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Kalralahr	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:09:00 - [1] Small Version (596KB) Large Version (2.59MB) I've taken over for updating the latest map. Stars are brightened, hexes are toned down a bit, and fonts have been switched around. I've incorporated the changes in region claims from the last thread. Improving readability and looks, like all maps, will be a constant effort. What I'd like to hear from you are updates on any current conflicts. Current known front lines are: Querious. Razor Alliance holds a station, and the Northern Coalition has been having luck fighting BoB, FIX, and GUN. Xelas has stated these are the only powers involved in the conflict. Detorid, Tenerifis, Omist. The Southern Bloc holds around half the stations. LV has stated they are moving to Stain in the upcoming weeks, but they will stay on the map as long as they still hold stations in these areas. New regions: Lots of fighting in the area, but TNT has been the only one to report. They're currently fighting GUARD for control over 87-1CW and LQ-0QN. More information from both parties would be useful on who's aggressing and how the fight is going. Here are the details on the map: for conquerable 0.0 space, aggression (arrows) will be put down for active POS sieges in that region. Conflicting sovereignty (see the LV-controlled regions) are shown with multiple colors. Example: the last map showed a front line from the Northern coalition to Xelas/BoB territory in conquerable Fountain space. This was reported to be repelled, so the map indicator is gone. If BoB begins sieging Northern POSes at the same time as the Querious fight, there will be arrows pointing both ways. For 0.0 NPC space, things are trickier, and all I can really do is take people on their word. If you disagree with what's on the map, tell me in the thread. Please, PLEASE be specific. There were some changes I couldn't make because they amounted to "The aggression on the right side of the map is wrong." Tell me why it's wrong. With the amount of tenants in each major alliance, the in-game sovereignty map can only tell so much, and with the randomly-generated colors, it's very easy to miss an entire alliance in a region with a similar color. Since I'm asking for everyone else's claims, the regions officially claimed by Goonswarm are Scalding Pass, as well as the new 7-KXBJ region. Ethereal Dawn currently holds sovereignty in most 7-K systems with our blessing. Along with Red Alliance and KOS, we control around half the stations in Tenerifis, Omist, and Detorid. KOS controls most of the western half of Tenerifis. Anyone is free to argue these claims in this thread, just as they're free to argue anyone else's. We'll see how it all works out in the coming weeks. Enjoy!
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:11:00 - [2] Nice map :)
Braxmate Dark Rising Shadow Alektorophobia	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:15:00 - [3] IBTD. No corp or ally ticker. Go away, or post it somewhere else. "You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill -
Taz Devlin Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:15:00 - [4] pretty
RedSwarm One GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Braxmate IBTD. No corp or ally ticker. Go away, or post it somewhere else. There's only one thing worse than a forum troll. A rules ** who sits around waiting for somebody to break a minor rule and backseat modding in order to feel validated. SHUT UP**GOT
Narilka Iezu	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:22:00 - [6] The region held by KA-TET is a little hard to see due to the color used.
Alice Cholmondeley Christine.	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:35:00 - [7] Originally by: RedSwarm One Originally by: Braxmate IBTD. No corp or ally ticker. Go away, or post it somewhere else. There's only one thing worse than a forum troll. A rules ** who sits around waiting for somebody to break a minor rule and backseat modding in order to feel validated. SHUT UP**GOT Childish insults wont get you anywhere kiddo, get a grip. GS showing their classy side again.
Jacob Castillo Caldari Copperhead Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:35:00 - [8] Nice job. A lot better then the previous version, imo
Rilcon Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:40:00 - [9] Originally by: Kalralahr New regions: Lots of fighting in the area, but TNT has been the only one to report. They're currently fighting GUARD for control over 87-1CW and LQ-0QN. More information from both parties would be useful on who's aggressing and how the fight is going. Whoa, whoa... TNT is fighting The Guardian Coalition (OWN3D) for control over the 87 region. G.U.A.R.D. (GUARD) isn't involved, and we're certainly not fighting them. Other wise, neat map!
Coasterbrian Loss of Sanity	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:41:00 - [10] You need to separate Esoteria and Paragon Soul. They are two different regions that you have grouped into one. ---------- Loss of Sanity.
RedSwarm Seven School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.03.03 07:44:00 - [11] Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Childish insults wont get you anywhere kiddo, get a grip. GS showing their classy side again. Hey I have an idea stay the hell out of this map thread
Ladsmi	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:10:00 - [12] I have to say very nice map.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:10:00 - [13] Much nicer than v 1.0. I don't see the need to turn this into another Josh vs. Goon debate. It's quite easy to say that Josh's map represents a more 'strategic' look at EVE while this is a more 'tactical' map like you might see on nightly news reports. I couldn't create either one, so I salute the effort. As far as accuracy, MC controls one constellation of seven systems (J8-G8K) on the bottom right of Period Basis. We hardly even poke our nose outside our home when we're off contract. Also, please add MC to the list of entities currently defending Querious. There are a few others as well but they can speak for themselves. - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:15:00 - [14] Geminate is always the neglected bastard region when it comes to the map, always wrong, never gets fixed.
