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Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:25:00 - [1] R U making isk from inventing or is it just too costly? Or R U doing it anyways but haveing to charge more isk then T2 BPO owner? And so only doing it because you were courious?
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:42:00 - [2] for modules its profitable for ships it seems bugged, i have no idea how they sort it ------ Relaxed corp recruiting
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:46:00 - [3] Originally by: Splagada for modules its profitable for ships it seems bugged, i have no idea how they sort it Do you know how much you can sell something as compared to a T2 BPO owner done item? It seems like it takes millions to invent, do you get many bpo's?
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:51:00 - [4] I only ask because I so would like to see this idea actualy work.
Kur'Dekaija Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Magnum III R U making isk from inventing or is it just too costly? Or R U doing it anyways but haveing to charge more isk then T2 BPO owner? And so only doing it because you were courious? On contract system I found a 40 run 1400mm t2 bpc, it was invention cuz it had -7 ME or something similar. I bought it for 200 mill + mineral cost, ended getting around 500 mill for all 40 guns. So technically I made isk from invention :P
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:04:00 - [6] Originally by: Kur'Dekaija Originally by: Magnum III R U making isk from inventing or is it just too costly? Or R U doing it anyways but haveing to charge more isk then T2 BPO owner? And so only doing it because you were courious? On contract system I found a 40 run 1400mm t2 bpc, it was invention cuz it had -7 ME or something similar. I bought it for 200 mill + mineral cost, ended getting around 500 mill for all 40 guns. So technically I made isk from invention :P Hmm, well that is good news and I would guess it cost the inventor about 40 mil? But I would like them to get it right for all inventionable items and specialy ships. I hope.
Nero Scuro Caldari Jejaikaro Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:17:00 - [7] R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? ahem Anyway, invention is profitable, but only on the more expensive ships/modules. And by expensive I mean horrendously overpriced. ___ Nice one CCP
Kumu Honua	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:27:00 - [8] I'm selling an Alpha(bet) Interface. It will invent the letters "A" and "E" and "Y" and "O". Make loads of profit selling them to players who don't have them anymore!
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Kur'Dekaija Originally by: Magnum III R U making isk from inventing or is it just too costly? Or R U doing it anyways but haveing to charge more isk then T2 BPO owner? And so only doing it because you were courious? On contract system I found a 40 run 1400mm t2 bpc, it was invention cuz it had -7 ME or something similar. I bought it for 200 mill + mineral cost, ended getting around 500 mill for all 40 guns. So technically I made isk from invention :P Must have been before they changed it because now you can't get more than 14-19 runs I think. It's profitable for a selected few modules only, and that will also change once enough people try to sell stuff from invented BPCs. Maybe when people stop buying datacores at these horrendous rates - but then again people will probably stop buying datacores for R&P and just hope for a BPO :/ Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Sorela Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:07:00 - [10] The reason it's profitable for a few items at a time only is because of market pricing. Say someone can make a billion off inventing item X. The people with the datacores for inventing item X are going to say "hey that guy is making a billion with our datacores let's get a piece of the pie". This causes the datacore prices to go up which makes the profit on other invention items go down. There are not enough datacores on the market to cause the high profit items to drop in price though so the situation is not resolved properly. When they remove the locks on how many datacores people can buy and fix the spawn rates like they plan to it'll start working much better.
St Dragon Galactic Haulers and Miners	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Kumu Honua I'm selling an Alpha(bet) Interface. It will invent the letters "A" and "E" and "Y" and "O". Make loads of profit selling them to players who don't have them anymore! OH god i loved this ----------------------------------------------- "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Celeste Coeval	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Nero Scuro R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? ahem Anyway, invention is profitable, but only on the more expensive ships/modules. And by expensive I mean horrendously overpriced. Excuse me I am dyslexic and I find your statement offensive. If he wants to type that way let him and stfu. "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
mematar Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Kumu Honua I'm selling an Alpha(bet) Interface. It will invent the letters "A" and "E" and "Y" and "O". Make loads of profit selling them to players who don't have them anymore!
Ingols	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:39:00 - [14] Yea, i'm making a ton off of invention. I'm selling datacores. But if you have to go out and buy datacores for your invention projects, you aren't going to make much isk. Get your own research agents and work up faction and standings. Then get the datacores from them.
