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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.06.28 19:20:56 -
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Every time I dock or undock now, it's annoying as **** the way the camera spins around my ship and stuff. Maybe i'll get used to it, and yes im aware i can interrupt it any time but it's still annoying to have to do that.
Don't like my post.
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Sulfurblade
Evil Pink Bunnies
12
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Posted - 2016.06.28 19:26:42 -
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Yes the majority of the playerbase despises this new feature! |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
160
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Posted - 2016.06.28 19:31:58 -
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Sulfurblade wrote:Yes the majority of the playerbase despises this new feature!
Riiight.
I'm East coast, and it's not even 4pm yet.
Give the US a chance to try it out first. Sheesh.
--Gadget, waiting for 5.
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
797
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Posted - 2016.06.28 19:42:10 -
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Its cinematic and purdy but useless. Just click in space as you undock and it resets. Too bad the camera direction resets to a random direction and only the camera range persists. But hey!! Cant have it all can we...
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
236
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Posted - 2016.06.28 20:33:24 -
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like most cosmetic changes in EVE, we will forget about it completely in two days |
Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
397
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Posted - 2016.06.28 20:43:01 -
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Sulfurblade wrote:Yes the majority of the playerbase despises this new feature!
Drat, I missed that poll... can you link the results?
It's just filler friend... just filler, let it go!
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Regan Rotineque
The Scope Gallente Federation
399
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Posted - 2016.06.28 21:21:11 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:like most cosmetic changes in EVE, we will forget about it completely in two days
really?
One word for you
GONG
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Kalpel
KBM
107
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Posted - 2016.06.28 21:34:54 -
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It's extremely annoying and I dislike both docking and undocking now! this wasn't needed at all
First off the ship now faces the back of the station dock, so you don't have a view of the passing ships at the entrance unless you spin the camera around each time you dock or change ships , and that's another thing I dislike with each ship change you get to dock all over again! wtf???
Second, undocking isn't as bad, but you do have to make an extra mouse click to stop the camera from panning out which I have to do each and every time I undock now
CCP, camera views like this should be optional always! right along with an option to remove the damn billboards!
Remember CCP when you removed spinning in stations and the drama that caused? well this is real close to that! So I do believe an optional check box is in order here, before things get crazy again!
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Tara'Quoya Rax
Atlantis Asteria
10
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Posted - 2016.06.28 21:53:32 -
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Annoying? The fact that it crashes my video driver every time... game breaking! |
Draconas109
The Society of Mutual Respect Care Factor
15
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Posted - 2016.06.28 21:54:21 -
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Please make these stupid animations optional, I got sick of it after 5 minutes on the test server BEFORE it was released. |
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
519
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Posted - 2016.06.28 22:35:26 -
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While trying it on SISI it gave me motion sickness. So I set my asset inventory window which pops up automatically to cover most of my screen. My pinned and transparent chat and fleet windows would still showed some of the motion which was a problem, just not as much of a problem. I didn't think about using the captain's quarters, which is what I'll try next. That doesn't work for citadels however, but at least I don't spend as much time docking in citadels as I do in stations. For the moment.
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Nid
Subject to Change
5
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Posted - 2016.06.28 22:38:13 -
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Well, 10,000 SP daily to make people undock didn't work well.
So this docking animation was created so people never to docked again, ever. |
Fyt 284
The Stone Cutters Guild Requiem Eternal
34
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Posted - 2016.06.28 22:41:39 -
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~~GONG!~~
Seriously, its the same level of bullshit, if not a bit higher since we can't turn it off :/ |
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
365
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Posted - 2016.06.28 22:43:35 -
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I kind of like it. Gives a kind of "in the movie" feel to an otherwise boring cut scene.
KB
Dum Spiro Spero
Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid.
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Memnon Shepard
Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops
36
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Posted - 2016.06.28 22:47:05 -
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Not loving it, especially having to go through the entire animation each time a ship is changed once I'm already docked. It seems like an easy enough thing to make optional, so it's not clear to me why it's been made mandatory.
At this point I feel almost conditioned to be afraid of new features. I'm bracing for the inevitable "Undocking from everything but a Citadel costs 1M ISK because we worked really hard on them and nobody is using them" feature. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
310
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:23:24 -
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Memnon Shepard wrote:Not loving it, especially having to go through the entire animation each time a ship is changed once I'm already docked. It seems like an easy enough thing to make optional, so it's not clear to me why it's been made mandatory.
At this point I feel almost conditioned to be afraid of new features. I'm bracing for the inevitable "Undocking from everything but a Citadel costs 1M ISK because we worked really hard on them and nobody is using them" feature.
Don't give them ideas.... |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
310
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:26:53 -
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What I'm seeing in terms of objections includes physical problems such as nausea from the camera motion and delays in gameplay. In my case, when docking, I don't seem to be able to skip past it by clicking the mouse, and it won't allow other windows to be activated until the animation is finished. So quickly docking, changing a fit and undocking has been severely hampered.
The 118.6 Feedback and Issues threads go over a lot of complaints. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8206
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:29:50 -
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FWIW, the last time there was a big thread here where players requested that the jump animation have the ability to be disabled, CCP's stance was that giving us an option was a "cop out".
It was also suggested that anyone experiencing nausea should look away.
Given all the problems introduced with the last couple of patches, don't hold your breath expecting an option for this soon, if ever.
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Mesacc
New Big Dog Mining
21
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:33:27 -
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I'm more annoyed with the fact that they are wasting time on things like this while the new camera is still lacking custom tracking position. |
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
310
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:35:50 -
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Doc Fury wrote:FWIW, the last time there was a big thread here where players requested that the jump animation have the ability to be disabled, CCP's stance was that giving us an option was a "cop out".
It was also suggested that anyone experiencing nausea should look away.
Given all the problems introduced with the last couple of patches, don't hold your breath expecting an option for this soon, if ever.
Yep, it's amazing that they even ask for test feedback on it when they seem to ignore it anyway.
CCP Test: "Try out this new feature!"
Players: "We hate this new thing with a passion! It makes us dizzy!!"
CCP Boss: "So how did the test go? My new features are a hit, right?"
CCP Test: "Uhh, yeah! The players are passionate about it and dizzy with excitement!" |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2133
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:38:52 -
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Tara'Quoya Rax wrote:Annoying? The fact that it crashes my video driver every time... game breaking! First, check that you're running the latest drivers for your video card. Once you've done this, please submit a bug report by clicking "Report Bug" from the F12 menu so that we can look into it.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
311
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Posted - 2016.06.28 23:41:03 -
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Since the Devs are watching, I will say that I do like having more overview tabs. That new item WILL be used. |
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
332
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Posted - 2016.06.29 00:15:10 -
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You know, they said all this about Picasso. (Especially the "check your video drivers" bit!)
I've always found the camera angle to be inconsistent, and am always ready to rotate my view just to be able to click on the bookmarks there on my right-click, onscreen menu. So, maybe I should just let it run as it wants to and see what this is all about! (You're supposed to be using quick exit bookmarks, btw.)
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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John Volan
Volan Enterprises
10
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Posted - 2016.06.29 00:26:52 -
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I like it. |
Valkin Mordirc
2139
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Posted - 2016.06.29 00:28:54 -
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I honestly wouldn't mind it, but there are a few major problems which for me personally ruin it.
The first one is the FOV when docking is WAAAAY to close to the ship. I find myself in vain trying to get the camera to back away from the ship. It's uncomfortable to watch, if the FOV was scaled back, and we are given an option to control the how close the camera is, would be really nice.
Second is that it happens every time I change ships, which again is pretty annoying. Even by it's namesake as a docking animation, I shouldn't really have to see the ship slow meander slowly in some arbitrary spot in a station. Specially if I need to fit multiple ships, or tweak ships, or if decide to be super picky and I can't choose between what ship I want to fly. (More of a personal problem but really.)
On a positive note, the Tac-Overlay is really becoming something, and the changes there are pretty fookin swell.
#DeleteTheWeak
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2133
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Posted - 2016.06.29 00:39:44 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:I honestly wouldn't mind it, but there are a few major problems which for me personally ruin it. Comments that express specifically what you like and what could be better are exactly the kind of feedback the camera team needs on this feature. I recommend posting in the release feedback thread so they'll have the best chance to see it.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
332
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Posted - 2016.06.29 00:43:05 -
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Okay, fine. I took the time out of my busy day to undock and allow my ship to free run out of the station to see this camera rotation debacle and my response is, come on, really? You want to complain about this? The eye-candy crowd is becoming a nuisance at this point; monocles, yellow skirts, bullet holes in the hull, SKINS (for gawd's sake) now the CAMERA just rotates WRONG? Lawzy lawzy. What would you do if you had a real problem?
What is telling is, anyone who's got half a brain uses quick exit bookmarks to leave stations they use a lot. If you're clicking on the screen immediately and dragging to a view clear of the station to get a clear spot to click on (bringing up that good old right-click menu with your bookmarks) the rotation stops IMMEDIATELY and is no obstruction, or interference with proper operation of the ship.
If you're NOT using quick exit BMs to leave station, one of these days you're gonna be sitting in your pod wondering, "How did THAT happen so fast?" Stop living on borrowed time and get smart with how you fly. If you did, you'd never see a camera rotation to become annoyed with.