RedSwarm One GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Graalum Geminate is always the neglected bastard region when it comes to the map, always wrong, never gets fixed. This is a helpful post. I mean you could have specified exactly what was wrong so that the map updater could change it in the next patch, but who wants that I mean seriously
Drakma Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:22:00 - [16] The fight for Feythabolis has begun. Mostly Northern (VNGJ to AZN) and Eastern Feyth ----------------- Gekidoku is recruiting - Ingame channel Gekidoku
RedSwarm One GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:26:00 - [17] Originally by: Drakma The fight for Feythabolis has begun. Mostly Northern (VNGJ to AZN) and Eastern Feyth Could you please specify all parties engaging in Feyth and whether you're contesting sov or if you're just rading/warzoning it?
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:26:00 - [18] Originally by: RedSwarm One Originally by: Graalum Geminate is always the neglected bastard region when it comes to the map, always wrong, never gets fixed. This is a helpful post. I mean you could have specified exactly what was wrong so that the map updater could change it in the next patch, but who wants that I mean seriously I stated exacty what needed to be fixed in the last map thread. Ingame sovereignty should be very accurate to who claims what. This map has smash where CI are, CI where no one is, pure in RK space, and part of RK in smash space. At least is doesn't say two completely related entities are fighting there like josh's does.
Kalralahr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:29:00 - [19] Edited by: Kalralahr on 03/03/2007 08:32:12 Originally by: Graalum Geminate is always the neglected bastard region when it comes to the map, always wrong, never gets fixed. I'm updating the map right now. So far, MC is squished into a corner, Paragon Soul actually exists, the Geminate colors cover the entire region, and the entirety of the new regions are getting an overhaul. It's a nightmare to figure out who actually controls what in Geminate and the new regions area - in the space of one hex, there can be 4+ alliances. In the one I'm looking at, I have it as Roadkill controlling the lower right, Smash in the lower area, Cruel Intentions in the upper center and The Society in the upper left. Pure's control stops in Vale of the Silent. Good enough? Any of these tenants of larger alliances? Edit: This is all packed into the right side of the region, I realize no one controls the left half.
Drakma Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:36:00 - [20] Originally by: RedSwarm One Originally by: Drakma The fight for Feythabolis has begun. Mostly Northern (VNGJ to AZN) and Eastern Feyth Could you please specify all parties engaging in Feyth and whether you're contesting sov or if you're just rading/warzoning it? Koroshiya Buntai is contesting sov in northern feyth, Intrepid crossing has sov in eastern feyth. And obviously RA/Goons are in Eastern Feyth Coalition: Koroshiya Buntai Intrepid Crossing Celestial Horizon INVICTUS BoB + Allies: Rise Miners with Attitude Red Moon Federation Lotka Voltera Gods of Night and Day ----------------- Gekidoku is recruiting - Ingame channel Gekidoku
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:41:00 - [21] Edited by: Seleene on 03/03/2007 08:38:16 Originally by: Kalralahr So far, MC is squished into a corner M8, I was trying to be supportive and constructive by just clarifying where we live. This is hardly the response I was expecting... - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
munchy Prison Break Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: RedSwarm One Originally by: Graalum Geminate is always the neglected bastard region when it comes to the map, always wrong, never gets fixed. This is a helpful post. I mean you could have specified exactly what was wrong so that the map updater could change it in the next patch, but who wants that I mean seriously At least is doesn't say two completely related entities are fighting there like josh's does. which has already been fixed, stop complaining and send him a mail letting him know whats wrong. respect to the guys who dont moan over their territory being 2 pixels too small, tbh. there are alliances which dont even request being put on the map. ---
Kalralahr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 03/03/2007 08:38:16 Originally by: Kalralahr So far, MC is squished into a corner M8, I was trying to be supportive and constructive by just clarifying where we live. This is hardly the response I was expecting... No no, I meant I squished you into that one constellation in the latest version, like you asked.
Armois Delgato FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 08:50:00 - [24] Much improved from the last version and quite useful. I like the hexes for their 'wargame' feel and shifting fronts showings. I like Josh's maps as well, but this isn't too bad. I hate to say it, but good work.
GhostWhoWalks Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.03 09:15:00 - [25] This map is far better than you last map and it is imo better than Josh's for the moment.
Commander Nikolas Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.03.03 09:54:00 - [26] I really do like this map. Since it's creation it seems to be alot more geared to tactical information about conflicts then the previous map. I am not saying that this map is better or worse then Josh's. Honestly, good job.
Ademus Gallente Universal Industries PLC.	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:01:00 - [27] Why did Curse Alliance call themselves Curse Alliance?
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:02:00 - [28] Nice map, but i would like Triumvirates name on the northern coalition, we have many capitals down there and play a large part in the coalition. Would be appreciated.
Anaximander Monk Mandala Group	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:02:00 - [29] Looks great. Although its hard to tell goonswarm and RA apart.
Kalralahr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:08:00 - [30] Map updated with comments in this thread. Major overhaul done to the new regions. Thanks for the info/comments, I'm going to sleep.