MrDisposable Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.03.04 17:14:00 - [15] Edited by: MrDisposable on 04/03/2007 17:12:37 Originally by: Nero Scuro R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? Nice sig, "Flaming - because people are stupid" So doesn't that mean you're a noob? ______________ BoB Alts "This isn't about Dev misconduct.... ban the Ctrl+q'rs! They are the real problem behind it ALL!!!!!" "Devs stole BPOs for the good of eve."
Erim Solfara Amarr Tarlos INC	Posted - 2007.03.04 17:57:00 - [16] Edited by: Erim Solfara on 04/03/2007 17:54:53 Originally by: Celeste Coeval Originally by: Nero Scuro R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? ahem Anyway, invention is profitable, but only on the more expensive ships/modules. And by expensive I mean horrendously overpriced. Excuse me I am dyslexic and I find your statement offensive. If he wants to type that way let him and stfu. Cry more It's not an insutlt to dyslexic people, you shouldn't find it offensive. Failing that, be offended, get over it, move on. May I also point out that if the guy had spent another few fractions of a second typing the full words none of that would ever have been said. New ship class
Angry Sheep Amarr Aur0ra	Posted - 2007.03.04 18:17:00 - [17] I'm dyslexic (why I mainly keep of the forums) and I found it hillarious It's a Dog eat Dog World out there and I'm wearing Milky Bone underwear
Celeste Coeval	Posted - 2007.03.04 18:36:00 - [18] Flamed for actually being offended due to a RL condition, I've heard it all now. I wonder if you'd be as inpolite to an individual if you had to look them in the eye. "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:21:00 - [19] Edited by: Andrue on 04/03/2007 19:20:25 Edited by: Andrue on 04/03/2007 19:17:39 Edited by: Andrue on 04/03/2007 19:17:22 Originally by: Celeste Coeval Flamed for actually being offended due to a RL condition, I've heard it all now. I wonder if you'd be as inpolite to an individual if you had to look them in the eye. If you think that's a flame you need to read the forums a bit more. He's just poking fun at you for being overly sensitive. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] Please don't read this signature.
Spix 'UK	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:29:00 - [20] Originally by: Angry Sheep I'm dyslexic (why I mainly keep of the forums) and I found it hillarious hence the missing ( F )
Barbarellas Daughter	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:12:00 - [21] y r u caring about it? i type here with one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the beer, lying in my bed. its simply shorter, im bonelazy!
Barbarellas Daughter	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:12:00 - [22] y r u caring about it? i type here with one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the beer, lying in my bed. its simply shorter, im bonelazy!
Barbarellas Daughter	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:12:00 - [23] y r u caring about it? i type here with one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the beer, lying in my bed. its simply shorter, im bonelazy!
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:22:00 - [24] Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter y r u caring about it? i type here with one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the beer, lying in my bed. its simply shorter, im bonelazy! By all means keep doing it, makes it much easier to see who to take seriously and whose posts to skip...
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:22:00 - [25] Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter y r u caring about it? i type here with one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the beer, lying in my bed. its simply shorter, im bonelazy! By all means keep doing it, makes it much easier to see who to take seriously and whose posts to skip...
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:22:00 - [26] Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter y r u caring about it? i type here with one hand on the keyboard, one hand on the beer, lying in my bed. its simply shorter, im bonelazy! By all means keep doing it, makes it much easier to see who to take seriously and whose posts to skip...
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:43:00 - [27] I think it is quite funny. People are too lazy to type properly and showing so quite a lot of disrespect. But on the other hand they want other people to help them with something, they want answers. How can they expect anyone to take their time to type in a thoughtful answer when they themselves are so lazy and disrespectful? Very strange. Anyway, the answer to the OP is: yes. With invention you can make good money. You just need to know what you should invent. Not everything is profitable.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:43:00 - [28] I think it is quite funny. People are too lazy to type properly and showing so quite a lot of disrespect. But on the other hand they want other people to help them with something, they want answers. How can they expect anyone to take their time to type in a thoughtful answer when they themselves are so lazy and disrespectful? Very strange. Anyway, the answer to the OP is: yes. With invention you can make good money. You just need to know what you should invent. Not everything is profitable.