Telling complaint after all, no?
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1756
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Posted - 2016.06.29 03:02:25 -
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Needs music |
Chewytowel Haklar
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
213
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Posted - 2016.06.29 04:20:24 -
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Having been a part of the whole Saranen battle zone in recent memory I don't think that the docking animation is realistic. If it were realistic that ship would be going a LOT faster than that, possibly on fire while shedding pieces of itself, and likely almost slamming against a wall before stopping. But nope it just calming walks in like it just got back from a picnic on a nice sunny day. |
Galaxxis
Unicorn Rampage
151
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Posted - 2016.06.29 05:12:51 -
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I hate it!! |
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1743
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Posted - 2016.06.29 05:28:45 -
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Nice, more unwanted FLUFF!
2-3 years ago a CCP developer spent time on making a docking animation. It was never implemented as "it didn't added anything worthwhile to the gameplay".
Look what we got now. Didn't asked for it. It's overly intrusive. It's repeated EVERY SINGLE FRIGGING TIME I CHANGE MY SHIP!
When I'm docked I do not need to see another animation of an docking ship/pod when I change ships.
CCP if you really MUST have a dumb fluff animation that adds nothing to the CORE game play, then please consider this:
==>IF Docking: ( Play animation: Docking);
==> IF Docked: (Do Not Play animation: Docking);
And of course, when the animation ends it lands your camera view dab smack in the middle of the annoying adverts. You really do your utmost best to get us annoyed and subsequently stop logging in do you? |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1744
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Posted - 2016.06.29 05:57:47 -
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And on top of that you delivered it as per usual with the standard CCP quality, rushed out, no quality control or anything close to that. When an indy company does this I smile and forgive, when a multimillion dollar company with over a decade of experience does this I just can describe this as pathetic.
*Excellence*
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2604
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Posted - 2016.06.29 06:14:34 -
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The new docking animation makes me nauseous. Literally, not figuratively. I actually cannot look at the screen while I switch ships or I start to get queasy.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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Enzaki
Mining And missions Inc
20
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Posted - 2016.06.29 06:21:10 -
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The new docking animation is so bad plz remove it |
Kremlath
Cayman Finance
0
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Posted - 2016.06.29 06:45:13 -
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Please remove it or add an option to disable, it literally makes me feel sick. |
Trader20
Hedion University Amarr Empire
116
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Posted - 2016.06.29 06:54:42 -
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I don't know if this was intended but at the end of the docking cinematic the camera slowly focuses on the station billboard (which I hate). If you don't rotate the camera the station billboard is right in your face. I say remove both docking cinematic and station billboard.
Or give us the option to turn it off. (cinematic docking and billboards) |
Galaxxis
Unicorn Rampage
152
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Posted - 2016.06.29 06:55:18 -
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Enzaki wrote:The new docking animation is so bad plz remove it
and it take 3 times longer to undock now :(
Docking, changing your ship and undocking again seems to be as fast as it was before, since you can do all of that during the docking animations. But the visual effect is still REALLY distracting. This is like the gong all over again. |
Das bombski
Skullwing productions
0
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Posted - 2016.06.29 07:00:01 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:I honestly wouldn't mind it, but there are a few major problems which for me personally ruin it. Comments that express specifically what you like and what could be better are exactly the kind of feedback the camera team needs on this feature. I recommend posting in the release feedback thread so they'll have the best chance to see it.
Your "camera team" needs to be fired on spot. Shoddy work at best. Not gona list over and over the reasons, forums are full of salt for it.. read it goddamnit! |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
13061
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Posted - 2016.06.29 07:15:48 -
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It really brings attention to the ship and surroundings. That is why you are distracted.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4456
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Posted - 2016.06.29 08:39:06 -
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ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:Every time I dock or undock now, it's annoying as **** the way the camera spins around my ship and stuff. Maybe i'll get used to it, and yes im aware i can interrupt it any time but it's still annoying to have to do that. How can you interrupt it?
Make space glamorous!
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Flag Zulu
Gut Zeit Goo Diebe
6
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Posted - 2016.06.29 08:49:35 -
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This latest effort on the part of CCP makes me think CCP can step straight into acting as a double for the Australian Federal Government, or any State Government for that matter coming into an election.
Waste a lot of time and money and programming resources producing fancy bling rubbish that no one actually wants and do absolutely nothing about fixing or finishing the things that are broken or unfinished. Those items clearly exist in a safe seat no one is interested in contesting.
Numbers on the server may jump very temporary after a patch, or when a good war occurs, but overall, I still see the average numbers in the game decreasing every month, and most of those I know that have left did so because they were sick of seeing the unnecessary bling instead of stuff getting fixed. |
Sergey Hawk
The Sith Syndicate REFORD
45
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Posted - 2016.06.29 09:15:32 -
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I agree. For 4 months CCP waste our money for DONGs, Flash kill confirmation, ads in hangar, cool cinematic camera features. They simply forget who pays their salary and have lost respect for their customers.
Lauda about CCP New camera:
It's a sh.tbox! It zooms like crazy and centering before rotation is a disaster. It's amazing - all these dev teams, and you make a piece of crap like this.
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Industrialist Born
Cooperativa
0
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Posted - 2016.06.29 09:24:09 -
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Please add a button to disable the docking animation, it makes me sick. |
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
490
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Posted - 2016.06.29 09:53:39 -
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CCP when your customers say your "fixing" of the undock/dock camera sucks,
you should take it on face value the customer is always right, else you lose $
Regards, a Freelancer
ps: would it not be better to spend your scarce Company resources on features we actually want
Eve online is :
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Gorr Kedesh
Icing Iced
14
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Posted - 2016.06.29 10:15:27 -
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First impression after Login: WTH whats broken now?!
If i want cinematic stuff, i log off an go to the next cinema!
Absolute no needed and a waste of my local ressources (lifetime and graphiccard) |
Nairobi al-Kashmir
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2016.06.29 10:35:00 -
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I like the docking and especially the undocking camera a lot.
I wished for something like this for a long time, and I think you could even have gone a bit further with this.
The undocking "cinematic" is nice because it gives an even nicer impression about the size of the ship and station. Well done!
Please do not just remove this feature because a vocal minority is demanding so. There surely are people who do enjoy this feature but they're just no forum-dwellers, nor are they very vocal.
Instead just consider to make this docking / undocking feature optional. This way those who like it can keep it, and those who don't can disable it. |
Trevize Demerzel
10
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Posted - 2016.06.29 10:57:18 -
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Ahh.. I get it.
This is what the IGB team is doing now.
Could we perhaps .... maybe... get some focus on content rather then stuff like this? While I'll chime in and say I kinda like the dock/undock animation, it is already become tiring after just 1 night of game play. It's like the opening cinematic intro to Eve, once you've seen it... you've seen it. I don't need to see it over and over again.
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Sulfurblade
Evil Pink Bunnies
34
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Posted - 2016.06.29 11:09:00 -
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Nairobi al-Kashmir wrote:I like the docking and especially the undocking camera a lot.
Please do not just remove this feature because a vocal minority is demanding so. There surely are people who do enjoy this feature but they're just no forum-dwellers, nor are they very vocal.
Vocal Minority???
Your literally the first person I have heard say anything remotely positive about this in help chat today there was a very common theme people who never enter the channel asking the same two questions!
1) How do I remove the new docking annimation... The question was asked more times then there are Sub's in the Eve Universe!
2) What happened to the 10,000 SP feature where did it go why did they take it away?!?
I really think your very out of touch with the majority on this particular issue!!! |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1366
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Posted - 2016.06.29 11:13:40 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:I honestly wouldn't mind it, but there are a few major problems which for me personally ruin it. Comments that express specifically what you like and what could be better are exactly the kind of feedback the camera team needs on this feature. I recommend posting in the release feedback thread so they'll have the best chance to see it. You might want to consider listening to the feedback you've actually got, rather than the feedback you wish you had.
That might help you go back to the old way of making a game that appeals to your actual customers, not to the customers you wish you had. |
Revis Owen
The Conference Elite CODE.
383
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Posted - 2016.06.29 12:07:06 -
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Trevize Demerzel wrote:Could we perhaps .... maybe... get some focus on content rather then stuff like this?
And since content in this game is made by the players, you mean the focus should be on removing the barriers to that built up over time, of course.
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Julanna Egnald
Del's Industrial Strip Mining
17
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Posted - 2016.06.29 12:13:24 -
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I wish I had some cheese to go along with all the whine in this thread. I will bite that the animation appearing every time you change ships is annoying, but it's not as if you have to wait for it to finish before doing anything. You can access everything in station before docking finishes, and you can warp away instantly as well. I haven't even seen any new undock animation, and I just went through the SoE arc yesterday, so I undocked several times.
And that saying about the customer being right is bogus. I work in customer service, and most of the time, they are selfish, greedy people that are either too dumb to know what they are talking about, or they're trying ro takke advantage of the system. |
Charley Varrick
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2016.06.29 12:27:46 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:Comments that express specifically what you like and what could be better are exactly the kind of feedback the camera team needs on this feature. I recommend posting in the release feedback thread so they'll have the best chance to see it.