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:28:00 - [31] Heya goonies again id like to point out that Dusk & Dawn do not own Venal, it is owned 100% under the sovereignty of Gurista Pirates please refrain from giving that region to Dusk & Dawn as you can't claim an npc region regardless of it being 0.0 or not. And to those that will turn around and say 'Fountain is an npc region then' i say to you look at the in game map, Check the Soverignity for Gurista Pirates and Serpentis and the say the above line again.
pulsarite Gallente Point-Zero Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:54:00 - [32] Much better than previous. I can actually SEE the systems now.As far as I know, its all correct. Does the bit at the top right corner really need to be THAT big though? If you have noticed this notice then you will notice that this notice should not be noticed. Alex Karp > "You are a maniac puls."
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 10:59:00 - [33] The top 4 constellations north of Rule of Three is claimed by RZR as a share between us/Morsus Mihi/D2 and Iron. We claim it and administer it. But they are allowed to us it with us. Pls update the map accordingly and thanks for a great service.
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.03.03 11:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 03/03/2007 08:38:16 Originally by: Kalralahr So far, MC is squished into a corner M8, I was trying to be supportive and constructive by just clarifying where we live. This is hardly the response I was expecting... I think you misunderstood. Nice map btw. But one question - are you gonna upload it with the same filename on updates? I mean in a similar way josh does with his effort. Originally by: Cipher7 Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.03 12:18:00 - [35] Nice update. - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
maarud Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.03 12:20:00 - [36] D2 are still fighting in fountain. Also, fountain is a BoB region and doesn't belong to Xeles, mark it so. Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.03 12:38:00 - [37] Really like what you have done with making the hexes more transparent and the outer ring a bit more intense etc. It's still a bit hard on the eyes, but it makes up with a bit more of detail over the other map. I'm liking it so far. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Liabrath Gallente Argent Industries	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:01:00 - [38] My eyes are hurting === === === === === If I win an auction, please send me a contract link by EvE mail.
Cazziel Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:07:00 - [39] IRON is missing again. We're part of the Northern Coalition.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Cazziel IRON is missing again. some things never change _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
NereSky Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:14:00 - [41] Tbh i quite like it :) it would be nice to see it linked alongside the map from Joshua, not to replace it as i recognise joshua's hard work ect but a alternative is always nice to see.
semp Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:23:00 - [42] How do you define regional aggression?? Take Goon space for example, their space looks peaceful enough, yet over the last month Interdiction has waged a campaign against them in their home, resulting in over 500 ship losses so far for the goonies. This will continue until our current contract expires.
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:45:00 - [43] Nice update - http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/Jameswsig.jpg WeComeInPeace Video Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit
Francesca Dell'Agio eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.03 13:45:00 - [44] In the TNT case I believe you are confusing GUARD with the Guardian Coalition in 87-1CW, check with SolApathy for more info. LQ-0QN is under GUARD claim for their constellation and INVICTUS. for the rest of the northern half of the region. WTB: In Game Map Setting: Players logged off in system last 24 hours. Guess why ^^
katz3 Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.03 14:52:00 - [45] I like it. Thanks for the lowres version, for those of us who dont own huge monitors ___________________ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
THEGREAT LOBO PsyCorp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 15:02:00 - [46] Nice map dude Keep the updates coming
Enders Vaal SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.03 15:23:00 - [47] You should really include a link to the map version before the latest map, so we can do a quick tab back and forth to see the progress made or lost --- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
Three0fNine FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.03 15:32:00 - [48] Very nice map.
Kaia Kua Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:22:00 - [49] i love this map, but a latest link like the other map will help alot. i don't see anything wrong with the map its self in the design, the correct positions of alliances will be corrected eventually. Originally by: CCP Wrangler ... we are not making things easier simply because people complain, though constructive criticism does have an effect, simply saying "I don't like this" doesn't.