Fergus Runkle	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:44:00 - [29] Has anyone had any success trying to invent a Covert Ops cloak at all ? I've had one failed attempt before I started to see people say "its not possible". So before I throw more isk at another attempt I thought I'd ask.
Fergus Runkle	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:44:00 - [30] Has anyone had any success trying to invent a Covert Ops cloak at all ? I've had one failed attempt before I started to see people say "its not possible". So before I throw more isk at another attempt I thought I'd ask.
AK Shaman	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:49:00 - [31] Edited by: AK Shaman on 04/03/2007 20:48:23 Originally by: Fergus Runkle Has anyone had any success trying to invent a Covert Ops cloak at all ? I've had one failed attempt before I started to see people say "its not possible". So before I throw more isk at another attempt I thought I'd ask. I had 3 fall and 2 sucess in Cov Ops. ATM Invention is pretty useless, just fun game for reach man. T2 BPO is ISK printing machines, Invention big money sink. Low BPC run, low material supply and high chance to fall ...
AK Shaman	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:49:00 - [32] Edited by: AK Shaman on 04/03/2007 20:48:23 Originally by: Fergus Runkle Has anyone had any success trying to invent a Covert Ops cloak at all ? I've had one failed attempt before I started to see people say "its not possible". So before I throw more isk at another attempt I thought I'd ask. I had 3 fall and 2 sucess in Cov Ops. ATM Invention is pretty useless, just fun game for reach man. T2 BPO is ISK printing machines, Invention big money sink. Low BPC run, low material supply and high chance to fall ...
teeze	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Nero Scuro R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? quote] ^^^^ can a forum mod please delete this crud. I also am dyslexic and do find it offensive.
teeze	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:57:00 - [34] Originally by: Nero Scuro R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? quote] ^^^^ can a forum mod please delete this crud. I also am dyslexic and do find it offensive.
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:01:00 - [35] Edited by: Soporo on 04/03/2007 20:58:18 Quote: R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? Bahahahha Having a bad day? Might be a non native English speaker, ever thought of that?
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:01:00 - [36] Edited by: Soporo on 04/03/2007 20:58:18 Quote: R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? Bahahahha Having a bad day? Might be a non native English speaker, ever thought of that?
Sykosys Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:10:00 - [37] Originally by: Tharrn Originally by: Kur'Dekaija Originally by: Magnum III R U making isk from inventing or is it just too costly? Or R U doing it anyways but haveing to charge more isk then T2 BPO owner? And so only doing it because you were courious? On contract system I found a 40 run 1400mm t2 bpc, it was invention cuz it had -7 ME or something similar. I bought it for 200 mill + mineral cost, ended getting around 500 mill for all 40 guns. So technically I made isk from invention :P Must have been before they changed it because now you can't get more than 14-19 runs I think. It's profitable for a selected few modules only, and that will also change once enough people try to sell stuff from invented BPCs. Maybe when people stop buying datacores at these horrendous rates - but then again people will probably stop buying datacores for R&P and just hope for a BPO :/ I read in a dev blog about lottery going bye bye actually . . . Its here http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=431 Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:16:00 - [38] Originally by: Nero Scuro R U dyslexic or something? Or maybe U don't have any hands and are forced to type using only your face? ahem Anyway, invention is profitable, but only on the more expensive ships/modules. And by expensive I mean horrendously overpriced. Just did the R U for the heck of it. :) And so I guess this is another thing CCP put in the game that only the top 10% or less can actualy do. But at least they will buy my salvage. I just hope it is always worth something to salvage and does not go down to not worth it. But then since it costs so much to invent we do not get to do that?