Maybe you could tell the "camera team" to take a look at all the previous threads full of camera feed back on things like custom tracking position, uneven up/down vs left right camera scrolling and zoom acceleration issues. The feedback is spread out over multiple threads, hundreds of pages that have been ignored. Their own feedback threads are obviously not giving them the "best chance to see it". |
Trader20
Hedion University Amarr Empire
120
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Posted - 2016.06.29 12:49:17 -
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Wait a minute I got it, this is a push to make people dock into their captain's quarters...nice subtle suggestion CCP.
I for one will be docking into my captain's quarters from now on. WiS expansion (hopefully) confirmed? |
Bawdee
The Knights Templars System Wide Adaptive Roam Massacres
1
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Posted - 2016.06.29 12:51:31 -
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the new camera is pretty terrible i must admit the sudden erge to add in the ship moveing into the dock is annoying then undocking zoomed in then bam zoom out,
CCP we are not YO YO's |
han polo's
penguins are your nefarious end Affirmative.
2
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Posted - 2016.06.29 12:54:14 -
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please let me turn it off. its making me want to hurl. |
Captain Grantkarppe
We Are Pakleds
55
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Posted - 2016.06.29 13:07:35 -
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I also don't like the change.
However, even more annoying for me personally is this new camera pan they have on the ship model viewer. Apparently whenever you want to view a ship's 3d model, when you first open the viewer it does a cinematic pan in which your camera is locked for around 2 seconds. Annoying as hell. |
Stralisemiai
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.06.29 13:23:43 -
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I like the animations, open the door so I can have a pint in the space bar next, thanks |
Revis Owen
The Conference Elite CODE.
383
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Posted - 2016.06.29 13:38:54 -
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Stralisemiai wrote:I like the animations, open the door so I can have a pint in the space bar next, thanks
As long as I can take your beer away or smash the bar because you don't have your Code permits, I may acquiesce to WiS.
No reward without risk, and no activity that can't be non-consensually touched by others!
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Tewilligar
Operational Urban Zion Order O.U.Z.O. Alliance
3
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Posted - 2016.06.29 13:48:51 -
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Dear CCP,
Can you please implement a Gym in station, that way when I get pissed off with the ever-flowing charade of unneeded changes, I can go in there and workout on the punch-bag and forget all about playing EVE.
Please stop making rediculous changes to the game, especially with so much broken atm.
Restore the dock/undock/ship change asap please.
Thank you. |
Princess Adhara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2016.06.29 13:52:00 -
[60] - Quote
This feature doesn't really add any value to the game, but it adds a lot of delay.
Make docking/undocking from stations more like it used to be from citadels: crisp and fast.
1/10. |
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Kaivarian Coste
Beyond Imports and Exports
2
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Posted - 2016.06.29 13:58:06 -
[61] - Quote
I got nauseous when my ship undocked. I don't if it's the way the camera pans out and follows your ship, but it didn't feel good. (no troll) |
Shuckstar
Taking Inc
366
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Posted - 2016.06.29 14:22:15 -
[62] - Quote
It's not just annoying it's ******* terrible...
CCP Greyscale wrote:"OK, I've read every post up to page 200, and we're getting to a point in this thread where there's not a lot of new concerns or suggestions being brought up. There will be future threads (and future blogs) as we tune details, but for now I want to thank you for all of your constructive input, and wish you a good weekend :)"
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Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
523
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Posted - 2016.06.29 14:27:16 -
[63] - Quote
I like it. |
Fodan
Phoenix Ashes Inc.
16
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Posted - 2016.06.29 14:38:30 -
[64] - Quote
I like it :P
I think the docking one is better than the undock - I'd like to see my ship move all the way from the hangar to space without any black screen.... |
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
216
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Posted - 2016.06.29 14:39:20 -
[65] - Quote
i have mixed feelings, i actually find the undock effect very cool and i have just been letting it play out regardless.
However
the instation effrect is more problematic. It seems to be somehow immensly intensive in some way. Earlier today i literally sat looking at a black screen for about a minute after docking before it would finally play the in station docking thing. Even at the best of times from the start of that transition where the ship disappears to gaining access to station facilities has increased by at least 20 seconds for me.
It used to just do the "docking request accepted" ship disappears station interior appears and services are available all in a few seconds.
So undock effect i like
in station effect i would prefer to turn off |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2137
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Posted - 2016.06.29 14:43:49 -
[66] - Quote
Aramatheia wrote:Even at the best of times from the start of that transition where the ship disappears to gaining access to station facilities has increased by at least 20 seconds for me.
Can you bug report this by pressing F12 and clicking the Report Bug button?
Please mention in your bug report whether you have "Download everything" checked in your launcher settings when you start the game.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Autumn Equinox
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
4
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Posted - 2016.06.29 15:14:48 -
[67] - Quote
Please can you add a option to remove the new docking and un-docking in the graphics settings.
I personally suffer from motion sickness / vertigo - I have already disabled the camera shake and the new camera tracking etc.
Some people like myself cannot play games like valkyrie / Elite Dangerous / even Fallout V without getting a headache / feeling seasick.
I recognise this may seem like a very small point - but it would make a difference to players who are affected by this, just give us the option to disable it, that's all we ask.
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Sunwell
Jaeger Biotech
3
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Posted - 2016.06.29 15:39:33 -
[68] - Quote
The feature is fine.
I like it. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1370
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Posted - 2016.06.29 15:44:12 -
[69] - Quote
Sunwell wrote:The feature is fine.
I like it. And that is why the people who are impacted negatively by it would like to be able to disable it.
You can still enjoy it.
We were never going to enjoy it, because it's not designed for us, it's designed for you. |
Nairobi al-Kashmir
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2016.06.29 16:32:51 -
[70] - Quote
Sulfurblade wrote:Vocal Minority???
Your literally the first person I have heard say anything remotely positive about this in help chat today there was a very common theme people who never enter the channel asking the same two questions!
1) How do I remove the new docking annimation... The question was asked more times then there are Sub's in the Eve Universe!
2) What happened to the 10,000 SP feature where did it go why did they take it away?!?
I really think your very out of touch with the majority on this particular issue!!!
It is well documented that people who like X are less likely to voice it. It is those who dislike X who are vocal. This gives the wrong perception that a majority dislikes a feature or product (even more so if that vocal minority is of ones own opinion).
A person that loves feature or product X is not going to call the customer-service to tell them how awesome it is. It is those who dislike the feature or the product that voice it.
100 people complaining about feature or product X might be a lot, but it's still a minority in comparison to the entriet of people who use the feature / product.
Your "I've heard many say X or Y therefore it must be true" is a very poor argumentation to make your point, sorry to break it on you.
And besides, with hyperbole like yours (see your quote), you cannot be taken seriously anyway. Especially not if in this very thread are people with a positive or at least neutral opinion on said feature (and yet you claim to never have heard it).
So I guess you have to listen a bit closer (or actually read the comments) and not only register the people who are of the same opinion as you.
Talking about out of touch...
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1963
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Posted - 2016.06.29 16:34:57 -
[71] - Quote
CCP Darwin wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:I honestly wouldn't mind it, but there are a few major problems which for me personally ruin it. Comments that express specifically what you like and what could be better are exactly the kind of feedback the camera team needs on this feature. I recommend posting in the release feedback thread so they'll have the best chance to see it.
Theres an entire camera team? I thought it was a side project for the cleaning lady while ccp staff are down the boozer. |
Buliki
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.06.29 17:07:12 -
[72] - Quote
The goal is not to make you happy.
The goal has been achieved.
And now for something completely different:
The eternal return of the same.
You build to destroy to build again.
Or else we all die.
suddenly, A challenger Appears |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1964
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Posted - 2016.06.29 17:38:42 -
[73] - Quote
Nairobi al-Kashmir wrote:Sulfurblade wrote:Vocal Minority???
Your literally the first person I have heard say anything remotely positive about this in help chat today there was a very common theme people who never enter the channel asking the same two questions!
1) How do I remove the new docking annimation... The question was asked more times then there are Sub's in the Eve Universe!
2) What happened to the 10,000 SP feature where did it go why did they take it away?!?
I really think your very out of touch with the majority on this particular issue!!! It is well documented that people who like X are less likely to voice it. It is those who dislike X who are vocal. This gives the wrong perception that a majority dislikes a feature or product (even more so if that vocal minority is of ones own opinion). A person that loves feature or product X is not going to call the customer-service to tell them how awesome it is. It is those who dislike the feature or the product that voice it. 100 people complaining about feature or product X might be a lot, but it's still a minority in comparison to the entriet of people who use the feature / product. Your "I've heard many say X or Y therefore it must be true" is a very poor argumentation to make your point, sorry to break it on you. And besides, with hyperbole like yours (see your quote), you cannot be taken seriously anyway. Especially not if in this very thread are people with a positive or at least neutral opinion on said feature (and yet you claim to never have heard it). So I guess you have to listen a bit closer (or actually read the comments) and not only register the people who are of the same opinion as you. Talking about out of touch...
Lets be clear. this is a bit of simple camera panning. No one asked for it. Those that are quiet are not the issue. Even if its a vocal minority who are upset by a feature that no one asked for, that adds nothing to the game, that doesnt even look very good if we remember this is 2016 and compare it to the current state of high end graphics out there. This little bit of camera panning is disorienting to some, to others like me it just looks tacky. I find it hard to imagine that there are many people out there that are blown away by this.