NebulousBlur Minmatar Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:51:00 - [50] Beautiful map, a definite refinement over the last version. A few of the colours are hard to see when they are not near the borders of the regions, Band of Brothers, Tau Ceti, Ratel, TNT. There are a few hexes in the drone regions that I cannot tell if they are coloured or not, they look black but have the hilights and effects on them. They are between XPact and Ka-Tet. My only critique is that it is sometimes hard to tell where the boundaries between two alliances are. The glowing borders for regions are nice and really stand out. This is probably too difficult to achieve without a lot of work, but would it be possible to do something similar with 2 bordering alliances. Perhaps you can even use different borders to show the nature of the relationship, one for actively hostile, one for neutral, one for friendly. For instance, the Goonswarm/Red Alliance borders would have the friendly border colors, while Red Alliance/LV border would have the hostile colors. Another suggestion as an alternative to the above idea is to give the alliance areas a border depending on their policies - NBSI would have one type of border, NRDS would have another. Additional policies could include "NBSI, allies please stay out" and "NBSI, allies welcome" and so forth. This would be a lot more work, but it would convey more useful information. I don't know how you have the map setup as far as layers go, but if you have a layer for each alliance you could create a couple of different border/outline style presets and just smack em onto that layer. Final idea, could you show the NPC factions that have sov? I think that would be an interesting idea, it could be very subdued compared to the alliances
NebulousBlur Minmatar Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:51:00 - [51] Beautiful map, a definite refinement over the last version. A few of the colours are hard to see when they are not near the borders of the regions, Band of Brothers, Tau Ceti, Ratel, TNT. There are a few hexes in the drone regions that I cannot tell if they are coloured or not, they look black but have the hilights and effects on them. They are between XPact and Ka-Tet. My only critique is that it is sometimes hard to tell where the boundaries between two alliances are. The glowing borders for regions are nice and really stand out. This is probably too difficult to achieve without a lot of work, but would it be possible to do something similar with 2 bordering alliances. Perhaps you can even use different borders to show the nature of the relationship, one for actively hostile, one for neutral, one for friendly. For instance, the Goonswarm/Red Alliance borders would have the friendly border colors, while Red Alliance/LV border would have the hostile colors. Another suggestion as an alternative to the above idea is to give the alliance areas a border depending on their policies - NBSI would have one type of border, NRDS would have another. Additional policies could include "NBSI, allies please stay out" and "NBSI, allies welcome" and so forth. This would be a lot more work, but it would convey more useful information. I don't know how you have the map setup as far as layers go, but if you have a layer for each alliance you could create a couple of different border/outline style presets and just smack em onto that layer. Final idea, could you show the NPC factions that have sov? I think that would be an interesting idea, it could be very subdued compared to the alliances
Haargoth Agamar S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:52:00 - [52] Nice map.
Haargoth Agamar S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:52:00 - [53] Nice map.
SHC Derek We Know Derek	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:56:00 - [54] Map that updates every week = automatic win --
SHC Derek We Know Derek	Posted - 2007.03.03 17:56:00 - [55] Map that updates every week = automatic win --
Sieg Zeon	Posted - 2007.03.03 18:34:00 - [56] Originally by: semp Edited by: semp on 03/03/2007 13:25:28 How do you define regional aggression?? Take Goon space for example, their space looks peaceful enough, yet over the last month Interdiction has waged a campaign against them in their home, resulting in over 500 ship losses for the goonies. This will continue until our current contract expires. Quote: Here are the details on the map: for conquerable 0.0 space, aggression (arrows) will be put down for active POS sieges in that region. Conflicting sovereignty (see the LV-controlled regions) are shown with multiple colors. Example: the last map showed a front line from the Northern coalition to Xelas/BoB territory in conquerable Fountain space. This was reported to be repelled, so the map indicator is gone. If BoB begins sieging Northern POSes at the same time as the Querious fight, there will be arrows pointing both ways. If you'd bothered to read the op you wouldn't have even needed to ask.
Boosthungry Darkblade Technologies Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:01:00 - [57] You might want to extend IAC's space a little more. Stations in FAT, V2, and 5-N are now under IAC control.
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:39:00 - [58] WHAT THE CRAP DID YOU DO TO MY MAP?! It looks like dogs breakfast now!
Rannek Ven	Posted - 2007.03.03 19:56:00 - [59] Great colors by the way. It really is pleasant to the eyes.
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:10:00 - [60] Originally by: Armois Delgato Much improved from the last version and quite useful. I like the hexes for their 'wargame' feel and shifting fronts showings. I like Josh's maps as well, but this isn't too bad. I hate to say it, but good work. Armois, I never expected to see another GS positive post from you ever again, even if this map is only related to GS golfclappin' ----------------- http://www.eve-provenance.com
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 20:13:00 - [61] I don't know why but I seem ot like your map better. Got nothing to do with being biased. Something new! Anyway keep up the good work. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
RedSwarm One GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:05:00 - [62] A sticky would be nice, mods.
Esurnir Amarr Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:08:00 - [63] (disclaimer, I'm nothing official etc. etc.) But as far as I can tell. There is a non open stated fight between ratel and frege. It's nothing official but frege space get raided by those quite a few time now, but not only by them but also by blood raiders alliance (hello Xaeon !), and astral wolves that I assumed got **ed by some of our 0.0 access gatecamp. The only thing that distenguished ratal from blood raider alliance and astral wolves is that we go into their space and we had a big fleet battle that ended with 3 carrier losses. And from the looks on the map (16 jump separating JOP Salutes Boudro Station and their homesystems, one carrier/dread jump gap only), I can bet they are gonna be loads of stronthium burnt. But that's crystal ball thinking, right now most of engagement are raid made by either side into their home systems. ---- Quote:** Thou shall pew pew. Book of Revelation 12, 51
Gaunty Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:18:00 - [64] Very nice map, i like it, deserves a sticky. But as mentioned above its Guardian Coalition we're attacking not GUARD.