Stradivarious Minmatar Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:20:00 - [39] Been playing with invention for awhile now, made quite a bit of money, mostly from selling interface components and completed interfaces. The actual invention portion I have been less successful at :P Mainly due to having to buy my datacores, which is in the process of being fixed(available alt with RPM and no agents :) ) This has sucked up the majority of what I managed to make gathering from exploration sites. TBH if people want cheaper tech 2 mods, and especially, tech 2 rigs, stop charging so much for datacores and components, or sell to the buy orders, not every buy order is a rip off, I usually try to pay a decent price. :) Everytime I go to sell cap console 2s, and my asking price is 400 mil, they do a double take and start saying no more then 100ish. Well when it costs 300 mil to buy the damn components, theres no way in hell I'm going to sell it for less then build cost, and if you knew how much in datacores and time/work is invested in just one of those modules, you might understand the 100 mil I ask in profit... Would I sell for less, maybe, if someone asked me nicely, but I'm still going to get some reward for all the work I put in :P Example = datacores for CCC 2's, roughly 150-180 mil per invention run total. Atm it seems to be about 1 in 3 succeeds, with lvl 4 skills. So we're talking 450 mil in expenses before you even start buying module components, another 300 mil per module in T2 rig components and a decent amount of time hunting them down as they are fairly rare(increase the drop rate pretty please ccp?). Last run I did, produced a 9 run bpc, with a 300 run bpc put into it... so thats 3.15 bil in expenses before I can make anything back. Selling at 400 mil nets me 3.6 bil back... For about 4-5 days work(not including waiting for buy orders to get me components) gets less then 500 mil back... 500 mil sounds like a lot, for 4-5 days work it isn't... I can make more npcing in 0.0 :/ Haven't played with ships yet, waiting to see if it worth the effort first... Sure, bring a knife to a gunfight.
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:22:00 - [40] Edited by: Magnum III on 04/03/2007 21:27:53 We all need to stop feeding this loop and Stop buying things like Data cores for such high prices and then we would see more data cores from CCP, like it should be, a lot more I would hope. When there is a lot of something you can sell alot and make same money but then we ALL can enjoy inventing and we can all actualy buy the stuff. What is the point of putting something in the game when only 1% can play with the new items?
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:22:00 - [41] Edited by: Magnum III on 04/03/2007 21:27:53 We all need to stop feeding this loop and Stop buying things like Data cores for such high prices and then we would see more data cores from CCP, like it should be, a lot more I would hope. When there is a lot of something you can sell alot and make same money but then we ALL can enjoy inventing and we can all actualy buy the stuff. What is the point of putting something in the game when only 1% can play with the new items?
Ockk	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:28:00 - [42] gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it.
Ockk	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:28:00 - [43] gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it.
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:33:00 - [44] Originally by: Ockk gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it. Exactly, good example, & we are not doing it right by paying too much. We need to get together on this. :)
airmessy79	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:33:00 - [45] Quote: gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it. OMG please stop i am crying laughing here.
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:33:00 - [46] Originally by: Ockk gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it. Exactly, good example, & we are not doing it right by paying too much. We need to get together on this. :)
airmessy79	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:33:00 - [47] Quote: gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it. OMG please stop i am crying laughing here.
borg01	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:34:00 - [48] Originally by: Ockk gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it. LMAO, and that was typed with your nose I assume...or some other part of your anatomy?
borg01	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:34:00 - [49] Originally by: Ockk gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it. LMAO, and that was typed with your nose I assume...or some other part of your anatomy?
Mortisya	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:26:00 - [50] Originally by: Magnum III Edited by: Magnum III on 04/03/2007 21:27:53 We all need to stop feeding this loop and Stop buying things like Data cores for such high prices and then we would see more data cores from CCP, like it should be, a lot more I would hope. Why ? i have spent a lot of time learning science skills and increasing my standings with the right npc corporations , i want my reward honestly selling my datacores to other players .
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:09:00 - [51] Originally by: Ockk gnrlly i prft frm nvntn by killing buzzards n hi sec wth an alt nrby 2 scp l00t. u r nt dng it r8 if ur paying 4 it. I have never laughed harder than right now at a post on the EVE-O forums. PS: Relax, datacore prices will tank when the lottery is over.
Karunel Princeps Corp YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:08:00 - [52] Originally by: Kumu Honua I'm selling an Alpha(bet) Interface. It will invent the letters "A" and "E" and "Y" and "O". Make loads of profit selling them to players who don't have them anymore! I lol'ed! Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Nikla Uthaan Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:27:00 - [53] If someone wants to donate me 2 billion isk for one attempt at inventing a raven bpc, i'll give it a try :) Want to know what you get for inventing a raven bpc,,,, faction raven? ----------------- snip Part of your signature was inappropriate- Tirg The Mishing is an ethnic group in the districts of North Lakhimpur, Sonitput, Dhemaji, Dibrugarh, Sibsagar, Jorhat, Golaghat, Tinsukia of Assam.

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