Then there are the practical issues. Does it matter if most people dont care if control of their space submarine is snatched from them after undock for a moment after they provide an input to the camera?
Im not saying this whole new camera is dogshite because most people dont like it. Most people dont play the game like i do. Some dont even undock. Im saying the camera is dogshite because its just dogsnite in almost every way. I have zero regard if others dont care, i would have hoped CCP would want to make something at least as good as when we hard before, rather than adding lots of polish for us all to slip about on.
- Panning up and down requires 2x input compared to panning left and right. - There are too many zoom increments when very close to ship, which flips when zooming further away when increments are very few and far between making it sometimes awkward to find a comfortable zoom level when kiting large gangs and fleets. - This spread of zoom increments on the new camera zoom makes ratchet-less scroll wheels almost uncontrollable for the purposes of zooming for the higher ranges. - Max zoom out is now about 200km on grids that are 10000km wide. Used to be 1000km on grids that were 600km wide. - And now, when undocking and providing the first manual input, the camera is snatched from you and does an arbitrary zoom before yielding control to you even though you are already moments into trying to do so.
It garbage. Its a total mess.
Now, just because high sec bears, null f1 monkeys, station traders, miners and any number of other players dont care to the extent that CCP could take as big a turf on the primary input method for this game and they wouldnt notice. As a player who flies fast ships against larger gangs, and i am not alone, this camera is just worse in nearly every way and makes controlling the game harder. For no good reason. |
Nairobi al-Kashmir
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.06.29 18:05:39 -
[74] - Quote
I did not argue that you (and others) dislike the feature for various reasons. And it is good that you are voicing this in the forums (hopefully in a constructive and respectful way).
I am not opposed to your opinion. Not at all. I even support the idea of an option to toggle off the docking / undocking feature in order to please people like you as well, as your concerns are valid, too.
My reply that you quoted was not to go against the complaints. My post was a reply to the person who made silly argumentations and false accusations. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1965
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Posted - 2016.06.29 18:11:07 -
[75] - Quote
Nairobi al-Kashmir wrote:I did not argue that you (and others) dislike the feature for various reasons. And it is good that you are voicing this in the forums (hopefully in a constructive and respectful way). I am not opposed to your opinion. Not at all. I even support the idea of an option to toggle off the docking / undocking feature in order to please people like you as well, as your concerns are valid, too. My reply that you quoted was not to go against the complaints. My post was a reply to the person who made silly argumentations and false accusations.
So you were looking for some kind of self validation through some armchair forum moderation? Thats very productive. |
cochar Andedare
Exitium ab Umbris Salty.
10
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Posted - 2016.06.29 18:35:44 -
[76] - Quote
It makes me feel ill. Please provide a way to turn it off. |
Buliki
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.06.29 18:49:43 -
[77] - Quote
cochar Andedare wrote:It makes me feel ill. Please provide a way to turn it off.
Working as intended |
Nairobi al-Kashmir
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.06.29 18:53:21 -
[78] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:Nairobi al-Kashmir wrote:I did not argue that you (and others) dislike the feature for various reasons. And it is good that you are voicing this in the forums (hopefully in a constructive and respectful way). I am not opposed to your opinion. Not at all. I even support the idea of an option to toggle off the docking / undocking feature in order to please people like you as well, as your concerns are valid, too. My reply that you quoted was not to go against the complaints. My post was a reply to the person who made silly argumentations and false accusations. So you were looking for some kind of self validation through some armchair forum moderation? Thats very productive.
Not at all. Not sure how you come to that conclusion.
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KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
365
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Posted - 2016.06.29 19:03:32 -
[79] - Quote
What kind of space pirates are we raising that they get a little tummy-ache and dizzy from a chase camera?
KB
Dum Spiro Spero
Not getting SP for not killing a rat is like not getting ore for not mining an asteroid.
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TheTennant
Third Attention
10
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Posted - 2016.06.29 19:04:18 -
[80] - Quote
ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:Every time I dock or undock now, it's annoying as **** the way the camera spins around my ship and stuff. Maybe i'll get used to it, and yes im aware i can interrupt it any time but it's still annoying to have to do that.
You are such an ass hole. This is a game, if you don't like it **** off. |
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
6229
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Posted - 2016.06.29 20:07:56 -
[81] - Quote
ARES-DESIDERATUS wrote:Anyone else find the docking/undocking thing annoying? I keep trying to rotate the camera.
It is pretty, but appears to be a time-waster while waiting for the animation to complete. |
FIX IT
Numbers Inc
12
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Posted - 2016.06.29 20:53:31 -
[82] - Quote
Camera movement that follows the ship and spins just abit when first loging in or redocking is making me phisicaly ill. Never had this in 10 years in eve. For the love of god please add an option to disable this. Posts in this thread make it clear some other players have had similar phisiological reaction. |
Empress Sarum
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.06.29 21:24:16 -
[83] - Quote
Please give us the ability to just disable this "feature". It really adds NOTHING to the game but a useless, distracting, and often nauseating visual.
How do things like "every time I change ships" it plays a "ship docking" animation, and "every time i LOGIN (when i was already docked) it plays a "ship docking" animation pass any form of QA? or rather, common sense?
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Buliki
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.06.29 22:59:07 -
[84] - Quote
Quote:is making me phisicaly ill
Quote:It makes me feel ill. Please provide a way to turn it off.
Do you really believe NOBODY at EVE knows about that ?...
It's like that ******* P.I. window that keep closing....
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY, THEY MAKE IT THIS WAY.
Speak with your money you ******* idiots. DONT BUY INTO THE SPECIAL DEALS.
THEY COULD MAKE MINIMUM 10X MORE MONEY IF THEY WOULD JUST ******* LISTEN TO US.
(SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY) Rings a bell ? |
Tara'Quoya Rax
Atlantis Asteria
11
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Posted - 2016.06.29 23:21:38 -
[85] - Quote
CCP Darwin wrote:Tara'Quoya Rax wrote:Annoying? The fact that it crashes my video driver every time... game breaking! First, check that you're running the latest drivers for your video card. Once you've done this, please submit a bug report by clicking "Report Bug" from the F12 menu so that we can look into it. Upgrading my nvidia drivers from 340.52 to 368.39 seems to have resolved the issue.
Thx |
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
334
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Posted - 2016.06.29 23:33:41 -
[86] - Quote
KEEP IT! (Majority? My hind parts.)
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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ARES-DESIDERATUS
Perkone Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2016.06.30 00:52:48 -
[87] - Quote
Umm... what happened in this thread
Don't like my post.
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Kalyri
Sanctuary of Shadows Triumvirate.
3
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Posted - 2016.06.30 02:11:33 -
[88] - Quote
I want these new camera tricks gone. At best, they're distracting and useless. I wish CCP would stop screwing around with useless stuff like this.
Either get rid of it or give us the option to turn it off. That goes for both the camera crap when you undock, and where your ship moves into the bay when you log in or dock.
Again, CCP. PLEASE stop spending your time on useless and distracting crap like this. |
Johnno Ormand
Discipuli Diaboli Test Alliance Please Ignore
13
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Posted - 2016.06.30 03:26:38 -
[89] - Quote
Kalyri wrote:I want these new camera tricks gone. At best, they're distracting and useless. I wish CCP would stop screwing around with useless stuff like this.
Either get rid of it or give us the option to turn it off. That goes for both the camera crap when you undock, and where your ship moves into the bay when you log in or dock.
Again, CCP. PLEASE stop spending your time on useless and distracting crap like this.
At least the thrill of the hunt feature GAVE us something for killing a rat, all this new camera trick does is gives me (and my PC's CPU) a headache! I'd rather have the free SP thank you CCP. |
Thead Enco
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
276
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Posted - 2016.06.30 03:34:33 -
[90] - Quote
CCP Darwin wrote:Aramatheia wrote:Even at the best of times from the start of that transition where the ship disappears to gaining access to station facilities has increased by at least 20 seconds for me. Can you bug report this by pressing F12 and clicking the Report Bug button? Please mention in your bug report whether you have "Download everything" checked in your launcher settings when you start the game.
Darwinism at it's finest. And you wonder why no one is resubbing. gg
A Lannister always pays his debts
Tyrion Lannister
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
495
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Posted - 2016.06.30 03:51:41 -
[91] - Quote
Freelancer117 wrote:CCP when your customers say your "fixing" of the undock/dock camera sucks, you should take it on face value the customer is always right, else you lose $ Regards, a Freelancer ps: would it not be better to spend your scarce Company resources on features we actually want
your half-@ssed threats are useless here, you are free to leave anytime you want.
anyway, can i haz your stuff?
Just Add Water
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1393
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Posted - 2016.06.30 05:03:41 -
[92] - Quote
Julanna Egnald wrote:And that saying about the customer being right is bogus. I work in customer service, and most of the time, they (the customers) are selfish, greedy people that are either too dumb to know what they are talking about, or they're trying ro takke advantage of the system. That's exactly the kind of prejudice we have to deal with on a daily basis from people who profess to work in customer service.
Do you not understand that some of those people that you think are attempting to take advantage of the system are just asking for much needed help? Do you not understand that you are rejecting them on the basis of your assumption that they don't actually need it?