Tiberyya Za Gallente Bellum Aeternus The Makhai	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:27:00 - [65] Very good work Kalralahr and Stahlregen. Corrections: * Vale of the Silent is split between 3 alliances now-a-days. * Empire space is controlled by Privateers Alliance (kidding, kidding.) Constructive criticism: A) Please mark hexes with NPC sovereignty in some distinctive way (with white borders perhaps.) B) An animated GIF of the southern regions over time would be very cool. C) Up to 25% of hexes are covering empty space (no systems underneath.) * LV's southern territory -- there are only 6 blocks with systems underneath, yet you give em 24 blocks. * GoonSwarm's northern territory includes a large block between Scalding Pass and 7-KXBJ without underlying systems. * Red Alliance north of Insmother * Band of Brothers southwest of Omist. * etc.
Ventallia Renvess	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:37:00 - [66] I'd reccomend moving the layers map and mapblur above the alliance hexes. Set mapblur above map, make it visible, 4 px Gaussian blur and set blending mode to linear dodge. That will improve system visibility a lot. Also, Increase the opacity of alliance hexes, and create a mask layer to the hex group, then take a soft brush of about 65-100 px and brush black onto the constellations (mask layer ofc). Will keep constellation visibility high but make the alliance borders more defined. I'd do it myself but apparently you no longer provide the source .psd file
Copine Callmeknau The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:38:00 - [67] Ventallia is me, damn default charector changing on me >_< ----- Originally by: wrong on so many levels you couldn't be more wrong if you were tuxford
ishkabibble Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.04 03:39:00 - [68] still needs work nice concept, lotta form but little function "I have no clue what weapons we will fight the third world war with, but the fourth world war will be fought with sticks and rocks" - Albert Einstein
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 04:03:00 - [69] Xelas doesn't want to be shown on the map. BoB claim Fountain, thats how it has always been.
Niedar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.04 04:04:00 - [70] Edited by: Niedar on 04/03/2007 04:00:59 Ka-Tet claims the entirety of the 6hl8 region.
Grant Smith Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 04:41:00 - [71] I accept Curse can't be "claimed" in the same manner as of which the Great Wildlands can't be claimed. But if, as this map is showing, the Curse Alliance is soverign over non-controllable space, then the region of Curse should also be set to either Curse Alliance, TCF or a mix... as it is by no means neutral.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.03.04 04:50:00 - [72] I didn't truely grasp how quickly LV is falling. Wow, props to the Eastern front.
BuyN Sell	Posted - 2007.03.04 05:15:00 - [73] Originally by: Proxay Xelas doesn't want to be shown on the map. BoB claim Fountain, thats how it has always been. Don't worry neither of you will be there much longer.
Kia Lovetly Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 10:49:00 - [74] Edited by: Kia Lovetly on 04/03/2007 10:48:39 Overall it looks very nice and I like the new map. Now... Originally by: Tiberyya Za Corrections: * Empire space is controlled by Privateers Alliance. Hell why not add us as controlling empire Nobody asks to be a hero, It just sometimes turns out that way.
Iron Jaw The Forsakened Companions	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:08:00 - [75] I didnt know what to expect when i opened up the file.... Has to be said, i like it, gives you a really nice tactical feel for whats going on. IJ
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:11:00 - [76] Originally by: BuyN Sell Originally by: Proxay Xelas doesn't want to be shown on the map. BoB claim Fountain, thats how it has always been. Don't worry neither of you will be there much longer. d2+friends attacks on fountain have been fruitless thus far, troll elsewhere, I'm awaiting their next move.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:16:00 - [77] Originally by: BuyN Sell Originally by: Proxay Xelas doesn't want to be shown on the map. BoB claim Fountain, thats how it has always been. Don't worry neither of you will be there much longer. Oh dear, will the School of Applied Knowledge be coming to conquer the region so all spineless alts can hide there? What on earth are we gonna do. ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
BuyN Sell	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:20:00 - [78] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: BuyN Sell Originally by: Proxay Xelas doesn't want to be shown on the map. BoB claim Fountain, thats how it has always been. Don't worry neither of you will be there much longer. Oh dear, will the School of Applied Knowledge be coming to conquer the region so all spineless alts can hide there? What on earth are we gonna do. I'm fairly sure the School of Applied Knowledge is as much of a factor as your 18 man alliance of armchair failures.
Yucali Candy Hearts	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:28:00 - [79] Can this get a sticky? much better than other stupid map
maarud Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:34:00 - [80] Originally by: BuyN Sell Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: BuyN Sell Originally by: Proxay Xelas doesn't want to be shown on the map. BoB claim Fountain, thats how it has always been. Don't worry neither of you will be there much longer. Oh dear, will the School of Applied Knowledge be coming to conquer the region so all spineless alts can hide there? What on earth are we gonna do. I'm fairly sure the School of Applied Knowledge is as much of a factor as your 18 man alliance of armchair failures. 18 man !? I'll have you know we've had corp chat peak at 27 once! Sheesh Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:59:00 - [81] The bigger the alliance the crappier it is 9/10 times... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:59:00 - [82] The bigger the alliance the crappier it is 9/10 times... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:17:00 - [83] can we have the thread sticky please? R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:17:00 - [84] can we have the thread sticky please? R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:24:00 - [85] Unless I'm mistaken (which is always a possibility, these days) The Northern Coalition is still aggressing Fountain. Some arrows would be nice --------
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:24:00 - [86] Unless I'm mistaken (which is always a possibility, these days) The Northern Coalition is still aggressing Fountain. Some arrows would be nice --------
Saba Quiestador	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:29:00 - [87] It would be great if you could put the last revision date/time (EVE time) on the map somewhere, either in small print on the bottom, or in the box that summarizes the conflicts.
