick the dirt under my shoes. ------
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Mattduk
Gallente Universal Army
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:58:00 -
[298]
Originally by: maGz Edited by: maGz on 27/02/2007 21:06:21
Originally by: Mattduk I think you're all missing the point of a mercenary corporation.
They are mercs. They don't care what you think. They don't care that you do not believe them to be neutral. They kill for money. As long as the money is coming in, they are happy. They cannot be trusted outside of a contract. They are cold blooded killers, raw, and without emotion, and often as such on the wrong side of the law. They don't trust you, so don't trust them.
Mercenaries taking advantage of someone allowing them to live in a certain area of space has absolutely no bearing on whether they would creep into the BOB bedrooms at night and slit every last throat. Any fool would take advantage of the opportunity to anchor Player Owned Structures and Outposts in space that is already semi-defended by an existing alliance. This doesn't make them BOB pets, it makes them smart.
I cannot believe how short sighted some people are. Sure, MC might be in the permanent employ of BOB, but equally they might not. Every single shred of evidence I have seen put forward by those posting in this thread, those who incidentally are now in the MC line of fire, is purely circumstantial and does not prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that MC are either in or out of the proverbial BOB pocket.
You can speculate all you want, but at the end of the day, without hard solid evidence, speculation's all you got, me ladio.
I am neutral in all this, which of course none of you will believe, but that's ok because I know it to be true, and I haven't the foggiest what is really going on inside the MC camp, nor the coalition's camp, nor BOB, nor anyone's but my own (and some people would argue that I don't even know that! ), but I sure as hell know the difference between whine-filled, desperate speculation and cold, hard facts.
Now off to bed kids, it's getting late and you have school in the morning. 
Kind regards Mattduk
If they don't care about what people think, why the long-winded post? Why the need to try and convince the general community that what they're doing now is not because they're BoB's pets, but because they were pushed into this?
EDIT: As it's evident with this thread, it's not really a surprise, which leads me to think Seleene posted this, not to inform about anything, but just to get attention. I'll probably get flamed for that, but is this any more needed than all the usual spam-threads in COAD?
One could say that every post on every thread is a cry for attention, don't you think?
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Mattduk
Gallente Universal Army
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Posted - 2007.02.28 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: maGz Edited by: maGz on 27/02/2007 21:06:21
Originally by: Mattduk I think you're all missing the point of a mercenary corporation.
They are mercs. They don't care what you think. They don't care that you do not believe them to be neutral. They kill for money. As long as the money is coming in, they are happy. They cannot be trusted outside of a contract. They are cold blooded killers, raw, and without emotion, and often as such on the wrong side of the law. They don't trust you, so don't trust them.
Mercenaries taking advantage of someone allowing them to live in a certain area of space has absolutely no bearing on whether they would creep into the BOB bedrooms at night and slit every last throat. Any fool would take advantage of the opportunity to anchor Player Owned Structures and Outposts in space that is already semi-defended by an existing alliance. This doesn't make them BOB pets, it makes them smart.
I cannot believe how short sighted some people are. Sure, MC might be in the permanent employ of BOB, but equally they might not. Every single shred of evidence I have seen put forward by those posting in this thread, those who incidentally are now in the MC line of fire, is purely circumstantial and does not prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that MC are either in or out of the proverbial BOB pocket.
You can speculate all you want, but at the end of the day, without hard solid evidence, speculation's all you got, me ladio.
I am neutral in all this, which of course none of you will believe, but that's ok because I know it to be true, and I haven't the foggiest what is really going on inside the MC camp, nor the coalition's camp, nor BOB, nor anyone's but my own (and some people would argue that I don't even know that! ), but I sure as hell know the difference between whine-filled, desperate speculation and cold, hard facts.
Now off to bed kids, it's getting late and you have school in the morning. 
Kind regards Mattduk
If they don't care about what people think, why the long-winded post? Why the need to try and convince the general community that what they're doing now is not because they're BoB's pets, but because they were pushed into this?
EDIT: As it's evident with this thread, it's not really a surprise, which leads me to think Seleene posted this, not to inform about anything, but just to get attention. I'll probably get flamed for that, but is this any more needed than all the usual spam-threads in COAD?
One could say that every post on every thread is a cry for attention, don't you think?
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turnschuh
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.02.28 01:11:00 -
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seleene lied, bob died
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