Please understand that discrimination is actually a thing and just because you think you are right doesn't mean you cannot be totally wrong. |
Julanna Egnald
Del's Industrial Strip Mining
22
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Posted - 2016.06.30 05:44:50 -
[93] - Quote
Bad Bobby wrote: That's exactly the kind of prejudice we have to deal with on a daily basis from people who profess to work in customer service.
Do you not understand that some of those people that you think are attempting to take advantage of the system are just asking for much needed help? Do you not understand that you are rejecting them on the basis of your assumption that they don't actually need it?
Please understand that discrimination is actually a thing and just because you think you are right doesn't mean you cannot be totally wrong.
I work in a call center doing customer service. Over the last 5 years I've dealt with well over 40,000 people from all over the country. Some need some basic help, some need a lot of help, some make you wonder how they can ever remember to breathe, and some do try to take advantage of the system. I see it every day. When you've done it long enough, you can typically figure out what kind of person they are within 30 seconds from the start of the call. It was practically a required skill when I was in telesales.
And yes, you can tell when someone is trying to work the system (e.g. "The last person gave me a refund and store credit."). Fortunately there's usually systems in place to deal with those people.
What we're dealing with here, though, is none of that. I still have yet to see any special undock animation. I actually let my ship drift for a minute and nothing happened. Usually I just warp off right away, so I wouldn't see it anyway. When I docked up later, the animation ran in the background while I checked today's prices for the goods I acquired today. I didn't have to wait for any animation to finish. I barely noticed it was there.
I suppose I can conclude with a big I don't care. Keep it, take it, it's all the same. If it makes you sick, turn your head for a few seconds. It's not like it's a huge surprise. Other than that, you can just htfu and deal with it. |
morion
Lighting Build
97
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Posted - 2016.06.30 05:45:18 -
[94] - Quote
Undock i'm looking to the overview most the time.
The overview I enjoy using is transparent.
The swimming rotate background behind is "annoying" for me.
Docking i"m looking in trasparent cargo window with rotate swim.
I'f I could disable. +1 F- |
Daemun Khanid
Kameiran Order Team Amarrica
575
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Posted - 2016.06.30 06:09:17 -
[95] - Quote
Really like the new lighting. +1 million for that.
The docking camera was distracting for a while but now I've just kinda stopped noticing it. I don't like how the camera is kinda wonky when I try to rotate it when undocking but it's not a major issue for me. Now if I was undocking into the middle of the fight I might be getting salty but so far since the patch I haven't had to deal with that situation.
Daemun of Khanid
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Cattriell
OPG CEN
1
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Posted - 2016.06.30 06:20:45 -
[96] - Quote
I don't mind it all that much except for how you can't drag the camera around while docking. The undocking part is just awful though. Having to actually click before you can then click and drag the camera around is a terrible design flaw.
You should be able to click and drag from the get go.
*while I was writing this up I docked and was greeted with a nice view of the wall and couldn't even move my camera* Might want to look into that. |
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries Voxis Accord
85
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Posted - 2016.06.30 06:46:38 -
[97] - Quote
Luckily I don't suffer from motion sickness, but when I have some window open and the hangar is partially covered, having that animation in the background is disturbing. I wouldn't be surprised to discovert that that can be problematic for someone that suffer from motion sickness. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1395
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:06:11 -
[98] - Quote
Julanna Egnald wrote:Bad Bobby wrote: That's exactly the kind of prejudice we have to deal with on a daily basis from people who profess to work in customer service.
Do you not understand that some of those people that you think are attempting to take advantage of the system are just asking for much needed help? Do you not understand that you are rejecting them on the basis of your assumption that they don't actually need it?
Please understand that discrimination is actually a thing and just because you think you are right doesn't mean you cannot be totally wrong.
I work in a call center doing customer service. Over the last 5 years I've dealt with well over 40,000 people from all over the country. Some need some basic help, some need a lot of help, some make you wonder how they can ever remember to breathe, and some do try to take advantage of the system. I see it every day. When you've done it long enough, you can typically figure out what kind of person they are within 30 seconds from the start of the call. It was practically a required skill when I was in telesales. And yes, you can tell when someone is trying to work the system (e.g. "The last person gave me a refund and store credit."). Fortunately there's usually systems in place to deal with those people. What we're dealing with here, though, is none of that. I still have yet to see any special undock animation. I actually let my ship drift for a minute and nothing happened. Usually I just warp off right away, so I wouldn't see it anyway. When I docked up later, the animation ran in the background while I checked today's prices for the goods I acquired today. I didn't have to wait for any animation to finish. I barely noticed it was there. I suppose I can conclude with a big I don't care. Keep it, take it, it's all the same. If it makes you sick, turn your head for a few seconds. It's not like it's a huge surprise. Other than that, you can just htfu and deal with it. Yep, that is why we call it discrimination.
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Sputt Nick
New Eden Motion Pictures
2
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:12:32 -
[99] - Quote
Yep it gets me with the queezies a bit.
Undocking isn't so bad as although it is turning, the station moving away gives my head a frame of reference. The one that I have to look away for is the docking entry and rotation, as that seems to throw off my inner ear as it doesnt correspond to an action I am taking, nor do I have a solid frame of reference.
It's similar to being in a car. I can drive without issue, but I make for a very green passenger. Evolution... or something. *Shrugs* |
morion
Lighting Build
98
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:13:39 -
[100] - Quote
Pin the tail on the donkey |
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Trader20
Hedion University Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:23:34 -
[101] - Quote
Just take Dramamine
or dock into your captains quarters. I started doing it and I love it. |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1084
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Posted - 2016.06.30 07:40:26 -
[102] - Quote
Like it no issues some sound effect of ship powering down should be present for extra feel,
Wouldn't mind it being optional for all the peeps that can't handle it for health reasons tho.
Typhoon Fleet Issue SOE skin for the win.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1870
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Posted - 2016.06.30 08:44:27 -
[103] - Quote
There is a bug from this where you change ships during the amination of coming in from another ship change, then you press undock, and you are stuck there with the icon flashing with abort undock, so I rebooted and my ship disappeared. It looks like it just gets droppe dinto space near the station which means people can just come along and take it. It did not as far as I can remember disappear from my hanger when I logged back in. I would advise players to treat the changing of ships and undocking with severe caution and let the animation finish before doing anything.
COHE, the Coalition of Hisec Entities is now in operation, time to make hisec work for people who operate there.
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Geronimo McVain
McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc
117
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Posted - 2016.06.30 11:22:17 -
[104] - Quote
Is there any change that is not hated in the Forums? If they would double the SP generation the first thread would be: EVE is dying.
I really like the animation but the zooming when you undock isn't good |
Ashlar Maidstone
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
241
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Posted - 2016.06.30 12:58:37 -
[105] - Quote
Undocking/docking animations doesn't bother me, changing ships, unsettling but ok, camera outside of station?'
I for one am ok with these as I don't find them any more worse than anything else I ever seen in the past. But come on peeps, please for once give CCP credit for some things they try to do for us, please? |
Moustache Cuir
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2016.06.30 14:57:22 -
[106] - Quote
I hate it. Please provide a disable button. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1402
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Posted - 2016.06.30 15:02:26 -
[107] - Quote
Trader20 wrote:or dock into your captains quarters. I started doing it and I love it. The captains quarters is a fine workaround for those who are complaining of motion sickness only. But I'm afraid that my case is aggravated by various unfortunate reactions with my autism. The billboards and flashing lights moving around me and the lack of control over the environment causes a lot of sensory overload related discomfort.
I don't really have many options here. I pretty much have to beg CCP to be more considerate and if that fails, accept that they don't want me as a customer anymore.
I've already been through this process with the UI changes. Now, there is only one UI color scheme that doesn't cause me insurmountable problems and even with that one I can't really see the edges of the windows. If I had the sliders we used to have, I'd be able to fix that in a second, but they didn't want to clutter their UI with sliders so I have to accept a UI that I can't completely use.
The jump animation is bad for me too, but because of all the other issues I'm almost station bound now so that isn't my greatest priority. It's really quite frustrating to be more mobile and capable in the real world than in a virtual world were I'm supposed to be able to fly space ships. |
morion
Lighting Build
99
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Posted - 2016.06.30 17:22:52 -
[108] - Quote
donkey camera 1.2 |
Perpello
Astralite Technologies
5
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Posted - 2016.07.01 01:28:28 -
[109] - Quote
Gate camera + dock/undock camera -- I too have bad reactions to the focus grab, the lighting effects, the sliding motion, the camera in dock pointing at flickering lighting, media screen. Easy to resolve by adding an option to disable it would be greatly appreciated, CCP. |
W33b3l
Conquest and Kittens
104
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Posted - 2016.07.01 02:19:42 -
[110] - Quote
My first impression was "hey thats actually pretty cool" then I tried panning the camera to watch it from a different angle
I like it for immersion reasons although I dont like the fact I dont have control of the camera while it is happening. If the camera did not auto pan and the camera direction was left to the user it probably wouldnt make people sick and still look cool. I try rotating the camera every damn time lol.
My first thought was "I wonder if this adds to how long it takes to dock then immediately undock again". I personally dont know if it does, but if it does that is the one complaint I feel CCP should address.
As for undocking, I dont see much of a difference although I have every camera option unchecked in the settings. Ive noticed that the camera defaults to a much farther distance from my ship now then it did and I really dislike that. It resets far away every time I jump through a gate as well.