Saba Quiestador	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:29:00 - [88] It would be great if you could put the last revision date/time (EVE time) on the map somewhere, either in small print on the bottom, or in the box that summarizes the conflicts.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:30:00 - [89] Originally by: BuyN Sell Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: BuyN Sell Originally by: Proxay Xelas doesn't want to be shown on the map. BoB claim Fountain, thats how it has always been. Don't worry neither of you will be there much longer. Oh dear, will the School of Applied Knowledge be coming to conquer the region so all spineless alts can hide there? What on earth are we gonna do. I'm fairly sure the School of Applied Knowledge is as much of a factor as your 18 man alliance of armchair failures. The quality of education at the SAK is still at an all time low then i take it? ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
RaYmEn Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:56:00 - [90] D2 claims the west part of Pure Blind. West Pure Blind is between fade and cloud ring. thx ----
Kalralahr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:05:00 - [91] Map updated. Please tell me if I missed anything. Crashed about halfway through and lost quite a bit of changes, though they should all be added back.
Admiral Seafort DarkStar 1	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:25:00 - [92] The link resolutions are reversed; high leads to low and low to high. Maybe date the "Previous map" link, as you should begin to accumulate many previous revisions and such a practice would alleviate confusion. ----- It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it.
Thoric Frosthammer The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:39:00 - [93] A) Invictus has squat all to do with the battle in northern feyth, other than generally supporting the coalition and, having been former residents of the area, having the occassional roaming ganksquad to blow up RISE and other regional residents. We're certainly not contesting sov there last I checked. B) Invictus claims YM-SRU, the constellation it's in, and a couple of neighboring constellations. That spot between GUARD and TNT? That's us. You keep calling us the northern part of TNT or the southern part of GUARD as far as I can tell :P
Kalralahr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:01:00 - [94] Fixed the links in the OP. Some kind of timestamping will happen; right now, there are still major changes to the look of the thing :) Thoric Frosthammer - Took you off the list of alliances in Feyth. That was mentioned by Drakma / Koroshiya Buntai. The new regions are a huge mess of land grabbing, one that I'll address in the next couple updates. The problem is there are a lot of different alliances all claiming sovereignty within the space of one hexagon. Another problem is that some alliances are claiming multiple constellations but no stations, whereas Invictus claims two systems, one of which contains an outpost. There's also a huge amount of overlap in that region's 2D map. :\ I'm talking it over with some other people, but you're not forgotten or anything.
Laura Baretta Minmatar Caelestis Caedes	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:17:00 - [95] For neutralities sake you should change the arrows to front lines, or two arrows pointing at each other as front lines. It's not like you don't meet resistance.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:21:00 - [96] Originally by: Patch86 Unless I'm mistaken (which is always a possibility, these days) The Northern Coalition is still aggressing Fountain. Some arrows would be nice Quoting myself, in case you missed it chuck --------
Saldio Banderas Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:32:00 - [97] Originally by: Laura Baretta For neutralities sake you should change the arrows to front lines, or two arrows pointing at each other as front lines. It's not like you don't meet resistance. I believe the arrows at the moment only signify POS warfare for pertinence and ease of viewing. You have to draw the line somewhere otherwise the map becomes cluttered and can be a bit confusing.
Virtuozzo IVC Consortium INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:55:00 - [98] Originally by: Kalralahr Thoric Frosthammer - Took you off the list of alliances in Feyth. That was mentioned by Drakma / Koroshiya Buntai. The new regions are a huge mess of land grabbing Thoric is not an IVC liaison. And he is wrong. Invictus. is happily messing up Feyth, both as coalition and as general anti stress therapy. AZN however was last time I checked the only system with a sovereignty contest, then again so much stuff happens around it is hard to keep track of. IVC claims and holds the GDBW-2 and neighbouring constellations, since the end of the war with F4T4L Alliance. GUARD is just to the north of us, not to be confused with Guardian Coalition who are being removed by TNT elsewhere. The new regions are not a mess actually. Current regional factions are RULE, Ka-tet, Invictus, Guard, The Pentagram, Dark Matter Coalition, X-Pact, TNT and Frege, with (as you know) Goon with ED in 7-k. Beyond those there are numerous corporations and smaller alliances active, mostly within commercial or other relations of the above. Virtuozzo RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!"
Steve Nash	Posted - 2007.03.06 06:09:00 - [99] Posting with an unidentified character in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Steve Nash	Posted - 2007.03.06 06:35:00 - [100] Just sticky the map and stop being rule ****s.
Kalralahr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.06 07:21:00 - [101] Originally by: Steve Nash Just sticky the map and stop being rule ****s. Nah, the cleanup was appreciated. Let me prove I can keep it up to date on a strict schedule, and the sticky will happen on its own. Next update is a big one. The South has changed drastically, every major power has made some kind of a regional siege (including BoB), and smaller power struggles are happening all over the place. I have plans for the new regions within the next couple updates, including a way of organizing the sheer number of people claiming sovereignty compared with the small number with outposts. It's interesting what can happen within just three days.
NereSky Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.06 08:12:00 - [102] I think the map should be stickied alongside joshua's, well if they choose not to go with player requests ill just keep saying how i like this map and keep it on the top so most can use it and enjoy it
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.06 10:05:00 - [103] Kalralahr, no disrespect intended if it wasn't your intention, but including FIX on the map is something we've never asked for, and with the current climate would suggest a political bias... nor have we in the past extended our borders north or westward to the extent you have shown in this recent update. Southern Querious around the constellation containing the H74 station is not populated by FIX these days either, but rather GUN. FIX hasn't officially claimed space on the Eve-O maps since CODA. It's a nice looking map, but the only one that is relevant to FIX at this time is Eve Influence Map by Paladin Vent that is in it's early stages. Blog
Tenaka Kahn Minmatar Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.03.06 11:25:00 - [104] Edited by: Tenaka Kahn on 06/03/2007 11:34:34 -Edited- On a grand scale didnt really matter. Nice map though.
MostDamage Russian Thunder Squad	Posted - 2007.03.06 11:49:00 - [105] nice map. thx
Mag's Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.06 14:52:00 - [106] The new one looks great guys. GJ
Katharina Gorbacheva Amarr Soviet Star Federation	Posted - 2007.03.06 16:07:00 - [107] Great map, it looks really good. You might want to fix the date of the thread though, 3 April 2007 hasnt been yet, also I hope the next update wont take 3 months as being stated in the OP. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
demogod The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.03.06 16:35:00 - [108] kos controls west tener region to nzw plz update map and nice map thx
Draahk Chimera Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.06 16:39:00 - [109] When you are in Gem it feels big enough but when you open the starmap its like 2 pixels wide. I appreciete the difficulty in making that part of space look good on a map like this one. I therefore congratulate you to a job very well done indeed. Keep up the good work. Go Goonies!
Arushia Nova Labs	Posted - 2007.03.07 05:22:00 - [110] Edited by: Arushia on 07/03/2007 05:19:03 Like the notations on which areas are NPC 0.0. You might want to give NPC its own color on the map, preferably light gray.
Ravelin Eb Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.07 08:33:00 - [111] This map is like candy for my eyes.
Clotaire	Posted - 2007.03.07 22:23:00 - [112] Could the mapmaker add a date to the map, it would be easier to put them in chronological order.
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.08 01:36:00 - [113] Kalralahr, could you make Kalahn to update his psd file with the map with the new fonts etc that you have in your map?, because this map is awesome Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
Kalralahr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.08 04:34:00 - [114] Map updated. Holy crap, the galaxy is at war. I'll include the PSD with the next update.
Drakma Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.08 05:06:00 - [115] Dang, just missed the update. Gekidoku now controls the VNGJ-U station in Feythabolis. ----------------- Gekidoku is recruiting - Ingame channel Gekidoku
TrippyX Caldari The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.09 12:41:00 - [116] On your map you show Invictus alliance as "INV" but our tag is "IVC" so if you could change that in future maps that would be nice ____________________ I ♥ [TSYND]
Shiftless Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.03.09 13:52:00 - [117] You forgot FLA on the Cloud Ring and Fountain assault lists.
Tiberyya Za Gallente Bellum Aeternus The Makhai	Posted - 2007.03.09 21:20:00 - [118] Update for Vale of the Silent http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/0703/MWSnap009.jpg
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.09 21:28:00 - [119] Originally by: Tiberyya Za Update for Vale of the Silent http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/0703/MWSnap009.jpg Love the alliance name m8
Kalralahr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.11 02:59:00 - [120] Map updated, mostly minor changes and a few new assaults by PKS and BoB. R0ot, I'm not removing Great Wildlands, Curse, Stain, Venal, Outer Ring and Syndicate, or poking holes in Delve, Fountain, and Geminate. This is a territorial control map, not a sovereignty map. They're marked as NPC 0.0 space.
Deckert Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:31:00 - [121] Fallen souls owns the station in 111- in esoteria and AAA owns the station in upper esoteria. Plus Bob claims esoteria so esoteria should be contested between BoB and AAA. I know I am not a Liason but its not that hard to look on the map and see who owns what .
Rick Thwaites A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:50:00 - [122] Edited by: Rick Thwaites on 11/03/2007 04:52:53 The last times I tried to post the forums went screwy. I love the shapes, and it makes for a different look. EDIT: Changed wording. --
Ana Nikolic Black Pearl Cartel	Posted - 2007.03.11 05:21:00 - [123] nice map, i like it lot. And it keeps improving. But Venal is completely NPC space, now if you gonna let someone claim it then let ppl claim stain and syndicate and etc. u get the picture. keep up good job
Nymos Fimbulvintr	Posted - 2007.03.11 10:24:00 - [124] i like this map (low res) most of all the alliance maps. joshua's map used to be very good, but the new version is way too large. i don't intend to print it poster size, i prefer something that is viewable at 1280 or 1600 screen res. it's not important to see every tiny alliance holding one irrelevant constellation. keep up the good work. i can't verify the accuracy and whether it's half-way unbiased, but that's not necessary anyway. the big picture is well done :) --
Trytonx The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.03.11 10:58:00 - [125] Very nice map, looks great Originally by: Danari My mining group can still suck the chrome off a Nyx.