I like the way everything looks though.
I'm surprised little things like this can give people motion sickness. I play FPS games regularly and dont have that problem.
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1412
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Posted - 2016.07.01 02:36:27 -
[111] - Quote
W33b3l wrote:I'm surprised little things like this can give people motion sickness. I play FPS games regularly and dont have that problem. Not everyone is impacted.
Also the feedback that is more "accessibility" focused suggests that there are at least two separate conditions interacting strongly with this new feature.
1. Motion sickness. I guess this is because the movement is lateral and jerky? I'm not that well versed in the subject.
2. Sensory overloads. This appears to be related to the forced motion, the bright lights and billboards and the removal of control over the camera that forces those bright lights and billboards on to your screen where previously you panned them off screen or covered them with windows instinctively.
Obviously the line between an accessibility concern and a matter of taste isn't a clear one, since the subconscious mind has a big part to play in both. |
W33b3l
Conquest and Kittens
104
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Posted - 2016.07.01 02:48:46 -
[112] - Quote
Bad Bobby wrote:W33b3l wrote:I'm surprised little things like this can give people motion sickness. I play FPS games regularly and dont have that problem. Not everyone is impacted. Also the feedback that is more "accessibility" focused suggests that there are at least two separate conditions interacting strongly with this new feature. 1. Motion sickness. I guess this is because the movement is lateral and jerky? I'm not that well versed in the subject. 2. Sensory overloads. This appears to be related to the forced motion, the bright lights and billboards and the removal of control over the camera that forces those bright lights and billboards on to your screen where previously you panned them off screen or covered them with windows instinctively. Obviously the line between an accessibility concern and a matter of taste isn't a clear one, since the subconscious mind has a big part to play in both.
I remember when Rogue Squadron came out on the N64. Made me dizzy as hell since it was back when real 3D games started getting popular and possible. It took me a long time to get used to it but I finally did and have been fine ever since. Im legitimately curious if some of the people having problems just havnt been exposed to this type of stuff enough and just are not used to it. Like how people get used to VR after a little while. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1412
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Posted - 2016.07.01 02:58:14 -
[113] - Quote
Certainly exposure can cure you of many issues like this.
If you knew me, you would understand that lack of exposure to certain types of gaming is not the problem. |
Buliki
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2016.07.01 03:00:31 -
[114] - Quote
you can also get used to prison ****... does it make it a good thing? Not sure. Secretary Not Sure. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1413
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Posted - 2016.07.01 03:21:37 -
[115] - Quote
Forgive the old pictures of part of my scruffy gaming room:
http://imgur.com/ZZVqvpi
http://imgur.com/xlSJpc3
The first image shows an old setup of mine where you can see the old UI is still in use. You can see what I've done with the color scheme in order to give me the windows I can actually use, with a solid dark grey background and clear transitions between windows and parts of windows.
The second image shows a more recent setup of mine where you can see the current UI is in use. You can see I've had to tile windows over my main screen to cover the station interior, in order to avoid issues. The other screens are less of an issue as I turn them on and off when I do or do not need them, they rarely are all on like in this picture and the room is generally not illuminated by my flash but more softly lit.
Both of these images where taken before I found out that I have ASD. So these were adaptions I had made organically, trying to find a way to cope with the increasingly unpleasant game UI.
Obviously these images show plenty of signs of my condition, I know, denial is a powerful thing.
You can probably also gather, that I've played the odd VR game in my time. |
ARES-DESIDERATUS
Perkone Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2016.07.01 03:44:14 -
[116] - Quote
Now that you guys mention it, it did make me feel a bit dizzy or something when I didn't know about the feature - I kept thinking in the back of my mind, WTF is happening with this screen right now? Lol
Don't like my post.
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W33b3l
Conquest and Kittens
104
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Posted - 2016.07.01 03:48:38 -
[117] - Quote
Bad Bobby wrote:Forgive the old pictures of part of my scruffy gaming room: http://imgur.com/ZZVqvpihttp://imgur.com/xlSJpc3The first image shows an old setup of mine where you can see the old UI is still in use. You can see what I've done with the color scheme in order to give me the windows I can actually use, with a solid dark grey background and clear transitions between windows and parts of windows. The second image shows a more recent setup of mine where you can see the current UI is in use. You can see I've had to tile windows over my main screen to cover the station interior, in order to avoid issues. The other screens are less of an issue as I turn them on and off when I do or do not need them, they rarely are all on like in this picture and the room is generally not illuminated by my flash but more softly lit. Both of these images where taken before I found out that I have ASD. So these were adaptions I had made organically, trying to find a way to cope with the increasingly unpleasant game UI. Obviously these images show plenty of signs of my condition, I know, denial is a powerful thing. You can probably also gather, that I've played the odd VR game in my time. Damn Impressive setup you have there. I'm just running Dual monitors on one computer using a cheap logitec 5.1.
Yea I understand that with some people its a legitimate condition. It would be nice if they didnt mess with the camera and just had the ship animate its way to the docking port with the usual full control of the camera. I suppose people are lucky they didnt decide to have the ship spin around with the camera following it as it starts to leave when you hit the undock button.
While it doesnt bother me personally, I would prefer they worked on things like adding attack and return buttons to the drone window (you know things we always should have had) instead of having to right click or use shortcuts, and spend a little less time on stuff like this. Its good that they are working on graphics, the secondary lighting not to mention the eventual implementation of anti aliasing some time back. But I admit the docking video did seem to come out of left field and while I understand them not doing anything because 1% of the players have a problem, if its legitimate, it would be nice if they polished it to help.
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1413
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Posted - 2016.07.01 04:25:39 -
[118] - Quote
W33b3l wrote:Yea I understand that with some people its a legitimate condition. It would be nice if they didnt mess with the camera and just had the ship animate its way to the docking port with the usual full control of the camera. I suppose people are lucky they didnt decide to have the ship spin around with the camera following it as it starts to leave when you hit the undock button. I don't know. I've been autistic all my life, even if I didn't know that was the word for it, so I don't know what it would be like to view these experiences as a more typical person. Maybe they look great to 99% of players and therefore the right thing to do is to introduce these new features AND allow them to be disabled. Maybe they look terrible to 80% of players and therefore the right thing to do is to iterate the feature, because it's just bad. Personally, I don't want to spoil the experience of others just to make myself feel better, I want to improve my experience so that I can enjoy the game as much as other people do and as much as I used to be able to.
W33b3l wrote:While it doesnt bother me personally, I would prefer they worked on things like adding attack and return buttons to the drone window (you know things we always should have had) instead of having to right click or use shortcuts, and spend a little less time on stuff like this. Its good that they are working on graphics, the secondary lighting not to mention the eventual implementation of anti aliasing some time back. Everyone has their own priorities. Mine are just the fundamentals of being able to play the game, once I've managed to overcome those difficulties I'm sure I'll move on to worrying about graphical fidelity and all those niceties! But they seem like 1st world problems to me right now.
W33b3l wrote:But I admit the docking video did seem to come out of left field and while I understand them not doing anything because 1% of the players have a problem, if its legitimate, it would be nice if they polished it to help. Well the most recent figure I've heard says 1.67% of births are impacted by ASD. EVE during it's first ~8 years was a love letter to Aspergers, so it may well have attracted a higher proportion than the general population, much like Aspies are often found in particular professions or with particular hobbies or within social circles with people who have similar conditions.
Who knows really, but I doubt the occurrence within our "population" will be up at the levels of colour blindness. |
W33b3l
Conquest and Kittens
105
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Posted - 2016.07.01 04:40:54 -
[119] - Quote
Bad Bobby wrote:W33b3l wrote:Yea I understand that with some people its a legitimate condition. It would be nice if they didnt mess with the camera and just had the ship animate its way to the docking port with the usual full control of the camera. I suppose people are lucky they didnt decide to have the ship spin around with the camera following it as it starts to leave when you hit the undock button. I don't know. I've been autistic all my life, even if I didn't know that was the word for it, so I don't know what it would be like to view these experiences as a more typical person. Maybe they look great to 99% of players and therefore the right thing to do is to introduce these new features AND allow them to be disabled. Maybe they look terrible to 80% of players and therefore the right thing to do is to iterate the feature, because it's just bad. Personally, I don't want to spoil the experience of others just to make myself feel better, I want to improve my experience so that I can enjoy the game as much as other people do and as much as I used to be able to. W33b3l wrote:While it doesnt bother me personally, I would prefer they worked on things like adding attack and return buttons to the drone window (you know things we always should have had) instead of having to right click or use shortcuts, and spend a little less time on stuff like this. Its good that they are working on graphics, the secondary lighting not to mention the eventual implementation of anti aliasing some time back. Everyone has their own priorities. Mine are just the fundamentals of being able to play the game, once I've managed to overcome those difficulties I'm sure I'll move on to worrying about graphical fidelity and all those niceties! But they seem like 1st world problems to me right now. W33b3l wrote:But I admit the docking video did seem to come out of left field and while I understand them not doing anything because 1% of the players have a problem, if its legitimate, it would be nice if they polished it to help. Well the most recent figure I've heard says 1.67% of births are impacted by ASD. EVE during it's first ~8 years was a love letter to Aspergers, so it may well have attracted a higher proportion than the general population, much like Aspies are often found in particular professions or with particular hobbies or within social circles with people who have similar conditions. Who knows really, but I doubt the occurrence within our "population" will be up at the levels of colour blindness.
Color blindness is a very common issue and they have difficulties even working around that. Its so bad that I brought up making the little triangle for warp gates on the overview match the color associated with the sec status the gate leads into once and I was told there is no point because of color blind people. its not hard to properly implement a color blind mode changing the colors so something people with the problem can see but for some reason... it a non project.
Considering that... someone with your "condition?"... might as well be non existent on there list sadly. CCP makes a great game... well they did anyway. I never understand how a company that could make something like EVE, has a complete inability to work around these issues.
Ive heard a lot of complaints about this in the past. Hopefully people can find a way to show CCP that a potion of the people complaining about it are not just doing it to complain and actually have a medical condition they cant help and they just want to be able to play the game. Ide look to the CSM but Ive giving up on that. If people made the word Autism more prevalent and got CCP's attention about it maybe they might take notice IDK.
I dont know you in game (however this is my main but I dont play a lot anymore) but going by the hardware you have to play the game.. I trust your concern is valid and I wish you luck.
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W33b3l
Conquest and Kittens
105
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Posted - 2016.07.01 04:52:25 -
[120] - Quote
And I just logged in to copy my bio for the other thread... It went through the docking animation on login. REALLY? The ship was already in there... I call BS on that lol. |
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1413
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Posted - 2016.07.01 05:07:21 -
[121] - Quote
W33b3l wrote:I never understand how a company that could make something like EVE, has a complete inability to work around these issues. Yeah, I can pull crazy conspiracy theories out of my obsessively pattern matching brain about what could be the reason. Here's one:
Old CCP had more aspies in the company than new CCP. The old CCP made the game it was passionate about, because if you're an aspie that is pretty much the only game you are capable of making effectively. These people were sometimes difficult to work with but impressive in their own ways. Over time they left CCP or moved to roles where they no longer have as close an association with the actual game development. As a result the game started to become less aspie friendly and more "neuro-typical" friendly.
As CCP gained more staff and that office got busier, those Aspies may have found themselves less comfortable in that environment. As newer development methodologies were adopted they found it increasingly difficult. Things like having standing-only meetings, having heavily glazed and open plan offices, or just having a lot of change in the workplace is pretty hard for an Aspie to handle. That was certainly my experience and part of what ended 12 years working in software for me, but for a different company with a different three letter name, not CCP.
W33b3l wrote:Ive heard a lot of complaints about this in the past. Hopefully people can find a way to show CCP that a potion of the people complaining about it are not just doing it to complain and actually have a medical condition they cant help and they just want to be able to play the game. Ide look to the CSM but Ive giving up on that. If people made the word Autism more prevalent and got CCP's attention about it maybe they might take notice IDK. It's funny you mention that... what with Xenuria and all that.
W33b3l wrote:I dont know you in game (however this is my main but I dont play a lot anymore) but going by the hardware you have to play the game.. I trust your concern is valid and I wish you luck. Thanks! |
W33b3l
Conquest and Kittens
105
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Posted - 2016.07.01 05:47:14 -
[122] - Quote
Bad Bobby wrote:W33b3l wrote:I never understand how a company that could make something like EVE, has a complete inability to work around these issues. Yeah, I can pull crazy conspiracy theories out of my obsessively pattern matching brain about what could be the reason. Here's one: Old CCP had more aspies in the company than new CCP. The old CCP made the game it was passionate about, because if you're an aspie that is pretty much the only game you are capable of making effectively. These people were sometimes difficult to work with but impressive in their own ways. Over time they left CCP or moved to roles where they no longer have as close an association with the actual game development. As a result the game started to become less aspie friendly and more "neuro-typical" friendly. As CCP gained more staff and that office got busier, those Aspies may have found themselves less comfortable in that environment. As newer development methodologies were adopted they found it increasingly difficult. Things like having standing-only meetings, having heavily glazed and open plan offices, or just having a lot of change in the workplace is pretty hard for an Aspie to handle. That was certainly my experience and part of what ended 12 years working in software for me, but for a different company with a different three letter name, not CCP. W33b3l wrote:Ive heard a lot of complaints about this in the past. Hopefully people can find a way to show CCP that a potion of the people complaining about it are not just doing it to complain and actually have a medical condition they cant help and they just want to be able to play the game. Ide look to the CSM but Ive giving up on that. If people made the word Autism more prevalent and got CCP's attention about it maybe they might take notice IDK. It's funny you mention that... what with Xenuria and all that. W33b3l wrote:I dont know you in game (however this is my main but I dont play a lot anymore) but going by the hardware you have to play the game.. I trust your concern is valid and I wish you luck. Thanks!
Ya Ive been playing a long time. Not since release but a long damn time,. 3 accounts no plex with a monthly sub (paying the most) fir a long time. I really miss CCP soundwave and the old CCP. People say EVE is dying but its not. The original EVE however is dying.. assuming you car argue that it is not already dead. I've been extremely adimate about the fact new devs are why these things are happening. I fell in love with the original design team. I know thier history. I fell head over heals for this game back when the people making it where the people that had the passion for it. It was thier baby. New blood is diluting this game. The fact that guard and hilmar are still around and letting some of these things happen scares me. Ive thought the same as you for awhile. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1414
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Posted - 2016.07.01 06:11:22 -
[123] - Quote
W33b3l wrote:The fact that guard and hilmar are still around and letting some of these things happen scares me. Ive thought the same as you for awhile. Well, the pattern is there. That is why I can see it. I'm not mad, I don't hallucinate things, I spot things.
The problem is relevance. Is all that stuff I typed just a lot of data points and an unjustified interpretation drawn from them, or is it the cosmic truth of the universe? How they hell do I know? Hence I call it what it is: a crazy conspiracy theory.
When I look at my own issues I have a better gauge for relevance: is this going to stop me enjoying this game?
It's easy to tell the things that do stop me from enjoying the game:
The new docking animation. The new camera. The "new" jump transition. The "new" death transition. The "new" UI & overview. The new map.
These are usability issues for me. It's not that I'm just a whiny little ***** (not just), it's that those things make the game unnecessarily difficult for me. I do adapt to a lot of the changes, but some of them I struggle with because the game interface has effectively been made "harder" for me. |
Buliki
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2016.07.02 03:47:19 -
[124] - Quote
It's even worst than you can imagine my dear brother.
It's even related to everything that is going crazy in this world.
CCP is now a Corporation like Nike. Not quite like Nike, but it wishes it was.
You Know... when you build giant aquariums in the workplace, the marble floors, the hookers, the **** and the ******* aren't that far ahead.
Nobody cares. its a ******* job now... like when you work at verizon.
EVE is not a game anymore. It's a place where they keep us busy... like a kindergarden.
Hopefully until November |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8236
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Posted - 2016.07.02 04:00:06 -
[125] - Quote
Buliki wrote: P.S. It is almost certain that CCP is infiltrated. Only some of you will know what I'm talking about, but I think it would be the same group that ruined ALL GAMES RELEASED SINCE 2011.
http://i.imgur.com/XS5LK.gif
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Buliki
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2016.07.02 04:07:26 -
[126] - Quote
Well a good recent example is Metal Gear Solid V TPP (TPP like wake up...)
If you know what I mean..... good dog!
seriously.... I'm not even sure the CEO knows the state of his company... seems there's nobody at the wheel...
too much prostiputes maybe no time AT ALL
I guessed they've been coerced... I mean the guy must love his game WTF!
Just a thought... why the clothing so ugly and minus -51% sexy... truly ask yourselves that
WE WERE TOLD TO HTFU BUT WE ARE NOT EVEN HARD ENOUGH YET TO SEE THE ******* WORD ******* WRITTEN. WE NEED TO CENSOR IT FOR ******* FAGGOTS WHO CANT EVEN READ A ******* STUPID WORD. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1756
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Posted - 2016.07.02 07:00:47 -
[127] - Quote
Well (cautious) rejoice there is a toggle on the way: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6550145#post6550145 |
Pixel Piracy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2016.07.02 07:31:07 -
[128] - Quote
This is all I hear about recently
Should they make it optional? Yes - if only to shut up all the cry babies.
Seriously if you manage to get motion sickness from this you need to leave the house more. Also maybe a video game set in three dimensional XYZ space wasn't the best pick if you've the visual fortitude of an 80 year old. |
Pakokkie
Under Heavy Fire Mordus Angels
109
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Posted - 2016.07.02 08:16:09 -
[129] - Quote
I have not read any of the other comments, so what I have to say might be already said.
The undocking / docking animation is the most anoying thing ever implemented in EVE.
PLEASE remove it asap. It disturbes the gameplay. While undocking and trying to get ready for pvp a pilot first has to take care of the bullcrap animation.
I see only one solution for this problem, fire the person who thought this up and spent resources that could have been used to finish the walking in station feature. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17670
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Posted - 2016.07.02 11:14:25 -
[130] - Quote
Of all the things wrong with the game you people choose this? |
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1756
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Posted - 2016.07.02 11:37:13 -
[131] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Of all the things wrong with the game you people choose this?