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:41:00 - [126] Any chance you could have a "latest.jpg" that always reflects the latest update? Also, eastern Pure Blind has a couple of NPC constellations, if you're interested in marking that up
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.11 18:40:00 - [127] Now i just want the psd file of the whole map Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.11 23:52:00 - [128] The lack of a marker on Great Wildlands is a joke. CA barely exists there any more and when they do they are docked and they are currently a minority. Since you dodnt seem to do war markers I d suggest same treatment as Stain and Sundicate, that is, if your map is an attempt to depict whats happening on TQ and not a propaganda tool. Graphically it is great. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.03.12 04:53:00 - [129] Since when did curse alliance control curse? ALL NPC regions should be unclaimed as no one entity can control them. CA is a perfect example as there WAY more non-CA in curse than there is CA! Same thing with the 7-K region. You have it marked as controlled by goonswarm when in fact the vast majority of the region is occupied by others.
Anthal Order's Chaos FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.16 16:34:00 - [130] taps watch Is this thing broken? Swear it says the 16th... In all seriousness, I look forward to these maps to see the progress of not only my own alliance, but the other alliances that are at war. I know it takes alot of time and effort to produce these, and this post is an attempt to show my gratification.
D75485 Underworld Zombies	Posted - 2007.03.17 21:15:00 - [131] nice map guys
NightmareX Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 17:12:00 - [132] Is it possible to get the psd file for this new map? Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred
Phoebus Athenian Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.22 17:45:00 - [133] Tres cool map, good job :) ---
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.22 17:53:00 - [134] Originally by: Crellion The lack of a marker on Great Wildlands is a joke. CA barely exists there any more and when they do they are docked and they are currently a minority. Since you dodnt seem to do war markers I d suggest same treatment as Stain and Sundicate, that is, if your map is an attempt to depict whats happening on TQ and not a propaganda tool. Graphically it is great. There is no war in GW.. Although CA does not control GW really. Most CA players are in aridia / Goon land... This is the reason for lack of CA power in GW. Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
IHaul4U Toolz Inc	Posted - 2007.03.22 18:02:00 - [135] Wow kinda interesting how biased this is now... Goons/RA gaining space.. Updated ever couple of days... KOS loosing C3... No update not even a push on the map. Map looks good just needs to be right or not have it at all. And if your not going to update it every few days then you need to state what your update schedule is so it doesn't look biased unless you don't care.
acompton Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:14:00 - [136] I am attacking Irkutsk with 20 units.. /rolls dice Triple Six! Oops wrong game
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:17:00 - [137] Originally by: IHaul4U Wow kinda interesting how biased this is now... Goons/RA gaining space.. Updated ever couple of days... KOS loosing C3... No update not even a push on the map. Map looks good just needs to be right or not have it at all. And if your not going to update it every few days then you need to state what your update schedule is so it doesn't look biased unless you don't care. The map maker is OOG for real life, and stated about 2 weeks ago the updates would be less frequent.
SamuelAdams Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.22 20:27:00 - [138] LOL @ acompton
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.03.22 20:33:00 - [139] Originally by: acompton I am attacking Irkutsk with 20 units.. /rolls dice Triple Six! Oops wrong game Politika by any chance? I've played that game. Delictum 23216 Official forums
boogaboob Caldari BIG Advanced Assault Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.22 21:27:00 - [140] Edited by: boogaboob on 22/03/2007 21:23:34 Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Politika by any chance? I've played that game. Risk, dummy. As for the BoB fanboy posting a few screens up...Your side's mapmaker, Joshua Fouritain (whose name is hard to spell) hasnt posted a new map for over 3 weeks now. His map still shows LV owning teneferis and omist. This is not a flame to Joshua or anything, just saying that the Goon guy is hardly biased because he hasn't updated in a week. And there IS a push marker for BoB attacking KOS. Signatures done by me! Evemail me! Anyone? No? Aww...
Ouroboron Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.23 01:32:00 - [141] Edited by: Ouroboron on 23/03/2007 01:29:33 I'm going to take over updating the map for the time being, although we have some people looking into making the updates automated. Sorry about the delays, but real life and all. Any significant changes need to be made? I'll get *****ing, and try to update once a week. edit: I'll get "going"? We can't even say craaaaacking on this forum? lol Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Chowdown fights with honor.
Admiral Pieg Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.23 01:39:00 - [142] its very pretty but oh so flawed, and if eve players wanted pretty they wouldnt play small white squares on 2d backdrop online. I wish there was some way to get a map with the goon map's graphics and the influence map's accuracy. ______________ Pod from above.

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