Personally I find it very annoying having that animation run over and over again. It doesn't even make sense as I login and [dockin animation]. Here me was thinking when I logged out I already was docked.
What would you like to see looked at Baltec? |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1756
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Posted - 2016.07.02 11:41:34 -
[132] - Quote
Pixel Piracy wrote:This is all I hear about recently
Should they make it optional? Yes - if only to shut up all the cry babies.
Seriously if you manage to get motion sickness from this you need to leave the house more. Also maybe a video game set in three dimensional XYZ space wasn't the best pick if you've the visual fortitude of an 80 year old.
The amount of compassion and empathy you have on display here for your fellow human beings went off my radar...
... into the abyss.
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17670
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Posted - 2016.07.02 11:43:38 -
[133] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote:baltec1 wrote:Of all the things wrong with the game you people choose this? Personally I find it very annoying having that animation run over and over again. It doesn't even make sense as I login and [dockin animation]. Here me was thinking when I logged out I already was docked. What would you like to see looked at Baltec?
The cancer that is T3. |
Arsine Elgan
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2016.07.02 13:11:39 -
[134] - Quote
Nid wrote:Well, 10,000 SP daily to make people undock didn't work well.
So this docking animation was created so people never to docked again, ever.
CCP Claymore wrote:Torgeir Hekard wrote:Kill it with fire. Launch the ashes into the eve gate. While we are at it, do the same for gate jumps and the new map.
All this pretty but cheesy stuff distracts me from effectively operating the spreadsheets. Gate jump animation I can't comment on. New Map is on my team and something I would like us to take a serious look at.
Yep, denounces gate jump animation, enables far worse animations. Devs now scrambling to clean up CCP Claymore's mess.
Why is he here? They need to get rid of him before he screws up more crap.
13 years of devs and they would not enable movie trailer footage in game Causality Trailer
Even in that video it wasn't as lame as what was done in the game.
I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all.
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Kaivarian Coste
Beyond Imports and Exports
57
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Posted - 2016.07.02 13:33:14 -
[135] - Quote
Pixel Piracy wrote: Seriously if you manage to get motion sickness from this you need to leave the house more. Also maybe a video game set in three dimensional XYZ space wasn't the best pick if you've the visual fortitude of an 80 year old.
The original Elite had a docking/undocking sequence, and the option to turn it off.
This was back in 1984. |
Buliki
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2016.07.02 13:56:26 -
[136] - Quote
That's so great but I hope you don't think I'm this mad about just a little twirl of camera....
It's the principles, when your game is all ****** up from top to bottom... you don't go about releasing stupid "visual improvements" that nobody EVEN ASKED FOR...
You shut the **** up and you listen or else you crystallize into Nike/Wal-Mart/Costco
Welcome to EVE Online, I love You.
P.S. some of my posts were deleted because EVE Employees DID NOT HTFU like us. |
Varcutii Renalard
15
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Posted - 2016.07.02 14:33:43 -
[137] - Quote
CCP Darwin wrote:Aramatheia wrote:Even at the best of times from the start of that transition where the ship disappears to gaining access to station facilities has increased by at least 20 seconds for me. Can you bug report this by pressing F12 and clicking the Report Bug button?
Can you develop a forced camera movement anywhere in eve, disable option in settings, instead? |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
2182
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Posted - 2016.07.03 00:18:49 -
[138] - Quote
Varcutii Renalard wrote:Can you develop a forced camera movement anywhere in eve, disable option in settings, instead? If you have feedback on what you'd like to have controlled by such an option, I suggest posting in the appropriate feedback thread, where people who can do such a thing (and btw I'm not one of them) will be sure to see it.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Cj Allyn
Federal Logistics Initiative Conglomerate United Interests
13
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Posted - 2016.07.04 19:41:42 -
[139] - Quote
Yeah its pretty broken for me, takes twice as long to load the station now and the camera thing just goes batshit like shaking all over when you come in. Stop adding useless features no one wants, and optimize the game.
The amount of time it takes to develop this feature could have been spent optimizing the unlocking and docking process increasing efficiency and time.
I swear ive been paying and playing for 3+ years now and it feels like an a game still in beta. If i wanted to play a beta i would. Listen to your customers that is what we are not your test subjects. |
aldhura
Bartledannians The Ascendancy Protocol
65
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Posted - 2016.07.04 19:56:27 -
[140] - Quote
How does this all add to the advertised "PVP sandbox" ??? Guess that means I don't like it better places to spend dev time imo
Bartledannians Corporation is recruiting
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Demolishar
United Aggression
1118
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Posted - 2016.07.04 20:33:58 -
[141] - Quote
There is now a checkbox on sisi |
Satchel Darkmatter
Kripa Exploration
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Posted - 2016.07.05 07:59:17 -
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I like it, however......
The camera should be static over the point where the ship will stop, it should then track the ship as it floats into position, I would actually like to see it floating in from further away and make the floating pure cosmetic, what I mean by that is that we should not in any way be blocked or stuck waiting on the ship floating into position, so make it float in over a longer period from further down the corridor but don't limit the players action as a result.
As for the billboards I have no clue what peoples issue is with them, my PC is crap and it runs them fine I can only assume your trying to run loads of clients on the same machine which personally I think should be against the rules anway. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1440
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Posted - 2016.07.05 09:12:24 -
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Satchel Darkmatter wrote:As for the billboards I have no clue what peoples issue is with them, my PC is crap and it runs them fine I can only assume your trying to run loads of clients on the same machine So you're capable of understanding the concept of a person's PC hardware deviating from the norm in some way but not their physical bodies and brains?
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
2011
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Posted - 2016.07.05 09:50:26 -
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Satchel Darkmatter wrote:... As for the billboards I have no clue what peoples issue is with them, my PC is crap and it runs them fine I can only assume your trying to run loads of clients on the same machine .... You assume wrong. At least in my case. The constant and very distracting flickering and motion outside the panels I have open to do stuff with (fitting screen, inventory, market, etcetera...) is annoying. To put it mildly. That is beside the fact that what is shown is repetitive to the extreme. Have you ever watched the same advertisement hundreds of times voluntarily? right.....
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1760
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Posted - 2016.07.05 11:05:58 -
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I had an horrific vision, what if those billboards are here to soften us up, reading us for ingame AMD or AlienWare adds? |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1440
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Posted - 2016.07.05 11:40:03 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:I had an horrific vision, what if those billboards are here to soften us up, reading us for ingame AMD or AlienWare adds? Well if that happens then CCP will have disappeared up their own... |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
277
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Posted - 2016.07.05 14:07:26 -
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aldhura wrote:How does this all add to the advertised "PVP sandbox" ??? Guess that means I don't like it better places to spend dev time imo This just in: all visual effects development is a worthless waste of time.
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Kamahl Daikun
Back To Basics. Tactical Supremacy
139
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Posted - 2016.07.05 19:53:52 -
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I thought MMO forums were bad but here we are complaining over docking/undocking animations.
I personally don't care. Looks neat. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1445
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Posted - 2016.07.06 04:13:55 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:I thought MMO forums were bad but here we are complaining over docking/undocking animations. I personally don't care. Looks neat. Esrevid Nekkeg wrote:Satchel Darkmatter wrote:... As for the billboards I have no clue what peoples issue is with them, my PC is crap and it runs them fine I can only assume your trying to run loads of clients on the same machine .... You assume wrong. At least in my case. The constant and very distracting flickering and motion outside the panels I have open to do stuff with (fitting screen, inventory, market, etcetera...) is annoying. To put it mildly. That is beside the fact that what is shown is repetitive to the extreme. Have you ever watched the same advertisement hundreds of times voluntarily? right..... You sound like that guy in college who complains that the guy in the front is watching Netflix on his laptop and how distracting it is for you. Don't be that guy. It sounds like "that guy" may have been on the autistic spectrum somewhere, but who knows.
Things such as ADD, ADHD, dyslexia, dyscalculia, dyspraxia and autism all have a well documented association with these kind of sensory/attention issues.
For me it is a combination of a preference for seeing detail, a reduced ability to screen out unwanted sensory information, some random cross wiring between my senses and my pain processing hardware that causes visible light to be mildly painful and the fact that I am in a college lecture theatre which is already a massively anxiety and agitation causing scenario that I'm having to fight to get through. But obviously, from the outside I'm just some obnoxious ***** complaining in a lecture theatre.
It should be noted that I do have the ability to go into "the zone" in certain situations where they rest of the world melts away and none of this is an issue, but if I'm not in that zone I really don't perform. |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
2013
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Posted - 2016.07.06 11:56:50 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:You sound like that guy in college who complains that the guy in the front is watching Netflix on his laptop and how distracting it is for you.
Don't be that guy. I am that guy.
Pretty much for the above by Bad Bobby stated reasons.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Regan Rotineque
The Scope Gallente Federation
412
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Posted - 2016.07.06 15:48:34 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:I had an horrific vision, what if those billboards are here to soften us up, reading us for ingame AMD or AlienWare adds?
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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
420
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Posted - 2016.07.07 00:05:00 -
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Yup, I too enjoy the new animation. I has had no impact on my process of docking and undocking. I dock and undock with aplumb. Even the ship switch animation doesn't impact me at all, I did a switch and was undocked before it came to rest and was in warp before the camera had a chance to even zoom out far enough I couldn't read my ship markings.
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